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Jodera:
From what I understand with Spy, using the word "clinicality or clinical" is an insult to top players

Let's say for example, if Haaland starts missing big chances in his last 4 matches and you say something like "Haaland has not been clinical of late, he needs to step up", Spy would see you as someone insulting Haaland as one shouldn't use clinical and Haaland together.


That's why he would ask you
Is Nketiah more clinical than GJ?, then still turn around to ask you again,
Does GJ miss more chances compared to Nketiah?


And he'll still believe he asked you two different questions

mostob:
In an argument, if more than three people are opposing you, something must be wrong with your notion. Your notion may not totally be wrong but there is a defect.

mostob:
The bolded is exactly what you should have said since. Clinicality is why our strikers are not scoring, not because of stay in the box nonsense.

Donjazet2:
Walahi, this nairaland election poll on the frontpage dey funny me.

Just look at the gap.

And this poll is very symbolic because funny enough nairaland polls have actually served as a good precursor for who wins the presidential elections.

Buhari won both the 2015 and 2019 polls when they also ran these polls then.

Now Obi is running away with it.
Not even the APC troll farm can catch up with this.

https://www.nairaland.com/7579371/2023-nairaland-latest-poll-atiku

Akinbahm:
Sp.y is very good at twisting words and you’d lost completely during the argument.

We were all here when he said Balogun would break to into the squad before last year... baba change subject matter.

Now Jesus is losing chances because he’s not inside box to bury those chances (composure)... Nketia he used as a case study who’s more compose inside box is losing chances and baba is here twisting issues again.

What I could depict from their argument is Ego is strongly online.

mostob:
Spy, your questions here are traps. You have totally deviated from the main argument.
You claimed Jesus doesn't score much because he doesn't stay inside the box. By the time he arrive in the box, he'll lack composure to finish chances. You now referenced Nketiah being a poacher who usually stays inside the box, probably why he do score more than Jesus.

Jodera and I disagreed that Jesus is not scoring much because he is not clinical enough. Remember we brought stats.

Now, Nketiah has been missing chances lately and has not scored in the last 4 games. Jodera asked you why Nketiah is not scoring since he do stay inside the box and so should finish chances comfortably because HE HAS COMPOSURE.

This matter no hard reach like this na

mostob:
Ahswear...I don lost for this argument o
una just dey turn everything like Amala Polaris

Jodera:
Predictions happened in other ways??

You should be an entertainer Spy

Jodera:
Lol... This one na you just you chasing clout.

You that predicted Nketiah will bench Jesus and that Nketiah would score more goals... You don dey see say E no go work, so you don twist am to Jesus would score more than Nketiah
You that predicted Balogun will see first team in arsenal, e no work, so you twist it as him having a breakout season

You can twist it all you want, but anyone who followed our conversation knew that you never really loved Jesus style of play.

Composure no work again

Jodera:
imagine, you're counting 9 goals for Nketiah?
Goals against Zurich and kuvuki in Europa League group stages included?
Goals against inferior opponents?

Then you claim to start counting post world cup?

If you want to count, count league goals where he's meeting Men, not against inferior opponents that even Marquinhos scored and shone against

Spy360:
This is PL na

GJ
Starts 14 , Goals 5, G/A 0.36

EN
Starts 9 , Goals 4, G/A 0.44

Is Nketiah more clinical than Gabriel Jesus?

Answer o.

Jodera:
There's big difference between being a better finisher and being a better striker. Finishing is all about clinicality(converting your chances) while being a striker is much deeper than that.

You claimed for Jesus to finish chances, he needs composure thus he must stop all what he's doing to make the team click.

So I ask, Why is Nketiah with all his composure missing chances? No turn amala!!

mostob:
At this rate, you need to let us know if you're catching cruise.

iamoyindamola:
So jesus don't have assists that you cropped away but it's visible for nketiah
btw jesus have 14 apps 5goals and 4 assists
nketiah 21 app 4 goals and no assist
how is nketiah clinical

Jodera:
I have answered you. Nketiah have scored goals this season more than Jesus.... Not because of any composure but because he converts his chances more. All Jesus needs to do is to do make it simple in his scoring like Nketiah but you claimed otherwise, that all he needs is composure because of his running around, interplay and pressing makes him lacks that


Now Nketiah is not running around, staying in the box And have all the composure in the world like you claimed, why is he missing the big chances against Everton, Man city (twice) and Aston Villa?

Jodera:
How many competitions did Gj start aside Pl.

Apples to oranges.

Comparing Europa group stage and carabao competition to league

Jodera:
He's not clinical than GJ yet you claimed if given the same opportunity, he'll score more than GJ?

You see how you're confusing yourself?

iamoyindamola:
Oya let's compare the number of appearances also G/A

Jodera:
You told us that if he's stationed in the box and stop his running around, he'll have composure to score goals.

Now Nketiah is stationed mostly in the box and hardly runs around like you advised, so he ought to have more composure.

Tell us why he's missing big chances against Everton, Man city (twice) and Aston Villa, with all his whole composure?

Jodera:
Nketiah has more goals as a starter with 4 league goals against Jesus 5 league goals?

🤔🤔😱😱😱

Jodera:
My goodness!!! You sabi dig pass me sef.😂😂😂😂

Na this last two i been look for sef. Thank you very much. 👍👍👍🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Jodera:
Spy, you wan set me up shey??

...
So my Question is simple: If with all the whole composure and advise Nketiah is doing and is still missing chances. So tell me, what is the cause of Nketiah's misses?

mostob:
Lol Spy.... there's a reason I quoted the posts above again. According to you, Gabriel Jesus run around too much and by the time he arrived inside the box, he will not have the required composure to score. You didn't bring anything relating to clinicality to your argument.

It was Jodera that brought the number of shots taken, big chances missed and other stats to show you that Jesus was just not clinical enough and not that he lacks composure.

iamoyindamola:
Why should I follow argument way go drag till eternity
I no even know wetin Una they argue about 🤣🤣🤣
I am only interested in shooting the 2 of you

mostob:
I dey follow am boss na why I go dig out past talks.

The question Jodera asked is why has Nketiah not scored in the last 4 games or so despite the fact that he do stay inside the box according to you?

Remember we sighted clinicality as the sole reason why Jesus was not scoring but you didn't agree.

iamoyindamola:
Na true them no they read their epistles
Until one person agree them no go stop the argument na why I need your gun

Roland17:
The small one wen I do with Jodera yesterday give me headache. I Dey choose my epistle battle these days.

Their 2 no dey even read their epistles before they respond to each other, otherwise, they should have seen that their positions are quite close.. na just semantics/ word interpretation dey confuse them.

Ibime:
Another angle. What I am yet to see discussed in all permutations is the extent to which rigging still has an impact on elections.

In other words, by how much percentage can a sitting Governor influence the outcome of elections in his state.

Say in the last election, they said no voting except by PVC card reader, then card reader started breaking down in remote locations all round the country and INEC allowed them to use paper ballot and write result, and some thugs just intimidate some polling booth, pay all agents and INEC staff on ground and write result. To what extent can Governors still "deliver" in modern elections using these means? If this is still significant, then LP has no hope at all.

Jodera:
Lol .. You can claim you like his style of play but anyone who followed our conversation then know that you don't really do. You that claimed Jesus plays exactly like Laca and predicted that Nketiah might bench him?

Just dey play

khalling2008:
I just don't understand Peter obi at all, is he campaigning for the office of Nigeria's president or the office of the president of Biafra?
Only you go to Igbo dominant area in Alaba, Computer village, Ajegunle, etc

Only you go to Christian dominate areas in Nigeria?

Have ever seen Atiku in the dominant area of Hausa people in Agege or Alaba rago

Have you ever seen Atiku in the dominant area of Hausa people in Abuja, Shasha in Ibadan, etc

Have you ever seen Tinubu in the dominant area of Yoruba in Kano, Zamfara, etc

Have you ever seen Tinubu in the dominant area of Yoruba in Abia, Anambra, etc

Have you ever seen other Muslim candidates in mosques for a campaign?

Only Peter obi go to church and go to Igbo dominant area for the campaign. Is he going to contest for the president of a Christin country or a Biafra country?

Jodera:
So you now agree that his style of play make our other attackers tick and that it leads to more chance creation yet you've always opposed Jesus from being a creator and his work ethic citing that he should stick to his primary duties shebi?

The way you don dey talk now, someone would think you were never against Jesus style of play from beginning.

Continuuuu!!