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Maynman:
Athanasius was part of those that defended the trinity concept.

Where are you getting your jargons?

It was him who said he was both God and man...
Some factions believed the logos was God
Another factions believed he was man...

Athanasius stood up and said he was both...

That was why Eusebius had to forge a human history for him...

Maynman:
Tell me the sources where you studied from sir, especially were iraneus came much much later after nicea.

I never said iraneus came much letter, whatever he had was not either of the four gospels..and moreover Christianity started from Egypt, it was after the council of Nicea that emperor Constantine told Eusebius to collect what was good in the manuscript that was presented by the presbyters and produce a single document..After Constantine has approved it, he gave him money to prepare 50..

Eusebius gospel of mark was the original copy...

GLHHub:
Further explanation please?

Devil or Satan does nothing without God's "ok"

They are part of God's kingdom and are not enemies, God has none...
God is everywhere and both devil and Satan are inside the "everywhere"...

They only do what God has programmed them to do...any other thing is subject to God's approval.

The devil is the god of darkness. The Yorubas calls them orisha. His symbol is a black goat or the moon.(. Capricorn)

Satan is the orisha of the air or wind.. his symbol is the bull (Taurus)

Dantedasz:
So why are these letters in a so called canonical book and why are they being quoted by the adherents as gospel truth?

Can't you create a religion out of anybook..?

The early church edited them to comply to what they wanted to teach people..

Dantedasz:
Just imagine this ignorance. There are 21 letters that are BOOKS in the new testament of the bible!
These letters are trusted,quoted and followed by adherents of Christianity every day!

So

is that what makes them the world of God?

Letters that contradict every of God's divine laws and makes mockery of them..

TheMadame:
Why not tell us how a personalised letter became a part of a religious book read,quoted and followed by millions??

The matter tire me......

Maynman:
Iraneus came much much later after nicea abi, keep deluding yourself.

Those books were written long before eusebius was born, there entering into the official Canon was the issue and Canon was not finalized until the Synod of Rome by pope Damasus.

What nonsense...
Go study more...

Just imagine the iphone battery challenging Steve Job(God rest his soul).

It is just Hilarious to say the least..

The biggest insult this so called men if God and by extension all Christians is to think that it is what the devil likes that he does...nothing can be further from the truth. EVERYTHING ..I mean EVERYTHING the devil or Satan does is done with the expressed permission from God his creator. The devil or Satan is not a dual opposite of God. He has no choice, he must bend to the divine will of God..

TheMadame:
Good day.
I have recently read 1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 9-15. People always talk about the fact that this chapter of the Bible admonishes women to be silent in church and learn from their husbands but are silent on the part about women's dressing in particular braided hairstyles. Verse 9 is the verse on which I seek enlightenment.
I only seek knowledge not quarrel or insults please.


1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 9-15.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

How did Paul's personal correspondence with his friend Timothy become "the word of God"?

Or the ones he wrote to his frat members in Corinth, Theselonica or Phillipi?

LordReed:
From you!

That guy looses his chain of thought so easily..look how he will twist what he just said...

He probably goes off his meds, I just pray he does not blow all the fuses...

Maynman:
so this is Sonmvayina, iraneus "came much much later after nicea" abi and Eusebius wrote book of mark 😂😂

You have not addressed my question..

Quit dodging it...

What was the Arianian controversy

And what did Athanasius say to satisfy both sides?..
If they had those books, why would they be arguing?

Who quoted from the books pre Nicea..?

Aemmyjah:
Ransom are not necessarily applied during times of kidnap
You can ransom a child from an abusive parent
You can ransom a slave from a master
Ransom is also applied ij times of war to free captives


Our first parents by their rebellion, sold us into captivity of sin and death
No imperfect man can free us from such as the price is too high
Only a perfect life can free us
Jesus, a perfect son of God, paid the Ultimate price and opened the prospect for everlasting life for all of us. Through him, we can gain everlasting life
That's why he's described as the everlasting father- a role, he'll fulfill in the near future

You have not answered my question..
Who did he pay the price to?

Who asked for it?

Whose plan was it?

Your supposed answers are raising more questions...

We are God's(spirit) just having a human experience...
We are=, God the father + God(dess) the mother(earth).

When we expire, our spirit returns to God the father and becomes one with it, waiting for another opportunity to experience humanity, till it has fulfilled all the laws, then it can move to another realm or become spiritual guides..or masters(and only reincarnate when they are needed to set humans free), the Jews are still waiting for such a messiah, while the Romans created one just to deceive people and make them governable.....while the earth receives our body and becomes one with it.

God speaks to us through our instinct and through nature..... listen carefully..

One thing people must understand is that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. When we expire, our spirit returns back to the spiritual realm and our bodies are buried for it to return to earth, from where it was taken...
One other thing people must understand is the mantra "As above so below"
As within so without"

Like I have always said, God created everything in twos...A physical or material world and a spiritual or immaterial world.

God only gave us the laws that govern the physical world, they are the laws of existence which forms the basis of the Igbo omenani and odinala...and the Jewish Torah, and the indian veda's...etc.

A different law is operational in the spiritual realm. I don't bother myself with them.
As human beings are jealous so is spiritual beings...As we have relationship here so is obtainable there..

That explains the idea of twin flame. You can incarnate here on earth while your twin flame is still in the spiritual realm...meeeen, she go worry you well well...she might not to share you with any other woman. ..and gets angry when she sees you with one...she can come to you in your dreams...and spoil any relationship you have..

I have shared my own story here before..

I had to appease her and had a night long discussion with her.. long story short. She became a protector and guide.....

She allowed me to get married. (I am now, at 39 years old)....

She is now an ally..

Dtruthspeaker:
Christ was not human. That is the difference

He was what?

Kobojunkie:
The secret to finding God is obedience to His teachings and commandments — God's Law. There is no other way or crook you can get at Him aside from this. Even all the prayers in the world can not get you a way around this one mandate which is obedience of God's every teaching and commandment in His Law, JESUS Christ.

Problem solved..

Dtruthspeaker:
Only idiots cannot discern a myth from a real eyeity.

The class you belong to...

Because you can not accept the reality that you wasted your whole life and resources on it...

triplechoice:
Ok. If that helps you .

That's the only logical way..

Dtruthspeaker:
Only mad people fear Hollywood creations.

Only morons think people in a myths are real...

budaatum:
Your question implies the assumption that one must subscribe to something. To wit, my Alma Mata. My subscription is long standing.

Another way of considering is, what do I hold as my living philosophy. And that would be my learning. Or shall I say, a previous skill I once had to sit on my lazy ass and read books. I don't table d'hôte any one book holy above all others however. I a la carte instead, taking the best from all.

Sonmvayina, what do you subscribe to?

You might see the illogicality from my perspective.

Thanks...a better perspective..

Where are in the same bus on this one..

MrPRevailer:
We don't need anymore sacrifices. The sacrifice of a sinless man is ONCE and Sufficient.
All you have to do is call on the blood of Jesus to wash all your sins (mention the ones you can remember).

The Jews are still trying to build the Third temple to restore the animal sacrifices.
But their conflict of interest with their Muslim neighbours has made it impossible.

The blood of animals is now rendered obsolete by the blood of Christ. {John 14:6}
So even their animal sacrifices today will not be accepted by God.
Moreover, according to Moses Law, the animal sacrifices were conducted by specifically the generation of Aaron only (called LEVITES).

According to the Bible Prophesy, Israel will make a covenant of Peace agreement with the Antichrist. They will successfully build the Third Temple. But the Antichrist will desecrate it a few years after.

But you said God does not accept human sacrifice?
Why are you speaking with both sides of your mouth..?

I used a ram and some other stuff women want...and I don't have sex with my wife on Sundays...That's how far I could go...

Sophia don relax.....she still helps me and guides me from other side...she is my good ally. I don't see her as an enemy...

triplechoice:
The concept of spirit husband and wife, which has infiltrated Christianity in Africa and is being used by some Pentecostal pastors in Nigeria and other parts of Africa to scam their gullible followers , is from traditional African religion.


No where in the Bible is the idea mentioned or even hinted at, yet it's one of the major subject of discussion amongs Pentecostal Christians who are not even aware of where the notion of a spirit spouse has emanated from

By believing in such a thing, they have unknowingly accepted a belief that's antithetical to their religion . Spirit spouse is tied to reincarnation.

Within the circle of those who originally hold on to the idea, ATR, practitioners , it's believed that there's a corresponding inner world or spiritual world where people go to once they depart from this physical one through death .

According to them ,the other world contains everything that you find here .

There are houses ,markets ,farms ,animals ,humans ,male and female you can marry and have children with .

And after spending some time there , one may choose to return, reincarnate , back to this physical world.

If the returning person is already married over there , he or she must remain faithful by not getting married here .

Any attempt to get married ,will result in problems for both the person and the intending partner .The only way out is to appease the spirit spouse without which nothing happens .

This is the summary of the idea of a spirit spouse amongs ATR practitioners . If you want to know more, meet with them , and not pastors who have reworked the concept like an old tune and now singing it heartily in churches in order to fleece their members of their hard earned money.

I pity the ladies more . They are the ones falling easy victims in churches and elswhere because of the desperation to get married..

Spirit spouse is superstitious belief .Things don't change after any deliverance or rituals .

Well, I'm speaking from the many things I have seen both in the village and in the cities

I know of some persons who have gone through the necessary rituals or deliverance meant to free them from the so call spirit spouse but nothing has changed .

The only solution is to appease...

The spirit spouse can allow you to enjoy your human incarnation...

I have challenged DTruthspeaker to enumerate his beliefs so we can have a good idea of where he is coming from so we can better guide him towards the right path. He has gone south on it.
I am asking you now Maynman, what are your thoughts on Gods, spirituality, demons, Angels..and religion in general..our problem might just be that of nomenclature.

So please, let's roll.

budaatum:
People who want to know what I subscribe to would simply ask me instead of trying to decipher it from piss, sonm.

The image below is for knownunknown to see you watching the piss instead of the human being pissing.

What do you subscribe to?

Steep:
No, Isaiah said the LORD laid on him the sins of Israel.

Unlike the suffering servant Israel was punished for her rebellion.

Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Unlike Israel, the suffering servant had done not violence and no deciet is found in him.


Ezekiel 12:19 And say unto the people of the land, Thus saith the Lord GOD of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and of the land of Israel; They shall eat their bread with carefulness, and drink their water with astonishment, that her land may be desolate from all that is therein, because of the violence of all them that dwell therein.

Read it in context...

Jesus can not be the suffering SERVANT...

Maynmaynmayn:
Every material thing contains a soul.

Every living thing is a soul...

budaatum:
What bothers me about this thread is you all will have children you will be responsible to educate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMw6Bj7Idis

https://www.britannica.com/science/spherical-Earth

The earth is round...like a snow globe...

Maynman:
How you can be basing your life on forged jewish books talking about their local god fighting other local gods, but you are abusing Christians using their own forged books 😂.


All these mardukites sha

Christianity is not derived from Judaism..