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I can adopt if both of us have the problem (infertility). If it's my husband's problem and we have tried for years, i'm afraid i may leave him and try my luck elsewhere. If it's mine then he's free too and when he leaves me i will go and adopt. I doubt if i will be happy adopting when i know i can have mine. Though easier said than done but me I no fit for mental and emotional torture.

You are a raw talent, pls don't let it die.

cococandy:
i dunno o.

I'm wondering why they didn't just leave it as sperm and egg cells. There would certainly be no issues about any party discarding theirs if they didn't want to have a child anymore. They had to go ahead and create embryos.

This is even my first time of hearing frozen embryo. IMHO, the woman should just soft-pedal. The man needs those children badly. But really like Kanwuliajara said no condition is permanent. I guess when they were making the decision in love, they didn't know a time like this will arise.

cococandy:
This their case is one of the most interesting of recent times. Following the events closely. Hmm

There's not much of middle ground for them to meet each other halfway without one of them consenting to be a parent against her will or the other not being the parent that he wants to be.

But will the embryos be frozen till eternity? The case strong no be lie

fromnigeria:
Fela Called it stalmate, thats what I call it too.

A stalemate indeed. But nawa o, frozen embryo! I thought we were at the level of frozen egg

This story is about a “frozen embryo” battle in a U.S. law court. It has two main characters.

Character 1: Sofía Margarita Vergara is an American actress of Colombian origin. She is reputed to be the highest paid and richest actress on U.S. television. She acts in the television series, Modern Family.

Character 2: Nick Loeb is a Florida-based businessman and son of a former U.S. diplomat and banker. He will be 41 years old this August. Nick has no children and is divorced from his Swedish-model wife.


Nick and Sofia

Nick and Sofia’s paths crossed and they began dating in 2010. By 2012 the gossip industry was abuzz that the couple’s relationship was falling apart. But in the same year the couple announced their engagement. However, by 2014, Nick and Sofia had gone their different ways. And, that was when this story began.

Sometime in 2013, Nick and Sofia decided that since their very hectic lives hardly gave them time to conceive and raise a baby, they would use modern technology to preserve her eggs for the future. They opted for in vitro fertilization technology to freeze their embryos. Then, Sofia told the world that “I wanted to make sure I already froze some eggs so, you know, I wanted to take advantage of the science and why not?”

When the couple split almost a year later, what to do with the frozen embryos (for two girls) became problematic. In a nutshell, Nick wanted to proceed and grow their two babies, but Sofia who had become engaged to actor, Joe Manganiello, was not entertaining the idea of having her former boyfriend’s baby.

Matters rose to unanticipated heights when Nick went to court incognito to have it declare that he could have the embryos implanted in a surrogate mother and have the babies. But his cover was blown and the issue became public. That was when it became known that Nick and Sofia had entered into a legal agreement over the frozen embryos. The agreement stipulated, among other things, that “no unilateral action can be taken with regard to the embryos unless both parties consent.”

Sofia has not come out to say that she wants embryos destroyed. Neither does she want the process of having the embryos become babies to commence. She just wants the situation to remain as it is. Nick says that he is determined to have the embryos grown to life.

“I asked her (Sofia) to let me have the embryos, offering to pay for all expenses to carry our girls to term and raise them (but) she has refused,” he says.

A child needs a mother

The issue is not about money because Sofia has plenty of it. She told an interview that she has an “embryo” contract with Nick and there was no way he could unilaterally do anything about it. Besides, she contends that “a child needs a mother. More than a mother, it needs a loving relationship of parents that get along, that don’t hate each other …” She added that “it would be so selfish” to bring a child into the world where both parents were already at loggerheads and would not provide a good environment to nurture it.

Sofia’s attorney added his voice to the dispute some weeks ago when he released a statement claiming that his client “has never wanted to destroy her embryos…Vergara, who has happily moved on with her life, is content to leave the embryos frozen indefinitely as she has no desire to have children with her ex, which should be understandable given the circumstances.”

This idea of letting the embryos be put under lid in perpetuity is part of what irks Nick. He put his thoughts this way in a newspaper article he wrote on the matter: “Many have asked me: Why not just move on and have family of your own? I have every intention of doing so. But that doesn’t mean I should let the two lives I have already created be destroyed or sit in a freezer until the end of time.”

Nick, a self-declared Catholic and a Republican by political party affiliation, raised another issue in his article. According to him, “When we create embryos for the purpose of life, should we not define them as life, rather than as property? Does one person’s desire to avoid biological parenthood (free of any legal obligations) outweigh another’s religious beliefs in the sanctity of life and desire to be a parent?

“A woman is entitled to bring a pregnancy to term even if the man objects. Shouldn’t a man who is willing to take on all parental responsibilities be similarly entitled to bring his embryos to term even if the woman objects? These are issues that, unlike abortion, have nothing to do with the rights over one’s own body, and everything to do with a parent’s right to protect the life of his or her unborn child.”

No one can predict how the court will rule on this matter. But, if precedents are things to go by, eight largely similar cases have been thrown out by the courts on previous occasions. Nick is undaunted. He wants to fight on, even as Sofia is busy with wedding arrangements with her new man, Joe, to whom she is now engaged.

While Nick and Sofia play their “embryo” games, some voices on medical ethics are being raised that this form of battle is what results when the rich and powerful continue to use modern technology to toy around with conception and human life.

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Juzzybabe, never you leave your child for anybody. Learn from others mistake. Children are harder on their mum than dad. I have a friend who wouldn't forgive the mum completely for 'abandoning' them. It's either you stay with your child or you leave with your child. Be wise

thorpido:
PCV-pneumococcal conjugate vaccine.It prevents meningitis and pneumonia.
It's usually paid for just like Rotavirus vaccine cos it is not routine.

Thanks for the info once again. You na teacher o

Because you are not getting any sort of satisfaction from your husband. It happens. It's either you leave him or you try and salvage anything salvageable from your marriage. Adultery never ends well. All the best

Juzzybabe:
ROTARIX 6,300 and PCV 6,500 That's what they nurses wrote for me. UCH to be precise.
Anyway,now that am hearing it's free in health centers I think that's where I will take my baby when it's time,that's if I will still be in Nigeria.

Rotarix isn't free sha that i know cos it's not routine. Don't know anything about PCV, have never come across it sef.
This aside, please think deeply and act fast. God will direct you

kernel504:

I've heard this quote a million and one times, and so... today l decided to reply the ignorance. The Chinese, Americans, Japanese, Germans don't come to Nigeria because we have better facilities or social amenities more than them, but they see opportunities in our ignorance, so don't ask the Igbo man why he's in Lagos. NOTE Why did you fight him not to go when he wanted to go?
Ten top world economy are exporters, they sell to others, not to themselves.
Don't behave like a child, Lagos is Yoruba land till tomorrow, but was developed by Nigerian common wealth.

I have noticed this lady or whatever it is. Igbo bashing is her oxygen, without it she will die

OgagaMic:
yea in as much as we have Igbo in delta, who has even been to my state will know tat we hate it when people call us Biafra., asin we feet beat person die if they call us Biafra or Delta state is Igbo, cous lesser conc. re given to them

we av many ethnic group in delta, d Urhobo, isoko, ijaw and itskeri (no go area cous dem 8 Biafra pass me) and anioma, d aniomas want Biafra bt only them alone can't decide our fate, giving room to some online Igbos calling d whole delta State Part of Biafra, we re tired of correcting dem, if dey conduct referendum 80% of SS will go against Biafra, So its nt logical and right to keep calling us Biafra wen we have made our oppinion known tat we re nt in any wat related to Igbo/Biafra..

jst hope u talk to ur people, dey need orientation or better still dey should cum to any SS city to shout Biafra weather dere head nor go fall, place like warri, ughelli, Benin city and many others...

Forgive that troll that started all these but must this be turned into an Igbo bashing thread? You can see some are already hyperventilating like rapid dogs

thorpido:
It's free in government hospitals but it's not free in private hospitals.

Really? Ok

Juzzybabe:
I had my baby in a teaching hospital,I paid 500 for the first one n I was told to come with 13k for the second. I was even surprised cuz I always tot,kids imumunization should be free.

Teaching hospital? Hmmh that 13k is suspect o! Shine your eye.

It's a known fact! Baba one chance can't control his emotions. I can't wait for May 29th.

@Op, where in Nigeria do they pay for routine vaccination. Thought it was free. You better leave immediately before they take your child, raise her, cut you off from her and fill her with hate against you. I wish you the best

akthedream:
That is true..they can't even live together without qualms..I don't know why majority of them are trouble makers..Only some of them that were born and grew up in the city reason well sometimes...I tire for them o...what pains me most is that other people regards Edo and the rest of the SS as Igbo.that thing dey pain me no be small.

Quit the hate! Edo no near Igbo at all for anything, i mean anything. So stop hyperventilating. You should know the guy that brought out your inherent bile was only trolling!

mulattoclaro:
the British invasion of the benin empire in 1897 led to the destruction of the edo empire and their civilisation.

This is too recent to have caused the devastation he pointed out. Don't you think?

UnknownT:
EKPO MMOGHU. What does that MMOGHU mean? I know it's used to refer to Akwa/cross persons.

Mmong 'not sure of the spelling' means water in Efik/Ibibio. Igbos refer them as Mmong people

It's our culture. Once you give birth, you make powder available in the sitting room for your visitors. Your mum and MIL will be sharing theirs wherever they are. It's just our way of celebrating. Thank you

Reptyle:
President Obasanjo was not ousted from office through a coup....so yes, he handed over to Yaradua.

I laugh

Reptyle:
It is not GEJ's prerogative to do a hand over. Nigeria is not his personal business to do with as he pleases. There are things for which he could be put on trial and jailed if not properly and clearly documented and handed over. The reason for setting up transition committees on both the outgoing and incoming sides of government is to ensure that there is a smooth hand over of affairs. The mandate of 2 weeks was issued to the APC's transition committee. Why is that such a big deal?

What's the position of the constitution? I repeat did Obj handover to yaradua?

Did obasanjo hand over to Yaradua? What does the constitution say in that regards. For Christ sake it's GEJ prerogative to do a hand over or not. For you to dictate terms of hand over and even giving an ultimate is unacceptable at all. All the agencies have perm secs who will furnish GMB led govt every info he needs. I blame GEJ, his gentlemanness is to a fault.

tollytexy:
Money dey ground na.. .country money wey she keep..why u no go survive am? It's still coming back madam

May God have mercy on you

omonnakoda:
Somebody is greeting yam for releasing sperm !!

Isukuato

I should never have taken you seriously in the first place. Bye

omonnakoda:
Lol! warraname!

Isu ku'ato

Lol. What do u think it means?

Agbara that's what we call it in my dialect may not be so with other igbo dialects

Radoillo:
Thank you. Thank you. I've lived in Enugu. I've lived in Anambra. I visit Imo quite frequently (I have three brothers-in-law from there). And the claim that Northern Igbo folks are more clannish than everyone else didn't ring true with me at all.

Anambras are more clannish. Fact!

eightsin:
A friend from Isuikwuato in abia state just made that statement that Isuikwuato people don't marry deltans and I'd like to find out how true.

It is not true. I have alot of people married to Edo people for that matter.
Isuikwuato people are the most liberal set of igbos

larryozomah:
Its Profile NOT page

Thanks for the correction

dechiome:
The son of d soil will transform Aba, you cn't make an omellete without breaking an egg.The problem of Aba has more to do with d Ohuhu landlords who hv converted all corners to a zoo all in d name of unplanned buildings. He must step on toes. Aba north & south voted for Oti ,their brother. Well we will know who owns d land within 4yrs.

What's the difference between you people and the yorubas of Lagos? It's always d foreigners that are the cause of your woes! Mtscheww

raumdeuter:
If only people around him knew he would lead 3million of his people to death. They would have sold him into slavery as a child.

You can NEVER be half the man Ojukwu was. God bless his soul