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kingxsamz:
Me I saw Santa Claus yesterday in my dreams.
He said somethings I won't disclose yet.
Anyways, while you guys are waiting for your Jesus since you believe he'll be here anytime soon, please donate all your life savings to charity since you won't be needing it in heaven, thanks. Also sell your cars and give to the needy. Quit your jobs also and stay at home and prepare. Thank you.

Fear gree let them....

MaxInDHouse:
Hulk was never a TEACHER like Jesus!
So if you tell me "HULK is real" i'll ask you "and what has that got to do with me?"

Giving my life to Jesus means living my life in harmony with his teachings!
So Mr Sonmvayina,

what are HULK'S teachings?
And where are HULKS student so that i can learn the practical application of HULK'S teachings from them?

My guy, i know you have what it takes to disturb Churchgoers but know that anytime, anyday and anywhere you come in contact with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you must bow to higher intellect!

Just call me a Cultist to free yourself, otherwise you'll go to bed with headache this evening!

It is not long any more...the people who created him will soon come out and tell you how they did to deceive you...the age of christisnity is gradually coming to an end. The true revelation will be laid bare.....

Nuttella:
Mind the things you say, lest your tongue lead you into destruction. Proverbs 18:21.

If you don't understand something well, dont talk about it or curse, the Israelites that practice Judaism will be given a second chance to accept Christ, but you don't know that do you?

I respect my creator not a fictional character like jesus...

Just imagine if i tell you that incredible hulk is real and you must give your life to him. How will you look at me?

jantman:
@sonmvayina

I decided not to quote your above write up because I see beyong men. In this nairaland forum there are many Ocultic Grandsmaters who are anti-Jesus because in the Occult world they have been told that Christ and His works is a lie.

Satan has deceives them and will continue to deceived them.


1) Herein is the truth about God, Man and Devil.
God works
Man chooses
And the Devil deceives

2) Once a person is deceived, he does not recognize that he is deceived because he has been deceived

So is it wrong? You believe in devil and jesus ? Those entities dont exist in reality. They only exist in your mind..God is one indivisible entity that created both light and darkness..God is the lord of both..

Nuttella:
The things of the spirit are foolishness to the natural man for he does not understand them. 1 Corinthians 2:14

Stop calling the son of God a dead Jew before you incure God's wrath upon you, you remind of apostle Paul before he became a Christian.

Lol...son of god my ass....he is just a fictional character..the earlier you know, the better for you.


God is the totality of the conciouseness of the universe...not a man, we are all children of God...he is our creator...he is existence itself.

MaxInDHouse:
See the highlighted?
That's where you've shot yourself in the foot!
If you don't need members, then why always chatting with people as if your life depends on it?
Guy use your head nah!
If you don't need to belong to any group then you shouldn't bother yourself about others who chose to after all you don't need them!

I am a teacher.....

Nuttella:
I have seen Jesus Christ before, I can't unseen him. Sorry sir.

Have you treated yourself of malaria or thyphod...those illness are dangerous my dear..

I had covid 19 last year november, i almost thought i was going to die from it. I literally told my wife, "Darling i love you, if my daughter grow up, tell her i loved her" i was crying...but a voice just told me " Not your time yet, go and get dogoyaro leaves and back, cashew leaves, mango leaves and back, morringa leaves, avogadro pear leaves and boil for 20 minutes. The voice told me where to get them. My wife collected the car keys and i told her all the places, before 40 minutes she was back, she washed and boiled them...i drank 1 glass in morning and night ...3 days..i was jumping like a 15 year old...


So my dear we are all Gods children, he is our saviour. Not a dead jew that never lived..

MaxInDHouse:
I would have loved to remain a toddler than being in the midst of adults saying "f**k this f**k that" yet claiming they have PEACE!

Lol....it is so annoying seeing africans worshipping a dead jew, that has no proof of ever existing as God. In this information age....so..i will allow him..

MaxInDHouse:
Like a wise man once said "let's your product speak for you"
So get to work and present a better performing group of people where LOVE, JOY and PEACE is reigning in their midst, otherwise i'll prefer to live and continue calling PEACE LOVERS to come and taste TRUE PEACE {Psalms 34:8} your brother wants to worship his DEAD ancestors so let's compare what is happening in the midst of worshipers of the DEAD to what we have now in the midst of worshipers of a living GOD.
Your first problem now is how to gather yourselves together so that honest hearted and sincere observers can SEE what you're doing!

I have told you this before, i will tell you again...i dont need to be a member of a cult or group to show love, joy or prace...group and cults breeds hatred...jw are not spared...comprende?

Nuttella:
You claim African religion worshipped God back in the days, does God permit human sacrifices? Igbo's worshipped Amadioha and Ani, those are not God but they are demons who possessed idols.

Take for instance, you carved a wooden doll and every morning, you worship the doll, keep water and food for the doll, it won't reach 1week, a jobless demon looking for who to worship him will come and possess the doll. Demons are jobless spirits, they don't have body, that is why they forcefully possess human being, which is also why they hate human being.

You really want to learn, i can sense it...but i am not a fast writter. I really want to educate you. But first you have to unlearn those bull shiit you have been fed with.

You are just throwing stones everywhere..i dont even know where to start..

Can we do whatsapp?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy stop deceiving yourself!

Every sane person even a toddler knows that anytime you see someone saying "f**k this f**k that" such a person is not mentally stable!

PEACE comes naturally from the heart and it's those around you that will sense it you can lie to your own soul. Ordinarily listening to you shows that you don't know what PEACE means.
For your information, there are places today on this planet where the inhabitants never thought of education and technology but they're at PEACE amongst themselves!
You carrying China, America and Russia in your head shows your level of understanding about TRUE PEACE!

Are you a toddler?

Soulrebel2:
I studied psychology so I know what the power of changing history can do to the mind of a civilization.. Pastor standing on the pulpit and hypnotizing his/her congregation..tell people to close their eyes and focus on his voice., then sing some hypnotizing songs, then make you believe that some anointing fell on you..sad!...


*We are the 5% of the population built with the knowledge of self, 10% know about this knowledge but keep it hidden, so we the 5% are the righteous teachers..we must liberate the minds of the 85%..

It is a tough job..i tell you.

Nuttella:
Africans worshipped demons, simple and short. Nobody forced us to know God, I have seen the raw power of God made manifest in my life, not heresay.

Lol..God is within us my dear..

"Let us make man(and woman) in OUR OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS......

Do you know what that means?
Everything about God is part of us....do you understand it?

Nuttella:
Oga stay in one spot, do you practice Judaism or African religion or are you an atheist? you are running around in a circle, be specific about your stand, let me know where to tackle you from.

Cause people practising Judaism worship same God as us, they are our brothers too.

The only thing God wants from us is to obey his commandments. That is what i am doing. I only quote the old testament because you are used to the bible..

I only follow Gods commandment which is the same as the jewish torah. Gods commandment is universal...

Nuttella:
Do you know what it means to be #1 religion in the whole world? If God didn't exist and Jesus didnt die on the cross as you said, Christianity would have died long time ago, but it is the raw power of God that kept Christianity in the number 1 spot, something your African tradition is struggling with even the least spot, The African religion is not even recognized, its pure evil which is why it was abolished, no wonder they were killing twin, Christain missionaries came and stopped the killing of twin in Igbo land, the brought light and delivernance to us. Yet you want to go back to darkness, you love darkness abi, you love playing around with water spirits and territorial spirits. God is watching you.

Just be humble, i am willing to school you. You really dont know anything about african traditional religion or christianity...hmm, that is a very bad position to be....


Just start by researching about the crusades and the carthars.....christianity was spread with the sword. And they target you when you are young..and cant discern things.....

Nuttella:
Stop quoting Jesus Christ when you dont believe in him, that's double standard.

Lol...very funny. The people who created the jesus character put those words in his mouth. Those truth has been known to people before the council of nicea where jesus was created.

Nuttella:
And yet Christianity is the number 1 religion in the world not Judaism or African religion.

Jokes on you.

Herd mentality..

Nuttella:
And yet Christianity is the number 1 religion in the world not Judaism or African religion.

Jokes on you.

Narrow is the road that leads to salvation.....only few finds it....

I am not part of the crowd, i am part of the few that found the narrow road..

MaxInDHouse:
Billions of people are more than 100% sure that Jesus of Nazareth is alive as i'm speaking now so your opinion doesn't count!

Even if 1000% of people belief a lie, does it become truth? Like he said herd mentality is your problem..


You are scared of breaking away from the cult..

Nuttella:
So what's the way forward? Will u become a herbalist or a wizard?

My dear, if there was 2% power in the name of jesus, the white man will never give him to you. If christianity can make you a better person in the eyes of God. The white man will never give it to you..if there was ever a God, it was our God. We worshipped and reverenced ONE God, under different names, the igbos called him Chukwu, the yorubas called him Olodumare and the binis called him Osanobua. Same God, different stories, same message. We understood the orishas as being the children of God. And we also knew that God was within each and every one of us. The mythologies where a way we thought ourselves about what was important. We never took those stories literally.

My dear, the jews who owns the old testament, has been saying they dont recognise jesus, and that he is useless to them and to God. But you would rsther follow the romans. Jesus is a creation of the romans. He has got nothing to do with God or man. He is not part of God..God is the creator. He is outside of space and time. He is indivisible...He is all powerful..He wants you to come to him directly.."Do not have any other God before me"..no intermediary or middle man. The only way to do so is to obey his commandments which we igbos call the "odinani"
It is called the torah by the jews.
Christianity is an absurdity and abomination in Gods eyes.

Soulrebel2:
You don't serve a powerless god?..wow...gunmen came into a church service in ozubulu anambra state and massacred people during service and what did your god do?..(the so called priest even ran for his life)...

But you dare not come into the altar of our ancestors and disrespect them..you personally know what will happen.. I don't need to tell you..so who is the powerless god in this picture

Definately fictional jesus....i am 100% sure that guy never existed...

Then this..

Preciousgirl:
John 6:65-66

[65]And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

[66]From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.

"And God said "let us make man in our own image after our likeness, let them have dominion over the beast in the feeds and the ......

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And God fashioned man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul...

So man is made up of dust of the earth and the breath of God..The same word used for breath here is also used as spirit in psalm 104: 29-31...send forth your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth,take it and they die and return to earth.

So at death , the spirit returns to God. Since it is his property and the body back to earth from where it was taken..
So which of them is jesus saving?
When the prophet where speaking of salvation it is always from physical danger.

So what is jesus or believing in his death saving you from ?
God gave us laws to keep so that the spirit can have a good experience while dwelling in this vessel, you are saying the laws are no longer applicable, a law he said will last forever. You are blindly following those who want to deceive you into idolatry...

Continue...time never reach for you to get sense..

He can get a good job so that he can save himself and his family from hunger. And send them to a good school so they can learn to think not be like you that has an imaginary friend and enemy..

Torah is clear that G-d is one, and not a compound unity. G-d is not a trinity -- He is One.

D'varim / Deuteronomy 6:4 is very clear. G-d IS singular – one, not three.

Everytime trinitarians see the number three in the T'nach they tend to say it points to the triune god. But the T'nach is clear: G-d is one.

“That you will know that G-d, He (ה֣וּא – singular) is the (singular) Supreme Being and there is none besides Him." (singular) D'varim / Deuteronomy 4:35.

"Now, O L-rd our G-d, deliver us from his hand, so that all kingdoms on earth may know that You ALONE, O L-rd, are G-d.” (T'hillim / Psalm 113:5).

"Before Me (SINGULAR) no god was formed, nor will there be one after Me (SINGULAR). I (SINGULAR), even I (SINGULAR), am the L-rd, and besides Me (SINGULAR) there is no savior.” (Yeshayahu / Isaiah 43:11).

"So said the L-rd, your Redeemer, the ONE who formed you from the womb, “I am the Lord Who makes everything, Who stretched forth the heavens alone, Who spread out the earth ALONE (לְבַדִּ֔י).” (Yeshayahu / Isaiah 44:24).

"I am the L-rd, and there is no other; besides Me there is no G-d… I will strengthen you…I order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the L-rd and there is no other!” (Yeshayahu / Isaiah 45:5-6).

One last attempt by trinitarians to "prove" that even Jews believe in a "complex unity" G-d is the misuse of the Kabbalistic concept of the Sefirot. Jews for Jesus goes so far as to say "kabbalah teaches that G-d is indeed a compound unity." This is totally false.

קַבָּלָה / Kabbalah is the Jewish mystical doctrine. Kabbalah is complex and difficult to understand without years of Torah education. Far too many today are trying to "dabble" in the deep waters of Kabbalah without first learning how to swim (and understand the basics, and foundations of Judaism). At its heart Kabbalah explores G-d's interaction with the world, and the purpose of Creation.

At the heart of Judaism, as expressed in the Rambam's second principle is the complete and total unity of G-d. As the Rambam wrote “I believe with perfect faith that G-d is One. There is no unity that is in any way like His. He alone is our G-d He was, He is, and He will be."

Kabbalah accepts this principle. The error of trinitarians when considering the sefirot (the ten ways G-d interacts with the universe) is that they confuse how He interacts with His creation (the ten / שכינה /
Sefirot). The ten are:

חכמה / Chochmah - wisdom,
בינה / Binah - understanding,
דעת / Da'at - knowledge,
חסד / Chessed - kindness,
גבורה / Gevurah - strength,
תפארת / Tiferet - beauty,
נצח / Netzach - victory,
הוד / Hod - splendor,
יסוד / Yesod - foundation,
מלכות / Malchut - kingship.

In some lists כֶּתֶר / keter / crown may be found instead of דעת / Da'at - knowledge.

Kabbalah teaches that everything that happens in the spiritual worlds takes place through the Sefirot. but the Sefirot are not G-d. No Jew prays to or through any of the emanations -- they are simply our way of trying to describe how we perceive G-d's interactions -- it is forbidden to pray to anyone or anything other than the One G-d. To repeat: the Sefirot are not G-d, and the Kabbalists warn that one should not pray to them. The missionaries are simply misusing the concept of Kabbalah, as they misuse the meaning of the word for "one" and any other out of context concept they can find to give some credence that Jesus could have been a part of a triune G-d. 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, not 1.


Principle number 2: "We believe that this Primal Cause [G-d] is One. [His is] not like the oneness of a pair, nor like the oneness of a species, nor like man, whose complex oneness may be divided into many units, nor like the oneness of a simple body, which is one in number but may be divided and separated without end. Rather, He is One with a Oneness that knows no parallel in any manner. This is the Second Principle, as affirmed by the verse (D'varim / Deut. 6:4): "Hear O Israel, G-d is our L-rd, G-d is One."

The second principle of Judaism is that there is only one G-d. Again, many Christians will insist that they are monotheists and believe in only one G-d, but most Christians actually believe in a triune god – 3 persons that somehow (through what even they refer to as a “mystery”) equals one.

The concept of a triune god is completely foreign to the Torah and to Judaism. The word theophany is a GREEK word. There is no such concept in Judaism, it is the OPPOSITE of Judaism which teaches G-d is incorporeal. He has no body, now shape, no form.

G-d is outside of time and space. He has no physical attributes at all, and is completely unique. He is unconditionally independent of anything. His is a Oneness that knows no parallel. The emphasis on G-d's Unity rejects the subtle influences of polytheism which could exist even in a monotheistic system (such as the trinity). “I am the first and I am the last and besides Me there is no other.” (Yeshayahu / Isaiah 44:6).

The belief of G-d as One and unique is repeated time and again in the Torah. Jews recite it in the Sh’ma twice daily “Hear (Listen) O Israel, The L-rd our G-d, the L-rd is One.” (D’varim / Deuteronomy 6:4).”

While G-d communicates with us and uses various external ways to interface with humans (through angels, through a burning bush and a cloud) He Himself is none of these things. G-d’s essence itself is indivisible and we are forbidden from imagining any form associated with Him. Something that transcends both time and space cannot be described as consisting of three different aspects. The moment we attribute any such distinctions to G-d’s essence, we negate His absolute Oneness and unity.

Missionaries will point to times when human terms are used to describe G-d. It may speak of G-d’s arm (for example). Yet the T’nach also tells us that G-d has seven eyes that wander through the earth (no body, just eyes!) – based on Zechariah 4:10. Sh’mot / Exodus 19:4 describes G-d with wings like a vulture, and so on. . . Those terms are taken as not literal – although missionaries insist that descriptive terms that seem human must be literal – even though the T’nach tells us time and again that G-d has no form, that we never saw a form for Him and that no one can see Him and live. . .

"But beware and watch yourself very well throughout your life, in case you forget the things that your eyes saw, and in case these things depart from your mind; and you are also to make them known to your children and to your grandchildren, [about] the day you stood before HaShem your G-d at Horev (Sinai) . . . HaShem spoke to you (the entire nation, 3 million people) . . . you heard the sound of the words, but you saw no image - there was only a voice." (D'varim / Deuteronomy 4:9-12).

Trinitarians will go to great lengths to try to find triune gods in the T’nach. Even though time and time and time again the T’nach tells us G-d is one and there is no other.

Earlier I quoted D’varim / Deuteronomy 6:4 which clearly says “G-d is One” – and yet missionaries will take the Hebrew word for “one” (אֶחָד / ehad) and insist that it means more than one. They say that ehad can be a compound unity.

אֶחָד / ĕcḥad can be a compound unity (see B'reshit /Genesis 2:24 as an example) – but far more often it is an “absolute one” and not compound at all. It is NOT found in D'varim / Deuteronomy 6:4 – the Sh’ma, which says“Listen, O Israel – the L-rd your G-d, the L-rd is ONE”

The word "One" in this Deuteronomy 6:4 is an adjective, and it describes the proper noun "the L-rd" (SINGULAR), which rules out the possibility of a "compound unity" in this passage. It is an "absolute one."

Other examples of this “absolute one” can be found in 2 Samuel 13:30: "Absolom has slain all the king's sons, and there is not one of them left"and 2 Samuel 17:12:"And of all the men that are with him we will not leave so much as one."In Hebrew nouns are singular or plural – similar to English.

Some missionaries will latch on to the statement "Let us make man", found in B'reshit / Genesis 1:26 -- insisting that the "us" refers to the plurality of G-d.


Yet, B'reshit / Genesis 1:26 begins with the words "And G-d said." In Hebrew it begins with the word וַיֹּאמֶר / vayomer “and he said” -- HE -- singular.


Hence B'reshit /Genesis 1:26 begins “and G-d (SINGULAR) said let us make man." If G-d were a trinity it would be plural. But G-d is ONE, not three. If G-d were a plurality the sentence would begin with the plural וַיֹּאמְרוּ / vayom'ru “and they said.” It does not. It is singular. The plural term can be found as in B'réshıt / Genesis 11:3, 11:4; 18:5, 18:9 as well as throughout the Torah – but whenever G-d speaks it is singular “and He said.”


This is because G-d IS singular – one, not three.

Since G-d is one in the passage, who is the "us"? There are various opinions. Possibly G-d is speaking of Himself as a king refers to himself in the plural. Perhaps He is speaking to His royal heavenly court. . . The Ramban's explanation is the "us" refers to the planet earth itself -- because man is made of the earth (body) and of the soul (from G-d) -- so G-d is including the earth as being part of the "us" which created man.

Line 27 (the very next line) repeats over and over again that G-d is singular, G-d is one: "And G-d created man in His image; in the image of G-d He created him; male and female He created them."

Some missionaries will insist that the word in Hebrew for "one" (אֶחָד / ĕḥad) does not really MEAN one. This is patently ridiculous. The word for "one" in Hebrew works exactly as the word "one" does in English. Read the word אֶחָד / ĕḥad in verses like B'réshıt / Genesis 21:15 Hagar put her dying child, Ishmael, "she cast the child under one of the bushes". If this were a "compound unity" there would be many shurbs (a group of shrubs). Do Trinitarians imagine Hagar putting Ishmael under many different shrubs all at the same time (וַתַּשְׁלֵךְ אֶת־הַיֶּֽלֶד תַּֽחַת אַחַד הַשִּׂיחִם “she threw the boy under ĕḥad [one] of the shrubs”)?

B'réshıt / Genesis 22:2 says "take your son, your only one" and -- if אֶחָד / ĕḥad) does not really MEAN one would not the translation say something about taking Isaac up onto multiple different mountains? But it does not say that -- it says וְהַעֲלֵֽהוּ... עַל אַחַד הֶהָרִים אֲשֶׁר אֹמַר אֵלֶֽיךָ “take him up... onto ĕḥad [one] of the mountains that I will tell you about."

Obviously the word "one" in English (or אֶחָד / ĕḥad in Hebrew) can refer to a compound unity (like one ocean containing trillions of drops of water, or one bunch of grapes containing many individual grapes) or an absolute unity (e.g. one grape) -- and it is important to know which is which a true "one" or a compound unity by grammar and by context.

Sheggy13:
Imagine how you're saying what's totally wrong and trying to correct another who's correct with so much arrogance? This is the same arrogance you display on biblical matters thinking only you have the monopoly of the correct knowledge of God's words while others don't know what they're saying/doing. So you think over 180 million Nigerians including the political class, senior lawyers, oppositions etc were foolish and only you was wise in allowing GEJ get away with illegality for so long without any dissenting voices raised? You should have gone back to read your constitution before spewing what you said which only applies when both the President and Vice President can't continue to be in Power. The Senate President steps in and within three months he has to conduct an election to fill the void. Read Section 146, Subsections 1 and 2 of the Nigerian Constitution 1999 (As amended).

Dont mind him jare...
He is not well at all...

Kobojunkie:
It will never be like GEJ and yar adua since you all were hoodwinked by the Goodluck gang into believing he was the only choice as far as completing Yar adua's term in office.

This guy, you are really out of torch with reality...please see a specialist before it gets out of hand.

When a president passes on , the constituition says the vice president should be sworn in...

donnie:
Yh, there are some who think so.

She or Nancy pelosi...

God is conciousenes......personified.

I really think she will be the president to complete joe Bidens tenure, just like GEJ and yar adua

elated177:
Ehe? What is your point?

God created both, he is the source of both....they are complimentry. Not opposing. We need both to survive..