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Eruditor:
Lakers were projected 2nd in the west by most analysts last season as well. [/b]In fact, ESPN rated them higher than the Raptors. LOL.

Stop quoting "analysts". Open your eyes and shut your heart. [b]Analysts said Bucks will win it all. Even said Bucks will beat GSW with KD. LOOOL. They could not beat the Raptors.

Hope you know that the Rockets just moved up all the rankings because of the Westbrook trade, whereas, me who was talking up their chances, retracted my claims. So being contrarian and subjecting myself to independent yet critical and fact-based thinking should not come to you as a surprise. I usually do this.

Eruditor:
You should know who you are talking to. When I am being emotional with my opinion, you would know. I don't like Rockets enough to big them up. That fact is well-known. I was calling it as I saw it. Colin Cowherd is as big a Lebron fan as any journalist. But even he is not sold on the team. You need to know the difference between someone saying a team won't win and that they don't have good players. If you had 11 Lionel Messi's on one team, they won't win as well. The Lakers team don't have balance and Lebron does not have enough to play heroics to cover those lapses anymore. Even in Cavs, the decline was getting palpable. They eked out a game 7 win against the Celts. And could not take the Lakers from 35 wins to 48 which the Clippers did. So if you are seeing a 20 game swing on the LAL because of your roster. Great for you. I don't see it. I see it with the Clippers. They had 48 before Kawhi and can very well get 12 more with him and PG. Their defence is solid and they have good interior and some perimeter shooting.

Think critically about your LAL and convince yourself that they are as good. You won't convince me.

donlittle25:
Jordan retired decades ago and man name came up more

RiskelWillow:
The idiot claimed john wall was not a top 25 player and now that hes been exposed hes claiming hes been joking all along. If i had a dollar for every time i've heard that excuse

Hardetayour:
LooooooooooooooooL. I'm just catching cruise with these fellows and they're biting hook line and sinker

SmooshCHN:
The guilty party files the suit and the thief cries thief.
Forget the poor grammar. It's an Asian proverb.

You invented this offense. Too bad the dude used it. I'm still laughing.

RiskelWillow:
How shameful. When your backs against the wall you can claim your opinion is your prerogative but won't extend the same courtesy to someone else when he expresses his opinion. Especially when your opinion is an outlier as far as the topic is concerned. You should be ashamed of yourself and your selective outrage small fry.

Hardetayour:
You have your top 25, I have mine and John Wall isn't in it.

Just like LeBum is your goat and MJ is mines. Deal with it.

DeeMain:
I quite agree with your argument. Only the times will prove KD's post injury performance level. How one recovers from an Achilles injury is not arithmetic, it is subjective.

I wish KD well though. May he recover fully.

SmooshCHN:
You're definitely not a scientific person and if you are an don't understand what I wrote it's sad cos your education failed you. A grown man like you should say he doesn't understand rather than make up words or put words in someone's mouth when you can't think and grasp simple explanations. If anyone's averaging 24ppg from an achilles injury, it's KD and I gave explanations and he's not on John Wall level when he returns. Simple.

If you want to act brash and ignorant, that's your problem.

SmooshCHN:
I'm done with you here since you know nothing about how the human body works when it comes to how much force you have to use to move your own weight and how this is related to "athleticism". You couldn't comprehend so you think I said weight and athleticism is the same thing and opted for a more stupid comparison.

[b]Imagine thinking Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant have the same playing style. [/b]Basic thinking eluded you on this one. I'm not bothered.

DeeMain:
But there's still a big question mark on Boogie post rehab. Only the season will be able to vindicate him.

donlittle25:
Kobe? That man was like 37 lol.

SmooshCHN:
Did you see DeMarcus before his injury? Does his game not rely on his strength and weight? Does he have the same body type as Kevin Durant? I would've asked if you understood the body system and what load does to the Achilles but unfortunately you will not understand and you're clearly not willing to. KD and Cousins are same height but different weight. And all that weight is loaded on the knees and achilles. That's why the world is begging Embiid to stop acting like a fool to lose some weight and stop eating burgers before games. If you think KD is going be be like Cousins upon return, I'm here to tell you that you'll be wrong. No to sound annoying but I know what I'm saying here.

Take a look at Paul George's injury.. If that happened to DeMarcus, Embiid, Shaq and people of that mass who are overweight and rely on strength to get buckets, they are as good as reserves not even bench players unlike centers like Gobert, Jokic who don't do as much with their body to be effective. The former rely on their weight, strength to do most of their work and I'm not talking catching lobs.

KD and John Wall are not mates in playing style. They don't play the same way. KD would get buckets in a 3X3 feet cos that's all he needs. John Wall would need 10m . You cannot compare him before or after injury with John Wall who just had a major knee and achilles surgery.

Here's one more if you'll be open minded, anything that takes away LeBron's explosiveness will only be a problem for him bullying his way to the rim but and would only reduce his buckets but he can compensate with his passing abilities. So with or without injury he's still a top 10 player and you cannot compare him to Giannis if they both have the an achilles injury. There's levels to this. LeBron post groin injury last season was still a top 5 player. The argument people will make is that he's declining due to age which could will always be nothing more than an argument no one will win.

Hardetayour:
So steady986 is trying to say John Wall was a top 25 player before the injury? Leeemmmaaaaaooo

Khanben:
Boogie was always overweight before his injury. One of the things doctors have pointed to as it regards KD's return is that his body type allows for persons to come back at nearly the same level when they left off. Dominique Wilkins came back even better from an Achilles injury and his body type was all lean muscle nearly like KD.

Khanben:
The list said in no order bro. Boogie was a top 25 player before injury not a top 10 or even top 15, so it is very visible then after an Achilles injury the drop off in ability will push him out of the top 25 players category.
KD on the other hand is a top 2 or top 3 player depending on your listing. Even if he comes back at 80-85% he will still be a top 25 player.

SmooshCHN:
All that rage and you still didn't make sense. Sorry big bull, this is about putting KD and John broken Wall in the same sentence not Bron as you would have loved. Since you only understand when Bron is mentioned. Imagine saying LeBron and Isaiah Thomas should be in the same sentence because both are injured. Whichever way you want to push the convo to, it sounds stupid. You should stop

SmooshCHN:
The effrontery to put John Wall and Kevin Durant in the same sentence and call someone a dullard is straight rhetoric. You should check yourself into support group for retárds.


John Wall and Kevin Durant. Lmao.

SmooshCHN:
the person you're replying is incapable of comprehending what you just wrote and if he does, he'll never agree just for the fun of it. Imagine comparing an injured John Wall with torn is it ACL and ruptured achilles to an injured KD with torn Achilles who doesn't even rely on athleticism to get buckets.

Khanben:
KD and Wall are not in the same universe at all especially with the injuries they both suffered. Wall is an undersized guard who can't shoot and whose game is predicated on athleticism. KD's game on the other hand even if he slows down upon his return will still be able to shoot over any opposition.
No pundit will bet money on there being 25 NBA players who will be better than KD when he comes back, but almost all take that same bet if the player is John Wall.

Eruditor:
Lebron Cannot shoot. Every fool knows it. But you are less than every fool so I understand why you don't know or see it. LOL @ Better numbers. With all the usage, lack of efficiency and stat-padding. Do you pray for a brain during your spare time? Why do you think nobody talked about Russell's triple double but instead praised PG 13 on the same team or why did Harden not win MVP in spite of his historic numbers? Three syllables: Stat- Pad- ding. That is the answer.

Ok. Father time is not slowing him down. Make we dey watch. I am eager to hear the excuses you would make. I already know Vogel will be blamed for it. Which reminds me, last season, Lakers were ranked higher than the Raptors before the season began. Then they did not even make the playoffs whilst the Raptors won the chip.

I almost wanted to ignore the rubbish about CP3 but may be just may be there is still an aspect of your brain that is not maggot infested. CP3's game was never based on the things age steals from players which is why the Rockets had no fear in giving him a huge contract. If your analysis of the Rockets chances are based on CP3 you are just typing for the sake of it.

I remember when they said the young Lakers core won 35 games without Lebron and so with him they will win 50 games. EL-O-EL

SmooshCHN:
You're high on retárd juice and I'm not sorry to say that. The disrespect to think John Wall should be up there because KD is there.
See what available data has caused.

Khanben:
I'm making a list of the top 25 players in the NBA currently. Its based on Morey's quote that only 25 guys matter as it pertains to deciding the league's narrative next season.
Finding it hard to decide on some names though. But in no order.
Lebron, KD, AD, Steph, Kawhi, PG13, Klay, Harden, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Lillard, Kyrie, Westbrook, KAT, Jimmy Butler, Aldridge, Deroazan, Bradley Beal, Ben Simmons, Luca Doncic, Donovan Mitchell, Kemba Walker, Kyle Lowry, and finally Kevin love.

Hardetayour:
Why did they lose as many games as they won when he came back?

Answer on a sheet of paper

Eruditor:
Can Lebron shoot? nope. Free throws? nope. Defend? Not like before. So what are the upsides to his game? Barrelling into players, traveling and dunking? Yea. Those are the very things that father time exposes the fastest. I ignored your daft post about a groin injury because you are the same idiot who did not listen to GSWs own injury so save that for the marines.

You look at the whole Rockets team, and zero in on CP3 like he is their best player. LOLOLOL.

You are not retarded. You and the other schizo dumbo are sharing the same brain which is majorly air and nothing else.

Eruditor:
What changed about the Rockets? Apart from losing to GSW (who have their button) and perhaps the seeming discord between the star players they were 65 wins in 2017, 50+ wins in 2018 with all their injuries and tied 2-2 with GSW (With KD still on the team). The fact of the matter is, between 2017-18 only GSW would have beat the Rockets. They play this Raptors without injuries and they would have won. Now people have kept them aside. I don't see anything to shout about Denver. They are the ones who look like regular season hipsters. They had no reason to lose a game 7 against the Blazers without Nurkic last season. Perhaps, maybe that is why I don't respect them as such. Philly definitely improved with Al Horford joining. But they look top heavy as well so I know they are good but that is their asterisk. There is absolutely nothing the Lakers will add that will significantly change their fortunes. Nothing. The better players in the trade block have found franchises. Don't let this fake analysts create a narrative that won't see the light of day. Ask yourself one question, if Kawhi had stayed back in Toronto and the Clippers got some of the players that now went to the Lakers will anyone start telling us that the Clippers improved? So what changed?

And please don't tell us about AD and Bron improving people around them. We know that to be almost completely false. See George Hill and Rodney Hood for example. We also saw AD in Pelicans with a coach they claimed was the brain behind GSWs 2014/15 title. So what changed? What will he do differently?

RiskelWillow:
I swear this guy is a certified mo.ron

Eruditor:
Those were your role players and yes the media was really hyping them. Some even said Lebron was going to be the MVP. Nothing could be further from the truth. All the "I won't underestimate Lebron" expired in 2017. Be real with yourself. If you were so sure about this team, why did you want Kawhi?

Eruditor:
I 100% agree with you.

The thing is, a lot of people get swayed by the media and in a way they direct the fear factor teams command. See how everyone feared the Bucks last season or the Lakers before the season began.

Nobody said that Lakers squad was not good. Shows ran themes asking if the Lakers team could take GSW to game 7. A useless team that did not even make the playoffs.

Eruditor:
The lakers do not suck. They are better than they were last season how much better is what I don't agree with most journalists or even people here.

The best team in the NBA currently is the Clippers. The next best team, as things stand, between Philly and the Rockets. The third best team is most likely the Bucks. The long and short of it is, even in the west, the Lakers are at best 4th or 5th.