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bluskyee:
Money is a serious issue when you live abroad. This is because you both work and earn and there are bills to pay. Sometimes the wife might even earn higher

Absolutely true

ednut1:
Men are mostly to blame. They tie their manhood to money. Imagine dating a lady while she was in university while you were working. You paid her bills, sponsored her finances during NySC, paid for the marriage. You didn’t allow her do any better work or you were earning more and she contributed nothing. Suddenly you are moving abroad where you need two income to survive.

The woman who has never paid bills or spent her money will still say a man is the provider in many cases. Some may agree to contribute but the man who has never done house chores or cooked while in Nigeria will not assist in house chores. Then resentment and hate enters leading to divorce. I know 5 people in my circle/ friends wey their marriage don scatter. The thing shock me.

It is very difficult for someone who has not been tested with the responsibility of paying bills to automatically understand what it means to be jointly responsible for maintaining a home. That is why there are credit ratings

lastkingsman:
It takes two to tangle. Both men and women are to be blame. Our society doesn't give much opportunities to women compared to men, hence the free time women have they use it do house chores while men provide.

The issue is just men adjusting in doing home chores and women contributing significantly to the house budget but no both parties want to maintain default settings.

Also issue of infidelity is a deal breaker.

Can you please tell me one advantage men have today in terms of opportunities that women don't have?

DenreleDave:
Good question but people won't ask bcox they are tribally motivated

Until we know the root of the problem, we can fully solve it



Not possible. We cant only believe what Allen tells us until the British tell us the reason

Which one is no reason

Stop acting like a kid..

The British have not given a feedback on the application.

Cromagnon:
Exorbitant rent that has nothing to do with bringing more money in is not investing and has nothing to do with career.
But do you, as it's your money
Same way he is doing him with his money

Exorbitant is a relative term, rent is not supposed to be an issue, ever since I started working, right from my early years in banking, every coy I worked for pays housing and furniture allowance in January, leave allowance in August, 13th month in December and bonuses in March, why won't you get yourself a befitting accommodation with good amenities? you can also share a flat with a colleague if you want. He said he earns in FCY and works for a foreign organisation, hence I expect his standard of living to be befitting.

madridguy:
Not because I am a Muslim, because I am a Africa man. Sir, if you will listen to me, this might sound like a joke to you, but i would want you to set up another family here in Nigeria. It is very important for your old age.

I guess you are in mid-late 20's, you see, when you are younger it is easier to rationalize and make certain decisions. Immediately after graduation, I worked in 3 different Coys, and I got queried for insubordination, twice. When you grow older, you become hasty in making decisions. How are you going to look at your son and explain to him that you got another family because of his mom naggings. What about your children? Unless you were raised without affection or you have witnessed or grew up in a polygamous home then you can sleep without your kids around. I would make so much money extra if I give up one of my weekends to do some oversight functions, but I can't trade that for my daughter's tennis practice. Now imagine me not seeing my daughters for a week, even if you pay me $200k, I would decline. My parents are lamenting everyday that we don't see, my siblings and I ensures they travel every quarter to spend time with each of us. Family is not what you just create and recreate

Cromagnon:
you are a spendthrift

Maybe, Maybe not, however, as a young person you have to spend on your career it is a continuous improvement project

madridguy:
Matured people like you are crying day and night in western country as we speak with the kind of treatment they're getting from their wife Small boy claiming mature man.

My wife was already a senior in Advisory in one of the big four, before we relocated. Hence we never had issues with managing finances nor she having any troubles submitting when were in Nigeria. Okkk, I can confirm that you are a Muslim and can have multiple families without worry. You are good to go.

madridguy:
Baba, immediately I have the plan to relocate abroad, the first thing I will so is to set up another family. Once the one we travel abroad start misbehaving, I will just quietly carry my bag, leave her with the children and continue my life with my second wife back home.

I will never accept any woman to lord over me as abroad women are use to be doing.

When you see someone reason like this just know the person is immature

yewit37486:
You cannot project your assumptions on others, that's the point. How do you know where he lives is unsafe? Did verybadmouth tell you that? Do you know him personally? Live and let live, it is his LIFE, and he made his decision to live where he lives based on factors he knows, respect that.

Btw, he works remotely, so where does entering BRT come in here?!!

Well if you work for a high valued organisation wether in Nigeria or abroad this is the first basic orientation you will be given. When I worked in Nigeria, the coy I worked with will not allow you to enter bike 🚳 let alone bus. Infact how would you even think of it. Well I guess he is working with a mushroom startup abroad. Let me let you know for free no sensible organisation abroad will let you work remotely without thinking about the security and data you have. Before I relocated, the Coy told me point blank we cannot guarantee safety of our data in Nigeria. It is either you relocate or you forget about it. For a 250k apartment in Lagos? Let me allow you rest biko, I cannot stress further.

yewit37486:
You simply can't conclude without knowing the full details. What if he decided to live in a cheap place in order to fast track his savings to buy his own place? What if there are family considerations in his choice to live where he lives?

if you earn well and you work for a valuable organisation please don't think like this please 🥺. Look if you work for a valuable organisation you have access to sensitive information I. Your computer, the Outlook or slack on your mobile has sensitive data, you cannot be boarding BRT or bus to work, what if your phone gets stolen or you get robbed? What if your work gadgets get stolen? How about the safety of your life? How can you live in a neighborhood without adequate private security? If you earn well forget about rushing to go build a house think smart and focus what is in front of you. You can buy a duplex for 120m with 60m down payment and get the remaining finance from the bank. Why are you thinking like a civil servant

verybadmouth:
I leave in a very affordable area for now. I prefer to leave here coz of their constant power supply. I can actually afford to leave anywhere I want. I just prefer to spend less on rent and focus on other projects

When you begin to get better pay you will relocate don't worry.

verybadmouth:

I no talk sey money no dey there oo. Bill sef no be small thing. As you dey collect, you dey spend. I'm a mobile app developer here in Nigeria and work for a US company remotely. Bro, it pays me here. My rent is just 250k yearly in Lagos. I have people that pay over 1 million monthly in London. They are crying

For you to be a developer and pay 250k rent, then you must be getting paid badly, when I lived back then in Lagos a decent apartment on the mainland around Ikeja I was paying 750k far back. Saying you will stay in Nigeria and be working for a US firm is myopic, if you have the means of relocating.

I am not going to type an epistle, I will just go straight to the point and ensure you get it right the first time.

The main reason for cracks in the holy matrimony especially for Nigerians living abroad is Finance. The second is lifestyle (infidelity, drugs etc), I may not have a solution to the lifestyle issues but I think I have a silver bullet for the financial issues.

Firstly if you are not yet married, this will be 💯% useful but if you are married, you may need to tweak it a bit to be useful.

Please 🙏 if you know at some point in your life you will nurse the ambition of travelling out of the country, DO NOT MARRY DOWN 👇. Marry a man or woman on the same financial level with you, it is very important, make I talk am again... Marry person wey una dey the same salary range.

The truth is if your wife earns in the same range like you in Nigeria, and yet she is SUBMISSIVE, take the marriage to Indochina, it will stand like the rock of Gibraltar and flourish like the biblical cedars of Lebanon.

Many people underestimate the value of CASH. Look my friend, cash is power 🙏 and power is intoxicating. How can you bring in someone who has never earned 100k in her life abroad and she undertakes some trainings, six months down the line she is making over $4k/m and you 🤔 it will be business as usual as the money increases and accumulates over time?

I have mediated in a handful marriages abroad, but the one wey dey make water 💦 💦 commot for my eyes na when you will see a full grown man begging wife wey you pay ticket for to come aboard. The truth is when you come abroad power may/will change hands, do not test such power with someone in an unfamiliar terrain.

Finally as women will say, it is better to cry in a RR than in Keke Napep, it is also better to come in with a financially stable partner so that if things do not work out at least both of you contributed financially hence you share your estate and life goes on

I did not proof read this, swallow all the grammatical errors in peace ✌️

Racoon:
Tufiakwa! Even If I move over to the UK, I trust God for my marriage to remain intact because happiness in marriage depends on the love, respect, and understanding you have with your wife.

To avoid this, ensure your wife is working in Nigeria and makes good money (that way she sees money as nothing) . If your wife is not used to having her own money and you immigrate to a good country and she starts earning well, brother there is bound to be a problem, if you like marry Martha, cash is power and power is intoxicating

DestinyNigga:
America will be in severe pain now

any group wey America no dey na just assembly. Did you know that one of the largest shareholder in Africa Development Bank is USA?

AllenSpencer:
Footballers are rated based on statistical achievements, same way it applies to Musicians.

You have to rate it on acceptance, sales, awards and earnings.

You too like wahala wahlaiii

AllenSpencer:
I rock French music too, mostly Central African. It doesn’t mean the music industry there is top notch. Music will always appeal to a class of people irrespective of location.

If you bring statistics to the table, you will see the wide margin. I doubt if any Nigerian Artiste can even match Da Baby.

You are missing the basic point, back in the days, when we go clubbing, from start to finish no DJ will play Naija songs. However in recent times you can be in a club and Naija song will buzz from start to finish

AllenSpencer:
Life has levels!

Same way American musicians will make Nigerian musicians look like toddlers!

that was before, Naija artiste they shock me, I went for a golf function in Scotland and the elderly guys were rocking Tempoe's Soweto.

All this madness will end once the Alahajis organize a meeting for him head. Northerners will humble him

BigIyanga:
In ideal Naija, you would have remained to pursue your career and start a family… nope but you left because of Naija’s peculiar realities

I started my career here in Nigeria changed jobs here on Nairaland , got married in Nigeria started my family in Nigeria and when opportunities came calling outside the country I took it. My point is the country is not supposed to be this hard, we have the resources for every Nigerian to live comfortably

BigIyanga:
Idealism vs realism… welcome to the reality side of Naija lol

Nothing like idealism, I attended public schools in Nigeria worked for choice organisations before leaving the country and I had a fantastic experience

9jatriot:
You see that job experience eh, some sensible people will even pay the company to have it. Some will volunteer in companies to gain it.

Yet you find many broke and unserious people brandish degrees and certifications without experience and start feeling entitled to big salaries.

Many of them are on nairaland 247, opening threads upandan without trying to improve themselves and be useful

Despite the fact that he tried, life is not meant to be that hard, for a Nigerian with all our common wealth

Isese day must be held in Kwara no backing down, the west must restore her dignity

Asgard73:
Kwara is gone.. gone forever..

Next is kogi..

Lagos “ might” follow in no distant future.

Lesson..

Be careful what you wish on others..

Now Yoruba people now know boundary..

People that lAugh and divide igbos over Rivers state are being served

Not even Rivers can do this to igbos.. not in next 100 centuries

There is nothing like Rivers and Igbos, there are Igbos tribes in Rivers. I am from Rivers State and I speak and understand Igbo. Just like my parents and the ones before them

9jatriot:
What of during the day?

I disagree. If you really want to be successful without being destructive, no one can hold you back.

Why did Buhari cancel the Bus transit initiative in Lagos in the 1980's,? why did Yar Adua reverse the sale of NNPC by Obasanjo? Subsidy could have died with it? Why was Lagos frustrated from generating and disturbing power despite several attempts when the Naira had weight? There are stumbling blocks even Tinubu knows there are forces

Favorisieren:
This part I have read tells me that you are saying corruption is a general problem in Nigeria. Of course, you are right, but the main point is that northerners still do not leave their states for other places in millions. This is the main point.

Again, get it into your head that no matter how terrible the leadership of a place is, as long as good people don't give up and keep fighting, victory is sure. Igbo is a failure in this regard.

Remember, I didn't say they are lazy. I only said that they are greedy. Period. Let them stay in their region like others. One way or the other, they will tackle their problems.

All these states you have mentioned with problems are still the states Igbos are running to. What is that telling you: in uncertainties and oppressions from their leaders, they are still moving forward in developing their regions. But Igbos do not want to endure anything. They prefer to move to places where the hosts are enduring to eat good things there.


I have bolded that part again to still tell you that let Igbo keep developing other regions. Lol. Of course, no one is arguing with you that they don't do such in different states. Why can't they do it in their states? Lol. At the end of the day, they are only developing other regions. Is that not fo.olishness? They left theirs to develop others, and they complain of marginalization. Lol.

If Rivers indigenes are not there to fight for their rights and develop their state, Igbo won't be there. Igbo has two oil-producing states....so since the period they have been collecting allocations like Rivers, what has happened to their states that they can't stay there? Lol.

With all your lies and macroeconomics...so are you saying that there is macroeconomics in Rivers and not in those two Igbo oil-producing states? Dey play. Dey deceive yourself.

Thank God you said you are from Rivers State. What you are still saying is a general problem in Nigeria. At least two Igbo states collect oil income back to back. So why have Rivers indigenes stayed and Igbos in those two states nowhere to be found? Why are you saying the government neglected them?

Rivers waste...yes. but we can still see projects there. Where are the projects in Igbo land? Lol. Dem no dey collect money? Please don ever say the government neglected them again. Never.

Do you think anyone can cheat an Igbo man?
Check this statement I have bolded again. Do you really think anyone can cheat Igbo? Dey play. Stop saying rubbish here. Those Igbo states collect what is enough in comparison to other states. But government picks projects based on the greater good they will do. It is logical to focus on places where the population is high. As you said earlier about Banagida...so, you expect Babangida to build build a bride of such nature in Imo. Dey play na. If Igbos are not many in Lagos, there will be no need for building them. Even now, they are so many that, there is a need for fourth mainland bridge.

So, Igbo should stay put in Lagos na. Lol. Wetin concern others. Let them keep developing other places. Lol



I did not excuse Ondo, Osun, or Oyo. If it is 3/6, it is fine. It is still my point. This is to tell you that the government did not abandon the Igbo region as you claimed. You are just buttressing my point that Igbos have allocations from the government. Lol. Can't you see that you are helping me to say that Igbos are greedy?

Despite the challenges in these Yoruba states you have mentioned, they have not deserted them and they are not making excuses like Igbos.

If Igbos can return to their states, believe me, no one can stop them. They are very smart.

Guy, they are their enemies. They are the reason they are marginalized. They have everything to excel. No one is marginalizing them. They are just self-centered and greedy. They do not want to compete to be the president of Nigeria. They just want others to give it to them.

They went to war. Who asked them to fight the war? What was the reason they fought the war? Was it, not greediness? Cos they just wanted to lead Nigeria by force. Ibo and Hausa were the only two regions that led Nigeria before they went to war. Yet, they went to war because they believed they must rule Nigeria. Lol. Yoruba and Fulani had not ruled. Yet, Igbo went to war.

See, they can cry all they want and say they are marginalized. No one has marginalized them. They must compete for everything. They must develop their region.

Stop making excuses for them. You are just a liar by saying the government doesn't spend on them. The government is still spending very well on them. You even showed that some of their GDPs are more than 3 Yoruba states. So, what is their problem? Where is the marginalization coming from?

Now, imagine they decide to develop their states, can you imagine how prosperous those states will be?

Please, do not go around again. The main point here is that Igbo should return to their states and develop them. No one is saying they are lazy. Also, you are a liar to say that the Federal government of Nigeria abandoned the Igbo States. You are a liar. And from our message exchange, you even have shot yourself that they have a reasonable GDP. If people in states with lesser GDP do not run away, what excuse do they have? Ok. They will call on angel Gabriel to send angelic workers to build their states while they are busy developing other places

This will be my final response to you, I have lived I presently live in Northern England and everyday you see Yoruba families trooping in, family of four, family of 5...when I had my first assignment in Ireland same thing, both those that were living legally and illegally, if Lagos was as beautiful as you paint it why are they japaring? running like there is war in Nigeria while there isn't. Yorubas are the highest claimant of Asylum outside Nigeria followed by Edos yet civil war wasn't fought in your region.
Humans will continually migrate to were they perceive they will do better. "Why are Northerners not migrating?" Northerners do migrate like the Igbos but because of their less competitive nature, they stay in the shadows, they occupy the slums of Lagos, the forests in Ogun and Ondo and the bushes in the Southern hinterland. 90% of all Northern technocrats came from the civil service. Look, I cannot go on and on with this... afterall it is one Nigeria and everyone has a right to live where they choose as long as they are Nigerians....cheers

Favorisieren:
I agree that the government is the biggest spender everywhere; however, Nigeria is a little bit different.

We have state government also. Our main income in Nigeria is oil, and there is a formula for how the government shares income in Nigeria.

You are painting a distorted story that the government deliberately abandoned SE. Nope. Most SE nations have very high revenue allocations from the government. So, stop saying that the government does not invest in you.

The Nigerian system is built in a way that states are to build the economy of their states. This is the truth you do not know.

As educated as you people are, you do not hold your government accountable. Look at the projects Obiona, Okorocha, and many of your governors embarked on. Are they worth it? Okorocha used billions of naira to build statues ...lol. Na macroeconomics na. Lol.

When you invest wisely, you get more. Babangida invested in Lagos because he saw the need. Did you give him any reason to invest more in your state? You are mostly in Lagos and the population is so dense, do you expect the government to build more roads that are not used in your region? Of course, the government will build more in Lagos.

Let's leave Lagos and talk about Rivers State. Can you honestly say that any of your governors can stand Rivers in terms of projects? Lol. Was Rivers State so rich also?

Oga, keep making excuses for your failures. The government will not invest in a region its people deserted. So, keep macroeconomics around. Lol.


Not all states can be equal, and Ondo is picking up. Ondo is building a seaport soon initiated by its government recently. Also, Ondo is pushing for the legalization of marijuana. Ekiti will benefit from it too. And their people are on the ground to get the job started.

You have not got the point. Here is it again. We know it is not easy, but Rivers people stayed and endured it. Today they are getting better. Ondo is almost getting there, and because people are on the ground there, their seas port will be ready very soon. Again there are farmers on-ground in Ondo and Ekiti that are ready to start producing marijuana as soon as it is legalized. Where are the majority of Igbo? Lol...macroeconomics other regions....lol. and Federal government will develop those states they are macroeconomics. Lol. Later you will cry that you are marginalized. Yet, you are still collecting oil revenue ooo. Chai!

Can you see the difference now? Where are Igbos? They do not even want to make any attempt to develop theirs. Their lifestyle is where money is, and they abandoned their state. If half of you guys remain in your states, you would have pushed the government to invest more in your region. . I have bolded this previous statement for it to sink into your brain, but I am sure it will not sink well cos you are naturally stubborn. What you will do is what you will do. So, go ahead and keep macroeconomics in other regions and do not return to develop yours. Maybe it is the Yoruba, Tiv, Hausa, Fulani, Ibibio, etc that will push for the development of your region. We shall see. And we will see if your excuses will make angels come down from heaven to develop your states. Eh na. Keep neglecting your region, and keep developing others. We will see who it will affect. Keep macroeconomics Lagos, Rivers, Kaduna...and other good states.


What have you done with the income from Federal government allocations? All states have a monthly income from the federal government, and what have you done with yours? Ibo states have a very high percentage of income from the government. What have you done with it?

Instead, Okorocha spent all on building statues. Others were laughing at you then, and you did nothing about it. How come Rivers overtook all your states? How? I will tell you na. Their people did not abandon their homes. This is the important point we are telling Igbos, but you are too greedy running after money where you think there are opportunities. Instead of you to stay and fight for your region, you want to make money fast.

We see it in your actions in your daily activities. You are after money by any means. The process to acquire wealth is not your concern whether it is clean or not, you just want to get money.

Who introduced the importation of fake products to Nigeria? Lol. Who taught the Chinese how to sell bad products to Nigeria? You know the truth na.

Get it into your brain....I compared China and Israel to Ibo states in one area only. Chinese stayed to build their nation, and Israeli returned to build theirs too. What about igbo? They are giving excuses why they will not return.

And I went further that no one has taking your land. You do not have to fight to recover your land like the Israeli. So, what is your excuse for running away?


I have addressed this part. At least there are states in this region you have pointed out that are doing well. You do not expect all of the states in South West (Yoruba) to do well altogether right now. Oyo, Ogun, and Lagos are there...and you didn't say much. Lol. And Ondo is getting it. Ekiti also will move into it soon.

The point is that the indigenes are still there, and they are managing the allocations from the Federal government. Gradually, they will get it.

But Igbo will not get it. Why? They keep abandoning their places. Lol.



You talk like Nigeria left the Igbo region alone. Lol.

Here is just a part of the revenue from the Federal government to the state government.

Delta state: N114.75 billion between January and June 2022. It got 30.4% of the total amount shared by the eight states

Akwa Ibom state: N80.02 billion, 21.2% of the total amount transferred Bayelsa received a sum of N76.74 billion, 20.3% of the total shared amount Rivers state: N70.44 billion

Edo state: N14.51 billion

Ondo state: N9.47 billion

Imo state N8.16 billion

Abia state: N3.84 billion

Read more: https://www.legit.ng/business-economy/energy/1492308-nigerias-oil-producing-states-how-allocation-fg/


There are other allocations from the government. Are Imo and Abia, not Igbo states? So, why talk like the government abandoned you and didn't care?

Igbos have a big problem, and they are not aware of it. You all want the take the best part, be the leader, and be in front. Lol. Your idea is that Government should just give ONLY Igbo the whole N114.75 billion shared among all the states to only Igbo. Then, you know the government has done you well. Lol.

The little you have, there is nothing you can say you have done with it. But some states are still making progress...only Igbo states in general are not making progress. Lol.

Germany made use of the little the US gave it to build itself back. They were also available to do the job. The little you collect per month, you cannot account for it. Yet, you want more.

This is a better argument you have put forward. Now let me ask you, what percentage of Nigerian income is spent on recurrent expenditures (salaries and loan servicing) ? In the aspect you are going all Nigerian state are a failure even Lagos. The reason is because we run an over bloated system, what you mentioning is a Nigerian problem and not a southeast problem. The North for example have more people living in poverty and are battling disease like polio that are not existent in other part of Nigeria despite leading the country for many years. Would you say the Northern Governors are fantastic? or do you want to compare the standard of living and poverty? But they have a lot of billionaires and more government presence than most region, so who would you blame for the North's backwardness?

Thank God you mentioned my state Rivers, the amount of wastage in rivers is second to none. We have petroleum resources which is the mainstay of the Nigerian economy and oil companies pay royalties to the state government apart from FARC (what you call FG allocation) If you remove the oil in our backyard we will be worse off. Let me also remind you that the best houses, markets and indigenous industries booming in Rivers are owned by Igbos, like Seplat, Nestoil etc, while those in the riverine get direct allocation from oil companies. Infact the Rivers market from Portharcourt upwards are dominated by Igbos.

If you can excuse Ondo to be catching up and Ekiti to be warming up Osun no even follow, that is 3/6, for a region that did not experience war, Anambara, Enugun and Imo are also doing ok. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_GDP, I have given you the link of GDP of states in Nigeria to look at their producing capacity now judge for your self.....

EmperorCaesar:
Having a presy from your tribe wasnt the only point he raced but since after any of your kinsmen lost an election, u suddenly become energized to shout "Marginalization", I think its fair he added that to his points

It is normal for people to feel bad when they lose election, at least they are civil about it. Do you know how many southern corpers were slaughtered in kastina when Buhari lost in 2011? Sometimes I wonder how people become bereft of reality

Favorisieren:
Look at the part I bolded again. Whose fault? Can never be Igbo's fault, but the government's. Oh! Igbo is just so clean that he has no fault. Whose fault? Some will say Hausa. Others will say Yoruba. Keep blaming others.

Did wars stop the Chinese and Israeli from developing their nations? Only Igbo is using that as an excuse. Lol. Just imagine what this one is saying. He is justifying the reasons he abandoned his region. Lol.

By the way, you are talking to someone with economics as a minor in college. Ok?

Igbo man investments are mostly micro and not macro. So, stop saying what you don't understand.

The point is still...no one will build your region for you, but you keep going round and round why you do not want to build your region. Lol.

Don't worry...do not return home to build your region and keep macroeconomics about other regions.

So, the Chinese didn't return home to build his nation...right? Oh...the Israeli scattered all around the world. What did they do? They returned to fight for their land. In your case, no one steals any of your land. You just abandoned it, and you are justifying nonsense. Lol. Israel is still fighting till date for thir land, yet no one takes Igbo's land away from them. They deliberately just abandoned it. You all have a very big problem. Yet, you dont know yet. Lol.

Listen, the average Igbo man is stubborn, and it is why many don't regard you. You always want to have the last words in every debate. People will always allow you to have the last words because they know that is who you are, but listen, they won't allow you to have your way. Have you not learned?

Very funny. And this is what all of you always do. You are arguing that you are after macroeconomics in other regions and you left your own region. Funny, you don't even know the difference between micro and macroeconomics. Lol.

Please, keep macroeconomics about on, and expect the Fulani or Yoruba to build your region. Also, expect to be the president without developing your regions.

Let me say it again here...I do not see you becoming the Nigerian president in the next 50 years. Go and mark my words.

It is better you just fight for Biafra legitimately without war, but you will return to your region. Oh! You don't want to go. I forgot you are macroeconomics. Hehehheh!

It seems you are confused.

If you do not build your region, you are irresponsible. And no one wants an irresponsible person as a leader.

I know you are all stubborn and you will not agree. So, we will allow you to continue developing other regions. But a region that refuses to develop itself will never rule. It is as simple as ABC.

Sometimes you sound intelligent, sometimes you sound rusty. I have just explained to you that in every developing economy Government is the biggest Spender, the biggest buyer and the biggest debtor. So yes if government doesn't invest in your region you can't break even. Let me say it slowly....if government doesn't invest in your region you cannot break even. The government is the biggest Spender!!! Let it sink. Babaginda spent billions in crude swap to build the 3rd mainland bridge that was what made maboro, Berger, ibafo down to Owode lucrative. You have the ports in Lagos, the government continues to invest in Apapa, head of all the ministries were formerly in Lagos before they were relocated to Abuja, these ministries existed in Lagos for years. Talking about the Southwest, why is Ekiti or Ondo not as prospective as Lagos? You compare the Southeast with China? don't let me call you a joker. No the Southeast cannot and will not be able to to sort themselves unless they get the economic stimulus which is government presence and spending. So far you have to applaud the Igbos, I envy them, this is a region that was ravaged by war and poverty after the war. Ekiti is not comparable to IMO, neither is Osun why haven't Osun people developed their region? Ekiti has lots of professors why haven't Ekiti levelled up? After the second world war Germany continued to receive funds from the US until they could get on their feet. The UK finished paying their world war two loan to the US in 2006. Israel has received both Military and Financial aid from the US more than any country on Earth. Poland and Greece were bailed out by the Eu to enable the build infrastructure, and you are telling a region who only got 20pounds after a war to go and rebuild by themselves....think am na

Favorisieren:
You have deviated from my point.

My point: Igbo abandoned their homes and developed other places.

Your point: Babangida and Buhari are not able to develop their states despite they were leaders of Nigeria.

Are these two points correlated? Nope. You missed the point.

Now, I will add an assumption to this topic based on your point.

Statement 1: Igbo states have a high rate of intelligent and educated people. I think yes.

Statement 2: Daura and Niger have lower rates of intelligent people because education is not well accepted there. I think yes.

Assumption: Daura and Niger have a similar rate of education and intelligent people like Igbo states.

Dearest, read the assumption again. If that statement is then, your argument that Buhari and Babangida did not develop their states might find a way into this topic.

If you understand the logic, you definitely will get my point, but if you don't, you will not get it.


Why are there no government institutions when you do not show interest in developing your states? You keep saying you go to where economic activities are....this is still saying that you don't care about your states. If you don't care about your state, who will develop it for you? If you are busy developing other regions, why should anyone establish institutions there?

Go back to my first statement above in the logic section of this post. Now think of these statements:

Truth 1: Igbo are smart and intelligent.

Truth 2: More Igbos studied outside their lands.

Note: Truth 2 is based on your post. Of course, everyone knows it is the truth...no doubt.

Question:
Is Igbo saying govt should create institutions for the people who will still abandon everything there?

You blame everyone for everything; yet, you still fail to realize that you need to return home and develop it. No one will develop it for you if you don't return home. You want us to make you president. And so what? You won't still return home.

Anyway, the issue of Igbo becoming the president of Nigeria is a sensitive topic...but I wish we just talk about Igbo abandoning their homelands in the name of finding green pastures.

Does it make sense to abandon your home? If others abandon theirs too, will you go there?

No one will ever put trust in someone who abandons his property to come overseer a big economy. No way.


Of course, you can. And I am not too proud to learn from others. As I wrote above, Igbos are extremely intelligent. No doubt about it.

I have not said you aren't developing the places you go. Sure, you guys are smart. You can create wealth ...no doubt.

My point is still this...why develop other areas when you abandon your place? Does it make sense to you?

Israelis returned home to develop their nation. No one will respect you if you abandon your home. This is the point we have been telling you. And you cannot be lord over your hosts. You even wanted to do it in Lagos saying it is no man's land. Lol.

No Igbo man will still accept that he needs to return and build his place. This is the stubbornness we always talk about, and the same stubbornness in all other areas.

Your stubbornness won't change the truth, and no matter how you paint it...the truth is the truth. Here is the truth again: No wise one will allow a man who abandons his properties to rule over bigger things no matter how intelligent the man is.

Question 2: Why are there no economic vslues in your states?

You need to have a thorough understanding of macro economics if you want to know why the Igbo people love to move...Firstly they fought a civil war and they lost, hence they fell from the food chain order, which resulted in the loss of federal pressence in the region. Kaduna alone has more Federal pressence than the entire South East. Where you have Government presence, you have Government spendings and you have more people with disposable income and then trade begins to thrive. There were businesses in the Southeast before the War, Aba was a hub in the sixties and Onitisha wasnt far behind Lagos during this period, but what happened next? In the 70's and 80's you devalued the Naira, increased petroleum, raised interest rates to tackle inflation and these businesses evaporated. The Igbos hence started a mass migration to Lagos to take up the only lucrative venture which was importation. I will close down my production take the little money left go to China and begin to import. That was the genesis of the mass migration. It was the failure of government

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The day Igbo realizes they are the weakest link in Nigeria is the day they are delivered. Just like everyone has noticed, they have almost abandoned their region and focused on developing other regions. Why? Something is wrong with them.

We don't practice state of residence but state of origin in Nigeria. I can count up to 25 or more Igbos in my secondary school who are my mates out of 50 in Lagos State. The last time we got together, about 15 out of these people have been to their state of origin for a max of 3 days or did not bother to go. Yet, they comfortably fill their SE states as their origins in all their documents, but they know nothing about the place. And they go online shouting Igbo men should be president every time.

Many of them left Nigeria and did not return, but they go online causing wahala. They even make their children born abroad who have not visited Nigeria think every other person hates Igbo. But these people abandoned their places and they aren't still ready to return. Why?

To date, I do not understand the reason. They are the only region that thinks they must be the president because they deserve it. Did the other regions think they deserve it or contest? Lol. They want to be the president only during elections, but either want Biaf4a nation or a military takeover after losing elections. Tell me, who will want to put your kind of people in charge of the affairs of the nation?

It baffles me how those who claim to be Igbo that are not born in Nigeria support the useless ones at home.

The Igbo I know are good people, but when they refuse to fight bad people among them, do they expect others just give Igbo the presidency? Igbo caused war because of greediness and they are still. Who will ever allow such kind of people to rule over them?

Let Igbo think it through well. Let the good ones among them do something. I don't see any Igbo becoming the president of Nigeria in the next 20 years, and it can easily be extended to the next 100 years.

The best for Igbo is to find a way to create their nation if they are not ready to contest elections fairly, but they should do it without violence. Let them go and try it. This is my prayer for them, and let us see what will become of the Biafra nation. We will see how they will use the oil they always talk about when they aren't the majority of oil owners in Nigeria. They have forgotten about agriculture entirely.

I dont understand it....they abandoned their region, and live in other regions, and they are shouting that they want Biafra nation. Are they normal? So, if they create Biafra nation, do they still expect to live freely the way they live in other regions enjoying subsidies and other free supports? If their hosts chase them out of their places after having Biafra, what will they do?

Oh...I forgot...they always think they are entitled to everything. Oh....they will carry placards and go online saying they hate Igbos. Lol. Yes, they can have Biafra nation and still dominate other regions na.... Lol. Oh...they can even conquer other regions they occupy now since they thibk they are the ones building the regions. Very foolish way of acting. How can you leave your region and say you build other regions. Lol.

Seriously, the Igbo would drive themselves into extinction cos of their greediness. Greed is bad. How can they be too money conscious and abandon their states? It doesn't make sense.

They will soon attack me because of this post. The truth is very bitter.

What does having the president from your tribe mean? Niger state produced Babaginda and Abubakar, are there no poor people in Niger state today? is everyone living in Daura today a millionaire because the past president hails from there? The Igbos always go to where there are economic activities or where competition in trade is less stiff. In most Eastern states there are no presence of government institutions apart from the universities and government is the biggest buyer, the biggest Spender and the biggest debtor in every economy. I can educate further on how government create wealth and economic activities through debt if you are humble enough to learn