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caseless: nkita okigwe...ezi obolo afor.

hia, where did this one come out from?
i thought you would have been healed from your mental illness by now

otil1: What I will not do is to compare worse to bad and then reach a conclusion that bad is good.

I've explained my position: that a 16iyear old is old enough to say I want indomie and not ogi.

We've had 16 about of uninterrupted democracy. Chime's performance is far from what can be called "good" and as a benchmark for next administration.

Comparing him with Chimaroke is Shere mischief and a cheap way to continue to wallow in self-deceit that a duly elected governor of Enugu State Nigeria ended 8years as Mayor of Enugu city.

Chimaroke clearly had his shortcomings. He also operated in a time capsule, inheriting the mess created by the military junta of that era. So let it be there.

because going there will open worse issues, like Chime inherited a better system of mgt. And should have done better. Plus budgetary allocation bigger today than then.

Chime's performance is making Chima look good despite the many shortcomings
Btw: GS101

Criminal | Define Criminal at Dictionary.com
criminal (ˈkrɪmɪn ə l) —n: 1. a person charged with and convicted of crime

they asked me not to go to unverifiable facts but he's quick to label him a criminal

let him keep living in self denial. As he is the only one who asks for proof of chimaroke's development, i would not bother to oblidge him

Evergreen123: But u agree with me the criminal performed better than ur saint in the area of education or was that not u asked?

Crime was on the loose in all parts of nigeria pre-2010 times spanning from lagos to Calabar, Enugu wasnt an exception.
The criminal milked the state dry and set up investments in Enugu state, tell me where sullivan is investing his own loot.
U too, tell me what ur saint achieved with the federal allocations and igr coming to Enugu for 8 years, sector by sector.
I had said this earlier at the Enugu thread but its obvious no be only me waka come this time.

Any person who has lived in Enugu since the time of Jim Nwobodo that wants to argue on what Chimaroke did, either has a myopic memory or blatantly wants to make arguments. And that, i would not entertain

He can do his research if he really wants to know

spyder880: Welcome Oga, I know you have some very valid points, but my stand is that the man did enough to merit a good appraisal. Some states in Nigeria don't even know their left from their right.

quite agree

dhtml: You are on point bro, I have always found the idea of one being superior amusing and do not wish to waste my time arguing about pointless issues like this.
@op, if you can use JAVA to solve all your problems, then please go ahead, but dont try to force everyone to share your views.

I think the OP did not really intend to do a who's-better-than-who debate.
I think it was just an innocent question, seeing the trend of most web developers using more of php/python

webdezzi: read my post again, my stand remains none is superior to the other. am talking php vs java here.

asalimpo, so java is buffer overflow proof or sql injection proof right or xss proof?

my point is, if java gets the job done, use it, if php lets you go live quickly because it is cheap off the shelf, use it

the programmer's role is to write secure code.

oh, ok.

Well, i still have the opinion that development languages play a major part in securing applications.
I really don't know what you guys are gonna argue in that aspect but watching changelogs and updates would basically show you how security is being improved.

But i think you're more of referring to the developers' part of security, that is the human factor, and that is basically on another level.

I don't really understand what they wanted to argue about in terms of languages and security.

More so, webdezzi suddenly came with the which-is-superior language argument.

I just gotta wait for the thread to grow a little to understand where it's heading to

With all those amount wasted on military, why wouldn't there be economic meltdown

People are suffering and they're producing war heads

passion007: @otil1
I'm not asking anyone to apologize to me. I don't need spikesC's apology.

While you enjoy your eba, appreciate the constant electricity in the rural Enugu community that produced it, the impeccable road networks that delivered it to your doorstep. Now you enjoy your dinner, safe and secure...the Enugu State Police patrolling your street.
I'm hoping you will have some dessert...tonight's suggestion: HUMBLE PIE!
Good night otil1.
Good night spikesC.

Good night oga me. Make you still no vex eeeh
Our country has a lot of problems that hits the nerve once in a while

BTW, Sullivan has the honor of restoring security.
That is the greatest feat he has achieved, and i must not fail to commend him on that.




[size=2pt]But you can lie o. Which constant electricity? Which oku electric did we produce[/size]

eaglechild: I am inclined to be sympathetic with your cause.
Inasmuch as I have a soft spot for Sullivan, it will be suicidal to tow the path of sycophancy.

The article has a lot of half truths and outright lies, however, the present era of politicians are mostly deaf to soft criticisms constructive or not.

They only seem to respond to harsh "threats" and criticisms that threaten their future ambition.

Thus, I have to say that so far the facts are clear, then the criticisms should rain down harshly.

Sadly, most people pointing fingers tend to have alterior motives.

The facts are so clear that i wonder how he has survived for good 8 years without much media attention, as experienced by the federal government.
But then, most people in Enugu central do not travel out to other parts of the state, most Igbo people are not interested in what the government can and should do for them and the worst is that, the ones that do are more concerned on what happens in the south west even when their own homeland is raving with fire.

For the OP, i have already given him his own zobo to drink.
And from the look of things, e don belle full am



I look towards the day our government campaigns will be to woo us with intellectual debates on National Television, and not with bags of rice

otil1: Pls sir, leave matta.

If u read the last paragraph, Ugo Chime's COPEN haas now completed and launched 3 private estates namely: Bethel (2007), Goshen (2010) and now ELIM (2014). Do you know which Govt allocated COPEN those estate lands?

Ugo Chime was Chairman Housing Corporation in Chimaroke Govt. You get the pix?

No false claiming pls.

We insist, we are serious that current administration is a sham! And it can be empirically proven.

Can anybody get geniun land allocation in Enugu state today? When the hon Comish, angling for house of rep is busy collecting bribes and giving double allocations. Ask anybody in Enugu.

The last thing Ugo Chime would wish was for Enugu Govt to near his project cos dey hate him with passion out of sheer envy.

In Goshen Estate, he had to construct a road across a cliff beside cattle market just to access his estate land, all by himself, no help. From ndi govt dat long declared him persona no grata.

Leaf matta o. We get packs of facts just waiting for the right time.

Seun ones said that Nigerian's do not like constructive criticism and truthful statements. It is either you are for them or you're against them.

spyder880: I wish I could continue this exchange with you, but the way you lace your points with insults is not what I can descend into. I ignored your reply to me up there. Have a nice day.

Oga, i don't believe i insulted you anywhere. Infact you were the only one who had a normal convo with me.
But if you believe you were let down of any kind, i am sorry.

passion007: That's exactly why I ignored him also.
The exchange has become childish, with great disdain for truth.
Meanwhile, Enugu still repping on the FP:
https://www.nairaland.com/1809154/president-jonathan-commissions-324-housing

lol, i insulted you too. Like seriously?
Even if i did, you defo deserved it.

I gave you my points and all you could do was call me a southwesterner, a tribalist, etc. etc. just cos i countered you from all angles.


Yes, i came back on peeps here.
And all those i did were premeditated and those who actually insulted me, thinking they were talking to their fellow tribalists.

If you are a reguler poster fighter in the Nairaland politics section, and i came too hard on you.
I am not sorry, it was premeditated

Ya'll killing the south east people you think you're defending
Ya'll killing the supposed matured debate that should be happening here
Ya'll killing Nigeria as a whole

I always visit this section without commenting. But today, i got my chance to tell ya'll the truth.
And am happy i did

For development and progress to occur in Nigeria, it has to start from the grass root level
Stop comparing yourselves to the south west.
If you must compare, use Europe. That way, you strive for the betterment of your people and a high standard of living

Not the mediocre we see here

Unemadu: Now that u have agreed that Sullivan gave free education till jss3 level why not tell us what the previous administration did in that regard or forever remain a lair.

Demenu!!!!

Jeez, is it that you don't understand English or what. Free education has been in Enugu since the previous administration, being when i could remember oooo

rutchiekens: I was learning C++ first but I realised I can't just start selling C++ codes or software. So I decided to learn php and javascript.

Then I realised again that I need to know how to create software then I started C++ but naija companies prefer windows so that's how C# came up.

But I'm concentrating on C++ QT since It can run on all OS.

lol, na so e dey be for all of us oooo

I started with VB.NET, though i finished it.
But it seemed so irrelevant in this part of the world so i moved to web.

Na so projects come dey full for table ooo, na so e con dey hard to learn another language oo

Unemadu: i dey enugu for my village i know public schools are tuition free. i have relatives here going to such schools. the one guy i gave small school money attends a private school.

They verified that its tuition free in public schools here.

stop these lies

Who said education is not free in Enugu. But for you to say that Sullivan pioneered it is the greatest form of deception
And like i said, them still get small small fee they pay. ah ah, no be 9ja government again?

mej67: See what I found, from comments section of the original writeup. So it's not me alone eh (or me and SpikesC man, u get stamina )

AMOBI Reply
July 11, 2014 at 10:06 am
The problem of our people is their inability to differentiate good and bad governance.The bitter truth is that they have not experienced good governance. Unemployement is highest when compared to other states, Only about 10% of Enugu residents enjoy pipe borne water. The water problem has being on for more than 40 years. Rent is highest in Enugu, housing stock is very low,fraudsters have taken over real estate and land acquisition business in Enugu. The state owned ETV runs only for a few hours a day, reception the poorest I have ever experienced, denying families who cannot afford to pay for cable access to information. POWER supply in Enugu is the worst anybody can think of. Students compete with the rest of the residents of Coal City, Enugu for accommodation. The facilities at these institutions an eyesore.The governor was ill adviced to demolish the old secreteriate buildings,these are monuments that harbor the history of Eastern Region. The parks in Enugu are either converted to beer parlours or shopping malls.Food is costly in Enugu, meat is out of the reach of poor, still nobody cares. Governace is about the people .

Gbamest!!!!

The part in bold are all lies

Rent in Enugu is even cheaper than in Onitsha not to talk of in Lagos, Abuja and most bigger cities.
There's enough house for Enugu people because we don't have much population.

Food is not costly in Enugu, chai people can lie ooo
Meat is also everywhere and as cheap as fck.

Wetin sullivan do una eeeh.
Una go also blame our Sullivan for the increase in the average price of prostitutes

rutchiekens: I'm a self taught C++, C#, php and javascript programmer. But I focus more on php and javascript(jquery) cos that's what puts food on the table but my C++ and C# knowledge is still beginner.

I'm currently learning Erlang for beginner purposes.

That's good. Now the question is, which one did you learn first?

I have been trying to get into C++, but because web development puts food on my table as well, i haven't been able to.

Though, i don't intend learning any other language until it becomes necessary


BTW, you need to up your interest in the technology world.
I think you should subscribe to all these weeklies and technology blogs. Trust me, it will help you a lot

This is what i call blogging. You gave complete information, and then posted your link.

For that, i'll give you a few page views


BTW, your website is fine

Unemadu: I just don't rant i deal with verifiable facts. Enugu students performance improved during Chime's administration yes or no.

Chime introduced free education till jss3 yes or No?

all u people want is shinning new classrooms when u are not akwaibom.

Results are there for all to see not u people's anti progress rants

Dejenu!!!

This is how we catch them
Are you talking about this article filled with lies
http://247ureports.com/?p=27165

We know them when they speak. From the previous administration, most public schools has been tagged as free education whilst they pay small amounts for exams, books and a few other irrelevant things. And till date, that is how it is

Pls ooo, people should help me and go through that article to see how government officials peddle lies on National scale


Coming to performance. Is it that you're really in this to score cheap points or you don't know that the country's educational sector, as a whole, is a total mess.
Have you made a state-wide research, just in Enugu, on how the students, lecturers and the whole schools are faring.
The level of blatant illiteracy, depression and literal oppression the students go through. Or that, simply, there is no teaching going on in the public schools?

Oga, infact, you don't want to go to Education with me. Biko, find another sector and argue

otil1: Bros, na run u day so.
To be totally frank, its very difficult to defend poor performance. I'd hate to be in your shoes bro.

My advice is, don't attempt to come a forum like this and throw wool over peoples eyes. The world is too interconnected now for that. When we delve into who's behind the contracts for roads, handrails, road marking and street lighting, the only things happening in your Enugu city, you know that we know what's gwan.

When you go there, they'll say it's propaganda. So i better stick to ones i can proof for now

rutchiekens: Facebook still uses php

www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_languages_used_in_most_popular_websites

I said its easy to combine languages cos the Backend of sites like that are written in more than one language.

Errrm, you need to get updated oo

Facebook has moved from that PHP you know

Have you heard of these terms: Hack, HHVM, HipHop

No be today facebook started switching ooo

curiobling: thanks. What about the AB hence VI for VIctoria Island so AB for what? cant decode it yet

Application Bla bla

I wonder what you gon' do with it

Evergreen123: Ngwanu, break it down, how was the 90 million spent?
Considering he didn't fund whatever you think he did.
Yes?

He better be saving the dough like his anambra counterpart did.

Na billion oooooo

He's using it to fund the NHS in the UK

asalimpo: Talkg of security ,java set so many industry standards in security. Java sacrifced speed for security. The jvm is an engineerg marvel and model of techncal excellence.

@spikeC
an experienced java dev wud feel frustrated usg php. Java is simply faster thn php. Theyre java framewrks for web work too.
Naija has standardzed on php,but php isnt technically superior to other web technologies so y no usage of d alternatves?
Even c++ is used for web dev! Facebook translated a huge amount of php code to c++ for performance and economy reasons! The decision would save fb thousands of servers , and reduce heat emission by a signifcant amount.so Theres benefit to using d better technology. Though php may b faster to code in.

No programming technology comes close to Java in terms of security, so lets just leave that one aside.

I have already listed the reasons why most Nigerian based developers prefer php/python over java.

Learning curve too
And advise from people.
When a beginner seeks for the first programming language to learn, people will tell them to go learn the easy ones.

I would love to learn C++, but time is not on my side right now.

Unemadu: So many children on this thread.

u are asking your father to send you to uk for studies but u didn't ask if he can afford it.

pls all these children tell us what u can achieve with 90 billion budget if u were to be governor

90 Billion per year for 8 years not including Internal Generated Revenue
I think your own father would never send you to UK for studies because you evidently lack intellect and knows nothing about the value of money

Here's the link to the Enugu 2014 initital budget.
http://www.enugustate.gov.ng/newspage.php?ref=1386693690


This includes Works and Infrastructure, Agriculture, Education, Rural Development, Health, Legislature/Judiciary and ofcourse Others

So, tell me Mister, has he failed woefully or not

curiobling: members of the honourable house, if IKAC/blabla/ stands for Ikeja Application Centre then what VIAB/blabla/ stands for?

Victoria Island

christejames: In as much as Sullivan still have other projects to achieve that would bring succour to the masses, he has performed far better than his counterparts both past and present. We should learn to give credit when it is deserved. If he chooses not to even beautify enugu metropolis (like most Nigerian politicians would have done), no one would incarcerate him, the highest they can do is to chase him with EFCC (which would eventually die down after few months). We are commending him for the little that we have seen cause corruption in Nigeria is just gettin worse.

Chai. Na wa oooooooo