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Pics from Langebaanweg. Oryx was returning from this when it crashed (apparently it hit newly erected wires).

Pics from numerous owners at saairforce.co.za

SANDF Oryx has crashed in the Western Cape, 8 injuries.

Repost.

SF Starter Pack

andrewza:
SA helicopters fly at night but not under the UN. Though i have heard of them doing so in DRC.

Why? Why? Whhhy?

EO-SAT1 (earth observation) satellite under development by South African National Space Agency.

Frumentum:
Which one do you want, Milan or Ingwe IPLS?
Just kidding...don't want to get into trouble again. They'll allow the configuration to be exhibited at some point; look how long it took them before the public could see the Scorpion Mortar System.

Lol...I asked because I knew its a sensitive topic. So come 2019-2020, this thread can expect hot new pics.

Frumentum:
Depends on the configuration: as a troop-carrier 8 max with 360 degree situational awareness/coverage: driver, gunner and vehicle commander in front; 2 in the middle facing outwards; 3 at the rear.

3 when it's used as a mortar/mrls/atgm platform .

Pics or it didn't happen

2 Squadron - SA Airforce

More...

South African Special Forces - mixture of operators and those undergoing selection

gees9:
Not sure if this is a repost, but how many operators can you fit in a Hornet?? This was escort duty in Libya, Brother Leaders last days

Nice pic. I guess their threat assessment was high....with RPG's even. Looks like 8-9 men per Hornet

A Darter has scored a hit (non destructive) against Skua target drone during final qualification tests. Last few weeks of a mammoth design & development program, then delivery to SAAF and others.

lionel4power:
there is no known confirmed kill for S-300 so far. Even Russia doesnt brag about its efficacy. The media has overhyped the S-300.

There's also no known F-22 kills. And a bazillion other systems. So that's not a good measure.

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SAS Amatola

Frumentum:
An SAAF Turbo Dak spotted at Roland Garros Airport on La Reunion for the biennial Exercise Oxide 2017 with the French.

I always marvel how they keep these things flying.

Besides witchcraft, I don't know how the SAAF keeps them flying.

Odunayaw:
Why didn't they place the cameras under the fuselage instead of the wings. But the specs are very impressive. SANDF plans to order?

When pointing the sensors forward (camera, IR etc) the spinning propeller would cause distortion if placed under the fuselage. That's why most drones use pusher/rear propellers (okay well that's one of the main reasons).

No orders from SANDF. SANDF ordered a couple Seeker 400's. If SAAF place an order, will most likely come from Denel.

Too bad about these guys. Had already tested a small scale engine I believe and were busy with component design. Guess the money just ran out, and SA government wasn't exactly supporting either.


CHEETAH-1 CSLV VEHICLE PROFILE

SUMMARY
Small class, two stage, expendable launch vehicle designed to provide commercial
satellite launch services to inclined, polar and sun-synchronous low Earth orbits.

ORIGIN & STATUS
Republic of South Africa, Development by MARCOM Aeronautics & Space (Pty)
Limited

ESTIMATED LAUNCH PRICE
Cheetah-1 US$ 6-8 million

PERFORMANCE SUMMARY
200 km (108 nmi), 34 deg 1000 kg (2205 lbm)
200 km (108 nmi), 90 deg 650 kg (1433 lbm)
Space Station Orbit 407 km (220 nmi), 51.6 deg 810 kg (1786 lbm)
Sun-Synchronous Orbit: 800 km (432 nmi), 98.6 deg 439 kg (968 lbm)
Available Inclinations: 34 – 117 deg

Ultimate Unmanned (SA Company) Viper 1000C UAV.

"Endurance of the aircraft is 28 hours with external and internal extended endurance tanks. Maximum altitude is 25 000 feet. The 18 metre long, 1 100 kg aircraft has a cruise speed of 113 knots and is powered by a turbocharged Rotax 914 engine delivering 113 hp.

Flight is fully autonomous with automatic takeoff and landing and point to point waypoint navigation. Multiple payload options include high definition cameras, forward looking infrared systems and night vision systems. Two wing mounted hardpoints can carry up to 80 kg of payload, although total payload is up to 350 kg."

ActivateKruger:
You missed the part where I said "I know"... Now please move along.

K. You'll keep us up to date with the beauty pageant news, you seem to be following it quite intently.

I'm sure this is my 5th repost over the years. But this video still gets me. SA Special Forces.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQodL5gzmY8

ActivateKruger:
I know dude, I'm so avoiding Augububu and those sad stories of Zuma selling Denel to the Arabs. So I just decided to enter holiday mode earlier, December 15 is far...

Just stop. People aren't as interested in South Africa's non military affairs as you might think. It is derailing the thread.

SF

jakeporeshenko:
Personally do you guys approve of this ?

South Africa and Iran have had very close relations over the years. We were one of a handful of countries to vote against their sanctions. I believe we even stopped buying crude oil from them at the very last possible moment. Hence if no one else was to go out of their way to block transactions, huge military deals are in the pipeline between SA and Iran.

I personally approve of it. Our military co-operation with Israel died a long time ago, so they can go jump.

ActivateKruger:
The Jamaicans are hating on how Miss South Africa won the intergalactic federation competition of the finest female specimens. It sounds like Augububu is all over the internet

Dude...not relevant to this thread.

jakeporeshenko:
A better deal the Southies cannot turn down

Why "cannot" turn down? As stated, others have tried purchasing Denel before & we said no. Government would rather pile more money in than sell the strategic parts of Denel.

Armscor is in the process of ordering a couple hundred of these for the SANDF.

iblawi:
Everyone is talking of buying while South Africa is talking of sell. The difference is clear.

Fake story.

newafricaken254:
SAfrica's Zuma in Talks to Sell Most of Denel to Qatar, STimes

South Africa is in talks with Qatar to sell a majority stake in its arms manufacturer Denel SOC Ltd. to the Gulf country, the Sunday Times reported, citing a source it didn’t identify.

President Jacob Zuma is also seeking to sell portions of other struggling state-owned enterprises, including power utility Eskom Holdings SOC Ltd. and South African Airways SOC Ltd., the newspaper said. The Department of Public Enterprises, which would need to approve the transaction, did not immediately respond to Bloomberg’s requests for comment.

Denel was among state entities bailed out this year to prevent a call on its government-guaranteed debt. This list includes South African Airways, the South African Post Office and the South African Broadcasting Corp. which all may require further intervention, the National Treasury said in its mid-term budget report.


Qatar’s Defense Minister Khalid Bin Mohammed Al-Attiyah is believed to have discussed the proposed acquisition with Zuma during a state visit earlier this month, the newspaper said.

A spokesman for the president denied the report. “There was no discussion of the issues” during the minister’s “courtesy call,” Bongani Ngqulunga, a spokesman for the president said in a text message.

Mayihlome Tshwete, a spokesman for National Treasury, says it isn’t aware of any such discussions. He said the treasury has spoken to the Department of Public Enterprises about the matter and the department denies the talks. link https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-26/safrica-s-zuma-in-talks-to-sell-most-of-denel-to-qatar-stimes

Guarantee not going to happen. The story itself sounds fake. MBDA of Europe once wanted to purchase a majority stake in Denel Dynamics, SA government said no....citing proprietary South African technology.

Now we'll sell to Qatar? Almost laughable.

Off topic

SA Agulhas II. South Africa's arctic research and supply vessel. Owned by the Department of Environmental Affairs.

"A banana republic can only exist on the doorstep of weak countries"

Irony is that there seems to be a lot more "existing" in that neck of the woods. Please forgive us, we're not used to this type of thing

Next time we'll go in and blow things up before the General's tea gets cold.

Frumentum:
Had an un-nerving chat with a colleague on the Mid-East desk about the probability of the GCC conflict with Qatar going hot.
SA weapons & systems sold to the GCC would be used against SA corporate assets in Qatar.
And that's without factoring in the complexities resulting from Denel's active pursuit of sales to Iran - the GCC's sworn enemy.

Truly, we inhabit a mad confusing world.

PICS: Some of the SA weapons & systems sold to the GCC countries and SA corporate assets in Qatar.

Sell weapons to both sides. Let them find a nice open field and settle it once and for all.