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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=655854.msg8223126#msg8223126 date=1304011383]Oh I get you ppl confuse.

Well, welcome to the NL Yoruba family. They wont believe you for a while tho lol.

Have you guys ever thought of taking back Kwara from the clutches of Saraki?[/quote]I have always supported Kwara joining SW but as thing stands now the people of Kwara ti di aboki ka le. There is nothing we can do about that.

seanet02:
Na lie go kill you, Omo Saraki Oloye fro NL!!
Wetin happen for Ilorin Now?

Mo ki'n se omo Saraki. Omo isa ile eko gidi ni mi. Bi o fe bi o ko Omo yoruba ni mi
Whether you like it or not, I am a yoruba man and i see thinks from a clear point of view. Ki ni Tinubuti se for yin gan to ti je pe e fe pa ara yi fun. Yes fashola ti se dada sugbo Tinubu ole ni. Baba mi omo ACN ni te le sugbo PDP lo wa ni sin.

Now there is no reason to lie, if you know lagos politics then we can debate. Do you know baba jammu

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=655854.msg8223067#msg8223067 date=1304010770]POC: Step1 is an Ekiti man. Not Igbo lol


Hmmm green tea is yummy.[/quote]LOL

No my sister, I am an Awori man from Lagos. My father is Awori and my mother is egba(abeokuta)/kwara.

Eko Ile:
Shut up and stop lying, you are ibo, nna.

Okay I am igbo by your standard and is there anything wrong in being igbo. My friend, I do not have to disclose personal information on a public forum. I have told you the truth and the minds of the people. Now your job is act on it.

Gbawe:
No problem.  I personally do not think Remi Tinubu can be the Governor of lagos State. Fashola will have a say because , after two terms, he will be a very important stakeholder . Naturally , Fashola will be routing for his own 'understudy' and Tinubu should understand that concept since Fashola was Tinubu's own understudy groomed to take over and continue with the policy drives and developmental initiatives of the Tinubu regime.

Tinubu should not get carried away. Rather , issues should now be about consolidating on the gains made instead of ego fights that can cause implosion . I expect Fashola to do well in his second term with many projects completed successfully . It would not be wise for Tinubu to make an enemy of a man who is the good face of the ACN bringing in votes and popularity for the Party. Any wrong move could see the ACN stock plummet badly . Tinubu is no fool . Neither is he a supreme bully ala OBJ determined to get his way even if serious damage ensues  .

Okay sir well understood. Thank you

seanet02:
It's a pity my Ibo brothers will not accept the Political supremacy of the Southwest.
@bolded1: What are the qualifications for contesting for a Governorship position?
@bolded2: What makes her corrupt? Has she been convicted or you are just running your mouth like a leaking tap?
@Bolded3: What makes her husband a corrupt man when he has not been convicted of any shady deals like you are blabbing here?
It is a pity you ethnic bigots will not reason beyond ethnic sentimentality!!
What do you expect from an ibo man sha?

It sucks to be Ibo for real!!

First of all, it is spelt as igbo not ibo. I hope you are not referring to me as igbo because you are not more yoruba than me and my family members are in lagos politics. Also my surname is in the long lineage of oba's in Lagos. So I am not talking as an ignorant person here.

Now to your points, Tinubu can has already impose his family on Lagos which is okay by all standards but he will take it too far by imposing his wife as the new governor. That's all

enough said

Eko Ile:
Must you constantly prove that you're incapable of reading and comprehending?

Is saying Tinubu doing what Awo couldn't do when he was alive any form of comparison? Or was Awo able to unify the west before he passed? Learn how to separate facts from comparison.


Get over yourself with your silly and misguided outrage, you are too shallow for your own good.

People like you make me laugh. Please stop making analogies with Tinubu and Awolowo, be it a comparison or an argument. What so ever the reason please and please do not talk about Tinubu and Awolowo in the same discussion. Thank you

Gbawe:
It is funny how it is those with serious comprehension deficit who are usually very rude. I have only argued that Remi Tinubu's right to contest for any position cannot be taken away from her. I have not said I want her as Governor. In fact read my responses above again , slowly , and it will be clear I think she has a poor chance of becoming Governor of Lagos even with Her husband's clout considered .

Ok, now I understand. I just wanted to clear things up because I was getting the wrong impression from you and eko-ile wanting to support Remi as the next governor. Please accept my apology egbon mi.

Eko Ile:
There's a lot of BS in your post.

To start with, I'm not clamoring for nobody, this is about her rights to pursue her dreams as a Lagosian. You can not take that rights away from her.

Is the ACN even talking about making her the state governor?

Also about the foolish, mindless and pointless talk about you liking  Fashola, but not the ACN.

Who gave us Fashola?

Is Fashola's not functioning under ACN's platform and manifesto?

What about the many transformations we love Fashola for? Are they not designed by Tinubu himself via ACN transformation philosophy?

Lagos is not a PDP state because of one man, Tinubu

Fashola is sucessful because one man gave him a platform and road map to work with and that man is Tinubu

Why are we celebrating the liberation of the SW and a renewed hope today because of one man and that man is Tinubu.

You sound a like a PDP goon talking crap,

Let's not get carried away, Tinubu deserve way way more than this silly and ungrateful trash talk, the man is staking his life for the whole region  and achieving for us what many and even Awo couldn't before he passed.

Rubbish !!!
You are even comparing Tinubu to Awolowo. What arrogance is being displaced here. From your post I can see there is no reason to reply to you since you can even think of comparing Tinubu with Awolowo.

Lagosboy:
Nothing will happen if Remi becomes governor, no head will roll.

We want Remi in 2015 as ACN candidate.

We shall see about that, I just want to make it clear that there will be no Remi 2015.

gernded:
The governorship must come down to Mushin and it must be SOLOMON OR BANIRE

There is no zoning in Lagos. The best candidate wins.

Those of you clamouring for Remi Tinubu 2015, I just want to make somethings clear. There is absolutely no way Remi would be the governor of Lagos state 2015 and beyond because she is not qualified and also corrupt like her husband Tinubu. The reason I and millions of lagosians can tolerate tinubu now is because of one soul called Fashola. Once that person is out of ACN that is it for them. Gbawe and Eko-ile, I just want to explain to you people that you are jokers and I am sure you people are not serious of Remi 2015. I mean what insult.

My father is a PDP member (an ACN defector) in Lagos but my family still voted for Fashola not because of his in ACN but because we like the man and it is for the progress of the yoruba race. Now bring Remi is just taking it too far, just too far. Let me just make it clear to you people if Remi becomes the Governor, people would take to the streets and the state will become ungovernable for her and her family.

I would advice those that are non-indigene of Lagos at that time(non yorubas) to go to their fathers land because "head go roll" and there will political killings and blood shed like no other in the SW especially Lagos. I am sure we do not want to lose everything we have worked for over the years. It is annoying to see well educated young men encouraging "godfatherism" absolutely shameful.

pawa4ul:
I tot that Nijas have grown far above this bullshit level that these Ibos and Yorubas are exhibiting in this thread. For speaking out loud, we should talk about the topic and be happy for the performing Gov-FRB. L[b]agos is not just a yoruba state, but a national one[/b]. That is why we need ppl like Fashola to govern the state. That should be our focus. We should spend more time praying for him and not these bullshit that you low-brains are doing here.
Get busy guys!

Excuse me sir, but u just displayed ignorance there sir by saying Lagos is not a Yoruba state. I want to ask you one question, is Kano state a Hausa/Fulani state or not?

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=653960.msg8201592#msg8201592 date=1303746938]yes, could be his parents from osun also.[/quote]Maybe

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=653960.msg8201522#msg8201522 date=1303746302]tinubu is lagosian.

his grandfather was osun or ogun.[/quote]Tinubu's parents are from Osun and I think his wife is from Kogi or so, not really sure

2mch:
Alj Harem?

What happened to him ?

Fhemmmy:
A Lagosian should be anyone that resides in Lagos and not about where you were born . . . .that is what developed nations does, but Nigeria is about where you were born, and not even that but where your parents were born, or worse still, where you father was born.

Imagine someone that has never been to Kaduna and yet has to be refereed to as someone from Kaduna all cos the father was born in Kaduna, such person cant go to Kaduna to contest for office and where he resides wont let him, cos his father is not from there.

These are some the things that has to be stopped.

Yes you are right but that only works in an ideal society where MEND, OPC, MASSOB and Awera do not exist. From the inception those this groups, Nigeria has been divided into nations within a Nation.

Now if a kaduna son was born in Lagos and lived all his life in lagos, learns the language which is yoruba, knows the way of life, dress like a YORUBA then he can contest and rule as he wishes. You cannot expect some random person to just come and rule a people that do not like him.

A Lagosian is anyone that is born in lagos; but we are talking about this {"are you just born in lagos thus you are lagosian or are do you feel and act like a proper lagosian"} there is a difference there you see. You can spend 100 years in lagos and yet not feel like a lagosian.

sunch:
@step1, this is sure the most incisive statement i've ever come across up in here.
I wld say even the said yorubas that are claiming 'awa ni a l' eko'(we own lagos), does not even knw nuffin about lagos itself. All they are after is getting crowded in what is slipping them off wit time. If as an individual u dnt knw where your people were coming frm and where they are heading, u're more or less a visionless leader. And whìch is prevalent in Lagos

the bolded question

YES

sunch:
@baslone,
Going by hìstory, the Oba of Lagos has his root from benin, edo state. That's the reason why before any coronation of any Oba in Lagos, he must firstly go down to benin city to pay homage to the Oba of Benin. Meaning without the agreement of the Oba of Benin their can never be an Oba in Lagos. Benin, Edo state is seen as the their first home. While the other chiefs, baales, obas in suburb of lagos are not lagosians

Yes most certainly but the oba of lagos is a pure yoruba man. Oyinkan was my family friend and he can trace his root to benin but now he is yoruba.

sunch:
@step1, this is sure the most incisive statement i've ever come across up in here.
I wld say even the said yorubas that are claiming 'awa ni a l' eko'(we own lagos), does not even knw nuffin about lagos itself. All they are after is getting crowded in what is slipping them off wit time. If as an individual u dnt knw where your people were coming frm and where they are heading, u're more or less a visionless leader. And whìch is prevalent in Lagos

Any yoruba living in lagos does not need to know where he originally came from. My father is a lagos . He is a brazilian Awori originally but with some ijaw blood and my mother is an offa/egba woman from Kwara. If my mother claims she is a lagosian, that is within her rights to do so. I have cousins who are Ebga people from Abeokuta and when they came to lagos, they called their friends and said "omo eko ni mi" (I am a lagosian). Other ethnic groups cannot tell the difference whether he is Awori or not. That is the beauty of being a yoruba in Nigeria. This is not tribalism, it is more like a yorkshire man going to London and claim he was an indigene of London but me as a black man would not know the difference. Of course the true yorubas can identify the difference if he is Awori or not but as things stand now, no one cares.

If an igbo person has lived in lagos all his live and understands yoruba and the way of life then he is entitle to whatever lagos has to offer. The only problem he might be facing is his name and the way he acts in public, not that i am a tribalist here but being a lagos politican and wearing a red hat and other eastern stuff is a bit strange and annoying. If a man is named CHUKWU EMEKA but every other thing is yoruba about him even to way to communicates to the people, then by all mean he is free to rule so long as he does well. You have to remember no one like other groups ruling them and his tenure would not be really easy for him because of his background unless he does a lot better than his predecessors.

Many igbos, SS and hausas as of today claim OMO EKO  because they act and behave like lagosian which is very cool, but in times of crisis the yorubas can identify them from the indigenes very easily because of the way they speak and other stuffs like asking them about there background which every true son and daughter of yourba should know. Most of us living in lagos love other ethnic groups in lagos because it brings a bit of diversity of language and culture. There are some parents (mostly igbos and ijaws) that would not let there children learn yoruba because they view it as colonisation or they just hate the language because it is not english. Well it is sad because such children better relocate to other parts of the country. The reason for this is that such children can not buy easily without being swindled or bullied in the public life of lagos.

Lagos is a rough city where individuals have to be smart and be on there toes unlike port harcount or abuja. Of couse it would be easier if they learn yoruba, pidgin english and learn the way of life in a city like lagos.

Talking about politics, aworis would prefer any other yoruba to rule them than any other person from another group. For example Tinubu and his wife are not lagosian but yet they are loved. The chairman of my local government is from Ekiti and he is ruling another from kwara etc; but of course other ethnic groups cannot know the difference if he is awori or not.

So in summary, Lagos is a city that defines yorubas as an ethnic group. It is a city that make an ekiti man feel yoruba, it is a city that makes an ondo or kogi man feel yoruba, It is a city that make igbos see the yoruba way of life but this has be diluted a bit due to the diversity   . All in all it is a city that makes everyone feel Nigerian from hausa, igbo, ijaw to yoruba. A city for all.

sunch:
Must it be so ?

Certainly not

zstranger:
^^^^

Simple: Lagos is for Yorubas.

Any Yoruba man is welcome. Kapish.

If you are not Yoruba, you can NEVER be a Lagosian

Rude but well said

At topic

It is no secrets that other yorubas from other states can come to Lagos and act and behave like indigenes. It is no hard feelings, yorubas are intermixing so every yorubas from ekiti to kogi/edo can come together and speak 1 dialect of yoruba. That is what lagos is to us, more like a melting point for all yorubas.

Of course other ethnic group can be politically relevant, I have no problem about that. The only problem I think the mass (other yorubas) have is if he can't speak yoruba and act like one. To act like yorubas is not to eat "amala and ewedu" No it is far from it. To act yoruba is an ideology, a way of thinking. Of course not all yorubas think the same way but majority of masses think along the same direction which is development or what we call "being a progressive". Now the question in your mind might be " We are all progressives no matter the ethnic group, we all wants development etc" but the reality is that everyone wants development but through which root (way). For some people like the northerners, it is Islamic education and military programs to employ their people, the east and is through "get rich or die trying" mentality and individualism the SS is through crude oil where there lives begins and ends there . Any of this groups can not be honest with themselves and ask "what do the people want ? " all they want is presidency and who rule next. This why it is very unlikely for a non-yoruba to become political relevant in Lagos a yoruba state.

There are some igbos that are becoming political relevant in lagos as of today through appointments and others but that is about it. I have heard that igbos are 65% of lagos population, then if they are they can become the governor next week and secure there position in the state.

As igbos coined it "lagos is a no mans land" if so then they should rule lagos through their population. As for the yorubas from other states, you can not identify them from the Awori so what gives it is a total waste of time to try to separate the non-indigenes from the indigenes because they speak yoruba and act the same way.

All in all, Lagos is for all ethnic groups at home and abroad.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=650737.msg8173285#msg8173285 date=1303318687]^-- Main thing is to make sure that the power distribution company is sold to a reliable buyer. We can then expand the current offshore NG barges off the coast of Lagos. Generates 270MW of power currently; unfortunately forced to be routed to the entire national grid.

If privatization occurs, we can power the entire region in under 5 years. These things don't take forever, if you do it correctly.[/quote]What we have though is that we make an artificial dam in river Osun, buy turbines and make it work. On the second thought, there are turbines that can work under large water bodies eg Atlantic ocean couple with the Eko atlantic. We can use this to generate electricity as well. I am a reseach student and I calculated that it is very possible and economical valuable.

Also assuming it is not, we can start looking at coal in Ogun and Oil in lagos and Ondo to use thermal energy. All this are options that can be done under the current situation of this country but Nigerians are not ready for such.

One of the problems we encountered was how to get enough capital to power the SW power sector. The solution we though off was to start this company in Abuja and Osun or Ekiti because of the low population and high population wealthy people. By such, we can generate enough capital to build more power plans  for Nigeria and SW in particular.

My team consist of igbos BTW so he also suggested to start in Lagos but I though he is not being realistic because the population of Lagos and the amount of houses in Lagos can not be supported when starting.

Yorubas if Nigeria does not provide SW with contant electricity by 2020, we would have to take our destiny into our hands by providing it for ourselves just like Globacom and multilinks did. I am currently working with my other colleagues on how to achieve this in a cheap and efficient way. Any ideas would be welcome and appreciated.

Atila1:
did d sw vote 4 Jonathan? NO!
Are d yorubas d only tribe residing in d sw? NO
who voted 4 Jonathan? Other tribes n geopolitical zones residing in d sw. The SOUTH EAST, SOUTH SOUTH, MIDDLE BELT, NORTHERN CHRISTIANS!
In lagos, 6 mil registered, 2 mil voted. Wat happened 2 4 mil people? It was d same in all sw states.
D sw was divided bw ribadu n those who decided 2 sit at home!
Sw never voted Jonathan!

You people should please stop saying rubbish. I am yoruba living in lagos and i voted jonathan so did my family and millions of others. So do more research befor you post

MaziUche0:
Someone said you all were not parasites. Enjoying Niger Delta oil? 

What is Niger-delta ?

Niger-delta is a geographical expression used in Nigeria to bakalize the yorubas and igbos from there ancestry land. This was done to make the northerners remain in power by means of population figures and other tactics employed by them to get crude oil from the stu.pid people in sure geographical space especially the ijaws


In the Niger-delta, we have ilaje, Itsekiri and other yoruboid groups, so I do not think it is parasitic at all to get sure oil since it is ours by conventional right.

MaziUche0:
Can you really blame them? You can blame Pa Awolowo for that mistrust. Somebody who you all hold with such high esteem.

And when did Yorubas start trusting Igbos? That is something new. Yorubas trust no one!

I have every right to blame them. I have try to see the wrong Awolowo did by being objective but I have found none. Lets us not go back to war talk right now the problem with SE is that they think SW people are out to get them which a very wrong notion. The sooner Igbos start trusting other groups the better it is. The last time yorubas trusted a group, they were betrayed by Nnamdi Azikiwe who was igbo by ethnicity.

MaziUche0:
But let us all be serious. . .

The Yoruba need the rest of the South in order to leave the union. It is as simple as that.

Rightly or wrongly, the nation has to be recognized as a sovereign nation. If you all are not recognized by the world, technically, you are not a nation. Look at the autonomous region of Puntland in Somalia. They have a functioning government but they are not recognized. Maybe you all should think about it.

The international community will recognize a country made up of the Niger Delta faster than a Yoruba nation that serves no strategic value.

You are joking right !

We do not care about ND because we are not parasites as you people coined it. We do not care about oil or anything in the ND. The ND can all F off for all we care. How can there be a nation if they all just depend on crude oil, well it shows the kind of people we have in Nigeria (low brainers). If the east what unity, then they should trust us in every decision we make that's all.

MaziUche0:
The Igbo youth. . .

If it was up to our parents, they would never allow us to trust the Yorubas. Maybe for good reasons though.  

This is one of the reasons parents need to stop teaching there children hate against other groups. Most igbos don't trust us because of the 1960's war but the reason is so annoying and stu.pid it make me sick. The sooner igbos trust yorubas then the better it is. Igbos in lagos are trusting yorubas until the JJC called chief Uche came to talk about the politics of Lagos. Trust the yorubas as they have trusted you and you would see change and unity.

MaziUche0:
These Yorubas are blowing their own horns again!  

NO

There is no horn blowing. If you people whether hausa, igbo, ijaw or whatever think you can insult yorubas and get away with it then it is a lie. No point in me telling you how the south would unite because it would not and that is the reality. Until you people stop mentioning yorubas or SW in your ethnically bigoted post then there will still be "blowing of horns". We have igbos in SW carbinet and yet people like you open your big mouth to call us this and that. If there is ever going to be unity between yorubas and igbos then igbos need to trust us and not rush in making decisions.

htajz:
what are you waiting ? the moment we met you and the hausa was the moment everything went wrong in the niger delta, parasites our once rich culture and heritage have been bastardized cause of you  vampires.

LOL

As you can see, you have hate in yourself. This is what they call self hatered. Niger-delta have different groups in it which range from yoruba, ileja, itsekiri, edo and many others. This groups have yorubas in them and thus, yorubas can use them to sneak in to the ND. The current governor of Delta state is itsekiri, thus he is working under afenifere. The best option for ND is to try and work with us in the Nigeria as you can see what the EDOs are doing. The sooner you try to work with us, the better it is you people

MaziUche0:
Lagos will remain a city state though. SW is going no where with Lagos.  

Igbos and Niger Deltans have a direct claim to that city.

Look my igbo friend do not be deceived and I am sure this is not the first time you are hearing it. What is happening in Lagos is BRAIN DRAIN. If igbos or SS people claim Lagos no one will stop them, do you know why ?
They are loud mouths. If it was an hausa man that said what you just said, then I would be more alert to the possibility of they claiming lagos and as you can see the yoruba fought back in 2002.
As for the Ijaws claiming lagos, it is just so funny to likes like me. I have an Ijaw middle name myself but I am a full born yoruba now and no Ijaw can claim me or my people (go check the connection between ijaws and awori). This what they call "yorubanization" and trust me they are likes like me all over lagos ranging from tapa, ijaw, ibibio and igbos. The more you people try to claim lagos, the better it is for the yoruba nation. Edwin clark and Ojukwu have already seen this and that is why they want violence to start in lagos so as to remove the economic power from there to port harcount. Unfortunatly for them, yorubas can account for 40% of the population in Rivers state as we speak now. The governors name is ROTIMI AMECHE, this just shows how River state politics is being played out by the elites.
We yorubas are not tribalist but if you think you can be ethnocentric on them, then you are undoing yourself. Just come to SW mix with the locals and we are fine with it.