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Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 1:55am On Jul 24, 2023 |
Lotanna2:You are on point. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 1:54am On Jul 24, 2023 |
Penguin2:THE $460K WAS NOT A FINE WHICH MADE IT A NON CONVICTION TRAIL BUT A SEIZURE. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 1:46am On Jul 24, 2023 |
BluntCrazeMan:This is a niece piece that actually cleared Tinubu rather than nailed him. It shows clearly why USA didn't see him as a criminal as they understood people may fall victim if being in custody of drug money. Once they establish your innocence the USA government just seize the money first until you prove to them that the money eas not illegally obtained. .Since it dawned on Tinubu that the $460k was illegally obtained by the drug criminal that put it I his bank account he did not contend for the money not to be seized 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 12:21am On Jul 23, 2023 |
Penguin2:Did the circle part not referring to Nigerian law? Was the forfeiture made under Nigerian law?. Also, the next section says any conviction must have happened within the last 10 years. This happened 30 years ago. So even if Tinubu was convicted he was now free to contest since the 10 years status bar was over |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 12:13am On Jul 23, 2023 |
seunmsg:Don't mind replying to the Obidients again. Firstly, this was a case in USA which the prosecutors who had all the details of the matter didn't convict Tinubu and they have officially established that in 2003 through the response to IGP Tafa then. The USA forfeiture case was to allow govt take the money belonging to the drug criminal that he put in Tinubu's account. This is after they have established that Tinubu was innocent in the entire saga. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 11:56pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
sharpsecret:It was a forfeiture and not a fine. The USA government seized the $460k belonging to the drug trafficking criminal that put the money in Tinubu's account. Tinubu was not fined as it was established that he was not involved in the narcotics biz. So the hovt filed a civil case to seize the funds I Tinubu's account. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 2:22pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
paramakina202:The US prosecutors who tried the case and had all the facts already ruled that Tinubu did not commit a crime. That is what matters. And they opened a civil case for the forfeiture of the $460k which they already determined Tinubu has no hand in it as he was not among the actual criminals who traded in drugs and put that funds in Tinubu's account. All the acrobatics or conjectures by Obi's lawyers and any other interpretation on the matter by a third party is just an academic exercise. Moreover in 2003 President Obasanjo mandated the IGP Tafa Balogun to contact the USA online matter and they wrote back that Tinubu didn't commit a crime. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 2:02pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
BERNIMOORE:You are partially right in the the primary case was of criminal nature. Investigations revealed that the criminals kept $460k with Tinubu who was not counted as one of the criminals. Typically the prosecutors approached the court to seize the funds and expectedly Tinubu raised no objection to the request because the money was not his. It was a civil case and fully determined and it is not at originating status. I believe that the primary criminal case end as well and the criminals jailed. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 12:28pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Okwyjesus:In this particular case Tinubu knew he has been put on trouble by allowing his bank account to be used for receiving drug money. He was thankful that they didn't find him culpable for criminal offence. So, in this case Tinubu chose not to sue the government because in their records he had not committed a crime that would materially affect him which is why he could freely go to the USA and the USA ambassadors in Nigeria used to pay him visits even as a private citizen. Do you think USA will allow his officers associate with someone with a criminal past, especially a Nigerian? |
Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Challenged Forfeiture Order - Peter Obi Tells Tribunal by solreb: 12:16pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Penguin2:You need to understand the source of the $460k. The funds belonged to his uncle with whom he stayed while in school and new in the USA. That person and others were the ones involved in the narcotics biz. When the funds were traced to Tinubu's account, the authorities seized it. However the investigators did not establish that Tinubu was involved in the narcotics biz in anyway which is why he was jot prosecuted criminally. So, it was up to the uncle and not Tinubu to challenge the seizure. |
Politics / Re: Unverified: Justice Ugo Resigns, Citing Demands To 'kneecap' Democracy. by solreb: 2:09am On Jul 20, 2023 |
helinues:@jackson ude, the peddler of fake news on twitter. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Failed To Show He Scored Majority Votes, INEC Tells Court by solreb: 7:15pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
Amah70:You got it wrong. Manual collation was never discarded. Manual collation is how all the candidates were pronounced to have won. IREV was more to ensure transparency and prevent rigging at the collation center should there be a discrepancy between what what recorded at the PU and transmitted and what is announced during collation. |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Failed To Show He Scored Majority Votes, INEC Tells Court by solreb: 7:05pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
danijesus:I follow the case and I now that he brought some results in boxes and dumped them in the court. His job was to present them in a summary sheet to show how those original results make him win. To my knowledge and acclaimed by both APC and Inec he failed to do that. |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Failed To Show He Scored Majority Votes, INEC Tells Court by solreb: 11:56am On Jul 19, 2023 |
Amah70:Yet your OBI could not bring to the tribunal the original PU results his agents got and prove that he won. Or at lest showed how many votes that INEC "alloted" to Tinubu that should be deducted. He failed to do this. It is the available result that is transmitted. So, if INEC failed to transmit you bring your original results to prove your case. Very simple. The reason why Obi did not do that is because he knew he did not win nor have any evidence to show INEC alloted votes to Tinubu. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Failed To Show He Scored Majority Votes, INEC Tells Court by solreb: 11:47am On Jul 19, 2023 |
Igwe9:You missed the point. The onus is on Obi to prove that Tinubu did not win or prove how he, Obi, won. He did neither at the tribunal. Obi has taken the Obidients for a ride. 1 Like 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Failed To Show He Scored Majority Votes, INEC Tells Court by solreb: 11:41am On Jul 19, 2023 |
DoTheNeedful:The court will not also grant a rerun, because there is no basis for it. Obi and Atiiku just came to waste the court's time and entertain their followers. I know form the onset that Obi went to court just to still be relevant to the Obidients and for them to hang on hopeless hope. Obi is very wicked to take the Obidients for a ride. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Failed To Show He Scored Majority Votes, INEC Tells Court by solreb: 11:35am On Jul 19, 2023 |
Feintline:Have you heard of the phrase "the law is blind". It means that it is what you present at the court that the justices will rule upon and not what is reported in the news media or eye witness accounts. The court gave opportunity to both LP and PDP to bring evidences related to all that you alluded to above and they failed to do that. Instead of you to accept the reality, you were attacking the news paper that reported the INEC final address. Bolded is the key information for you to digest. Perhaps that will cool you down. *“Petitioners neither pleaded nor demonstrated at trial any unlawful votes of the 2nd respondent (Mr Tinubu) to be discounted from the computed scores of the parties. “… And did not present any lawful vote to be added to their own. This clearly shows…failure to lead any evidence to support same.”* 1 Like 1 Share |
Politics / Re: LP Replies Tinubu Over Threat Of Anarchy, Reveals Next Move by solreb: 2:21pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
TheRealestGuy:That Obi had 25% in 24 states above must be your own record from the dreamworld. It is better you go get your record straight. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: LP Replies Tinubu Over Threat Of Anarchy, Reveals Next Move by solreb: 10:13am On Jul 18, 2023 |
maintenant:That is your own interpretation. The matter is already before the court to interpret so chill when the justices will throw your interpretation out of the window |
Politics / Re: LP Replies Tinubu Over Threat Of Anarchy, Reveals Next Move by solreb: 10:11am On Jul 18, 2023 |
maintenant:You were using USA party flag bearer ((primary elections) selection to compare a general election requirement. That's not right. You should compare apple to apple. In Nigeria, it is the party's prerogative how they select their flag bearer in line with their constitution. And that is by the way, it is Nigeria Constitution that will apply here and the bone of contention is the 25% vote of FCT which every sane person knows that it is absurd to give FCT special treatment so definitely the Tribunal will rule in favour of PBAT on this. Olanipekun has put forward very sound points that cannot be overlooked. |
Politics / Re: LP Replies Tinubu Over Threat Of Anarchy, Reveals Next Move by solreb: 9:55am On Jul 18, 2023 |
Iamgrey5:Excellent write-up as to picture you painted with respect to future anarchy and chaos it will cause at election periods if FCT is given special status and elevated above all the other states. That is the chaos and anarchy right there and that is what the eminent lawyer Olanipekun is alluding to which the Obidients in their shallowness or mischief twisted Now, your first sentence clearly defines who Obidients are. In fact I am taken aback that LP as a party will issue this kind is statement when clearly it is a standard court process for a lwayer to bring forth arguments or pleas before the Court so that the justices can rule in the favour of his client. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 5:06am On Jul 18, 2023 |
43Ronin:It is not compulsory you comment on a post if you don't have a graspl of what is being discussed. Now let me educate you. To become president in Nigeria, you must have the highest votes and 5obtai 25% in at least 2/3 of the 36 states and FCT. Tinubu's camp is saying FCT is like any other state and as such it is 2/3 of 37 states and not 2/3 of 36 states and 25% of FCT which Is the position held by Obi and Atiku. Should FCT have a special status such that to become president you must score 25% in FCT is the bone of contention which this post is all about. It is the written address of Tinubu's lawyer to the Tribunal that contained the words "anarchy" and "chaos" that has been twisted by the OP's headline as if it was Tinubu that said it. I am sure yiu didn't read the address. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 4:47am On Jul 18, 2023 |
jaxxy:Obi knows he has already lost even before he started the Tribunal charade just to give a hopeless hope to the Obidients and remain relevant. He sure knows how to press the mumu buttons of the Obidients. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 4:38am On Jul 18, 2023 |
rummmy:As per those against PBAT's presidency, you are speaking for the Obidients and not Nigerians because we voted him into power. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 4:31am On Jul 18, 2023 |
Dunionk30:Did you the entire original post where PBAT's lawyer, Olanipekun, gave his address? It is very possible you read only the sensational headline of the OP. Please go back and read carefully then comment. I am sure your comment will ve totally different than what you have just written here. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 4:30am On Jul 18, 2023 |
zinaunreal:Did you the entire original post where PBAT's lawyer, Olanipekun, gave his address. It is very possible you read only the sensational headline of the OP. Please go back and read carefully then comment. I am sure your comment will ve totally different than what you jave just written here. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 4:29am On Jul 18, 2023 |
Vitally123:Did you the entire original post where PBAT's lawyer, Olanipekun, gave his address. It is very possible you read only the sensational headline of the OP. Please go back and read carefully then comment. I am sure your comment will ve totally different than what you jave just written here. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 7:17am On Jul 17, 2023 |
ginggerxy:Why did you pick out only Igbos?. What about other tribes including Yorubas that voted for Obi. They can go to hell. One can then infer that Obi's presidency is IGBO's agenda and only seemly hope for SE to rule Nigeria which is why Igbos want to die there even in the forthcoming glaring defeat at the Courts. Nite this that Obi can never be president of Nigeria because he doesn't just have it He can't even become the president of Biafra where Kanu and Ekpa are calling the shots. Only spot left for him is to be senator in Anambra or Twitter/Threads president where most if his followers live. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 1:24am On Jul 17, 2023 |
happney65:Hey. Ho and read The body of the post and not just the headline. Tinubu was nit threatening the judiciary. His lawyer defending him in court wrote this in his address and that is standard court process. I am amazed that all the Obidients never bother to read to understand and will quickly jump on sensa8posts to comment. |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 1:12am On Jul 17, 2023 |
Psoul:His lawyers never said he scored 25% FCT. That assertion was coming from one of the several Obidients sensational news outlets. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by solreb: 1:08am On Jul 17, 2023 |
Guynexttdoor: You have.limited yourself to the sensational headline without reading the body of tge message before commentin. I think it is better you read the address that Tinubu's lawyer made to the Tribunal which is his arguments before the court. What the lawyer did was the right thing to do. Tinubu was not the judge and he was not instructing the justices. His lawyer was making a plea before the Court why they must rule in favour of Tinubu. I believe that helps |
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