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The world was not any different before the introduction of religious books. This is where Atheists think it is a gotcha. No it isn't. Same as saying religion has caused more death or suffering. Lol. budaatum: |
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An elected officer should have no authority over traditional matters. This rubbish has to end. No one has yet spoken up against it because of their atenuje |
This reminds me a story. He knew she didn't care for him because he wasn't a good person. Fast forward to when she begged him to marry another wife. He found it disrespectful, an affront on his masculinity. He was so livid that it was shocking. ![]() pocohantas: |
I get that now. He is looking for others to join him, to join him in his misguidance. doffman: |
Now I get why he is obsessed with lies, Islam must be seen as paganism by fore and by fire. doffman: |
I love the way Qur'an addresses those rhetorical questions. They think think it is gotcha moment and the Qur'an is like not so fast. doffman: |
First, basic Islamic education: All messengers were sent to deliver messages, some to their families, others to their nations only BUT ONLY the prophet was sent to the world. That verse is reference to all other messengers We know this how because: ![]() And We have sent you (O Muhammad SAW) not but as a mercy for the Alameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists)” [al-Anbiya’ 21:107] "And We have not sent you except comprehensively to mankind as a bringer of good tidings and a warner. But most of the people do not know." Surah Saba (34:28) "This is a Book We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] so that you may bring mankind out of darkness into the light by permission of their Lord—to the path of the Exalted in Might, the Praiseworthy." Surah Ibrahim (14:1) "Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner." Surah Al-Furqan (25:1) "Say, [O Muhammad], 'O mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, from Him to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. There is no deity except Him; He gives life and causes death.' So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered prophet, who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him that you may be guided." Surah Al-A'raf (7:158) God knowing how evil some of you are, he already replied your question: "And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, 'Why are its verses not explained in detail? Is it a foreign [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]?' Say, 'It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure.'" "And if We had revealed it to one among the non-Arabs, and he had recited it to them, they would still not have been believers." Surah Al-Shu'ara (26:198-199) I replied because of others who wants to be guided, not for your sake. By the way, it is the only religious text whose original language has been maintained since the time of revelation for over than 2000 years. People all over the world learn Quranic arabic (different from mainstream Arabic and other dialects ). People have walked thousand of miles before cars and planes just to learn Quranic Arabic. A flex! God did that . UncleAyo: |
This is the reason such thing as your friends cannot marry their friends divorced wives or husbands will be considered bullshit in Islam. . Can my friend marry my exes? Yes and yes again. You don't own people unless God says otherwise Again with righteous hypocritical western lenses Zaid wasn't the prophet's son nor was he Khadijah's son ![]() He used to be a Khadijah's slave (bought for her by her nephew) and was free and adopted into the family. He was also close in age to the prophet, I can't remember by how many years. He died as a martyr. May God be pleased with him. In your wisdom, did you finish the verse: ...so that there would be no blame on the believers for marrying the ex-wives of their adopted sons after their divorceIn Islam, adopted children are not blood. If I had an adopted brother, I could marry my adopted brother. This is the reason such thing as you friends cannot marry their friends divorced wives or husbands in Islam will be bullshit. ![]() This is my last reply to you. You don't want to learn and you keep jumping back and forth between points [quote UncleAyo post=133651244]Since you want us to quote from the quran Quran 33:37 وَإِن كُنتُنَّ تُرِدْنَ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ وَٱلدَّارَ ٱلْـَٔاخِرَةَ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ أَعَدَّ لِلْمُحْسِنَـٰتِ مِنكُنَّ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًۭا ٢٩ يَـٰنِسَآءَ ٱلنَّبِىِّ مَن يَأْتِ مِنكُنَّ بِفَـٰحِشَةٍۢ مُّبَيِّنَةٍۢ يُضَـٰعَفْ لَهَا ٱلْعَذَابُ ضِعْفَيْنِ ۚ وَكَانَ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ يَسِيرًۭا ٣٠ "So when Zaid had performed the necessary formality ( of divorce) from her, we (ie Allah) gave her unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons, when the later have performed the required formality ( of release) from them. The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled. (Al Hilali et al)" The same Allah that formalised marriage between a father (Muhammed) and the wife of his son who is still alive can never be the Eledumare, God or Yaweh that other claim to worship.[/quote] |
None of them has ever opened the Qur'an to study. First, they hate Islam and Muslims Second, they shop around to copy and paste what others say about Islam and Muslims. No fact checking or further studying. Garbage in, garbage out. They are not coming from a place of knowledge and sincerity. It is a waste. Please bow out doffman: |
You will soon tell God that Daniel is also an idol worshipper You know the best part of this; you have a lot to say for people that don't pray thrice a day facing Jerusalem as instructed. Want to know what the Jews call you? Pagans Want to know what they call us? not pagans. ![]() AntiisIam: |
You love to hear the sound of your voice ![]() Stop Yoruba Muslims and Christinas from using Olohun, Olodumare and Oluwa Go and change the Arabic language, Arabic Quran and the Arabic Bible Good day! [quote author=UncleAyo post=133650387][/quote] |
Pick a Qur'an and read. Better than being a copy and paste lazy bum ![]() Dsimmer: |
It is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the breasts that are blind. When someone have chosen misguidance and arrogance, no one can save them. doffman: |
@UncleAyo I have you the reason why Kaaba is such a big deal. But no critical thinking about that just straight to another copy and paste talking point. FYI: Muslims that pray solat daily declare "There is no god except one God " more than 6 times a day. And as for the true believers when God declares something They reply with 'we hear and we obey' so whether Kaaba makes sense or not to you, we don't worship Kaaba - one way ticket to hell in Islam. We hear and we obey with the ritual of it and that is about it. Plus a significant portion of the Qur'an is filled with God demanding us to shun other gods except one God and worship him alone. You would know this if you weren't lying about reading the Qur'an So you can argue with yourself about the idolatry, na your headache be that. You will soon go and fight Jews for facing Jerusalem every time they pray too. |
Quran isn't proof that the prophet learned monotheism. It is the biggest miracle to him from God. Till date, no record of anyone accusing him of ever being a Jew , Christian, a student and a scholar. The learnerd population was very small. For someone to have come up with a book like the Qur'an he would have been learned, a genius and KNOWN. We would know. Catholic Fathers would know. Rabbis would know. They would have written about it because his life and death are very recent and we have records from back then . And There are many things that are in the Qur'an never to be found into the bible. I don't care if it is the only Qur'an that mentions it. The people of Arab traces their root to Ishmael before the prophet. Ishmael story isn't extensively Jews or children of Israel to tell. So I don't care. Every time someone uses the word primitive. I realised how westernised they are. Garbage in garbage out. The western world and it's values have convinced you there is a way things should be. Guess what? They don't follow it with their interests at stake! They will murder and kill your entire family for greed. It is 2024 with no original thought. So no, I don't take my values from hypocrites. Anyways it is alien to my culture as a Muslim and a Yoruba woman. Funny thing, no one called him primitive or barbaric then for his actions and inactions except genius of the 21st century like you . So maybe you are suffering from a 21st century I know better because I am civilised virus. Call it idolatry, na your headache be that. All I know is that Dem never born any Muslim well to declare to worship Kaaba...na hell fire UncleAyo: |
Islamic Crescent Symbol Have you researched on how the crescent moon came to be a symbol for Islam before writing this epistle? Fun fact: It came years after the prophet Muhammad's death. The Byzantine (Christians) used the crescent to represent Constantinopole (Istanbul) and when the Ottoman empire took over the islamic world they decided to use it to represent Islam with stars as well Why? Christians had their own symbol (the cross) and the Jews had star of David so they decided to use the moon and the stars. Also, Muslims rely on lunar calendar a lot so it fits. You will never find the symbol for the moon in a any correspondences of the Prophet's or his companions today. Pictures are out there on Google. find it! To be a critic, you start with knowledge of both sides not one sided knowledge especially not from idiots. It shows intellectually laziness. You can do better, there are islamaphobia websites with a weak attempt at stronger arguments. |
We don't deny the above oga. It shows how little you know. First place of worship to One God However, the Qur'an states that it is the first place of worship demarcated for one God. "Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Makkah - blessed and a guidance for the worlds. In it are clear signs [such as] the standing place of Abraham. And whoever enters it shall be safe. And [due] to Allah from the people is a pilgrimage to the House - for whoever is able to find thereto a way. But whoever disbelieves - then indeed, Allah is free from need of the worlds."Pagan worship Over time people chose to worship pagans there (like how children of Israel turned back to idol worshiping despite God's obvious miracle) and when Islam got into Mecca, they destroyed all their pagan gods and left it open as a means to guide Muslims who pray. Abraham and Ishmael There was a period in time where Abraham and Ishmael raised the foundation and after doing to they made the following prayers And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, saying, 'Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who stay [for worship] and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer].'"Jerusalem then Mecca When Islam came, the prophet used to pray facibg Jerusalem until God directed the prophet to face Kaaba and it became as a central place of direction for all Muslims. "We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a Qibla with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward Al-Masjid Al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."Kaaba is not God And a Muslim that worships Kaaba will go to hell!!! because it is not God but a mere symbol and it unifies Muslims across all countries, languages and tribes. "So turn your face toward Al-Masjid Al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer] so that the people will have no argument against you, except for those of them who commit wrong; so fear them not but fear Me. And [it is] so I may complete My favor upon you and that you may be guided."Kidsing the black stone Kidsing the stone is NOT part of pilgrimage. There are many who have never kissed the stone will never kissed the stone and they have commited no sin and their pilgrimage is very valid. You would know if you researched why? Umar(one of the Prophet's closest companion) once saw the prophet kissed the stone and he did and some people now do it. Again, if you have chosen not to read the Qur'an or get basic Islamic knowledge. I will not waste time trying to teach you because you are not ready to learn. A man that shouts Allah means moon god in 2024 is irredeemable. If you have read the Qur'an, you won't be here lecturing me about Kaaba. Another fun fact for you: every hour every day, there is one person in the world praying facing towards Mecca. |
Give me a quran verse that says Muslim worship the moon god, mention the moon practices we do else quit the lies. FYI, if any person claiming to be muslim worships the moon. They are no longer muslim and it is one sin Allah/God/Olohun will never forgive on the day of account if fogiveness was not sought on earth. It is the most grievous sin against God in Islam. I bet you didn't know this, lazy liar! UncleAyo: |
I have told you to stop lying about reading the Quran or understanding Islam. You will never be one of those intellectual islamaphobes . I am waiting for you to reference a Quran verse about woshipping the moon god. It is coneninet how you have left that quote ![]() "And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them, if it should be Him that you worship." You want me to agree with someone who has presented no original thought but an old ignorant claim presented years before your grandfather was born and a claim is no longer presented by 99% of anti-Isam except a few foolish ones like the man. Don't you feel silly? UncleAyo: |
You read this then conclude that it is a moon god? "And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them, if it should be Him that you worship." If I called you a liar, copy and paste knowledge man, no original thought man, lazy thinker- you will say I am attacking. Where is the attack now? Every mention of Allah means God by the way. @UncleAyo |
You can't read the Qur'an and conclude on moon god. Are you dyslexic? UncleAyo: |
When AI is also smarter than you ![]() Yoruba pagans say Olohun to refer to the utmost God maybe Christians and Muslims should stop saying it too [quote author=UncleAyo post=133633706][/quote]
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1. Kaaba is the first place of worship erected to worship God. It unifies Muslim. If I visited Russia tomorrow, I and Russian Muslims WIL NOT disagree on what to say or where to face. I am surprised yourintellect can't comprehend this level of organisation 2. Just like Jews, Muslims once faced Jerusalem until God commanded to prophet to face Kaaba while praying. 3. Allah means God. No Arab person will tell you it means the moon god except an ignorant and copy and paste thinker. No original thought person 4. When we say "La ilaha illallah" Everyone knows it as "there is no god except one God". That is exactly how a non Muslim Arabi will interpret it as well. Except you that doesn't speak Arabic and again, copy and paste knowledge from non-arabic speakers 5. Maybe you should read the Qur'an first and read some Islamic books so you can have critical and intelligent points against islam not old copy and paste knowledge. Until you understand the religion and history, you need to shush. It is rude and doesn't speak well of your intellect. UncleAyo: |
I have already explained to you what is what. You will need to stop me as a Muslim from using Olohun, Oluwa or Olodumare first. Then commit to teaching Arabs their language, then move to rewritingbthe Qur'an and Bible. So it is an not attack you. It is a fact you are a lazy thinker, fixated and obssessed with a twisted opinion and you have refused to learn. You are claiming what early western Christians also said in ignorance. No sensible theologist or non Arab or non Muslim parrots this ignorance anymore except a lazy thinker like you. It is a past claim borne out of ignorance and you are insisting on your right to be ignorant. You don't want to learn. That is your headache. I have already told you what to do. UncleAyo: |
You are a lazy thinker. Even those early western Christians don't parrot this rubbish again in 2024. No, they won't curse for saying Olohun. What an Olodo! UncleAyo: |
What a liar! He knows the type of Almajiri people are worried about not those like him . |
UncleAyo You will have to stop all Christians and Muslim yorubas from using the word Olodumare, Oluwa and Olohun at this point. Then you will travel to Lebanon and Syria because they have one the highest Arab christian population and you will help them change the Bible where they referred to God as Allah. You will teach them their language. Because for the life of me I don't understand how a grown human, being is still parotting anti Muslim ignorant opinions heed by early western Christians who have no knowledge of Arabic and fully do not grasp the history and who seem to think all Arabas and Persians = Muslims. No original thought. |
"And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus, We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do." - Surah Al-An'am (6:108) Ringstonermasks: |
These philosophers weren't atheists and there are many religious philosophers in ISlam and Christianity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_philosophers OneOnland: |
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