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stopit: Arrant nonsence.how can a group of bigots give codition that the only way peace can remain in the party is for the president not to recontest just imagine and there are doing this cos of their selfish ambition.Even the so called Ameachi have ambition of being the VP.
But why not wait let the primaries decides who is their presidential candidate.Inshort what is even the contribugtion of the North to Nigeria apart from their large numbers,let them try to work very well in their states first so that their deeds can speak for them.

Did he agree to this in 2011? Simple. If he did, it is natural that those privy to that agreement will ask him to honour what he knowingly agreed to.

if Zoning and power shift has always being part of the practice of PDP, then why are we condemning northerners for tryingt to enforce it when it was enforced for a southerner in 1999. I suppose they were not bigots then.

ofala: ONE vital question every well meaning Nigerian should start asking from NOW is : How does all these political scheming positively affect the common man in the street?

Just like I am asking how the president's ambition affects the common man on the street. Jonathan is playing politics to run again just as the northern governors are playing politics to ensure he abides by the zoning policy of their party. Both sides are playing politics for their selfish ambition.

Bode George will always support any president in power, that is what he does for a living.

telexfree1: ' Abysmal economic performance ' of the government
You just type up stuff without making any specific point. You are probably one of those who expects government to do everything for you. Put food on your table, pay your medical bills, pay your school fees, and give you monthly checks for being unemployed .
My friend, listen up. The government doesn't owe you anything asides from providing security and maintaining regulatory oversights over the formal and informal sector while working with state and local government to create opportunities for the citizenry to take advantage of in order to make progress in all directions.
And whether you like it or not, this country is headed in that direction. It's only a matter of time. As soon as the government has divested in all business enterprises and the power transformation has run its course, then government can focus on its core responsibilities . Some people here will yell blue murder if I told them that asides from maintaining oversight and creating opportunities for the students, government has no business running a university.
Dude , people are taking advantage of the free market reforms and are venturing out there taking risks and making it. I suggest you try your hand at something.
If you had criticized the government for not making police sector transformation a number one priority just like they did in the power sector, that would have counted for something. Because security is government's number one function.
I challenge to you to list one failed economic directive of this government and I will give two strategic 'on point' initiatives which are currently being implemented .
Anyway, it's pretty obvious from your past posts that you are a fanatical APC supporter , so by default you reason emotionally on any matter linking to PDP. I am saying I wouldn't be surprised if your next post is defensive and filled with faulty logic.

LOL. Guy do you live in this country? Thanks for your lecture on the role of government in a polity. But let me just focuson the so called transformation of the power sector for now.
After billions of dollars, what is power generation today? 2300 mega watts the same as about 10 years ago when the power reform program was initiated by the obj govt.
If you call that reform, then you must be a fanatical PDP / Jonathan supporter, so by default you reason emotionally on anym matter linking jonathan and PDP!
Any economic directive that is not yielding results for several years- and most of the so called economic policies of the jonathan administration are nothing but a pathetic rehash of obj 's 2003 to 2007 economic reform policies- is a failed economic directive. All we hear are highfallutin figures that we cannot feel the impact since 2003 when all this deceptionstarred.

Honestly I wish I could say your response is full of faulty logic . Unfortunately it is just defensive without logic!

taharqa: Just hear yr Self talk!! Can you hear yrself now?? Good. Now tell me: bw you and that other Clown, who is d greater HYPOCRITE??

You want to descend to personal abuse? I don't blame you. That is what low intelligence people do when they cannot sustain a discussion with valid points

taharqa: Clown, Dangote just mentioned d BACKWARD INTEGRATION policies, across d entire value chain, currently going on in the Sugar, Cassava, Palm Oil, Tomatoes, Cotton, Rice, Fertilizer, etc- areas that he and very many others are massively investing in? These things are just happening by themselves, right? That is yr story..

What? Jonathan drew up dangote's business plan for him? dangote was not planning backward integration until jonathan becameppresident?
Please if you do not have any valid point why don't you just not comment any more. Look I run a very small business, and I already have a business plan that covers my expansion plan for the next six years. I suppose jonathan is responsible for that as well!

taharqa: Oh, FDI per capital angle abi?? Maybe you hv to explain that to d Chinese you CLOWN... And did you just ask what 'd big deal is in FDI flow to Nigeria'??... Africa had more than #50bn FDI inflow last year, one of d only regions in d world where it increased; if that is 'an agonishingly low flow' then you hv to have yr head Checked, fast..

You are getting it twisted. His point is this thing has nothing to do with the Jonathan's government. They were simply implementations of business expansion plans made several years ago. Is'NT it funny? if you want to ascribe every good event during Jonathan 's tenure to him why do you want to excuse every bad thing from him?

To me it is pathetic and ridiculous that you want to give him credit for things he did not contribute directly to while you will excuse him from the several disasters he was responsible for!

ballabriggs: What is the big deal about Nigeria's FDI inflows?

Firstly, Nigeria in the last year on a per capita basis got less FDI inflows than Ghana.

Secondly, Africa as a whole has an agonisingly low percentage of global FDI inflows. To make noise about biggest in Africa is to say you are the king of mediocrity.

Thirdly, these inflows in most of the economic literature on FDI and growth in Nigeria have a very insignificant impact on growth.

So please shut it.

Thanks bro. but we are probably wasteing our time with these jonathanians. They seems to inhabit there own land of fantasyw where they concoct all sort of achievements for a low performing government and president. The way they are going they will soon ascribe the growth of pentecoastal churches to Jonathan!

taharqa: Oh, so d Reserves 'has bn squandered'? We now have 'higher interest rate'? A 'higher inflation rate'? A 'higher employment rate' (okay, you may be right here i think)? A 'worse State Infrastructure'?? Abi?that is yr story?

It is reality on ground except of course, you jonathanians live in a diffrent country from the rest of us!

telexfree1: Yu obviously have no idea there was a global economic recession in 2008 which affected Nigeria as well. Look at you making comparisons to three years ago. Why don't you ask the average American the same question ? Most of the world's economies have not recovered from the massive job losses and credit crunch. Or you think Nigeria was completely insulated from global happenings ? An international businessman is talking and you sitting are here trying to post some high school business studies analysis.

Let me understand you. The abysmal economic performance of this government is due to the global economic recession of 2008? Are you kidding me? Are you this naive?
That international businessman would say the same thing to any president. He probably said same things to obj several times.
are you this naive?
By the way, why don't you offer your own kindergarten analysis if you if feel my stating economic facts and figures is high school business studies analysis.

enm: Please that was in the past before GEJ administration. please be properly informed before making any comment.

To those of you saying GEj has done nothing to warrant praise should please desist from it. yes there is still a lot to be done but time is needed, so we should continue to be patience and watchful so as to keep them on their toes.

Let us not be in a hurry and use our own hands and mouth to destroy things and regret later.

The past ? Are you saying the latest figures from MAN for 2012 is in the past? Specifically what economic policy is jonathan implementing differently from the one implemented under obj by the same ngozi nweala?
You Jonathan supporters should stop deceiving yourselves there is virtually no diffrence between the policies obj implemented between 2003 to 2007 and the same copycat economic policies of the Jonathan government.

It is a policy of promises and contrary results!

ilebaami: Goodluck Jonathan assembled a Nigerian 1st eleven squad that includes Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Shamsudeen Usman, Dr. Akinwunmi Ayo Adesina, Mrs. Hadiza Ibrahim Mailafa, Mrs. Stella Oduah-Ogiemwonyi ,Olusegun Aganga, Amb. Olugbenga Ashiru, Prof. Chinedu Osita Nebo, Mrs. Deizani Alison-Madueke a a host of smart brains to complement his intellectual insight. Not to forget two quiet wiz-kids at the power privatisation revolution called Atedo Peterside and Bekinbo Dagogo-Jack. You ain't seen nothing yet! Testimony galore!

Obj too assembled a so called first eleven team including the same ngozi nweala and many, many more. They said after payingo off the country's debt we should expect a great sustained economic growth of low inflation and interest rates andd high employment.
Now we have the foreign reserve squandered, higher inflation, higher interest rate, higher unemployment, worse state of infrastructure. On top they have piled up the debts again Even worse.!

It is really testimony galore. Testimony of lies and propaganda galore!!

Billygee2u: So he should not say the truth? He should lie against the government that favoured him? Why most Nigerians hate truth and love people who promises heaven on earth, without making inpacts to the masses?

Favoured him in what ways. I think that is what should be the focus of this discussion. What specific policy of the jonathan administration , diffrent from the previous administrations - is dangote refering to. ? A business man makes a simple flattering statement and desperate supporters of a government with failed economic policies are latching on to it..

taharqa: Oh! SHUT that mouth of yrs tha, Nitwit. Were it even remotely suggesting otherwise, you wud have been singing another song, loudly abi??.

There is a reason Nigeria has for d last consecutive 2 years attracted, for d 1st time and by a significantly margin, d LARGEST FDI in Africa; there is a reason why most industries in Nigeria are undertaken some of their largest expansions yet within same period. What does that Mind of yrs think is/are the reason(s) for it??

Complete hogwash. Dangote started expansion into manufacturing several years ago it is a big lie to attribute any significant FDI directly to the Jonathan administration policy. Most of industries expanding currently has their expansionpexpansion programs in place for years and the policy of the Jonathan administration has nothing to do with it. What Jonathan apologist are now doing is to attribute every economic progress in the private sector-most of which would have taken place AGIP- to jonathan.

This to me is desperation . A government is usually assessed by the capacity to provide enabling environment for small and medium size companies to thrive. This is usually achieved through the right micro and macro economic policies.
When you consider the state of infrastructures, in flation , interest rates, cost of doing business, were we better off or worse than we were three years ago.? This clinging to imaginary achievements that has not impacted on any one life has beent the usual swan song of the last 14 years of PDP misrule.

Waiting for response from the church? Of course you can guess what it will be. They won't address the real issues. What they would most likely do is to play the religious card or look for some kind of extraneous sentiment to cling to.
That is nigeria for you. People break the law and still play the victim, before you know it nobody will be discussing the'real causative reasons again as the discussion would have turned religious or ethnic.

ckkris: President Jonathan is steadily leading Nigeria and Nigerians out of difficulties left by the misrule of previous administrations. Railroads are being restored. Electricity is being privatised and supply is improving. Fuel supply is stable. The military is improving and hitting Boko Haram so hard that their sponsors are now afraid, the USA is acknowledging. Foreign Direct Investment is increasing and creating jobs. Dangote alone has signed $3.3 billion. Jona will definitely win in 2015.

When you say previous administrations, were those previous administrations APC or ACN or ANPP govts? It is laughable but this mindless attempt to exonerate jonathan from the past 14 years of PDP misrule is nothing but hogwash.

In terms of achievements, you mentioned electricity, the power refor,ms started around 2002. Part of the achievements listed by the obasanjo's govt in 2003 was the attainmemt of 4000 mega watts of electricity generation . more than ten years down the line, and billions of dollars the drain, the total megawatts generated as at today is around 2300 mega watts. And you Jonathan apologist will still count this as achieve,ment? shouldn't there be a limit to all this naked lies?

Jonathan cannot manage himself, his wife, and his party and you think he can steadily manage the country out of difficulty? You must be an incurable optimist!

texaco1: and can you tell us where or when you heard or saw gej begging them?just asking .because the way you made ur comment ,you made it sound as if you were standing behind gej when he was begging them

Did he call their bluff? even anenih in a statement released today confirm that the peace meeting was at the instance of the president. Secondly, the fact that Jonathan's official attack dogs- abati &okupe- are currently on a leech should tell you that Jonathan is grovelling from pillar to post.

As for tukur, bet on it, Jonathan will sacrifice him on the altar of his desperation for 2015. I have taken my time to study this president. I have come to a very painful conclusion: this man has no abiding principles, no vision, no courage or gauntlet to fight . All he does is dilly dally to and fro like someone wishing a problem goes away.

My prayer is for Jonathan to disappoint me for once and at least do something: fight or submit. But at least be decisive!

[quote author=Sunny_bobo]How come they are not leading in the number of JAMB applications and University admissions?[/quote]Do you enroll for jamb immediately you enroll in school? Did you?

sammyzacks: Who says Jonathan is not a man?

I say so. And please just watch how his actions will veer to and fro, back and forth in the coming days and weeks.
Jonathan has never disappointed me since I have studied his leadership and managerial style.

chukwudi44: Bros this crisis is ethnic in origin.Whether he reconciles with Amaechi or not ,the crisis will continue.You think it is a co-incvidence that 95% of the Governors,senators and rep members involved in these are from the north?

Atiku can do nada.I think GEj has given up on negotiations and is now wants to play dirty,let's see who gets hurt.

If the crisis is ethnic in nature, then what is shema from katsina state doing on Jonathan's side. Why is namadi sambo and tukur etc on Jonathan's side.
If you say it is ethnic that most of the governors against jonathan are from the north, would it not also be ethnic that most of the governors supporting jonathan are from the south?
when will you jonathonians realise that this ethic / religious card is counter productive? jonathan is already in a mess. You guys are only making it MESSIER!

ckkris: Are they not the worst election riggers in Nigeria?

If they were how come Jonathan won in lagos in 2011. How did he not.?

mekaboy: An APC member contesting under PDP, Rigged the election, won and rejected the result to disgrace PDP and win cheap political points for his main party APC.

All this things going on jst to ensure that power returns to the north in 2015. At the end of the day, the north might end up having 2 presidential candidates, Atiku and whoever APC chooses, but I see a lot of plans backfire before 2015.

You are suffering from a severe case of post PDP breakup syndrome. You are hallucinating and seeing things!

Sincere 9gerian: Good to know that we have Sincere 9gerians in PDP. If only we had one in ACN in 2011 when Tinubu and Fashola shamelessly rigged the Lagos local council poll, he or she would have rejected the result too

Did they rigged the 2011 organised by inec too. If I remember correctly PDP has did not win a single seat in that election. Some what could have happened a few months later.
One problem with you is that you rehash PDP official propaganda hook, line and sinker.

Sincere 9gerian: While the presidency and party leaders seek for ways of amicably resolving the crisis, their openness to dialogue should not be taken for cowardice. My position is that any differences that cannot be settled amicably through dialogue should be settled in the field.

Jonathan is a coward that does not have the stomach for a fight. Everybody knows a confused weakling when they see one.

BekeeBuAgbara: What have you achieved in your life?
You called a man your father would stand on his toes to have a glimpse of a failure.
Jonathan will continue to be your president till 2019.

I do not discuss what I have achieved in my life on a public forum with a total stranger. Do you?
May be your father needs to stand on Jonathan's toes to have a glimpse of his failures, mine would not have to. Jonathan failure can be glimpsed from afar in all aspect of our national life.

pazienza: Anyway, i just found out that Andrew Igbonule Uchendu represents Emohua/Ikwerre constituency, while Ogbonna Nwuke represents Omuma/Etche constituency.

These people have always been in Igbo denial,not suprised they are once again acting as sabos to an Igbo cause.

Gbam! Jonathan presidency of nigeria is an igbo cause?!?

olorisa: My broda, it is so bad that I was banned for responding to some guy who threw hate-filled drivels at Yoruba then my post was delete and I was banned while the guy's post remained. When I registered another handle to complained I was slammed with a ban till 2021! Then I tried to be civil with this handle, still no cogent reason for why I was banned and the other guy remained till after I complained and posted screen-grabs for evidence.

I honestly think the best way to make mods accountable for their actions is make the ban list accessible to members. This list will include names of members on ban, duration, reason for ban, and offending post plus mod that effected the ban.

This will go a long in exposing power drunk , vindictive mods. It will also exonerate mods from accusations of unfair treatment.
For example, someone once complained about a month ban by AOMJ . At that time , I thought of was UN usual, but when ilugunboy returned from a 30 days ban yesterday I realised that the other guy was not being targeted unfairly.

Seun needs to look into this because the typical nigerian will abuse power if not held accountable.

Virgin Finder: Do you know the meaning of sabotage? What of saboteur? And they are in every sector!

OBJ also spent billions of dollars on the power sector and didn't achieve much.

PHCN must never be govt-run. GEJ'll achieve this.

Is obj not in PDP? Why is there no continuity between one PDP govt to another? It is very ridiculous that you Jonathan apologists always wants to repudiate PDP when it suits your argument. Jonathan and PDP are like siamese twins. You cannot separate the two.

zegbeye: Good you at least know that, so instead of running around from thread to thread to release your bile against GEJ, Why not wait until 2015 come

Sorry bro, I am just expressing my point of view. It is a public forum.
You said why have'nt the new PDP taken over the presidency. My response was that they cannot do that except in an election. Or were you expecting Jonathan to decamp to new PDP before the expiration of his tenure?
your suggestion that I should wait till 2015 before expressing my views about the current affairs in my country, I am sure you will agree with me , is laughable.

Please feel free to exercise your democratic right to express your views while I continue to enjoy mine.

If you do not agree with mine, state yours.

Sincere 9gerian: The opposition has always been in control of the house of reps since Tambuwai defeated the PDP candidate in 2011. So NOTHING has changed.

It can only make a difference if they'll attempt to impeach the president BUT they CANNOT. The NASS cannot attempt any impeachment process. The worst they can do is the usual noise making and delay passage of important bills. All these charade is just for noise, noise and more noise. The renegade PDP members are all over the courts seeking for one relief or the other. Its noise, noise and more noise.

GEJ has full control of PDP structures and would win the primary election any day, any time. That is what matter. The president has enough time to erect new structures in those few states for the purpose of securing atleast 25% of votes cast in 2015 elections.

Meanwhile, all the names on that list are house of reps members loyal to one or more godfathers who LOST OUT in the PDP power play. Its either they'r loyal to Atiku (who lost out in the entire PDP power struggle, first in 2007 and again in 2011), OBJ (lost his position as BOT chair, his loyalists in the PDP leadership were sent packing), Oyinlola (an OBJ man who lost his position as national secretary of PDP), the seven governors (lost out in the struggle for PDP presidential primary ticket) and IBB ( lost out in the PDP since the days of OBJ). Some of the legislators lost out with their home state governors (who are not members of the G-7).

So in essence, these are collection or gathering of LOSERS. To make matters worse, some of these LOSERS have fought each other at one point or the other in the past. For instance, the current governor of Adamawa state and Atiku have fought and badly injured each othe since the days of OBJ and even as recently as in 2011. These LOSERS maybe united in wanting the down fall of GEJ, but they cannot even work together for more than a few weeks.

While it is imperative that the president and other party leaders should try to resolve RESOLVABLE differences, since no political party would be happy to lose any member, the president cannot lose sleep over the shenanigans of some LOSERS. Unresolvable differences will be settled at the general elections, where the Nigerian people would have the final say.

The president was present all through yesterday at an event organised by Nigeria Economic Summit Group and did not appear to be losing sleep over the antics of these LOSERS. With the PDP primary ticket already in the bag, all the president has to worry about is the general elections and how to continue to deliver the dividends of democracy to the Nigerian people, who careless about the antics or tricks of some loser politicians.

The ongoing fight amongst Nigerian politicians is at cross purpose with the desires of the Nigerian people. What Nigerians/the man on the streets care about are reforms that'll make their life better. They'r eagerly awaiting conclusion of the power sector privatisation, more progress in the rail transport system, construction or repair of more roads, resolution of ASUU strike, completion of the ongoing standard guage rail lines, fast tracking of work on Abuja light rail, more dividends from the agric reforms, more job opportunities through more initiatives like YOUWIN,etc,etc.

Meanwhile, it is difficult not to note that over 95% of those lawmakers are from the north. The born to rule mentality. From 2011 till middle of this year when State of emergency was declared and Shekau killed, the president was distracted with Boko Haram. Now that Boko Haram appear to be going down, they'v resorted to other dirty antics. Well, the end will justify the means and POSTERITY will judge everyone of us.

Shaking my head. The usual delusional tendency of jonathan apologist to underestimate and dismiss adversaries. Right from the beginning of your senseless drivel I knew where you are going.
Is Jonathan desperation for 2015 for the Nigerian people or for his own selfish purpose?
is your clannish, tribal and blind support for Jonathan for the Nigerian people or to promote regional interest and agenda?
In your typical hypocrit8cal tendency you are accusing northerners of precisely the same thing as you south easterners are doing:
If Jonathan were from the north would you be doing all these propaganda on his behalf? honestly your duplicity is very shameful.
You keep rehashing the same press hand outs from labaran maku on imaginary achievements of the Jonathan administration as if Nigerian do live in this country. Generation of 4000 megawatts was a target since 2002. Today after billions of dollars down the drain, as I write this, it is around 2600 mega watts. Do you people have any shame at all?

zegbeye: And what is stopping the "New PDP" from taking over the presidency? some people just talk to make themselves excited

And were they going to plan a coup? They can only do that in an election.
Am sure you know that.or are you just talking to make yourself excited?!

Solarpower: thats 196
u'r talkng bout ryt? Since then til nw,naija's gdp has dropd. It did so under whose govt? Is it nt under d silly,selfish,visionless,clueless and blind leadershp of d North over a span of close to 30yrs? Go visit a doctor pls

Here we go with the crap from Jonathan people again. When obasanjo was leaving me paid off all Nigerian debts and still left billions of dollars in foreign reserve.

Incompetent , corrupt jonathan squandered it all and now we are in greater debts than we paid off.

in desperation to win in 2011, he corruptly increased fuel subsidy from 250 billion to more than one trillion!

Jonathan is not only weak, indecisive and incompetent. He is also very, very corrupt!