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RealLordZeus:
Believing the below actually happened night be hard for you but just focus on the possibility and the maths

The Messenger of Allah ﷺsaid, “I was brought the Buraq, a long white beast, slightly bigger than a donkey but smaller than a mule which when trotting (ride), would place its next step as far as its eyesight could see. I mounted it until I reached al-Quds, Jerusalem. There I tied it up to the same ring used by the Prophets. Sahih Muslim 164 and Jami at Tirmidhi Book 47, Hadith 3440

The above simply means the animal can travel at the speed of light (judging by our distance to stars and how we are able to see them)
science tells us that light is the fastest traveling entity in the world. It travels at the speed of approximately 700 million miles an hour (299,792 km per second).


So think bro, think deeper

Animals cannot travel at the speed of light.

RealLordZeus:
In the 17th century, if the folks alive then were told that a missile would achieve 4000mph, I believe they will vex nack the person 2x2 for head.
550mph is even low compared to recent human feats not to talk of a super intelligence who mold out this world with such precision.
Its not too late to have faith bro, well you might be able to believe if you have a open mind coz there is enough proof of the supernatural

What are the proofs of the "supernatural"?

truespeak:
And You carry on the religion of attacking religion with a special interest on Christians in a Nutshell!

Imagine thinking that constructive criticism is equivalent to an attack. You are the ones who demonize any one/thing that is not Christian. Yea, you are pointing fingers at me when you are the one doing the attacking.

truespeak:
No wrong here, for it is seen that we Always Boast about our Best of the Best!




See cry!

Because Job prevailed over Satan, as God said He would? see Lamentation on behalf of Satan o



See "crying more than the bereaved"

Job being God's understood his loss and why it came about and his subsequent compensation and restoration, but I understand you are not crying for him but for Satan's Mighty Loss!

God Won and Satan Lost in Spite of His Over Effort!


What was that Job story trying to achieve in the first place?


Amongst other things, that Satan in spite of his Bestest Efforts Can Not pluck out God's own from His Hand!

So in short, you are saying that innocent kids lost their lives over a bet that an omniscient being knew he'd win? Okay o. Tell me how God is all kind and all loving you can cry about it.

Ehiscotch:
It's the philosophy behind your question. Are you saying God heals but he doesn't heal amputees in particular or God hasn't healed an amputee, so God doesn't heal at all?

I am saying it's a bit suspicious how most miracles that god performs are ones that cannot be verified.

Pain and sorrow, Kwa? I'm not pained, neither I'm I sorrowful. the fact that your religion cannot stand criticism and literally has to invent a word known as "blasphemy" in order to protect itself from critics, is very weird indeed.

Dliquidmetal:
love this!

Thanks

Ehiscotch:
Those weren't ordinary times, LMAO. People were civilized then. You modern people are so conceited that you think people were walking around half naked in caves and with little or no education. Most, if not all wonders of the world were made in biblical times. Great secular man were contemporaries of Jesus or existed before him, sir. As there were Legends and myths in those times that have proven false and no lasted the test of time.

God can heal amputees, infact the Bible records a time were Jesus refused to do a miracle in a certain place because of their unbelief. Herod requested a demonstration from Jesus but he didn't respond. The Jews did and he didn't.

The Lord God is Almighty, Sovereign in wisdom and understanding and you cannot put him in a box. The questions you all raise today are not new to Christianity. If only you all will sincerely open your hearts to truth.

Where did I mention that people back then were uncivilised??
Civilization is about 10k years old
You still haven't answered my question on why god heals the blind but not amputees

MaxInDHouse:
You have no EVIDENCE to prove that Adam don't know all the animals that has ever existed on this planet, so leave the argument and go straight to BENEFITS you and i can derive from what we have in our brains!

Hello, did you read my earlier statement? I said that your own Bible claims that all the animals were BROUGHT BEFORE Adam so that He could name them. Which means dinosaurs were also brought before him?
But we know that Dinosaurs went extinct long before modern humans, so the story is not adding up.
Secondly your Bible claims that evil and natural disasters became a thing after Eve ate the apple. Asteroids hitting the planet, can be called a natural disaster. But we know that it was an asteroid that eventually led to the extinction of the dinosaurs, long before modern humans. So, why is the Bible claiming that evil started after Eve (whom I'm guessing was a modern human according to the story) ate the apple?

Ehiscotch:
If you think miracles are enough to convince or convict people of the truth, you ought ordinarily to be right but the Israelites in their day broke laws of God and commandments even when they saw the red Sea parted, saw all what God did to free them from slavery, even how he killed those who broke his law. Like Paul said, there is enough evidence in nature to prove the deity and eternal power of God. You all have no excuses.

Uhm, hello aren't miracles, like God's PR. Weren't miracles the reason why Jesus had so many people following him around and listening to his teachings? I am simply asking why? Why is it that God can heal blind people but not amputees?

Why is it that the miracles that you guys claim happen in churches today, are easily faked??

Or are you trying to say that there has been a real case of a lame person, walking after getting prayers from a pastor??

Ehiscotch:
You know even bible verses can be falsely used to argue against it and questions like yours have even led Xtains to fall away or create divisions amongst themselves.

Paul, a great apostle had a disciple whom he loved and treated like a son but he had a stomach problem and he advised him to take a little wine to treat his ailment. Paul did so much miracles, how ironic that an ordinary stomach ailment was elusive.

Luke, who wrote a gospel, a fascinating gospel of the life of Christ was a physician in his day.

God created food, medicine and the brain. Besides, the Bible is about 6000 years of record and miracles recorded are about 150 or so. Miracles weren't even witnessed by every generation and yes even the Bible alludes to faked miracles.

What are you talking about? I am asking why God cannot heal amputees, since He could restore lost ears, and you are pandering about?
The earth is about 4 Billion years old.

Miracles weren't even witnessed by every generation and yes even the Bible alludes to faked miracles.

Or, it could be that these stories were told at times when superstitious beliefs like sticks turning into snakes were rampant, so it wasn't so hard to sell the story of the dead coming back to life or a pool that instantly heals you if you are dipped in while the angels were stirring it.

Greatzeus:
Why is it still a theory after all the years? What does that tell you? If it was proven,it would be a law now,like law of thermodynamics.

Boss didn't they teach you that a scientific theory is different from a hypothesis?
For example, Gravity is a theory.
A scientific theory is anything that is backed up with lots of evidence.

Now before you continue on your ignorant rant, kindly note that evolution is not linear.
Evolution never stated that humans descended from apes, it's just a misconception that I am sure people like you do not know about. What Evolution actually states is that humans and the great apes share a COMMON ANCESTOR that lived around 10 million years ago. Evolution is measured in millions of years.
There are so many creation stories out there, so what was the criteria to pick the middle eastern Adam and Eve story and claim it's true. The Adam and Eve tells you of a talking snake, but we know that snakes cannot talk or hear. If you want science to take the Adam and Eve story seriously, you better start providing evidence for your claims.
Religions come and go after all.

Emmanuelcann:
Not true. There isn't an iota of evidence to prove that one species can change into another. You would have to live for millions of years to be able to do so. No single fossil evidence can prove that Charles Darwin's forefathers were apes, although he definitely resembles one.

Hey keyboard warrior, here is how it works.
You bring your evidence against evolution, get it peer reviewed and collect your Nobel prize. It's that simple. No be to dey wine mouth online.

Emmanuelcann:
It's an unproven unprovable theory - very unscientific bit of fiction!

How did you know that?
Please note that a theory is different from a hypothesis and that humans did not descend from monkeys.

How did you know this trick?

Ehiscotch:
Because Bible verses are the God's direct answers to questions and those who truly want to understand truth would be patient in mind.

Okay, so you who is patient in mind why can't God restore lost limbs and why is the so called miracles that god perform always something that can be faked.

Ehiscotch:
Matthew 16 vs 4. If you honestly want true answers and you aren't trying to be insincere try reading Matthew 16 with all honesty and sincerity of heart and the holy spirit shall reveal through your conscience the answer you seek.

Oga what is the reason why God won't restore lost/missing limbs or separate conjoined twins?

If He could glue a list ear back in place, then surely He can restore limbs right?

Kayberg:
John 12 (KJV)
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²⁸ Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
²⁹ The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
³⁰ Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
³¹ Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
³² And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

I don't understand you o. You keep quoting Bible verses, you are literally dodging the question:

Why can't God restore the legs of amputees

So let me get things straight, Job was just minding his business.
Na God first find trouble o.
God began to brag about Job with Satan.
God bets with Satan that Job will not turn away from him.

There are a few things to note here:
1. God is omniscient, meaning that He literally knew that He would win the bet and that Job will not turn against him, but He somehow gave Satan the permission to Bleep Job up.
2. After Job loses everything including his family, God simply replaces them like they are livestock or something . Meaning that innocent children lost their lives over a stupid bet between God and Satan, when God knew fully fell that He would win the bet.

What was that Job story trying to achieve in the first place?

Techguy96:
So god was so active in the old n new testaments when they was no recorder or camera.
The god could talk from the cloud n people would hear, sinners or not. Eg when Jesus was baptized.

But now that man inverted camera, god nor gree show up again o. Watin dey play na.

Exactly take the story of Elijah and the prophets of Baal for example, God supposedly sent fire from the sky to prove himself. It makes you wonder the likelihood that most stories in the Bible are just mythical tales that never really happened.

RoyalBoutique:
Then why did God ask Abraham to sacrifice his only son Isaac?

Then God later told him to bring a sheep.

This is to tell you that a sheep is equivalent to a human being for a God.

Does that mean that your Bible God is fake?

Lol, the story of Adam, God and Isaac is a really interesting one. It really depicts the cult like behaviour of most religious people. I'm sorry but if a voice came up to me and asked me to kill my son, I will tell it, "No" and probably also get my self checked for schizophrenia. But what did Abraham do? A voice asked him to sacrifice his son and He literally agreed, that's not faithfulness, that cultish behaviour.

The god of the old testament is sort of an a-hole, take that Job story for example.

thesicilian:
Only when a man is seriously sick, can you really tell if he's truly an atheist or not. You start hearing things like, " Oh God, if you can just take this sickness away from me, I will never doubt your existence again..."

Oh God take this sickness from me

Tell me when that statement has ever worked

God can restore eyesight.
God can raise the dead.
God can help you find your lost car keys.
God can heal the sick.
God can change your HIV status.
God can literally glue fallen ears back in place.

But, God cannot restore the limbs of amputees why?

Why is it that the so-called miracles are usually things that are easily faked, like blindness or an HIV test result.

Why do the so called miracles only happen in churches and not actual hospitals??

Oga you dey waste your time. For example, money ritual doesn't work, yet a lot of Nigerians believe it does. Nigerians have developed this disease I would like to call, "immunity to evidence".

Baawaa:
By your faith,I prays and God answers

So why doesn't God heal amputees

RoyalBoutique:
Any deity that requires a human being for sacrifice is a fake deity.

In the traditional world, a cow/horse is equivalent to a human.

This is just a note to those guys that kill people for sacrifice.

Any deity that requires any form of sacrifice whether human/animal is fake.

If you don't have anything meaningful to add, don't reply.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala Mr Agnostic, the Bible says God brought all the animals for Adam to name them {Genesis 2:19} but the book never mentioned any name there nah?
So what's your point?

Uhm Mr. Max, the Bible is trying to imply that all animals were alive at the time of Adam, but we know that animals like Dinosaurs went extinct before modern humans. E no add up.

Nigerians worship their pastors. Their pastor is sinless. He can never lie. Every word that comes out of his mouth is true. It doesn't matter how absurd it sounds, like angels sending money into bank accounts or the pastor having tea with God, as long as their pastor said it, then it's most definitely true.

Their country is falling apart. They've got more churches and mosques than health care centres. Nigeria is the hotbed of all sorts of conspiracy theories which a shockingly large amount of people believe. For example, in this time and age, some of them believe that the earth is flat, or that the vaccine is of the "devil". It's to no surprise how these absurd conspiracies have such a hard grip on them, given how ignorance and illiteracy is celebrated in the country.

Nigerians want the kidnappings to end, but at the same time, they are not willing to let go of some superstitious beliefs that encourage those kidnappings in the first place. That's why you see innocent people getting kidnapped by ignorant fools who think a certain deity will give them wealth in exchange for the blood of a virgin, and yes I am talking about this thing called "money ritual". The Nollywood industry is also in on this, they keep making movies that depict people getting rich after murdering a family member, because they know that's what their target demographic believes in.

Churches are easy businesses, some might even call them, the "perfect scam". The church pays no taxes, it's demographic is literally a scammer's wet dream and politicians pander around them. It is much easier to start a church than a business in Nigeria.

The Nigerians themselves are homophobic hypocrites. No wonder, the country ranked 4th among the 150+ countries that watches the most gay pornographic videos on the internet. So homophobic, yet so homoerotic *spits*. In public, Everybody dey form holy holy, but they know what they do in private, in their respective incognito browser tabs. Hypocrisy runs deep in their blood, they are one of the most religious nations in the world, yet somehow they are also one of the most corrupt.

Oh no, I am not done pointing out the hypocrisy of Nigerians, they want the freedom to practice their religion, but they are not willing to extend that freedom to non-Abrahamic religions. The Christians, themselves take pride in assaulting traditional worshippers, calling them derogatory names and even burning their places of worship (shrines) without batting an eyelid. But if a church is burned down, all hell will break loose, and the Christians will cry, "persecution", how ironical.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many creatures that weren't mentioned in the Bible because the information given in the book is not about animals rather it's about the one and only creature made in God's image.
So don't allow atheists to rob you off the joy that accompanies godly wisdom, if the Bible is about animals all animals will be mentioned and the book written would have been much more than 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses!

What are you talking about?
Your book literally says that god brought all the animals before Adam and He named each one of them. But we know that Dinosaurs went extinct before modern humans.

Oh by the way, I'm agnostic and unlike you, I work with evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
Snakes aren't created with the ability to speak but when a spirit takes possession of a creature even humans will loose their sanity saying things that never comes to their mind {Luke 4:33-34} WHY? Because the one speaking is not the person you're seeing rather it's a higher intelligent creature superior to man!
So when next you see someone saying strange things like telling you things you did in secret don't think it's a coincidence Sir, an invisible superior intelligence being is behind it!

Lol can you listen to yourself? Alright nigga, why don't snakes talk anymore?

A story that speaks about talking animals is called a fable��