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MaxInDHouse:
So for now no good and proper justice system until the so called Messiah comes, shey?

I told you to forget about whatever happens in the past and let's focus on what is achievable now, but obviously there nothing working presently so that means God has failed woefully o!

Well,i wont say God has failed. That is unthinkable. We can still achieve it. But the fake religious leaders are not helping at all, teaching fake and empty doctrines and leading people astray.

America has showned us that it is achievable with their good justice syatem. Little wonder everybody wants to migrate there..

We cant achieve that by scaring people with hell. It is not working. A lot of people are waking up from the indoctrination. It is not called Go SPEL for nothing...

We have to teach mankind the enomorse benefit in obeying Gods laws as contained in the Torah..There is no short cut.

MaxInDHouse:
In a nutshell the so called Torah has failed to guide against chaos, neither form a good and proper justice system anywhere!

So what is the way forward?

Thats like saying God has failed..i really dont want to believe thats true.

He gave us laws he knows we can keep. Some do keep it, others dont. But end of the day..we all will, cos life is about learning and growing. If you miss it in this life, you can make a try in the next. The only purpose of life is to enjoy it in peace and harmony...But most times our greed gets on the way..

But God promised to send us a messiah, that will usher in an era of peace if we really merit it. He will end all war fare. Just as isaiah puts it. " They will hammer their swords into ploughshares.....and learn of war no more" that era has not come, not when the earth is filled with idolatry and rebelion against the most high..

Note: man thought that he can bring about peace without
obeying God's law that was why constantine gathered all the prysbeters at Nicea. They created a new God concept with a son called jesus, because he thought he could unify his empire under a single religion all in an attempt to achieve peace. They had to spend the next 2000+ years forcing people into the faith, and would kill any one who did not. They had to forge documents and mistranslated the torah to fit their propaganda or interpreted them out of context all for peace under a single religion. But at what cost?

True peace can only be achieved by obeying the laws of the most high.

Any other things is paganism..

cooltola:
Here is my point, the books of the New Testament is not a fantasy story like Harry Potter and half blood prince or James Bond and The golden eye. There are chrolongical evidences and eye witnesses on what Jesus Christ did on earth. If those men were alive, they will tell you what they saw. But imagine they did today, doubters will always doubt.The books of NT were written by several authors who were spritually inspired by God. But as usual, there are always going to be doubters. If the shootings at Lekki toll gates can have doubters despite numerous evidences of videos, eye witnesses reports and so on. then so to what Jesus did.
Still I thank God for showing Mercy to both of us. I thank God for his love for us. Again everyone is entitled to his or her belief, and that is why our Heavenly Father gave us free will to decide. He is not a God that forces one to worship him.

Can you please provide one eye witness and what he said....

Maybe i might have missed it.

MaxInDHouse:
So this so called Torah is guiding against chaos among it's adherents , shey?

Please can you tell me how to find it's adherents where a good and proper justice system is at work!

The torah is Gods divine laws....given to man, only the jews and the igbos are the only people to accept it. ..thats why they are Gods chosen people. Our duty was to teach the nations. But, we have negleted it and Gods anger has always fallen on us...

Some jews still keep it. But when the messiah comes, he is going to end all wars and teach every one the torah,, becauae he is going to be a master of it..

It is supposed to be

MaxInDHouse:
Agreed!

So have you find any form of laws that is doing that?

The Torah...

MaxInDHouse:
I will like us to forgo the past with whatever happened and the history, let's talk about the way forward because that's what's of serious concern to everyone not bygone!

So if we want to make the world a better place and we don't want to rely on the past deeds or experience of people who never had the privilege to make use of modern technology as we do now, how do we proceed?

Our only concern is to guide against chaos, one way to achieve that is to have laws, which will be backed up by a good and proper justice system...

MaxInDHouse:
All these are things written in a book and i don't think you're a staunch adherent of the book!

[b]Leave the book since you're not ready to adhere to everything in it, [/b]and let's reason from the perspective of someone who doesn't hold any book seriously like you!

Your problem is that you dont know the difference between fiction, epic, fairy tales, mythologies and metaphors and allegory...if you did, we wont be having this long back and fort discussion...

So, where do we start from?

Not everything in it is true...some where added to deceive you...

MaxInDHouse:
I think Karma should be preached to people who deliberately chose to practice evil, not someone who feels that he is doing his best in the midst of fellow adherents of virtuous codes of conduct!

Sonmvayina my friend, no matter how hard you try to be intelligent, without Christ your intelligence will be insulted when you come face to face with a true disciple of JESUS CHRIST!

So instead of arguing about evidence to prove that Jesus never existed, why not concentrate on beaten the intelligence of true Christians?

One thing is certain, the Bible referred to this man from Nazareth as the greatest Counselor ever so work out ways to prove his disciples foolish so that they can believe that Jesus wasn't that extraordinary being we all took him to be!

What is idolatry? And what does God forbids in the 2nd of the 10 commandments ?


Then educate me how worshipping a man as god is acceptable in Gods eyes...

Did God ask anybody to worship anything else apart from him? Did he endorse having a mediator or intermediary?

Is there anywhere he said the messiah will be his son or divine ?


Continue, you dont know you are been lied to.

donnie:
And when you err, why shouldn't the following verse in the law apply?

Ezekiel 18:4
...the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Yea....it us supposed to be so. But good people still die needlessly. Death is just an illusion. ..it is not a tragedy in Gods eyes..

MaxInDHouse:
There is nothing like judgment after all ignorance is part of the reincarnation process, before we go round in the circle about 20,000 times WE WILL BE READJUSTED and ignorance will be gone!

Yea..definately, but make the most of now. Rather than building up karma.

donnie:
Since when did death of MESSIAH be against keeping the commandments? Did he not die according to the law?

Abeg free me jor, na today? Sebi Nnamdi Kanu (whom I love by the way) is your only savior.

If at all he existed, the death holds no value to man or to God.

Obey Gods commandments. Thats all that is required.

MaxInDHouse:
At least one can be a Cultist in a life and in the next life when he reincarnate he/she can become like you, so nothing is at stake!



If we don't need to belong to a group of like minds then there is no reason for setting matters straight, why bother about what each person thinks or believes?

You are just too comfortable with being ignorant....continue. only time can judge..

MightySparrow:
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Phillipians 2; 11
What do you think about this verse?

Learn to distinguish what the bible writters says from what God says....one definately should trump others.

If God says dont have any intermediary, come to me directly and paul says jesus is the only mediator.. who will you obey?

Homosexuals or gays have always been part of our society long before the white man set foot on our soil. What God forbids is a man having sex with a man as they do with women. That is God forbade them from acting on it. To relieve them selves they can mastibate, after wards they are adviced to have a good bath...

But dont put your preek in another person butt hole..

But joke apart, do you know that mens g sport is found in their butt hole.

God is the creator, he is not part of creation....

bobestman:
Why are you ppl so gullible. Have you watched that Muhammed Ali interview where he said the whites whitewashed everything. They painted everything black as evil and white as good. According to Isaiah 60 ppl in darkness doesn't mean black but those oppressed or in bondage. Do you know that we still in a more mordernised slavery in Africa? They control everything will do and our leaders are their puppets. Do you know that for every 1litre of oil will sell to them, they take 10? They are the reason Africa can't move forward. [b]Only our Saviour can stand for us but many of you think He is a white man. Am tired of explaining to you guys. [/b]You all we understand soon. Enjoy your delusion

He is not coming to die, he is coming to deliver us from our enemies and establish an era of peace..

donnie:
How can you "come" to whom you have neither known nor heard of?

It's not just about colour, because what you Christians preach is another MESSIAH and a totally different gospel from what was taught by the prophets and apostles.

And you do not even know what salvation means because you have failed to recognize the people to whom it was actually promised. Not only that, but you have positioned yourself among those who must be destroyed for salvation to come to the chosen people.

I want to follow this thread snd understand it..BUT

Which prophet thought belief in the death of the messiah as against obeying the commandments of God?

Plesse educate me plesse..

MightySparrow:
Since the Bible says he is the lord and he not an idol, I believe. No regrets

The bible says so many things...But those are not Gods idea or words..
His command is "Do not have any other god before me"
Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth. Do not bow down to them or serve them. So worshipping the image and likeness of a man, something that is found on earth is prohibitted. I know God will punish me if i indulge in it...it is tantamount to idolatry.
I want you to see it for what it is.....idol worship..

cooltola:
Since Jesus Christ is a character in a story like Harry Potter against Voldemort, then my answer will not make sense to you at all or it sounds meaningless. Well this is the answer Jesus Christ is the Ultimate Sacrifice for all sins, God offered his son for the sacrifice to all mankind according to my belief. The New Testament does not make sense to you and gospel does not make sense to you. Everyone is entitled to his or her belief, some family members and friends are Muslim, some are Christians and some do not believe in any God . I belief in Jesus Christ and you practice Judaism which is very okay . You can still be polite and respectful to my belief instead of calling me a God adviser.

Yea, because i have read the old testament, i have not see where it says God has a son or God will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son and we should kill him and believe that he died for our sins before our sins will be forgiven. What i read is that God hates human sacrifice. He calls it an abomination in his sight. So i wonder where you got the idea that God sent his son as a sacrifice for sin.
God did promise to send the jews a messiah , but he said he will be from the tribe of judah and from the line of solomon..You and I know that geneology is only transfered from father to son. But the gospel says jesus was conceive by the holy spirit so that makes him not from judah since he has no father (according to the story).

So you see why i said he is just a character in a story. Since it was NEVER Gods plan. Or idea. So it must be of pagan origin.

MightySparrow:
Sorry for mistaken you for Antichristian. I don't see how this is related to the topic. The Bible says
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
2Pet. 1:16.
About Madrruk and the rest, I don't see such in any scriptures I read.
The council of Nicea issue, the discourse took decades with many discussants before finally agreeing on the creed. You may please teach more on it.
So, if your own denomination does not believe in the Lordship of Jesus, as I do by the authority of the scriptures, no problems. I believe.

No problem, just say you know it is idolatry...

cooltola:
Happy Friday and good Afternoon, I will answer your question since you assume that I am a God adviser but I have a question specific for you

Who is Jesus Christ to you? is He a prophet , the messiah or a nobody or pretender to be God?

He is just a character in a story. Just like iron man or Harry potter..or okonkwo in things fall apart...

MightySparrow:
Like I have been pointing out in this blog, are you a Bible scholar or a critic? There are so many things in your Quran that are historically not verifiable. If I may ask, why was there going to be a New Testament as prophesied by Jeremiah'? Who was Jeremiah tell us a little story about him, you could use scholarly write- ups, didn't use the Bible. (Because you believe it is corruped).How is New Testament different from Old?

I am not a muslim, i am not a christian...

So please attempt my question..

I just obey the 10 commandments and the other customs and tradition approved by God..

MightySparrow:
Antichristian: any opposer of Christians in action, words or doctrines or not seeking the prosperity of the church, and it's enlargement to outright killings with any form of weapons.

Then, the final one will be coming soon towards the end of the age.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. I John 2:18
I think since you fulfill this scripture, you are an antichrist, hence you give yourself the name antichristian. A name well deserved.
Sorry, you are harmageon, let An
Antichristian take note of this.

Look like God is also antichrist, everything the christian hold as true are all condemned by God in the old testament..whats your take in it?

Dont attack me, address my comment.

So many lies and contradictions in the so called new testament. Jesus says one thing, the unknown author says another and paul says something entirely out of point....

Whats new in it, if not confussion and absurdities....

If you ask them when God authorised it, they will attack you like the unfed lion in ogba zoo in benin city.

The story of jesus i.e the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about Marduk. Marduk is the son of Enki and the creator of the universew. It was Athanasius at the council of Nicea who said he was both god and man.

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So put what you're saying to good use by inculcating it in the minds of your invisible students, and mind you tell your students to apply what you're teaching them so that everyone can see their fine works!

You dont get it and you dont know you belong to a cult....continue.
Do i need to belong to any cult before i know what is right or wrong..?

harmargedon:
they are 3 gods in one, just like you've portrayed here. Don't don't think that the idea of Trinity started with Christianity.

Yea..because you must find a way to fit jesus into the equation. Jesus is a product of the roman propaganda. He was created in Nicea. The earlier you believe it, the better for you..

MaxInDHouse:
You often try talking intelligently but if you're not a Christian there is a level to which your intelligence can discern right teaching and wrong teaching!

If what you quoted actually means as you rendered it then your incessant worries on why some people choose to do evil makes no sense after all God is both responsible for light and darkness, good and evil so there is no need trying to reason with people or quoting the Torah since God is responsible for both good and evil!

So this is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you quoted!

When someone ask you to go and deliver a message somewhere but you're scared of those to whom you were sent, how do you feel if the one sending you now say " the light of the day in which all men walk i made it, the darkness that hinders movement i made it, those good people you're seeing i made them and those bad ones are also the products of my hand"

Well it simply means don't fear the day nor the night {Psalms 23:4} the good or evil because they all have no power to do what i can't undo! Matthew 10:28

Jesus said something similar but since you don't want to believe in him, you can't grasp the import of Isaiah's writing! Matthew 13:13-15

0.5/100......


That is an epic fail
I thought you wanted to say something intelligent. You spent your whole time dancing to the galary. You are really ignorant of the bible and God.
Isaiah 45:7 "i form the light and create darkness, i make peace and create disaster, i the lord do all these things..."

Where do you see somebody going on a journey?
Isaiah wrote that to discourage the jews who find the pagans beliefs astonishing. And discourage them from the dualistic belief just like you. I dont even belief there is a devil anywhere...whatever happens, happens because it us the will of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Would you like to know the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the highlighted or you're OK with your current understanding?

Try...i am listening .

I know God did not make a mistake when he created man. He must have factored in every possibility. It is just for us to obey simple laws, just as the passage says find rest for our soul...but alas, some people want to be lord over others, deny them their right and take away their freedom.

harmargedon:
Don't bother explaining. It has been in existence before it was suggested in the council of nicea to be used to explain Jesus as a God without going against the general Believe in one God.

Yea..but it is paganism...it has got nothing to do with the jews..the jews believe in just one God. Who is both responsible for light and darkness, good and evil ..isaiah 45:7

Preciousgirl:
I am a child of God

All these threads you are ignorantly opening. Beware , before you commit a sin that will ruin your life forever..

Plesse try and do extensive resesrch before you come here..
I dont really know your intentions, but you come accross as somebody who is lost and is hell bent of dragging people along with you..
Hmmm, God a lamb..thst is so low,...