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Jodera:
Who doesn't know this before?

Like you didn't know??

PL introduces minor changes like how much contact, how many subs or how refs are treated etc but not core football rules like offside or penalty.

Jodera:
Hian, what you uploaded is fifa rules na.

FIFA rules is very very different from EPL rules(or league rules).

And all these while I was thinking you were even talking about new EPL rules

Are PL rules done outside FIFA?

BlueRayDick:
Here

See modifications to previous post

BlueRayDick:
This link u posted did not confirm the change in as u painted it has been effected . It only talks about Arsene Wenger’s suggestion which FIFA are considering “giving a trial” .

When this trial will be carried out was not mentioned ,if it has already been carried out and approval granted was also not mentioned .

I did a personal search myself and confirm the only change to the offside rule this season has nothing to do with what u’ve described in ur posts . The only change to the offside rule is that if a ball touches let’s say Dalot before Touching Saka while in an offside position, Saka would still be adjudged offside.

I think the new rule u are quoting in ur posts is ur own imagination o

I have modified the post with screenshot. Yours is a more recent change basically for PL. Mine is a FIFA rule. In fact they want to improve on it to favour the attacking player

Jodera:
That is the official and original var/EPL screenshot. It's everywhere

Big evidence is right in front of you but you're just holding onto your opinion.

Provide valid links or screenshot that validates this your rule you said except you're making it up

https://leadership.ng/fifa-to-test-new-changes-to-offside-rules/

Cc Blueraydick

Pls why can't I upload images. The cloudflare blocks it.

Passing judgement in favour of TInubu is not the issue. The issue is explaining the judgement.

Good a thing it would be televised live so that the whole world would see it.

Roland17:
You are absolutely right about Vieira’s defensive frailties. The times we have introduced him, we were desperately in search of a goal and stayed aggressive attacking so he did not need to defend.

I liked what I saw with Rice yesterday, otherwise, I would have suggested pushing him to the LM while Partey sits deep but Partey is injured. I think the best bet would be to give ESR a chance because Havertz isn’t cutting it for us.

Our next game is against Everton. They play a 5 man midfield, if you include A. Dacoure who now plays the 10 position and they are all physical players. Remember, we lost same fixture by 1-0 last season and I lost it.

If we will use Vieira then whoever is playing LFB should not overlap. Vieira will now have to do the off the ball run to allow Martinelli to cut in or receive the ball and cross in.

In all I'd like to see ESR in that role and he has always been my preferred choice as he is right footed.

Our formation has a way of pinning the opponent down in their own half. I five man midfiield will either dominate us or expose their defense.

Jodera:
Spy360, look at this screenshot again.
If it's the leg, then he's definitely onside.

I don't know about that screenshot as the original picture. But offside rules now only map those body parts that can be used make contact with the ball. That is head and leg. The VAR check was Gabriel's head Vs Gernacho's leg.

Jodera:
Did you look at that picture well?

Garnacho's leg was certainly onside, it was his body abi armpit that they claimed was off.

Also, it was Gabriel's head that was used in measuring the offside. Just try and look at the pic well and the offside marker of the respective players

I don't know of the picture, what VAR used was Gabriel's head and Gernacho's leg. Gernacho's hands were way off.

iamoyindamola:
If this was correct then man u goal against city shouldn't have stood last season
I am sure the offside rules wasn't touched this season

The rule was touched.

daveP:
Gabriel is a workaholic. That guy does CB and LB to make Zinny flourish. Glad to have such a baller. Man u fans are wailing that his wrestling challenge on hoodlum was supposed to be a pk.

Yes. His only challenge is going forward. That is why as long as we invert midfielders or play a back three he won't play if Zinny is not available.

Onkoolos:
God punish offside rules. Why does u guys like using ojoro. Rasmond hojlund was foul, var didnt see that . It shall never be well with var and antony taylor

You need tissue, handkerchief or bucket?

As VAR did not favour you today you want thunder to fire them.

How did you see the midfield combo of Casemiro, Erickson and Bruno compared to other top teams like Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool?

Roland17:
Transitioning new players into a team, especially one that is successful is hard. At this point, starting him again will be pitching him against the fans who are now coming at him and Arteta during games. He needs a slow transition at this point. He can watch from the bench and transition slowly into the team as a sub. Arsenal fans are on the edge right now because of how last season ended and you can see it from their response when we are playing poorly.

Vieira is showing traits of why we got him. Nothings beats decisiveness on the ball and that is what Vieira seems to have learned. I agree with you that ESR is a better option but coaches pick players who are in form. If you notice, Trossard wasn’t even an option yesterday. Vieira has come on this season and produced a goal, PK and assist with decisive actions immediately he receives the ball. I want to ESR but with Vieira’s form, it would be tough, especially if your MCM continues to start Havertz.

That left side is the most important side of the pitch when we start Zinny because that is where we are inverting from. Zinny did one hell of a job as a CM and Gabu was excellent in covering and anticipating plays. Martinelli ran his socks off yesterday and even though I did not see the incisiveness in the final third, he won important corner kicks and throwing. However, he needs to help us more when we are without the ball.

My fear in using Vieira in that LAM position is his defensive ability due to his frail nature. If defending is not a problem, Vieira is very potent going forward and he has his tail up in confidence.

If I want a gidigbo striker I would not need to pay 70m. Unless I want fans to believe Hunjlund means Haaland in Igbo.

iamoyindamola:
Maybe what he's saying every part of the body is now accountable for offside

That was before, now it's the part of the body that can touch the ball.

Jodera:
I didn't see this in the new offside rule tho.

And aside that, the screenshot shared by Oba.Igwe, they used his head to measure it.

The rules changed. Now a player can point to a space in front of him and will not be offside, as long as his legs are on.

How many of us noticed that Rice is not effective playing on the right side of CM? Zinchenko had to move accross to the left whenever he had to invert.

But this unleashed the beast in Rice and he too was able to cover whenever he had to.

Gabriel will play when Zinny is available

Roland17:
On one hand I can understand why he is doing this, considering Havertz is a new signing that is struggling. However, on the other hand, he is hypocritical, because he did not hesitate to throw Peperempe under the bus during press conferences.

Once again, this is Arteta being stubborn about something that is obviously not working because it is his signing and his ego. Forcing Havertz on the team and disrupting our tactics and chances of winning games is pitching Havertz against the fans which will do more damage to his confidence.

If you ask me, I suggest that Havertz be re-integrated slowly into the team from the bench. This team plays high intensity with fluid movement going forward and Havertz is doing the opposite right now.

I totally agree. The boy lacks confidence at all. Arteta would only damage him more by starting him in games. He needs to drop him for a game or two and allow him integrate slowly. Too bad we are losing a player of his quality due to poor handling.

That said, we should not think of Vieira as the next option because he is not good defending in the middle. The only other option we have now is ESR.

Roland17:
Excellent sense of positional awareness by Gabu saved that situation, otherwise Gbanacho was clear because it happened so fast.

Exactly 💯

ObaIgwe1:
And from this angle one can see how obvious the offside is and the brilliant effort of Gabu causing it.

Exactly. People are looking at the head instead of the knee.

That was brilliant thinking by Gabu

Onkoolos:
U guys use Ojoro!!! Gernacho goal wasn't offside. We will meet at Old Trafford. Enjoy your winning while it last. By nextweek u are gonna return to your default mode. It shall never be well with var and antony taylor

Garnacho was off. You are arguing because you are not intune with the new offside rule that was introduced just before season started.

Now offside is decided by the legs and not the entire body. That is why Gabriel slant position is considered a genius act.

Again, that Kai penalty should have stood because there was a second clip on his knee that the camera didn't pick and Taylor was too hasty to cancel his initial decision.

iamoyindamola:
Na tem/otem we they call na this oloriburuku they cry
O ma ke ku ni asiwerey
I have some hours to burn before our match olofo

So e they pain you😂😂 but you sabi call and rubbish other religions oloribu

Oya come make we dey go house e don do. This one way you balance here they throw shots. Nor be say you go dey here no look when Arteta go sneak in Havertz name for starting line up. Come make we dey go house.

A001:
All humans, whether religious or not, have norms, languages, practices, arts, music they listen to. All these is what constitute a culture.

Even to use your dictionary to check what's called "norm" and "culture" is difficult.

Lols.

I no get time for that terrorist

Why don't you get us a dictionary oga. Listen you are just exposing your stupidity by engaging in this. Get a dictionary and explain your pointless point. An individual's personal life cannot constitute culture or its norms if that's the way you are going. And by the way, the issues that surround belief systems are not regarded as norms because they involve social institutions. There can be religious norms but religion itself is not a norm.

A001:
Use your dictionary and stop embarrassing yourself. Check the meaning of "norm" and "culture" and read that post you quoted again. Your problem is poor quality of education.

I never thought I'd be explaining to a so-called graduate what "norm" and "culture" mean. You think only religious people have norms?
Which kind of dull reasoning is this?

You think by tagging me an illiterate you have won an argument? When this illiterate guy has just blown your head open.

You moved from culture to norms. Rubbish.

Atheism is neither a cultural practice nor a cultural norm in Africa. Any individual can hallucinate about the nonexistence of God that does not make it a cultural practice.

Yoruba women who wear trousers does not make it Yoruba culture. Neither is it anything near cultural norms.

iamoyindamola:
E too they fvck na why him get groin injury 😂😂
I think this will be his last season with us..otoge

We have already signed Jorginho and Rice in anticipation of his injury, so no problems.

mrmayoh:
Some supporters of Peter Obi alleged that Bola Tinubu did not attend Chicago State University. However, the university has denied these allegations. Any claims of certificate forgery against Tinubu are unfounded.

Can you please tell us how Peter Obi won the election?

Are you OK? Because the person alleging is Atiku not Peter Obi. But Obidients live rent free in your head.

A001:
Then you don't know what's called culture. For freethinkers, the norm is to approach issues or beliefs about God using either the agnostic, atheistic, or humanistic perspective, or a combination of some of these three positions and related ones.

Norm is an element of culture. You're discussing a topic you don't even have basic knowledge of. First you didn't know religion is under the umbrella term of culture, and now, you don't know norm is also under culture.

If a person visits Nairaland daily and does so for a considerable period of time in his life, that has become an aspect of his culture.

What's this nonsense you typed?

This is way below my expectations. If you fail an argument, say so or just run away instead of disgracing yourself with rubbish information.

A001:
You're always funny with your takes on various issues. You think all these African atheists you see on Nairaland and other online platforms today are the first sets of atheists on this continent? Lols

Na wa o. This discussion with you sef is a waste of time

😁😁😁

A001:
So dull. If you say atheism isn't present in the African culture, that means theism isn't there as well.

The moment a person says he believes in a god or deity (theism) and another person doesn't accept or entertain that belief (atheism), atheism has started.

We don't call such people atheists in Africa as English isn't part of African languages.

In Yoruba, they're described as 'poki' or 'enitionilorun'. Historically, atheism isn't even also traditional to the English culture. The first atheists originated from ancient Egypt, ancient Greece, and Old Rome.

Ancient Egypt is the origin of civilization, and many philosophical ideas of the West had its roots from there.

In any society, the most intelligent people are the freethinkers — the agnostics, atheists, and humanists, and if you can't find a word for any of those in your culture, it shows they're very rare in your culture because many of them have been historically killed in Africa.

It means that culture hasn't had deep intellectual evolution in its history.

You'll find most world's top scientists are either agnostics or atheists.

The bolded is not culture.

Culture is the way of life of a people. Emphasis on people.

I am not talking about one random dude hallucinating about the nonexistence of God. I am talking about an African people who actually believe and whose lives are influenced by not believing in the existence of any God anywhere.

If you want to prove to me that atheism has a place in African culture then you have to mention any particular people any where in Africa that has that belief system and are influenced by it in their way of life.

For example we know of agnosticism in ancient Greece. Tell us where in Africa is atheism adopted by a people.

By the way the most intelligent people aren't always atheists. This is because ancient science and education was intertwined with religion. Even in Africa and other ancient civilizatios, our local medical practitioners were priest etc. But that's another topic.

Trevor012:
Alaye they have always been atheist in Africa. Facts don't care if you accept or not.

Posting it on NL doesn't make it fact either.

A001:
Did atheism originate from the English culture? We call our native culture and traditions "Isese" or "Asa ati Ise" in Yoruba language.

Igbo people also have their own equivalent of Isese, which you call Igbo culture. There's a term for it in Igbo language.

Every people around the world has their own equivalent of Isese in their own area. In Arabia, Islam is an element of their own Isese or native cultures and traditions.

Christianity is an aspect of the Isese or the native culture and traditions of Israelites.

These are basic facts a typical African should know.

Tell us where atheism started.

In Igbo, culture is called Omenala.

Trevor012:
He is simply telling you even as an atheist he appreciates African culture and wants to see them promoted. There's atheism in every culture.

The bolded is not acceptable by me. African culture does not permit a void in the divine. Let's not bring up fake ideas just to push our narratives. I want to learn, you will have to prove that.

Appreciating a culture and defending it are two different issues. Religion is an aspect of African culture, and so defending it means acceptance. How can you promote what you don't believe in? Makes no sense.

I also appreciate African culture and I am not atheist. I appreciate but won't promote it or even defend it.