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Christianity Etc › Re: Another Proof Of Eve's Adultery Is Men's Affinity For Polygamy/cheating by StillDtruth(op): 11:45am On May 01, 2024

Ken4Christ:
Which school did you attend? Or are you one of the product of the falling standard of education? I asked a question, 'who will wed them when they are the only two humans on earth'?. Please, answer the question and stop beating around the bush.

Are you blind and stupid? Or are you one of the products of the useless education people get?

During traditional and customary weddings all over the world, who weds the couple?

Is it the couple who we'd themselves?

As I said, if it is a Lie now you will easily eat it!

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist: Is There Any Evidence That David Took Saul's Wives ? by StillDtruth(op): 11:39am On May 01, 2024

FatherChrlsmas:
I am curious, how is polygamy being a human reality and coming before religion a proof of satan and success of his evil works??

Genesis :19, man for the first time through Lamech "took him 2 wives ".

Genesis 5:5 God saw that wickedness became great and every imagination/thought was evil and of course to do evil.

And who is happy that evil increases? Satan and atheists!

Who always wants evil increased and done?
Always Satan and atheists!

Christianity Etc › Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by StillDtruth: 11:30am On May 01, 2024

MiddleDimension:
All of these and still not able to answer thr simple quesyion @Westerhoffe put to you all: Show either through the bible, or through the engliah meaning of the word ''adultery'', that polygamy is adultery. You still cannot!

See how you are a Liar! Something I even over answered till the madman whom I did not know was mad then, confessed that I was right and I even raised up the thread about it especially as he ran away after that and did not come back for exactly a month. March 24 to April 24! grin

https://www.nairaland.com/8040571/westerhof-finally-confesses-adultery-polygamy#129086863

Come to think of it, his present madness worsened upon his return, clearly the Truth him madder

So see, you are an unrepentant Liar just like Satan and Satan is obviously your father.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist: Is There Any Evidence That David Took Saul's Wives ? by StillDtruth(op): 11:11am On May 01, 2024

FatherChrlsmas:
Polygamy is human reality. It comes first before religion.

True!

And that is one of the proofs of satan and the success of his evil work and schemings.

The whole world was full of polygamy even in Europe and the Americas, they too were polygmous.

Since Lamech opened the way, everyone born after that naturally followed the flow like people following coding and A.I and coded runs today.

So, if God wanted monogamy, He has a mountain taller and steeper than Everest to climb unaided.

And that is what is going on, hence the great resistance and anger and hatred by those who want to keep holding on to the old evil ways of living against the God Way of holiness and monogamy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist: Is There Any Evidence That David Took Saul's Wives ? by StillDtruth(op): 11:03am On May 01, 2024

especially as verse 8 shows

That Same statenent shows that God gave him;

1 master's house

2 master's wives

3 house of Israel

4 house of Judah

Yet it is only Number 2 you people see!

Are wives and houses not also in the houses of Judah and isreal?

So, if they were his as you claim then how come he got into trouble for taking one of the wives, since you say, God gave him?

And why do you not see him tell God, "i took her because i saw you gave every wife and woman in isreal and Judah to me?".

Christianity Etc › Polygamist: Is There Any Evidence That David Took Saul's Wives ? by StillDtruth(op): 10:57am On May 01, 2024

All you Adultery and Polygamy lovers relying o David and "gave thee thy master's wives"

is there any evidence that David took Saul's wives and had sex with them?

Or is there any evidence that he even went to Saul's house?

Or is there any evidence which shows him meeting with Saul's wives?

Or is there any evidence that he had a child from any of Saul's wives?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by StillDtruth: 10:29am On May 01, 2024

budaatum:
I was born an atheist and after encountering those who believe in gods and then researching gods myself, I discovered all gods were created by human beings.

See Madness!

Like atheism is a genetic and hereditary comdition babies are born with! Atheists and lies and madness, woman and satan.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by StillDtruth: 10:24am On May 01, 2024*

FRANCISTOWN:
Let's get this over with once and for all.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF ANY DEITY BECAUSE SUCH THINGS DO NOT EXIST.
I dare say deities do not exist. I can bet my two kidneys,my heart and my left testicle that deities do not exist.

I may not be able to speak for all atheists but below is the common ground for atheists.

Dont get it mixed up. Your believe is your believe and it need not be True in real eyeity, for you can very well believe that Peter Obi is the preseident of Nigeria and no one can make you believe otherwise.

So, it is not about your belief but what is True and what is proven

And i have proven God to you and other atheists and you could not give any valid answer, exactly what happened in these threads in proof of the existencr of spirit.

So, you atheists are left hanging on to whatever dreams you imagine or choose to imagine but the proof and Truth of God, is undisputably clearly seen and clear for all to see

Christianity Etc › Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by StillDtruth: 10:09am On May 01, 2024

otipoju:
Too many English. No substance. Let me leave you to you.

Na lie! You are just running away because you already know you cannot counter and that are lying against God and His Word!

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 10:05am On May 01, 2024

AbuTwins:
[b]David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives.

Of his own, God did not give him any of the 6, He took them on their own as a theif taketh what was not given him.

It was only Micah who God gave him so that he could be in position to take the Throne.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 9:47am On May 01, 2024

otipoju:
Menn na wa. You just dey jump from one argument to the other. Go read 1st Samuel 12 especially verse 7 to 9. Gods own words through the prophet Nathan.

He said I gave you your master's wives..if that was not enough and you wanted more, I would have given you more.

Na only master's wives God give am?did verse 8 not list them all out?

1 master's house

2 master's wives

3 house of Israel

4 house of Judah

Yet it is only Number 2 you see!

Are wives and houses not also in the houses of Judah and isreal?

So, if they were his as you claim then how come he got into trouble for taking one of the wives, since you say, God gave him?

And why do you not see him tell God, "i took her because i saw you gave every wife and woman in isreal and Judah to me?"

And you have not been able to answer since i have been asking you, so clearly, you have guys are Lying against God and profaning His Holy Name!

Christianity Etc › Re: Another Proof Of Eve's Adultery Is Men's Affinity For Polygamy/cheating by StillDtruth(op): 9:09am On May 01, 2024*

Ken4Christ:
You talk like someone on drugs. Who is going to wed them when they were the only humans on earth. Are you okay?

They had the express permission of God when God told them to go and multiply.

Are you trying to act comedy?

Another kneejerk!

Why do you speak so unwisely when you run into a fact you find unpleasant?

Is God not their Parent and Authority?

Which boyfriend/girlfiriend and Fiance/fiancee does not know that they have a right to have sex?

But hasn't The Law of Holiness prohibited them from having sex after they are duly wedded and put together by their Families and Authorities?

If you even ask true christians who kept themselves chaste and undefiled before marriage, you would see that they would tell you that satan did everything and threw everything to break them up and destroy God's Plans for them, even before they married

And it even apoears that, that was one of the hardest and worse times of their lives because of the different types of hot and evil, evils Satan wrought!

And do you not remember that before these evil days, it was said "Satan hates marriages and does everything to break the couple?"

Please, try to hold your intellligence, even.if you are met with something you do not like and find very unpleasant. If it was a lie now you won't react like this.

"People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them but sip only little by little at a truth they find bitter.'" Dennis Diderot

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 8:48am On May 01, 2024

otipoju:
Do you even know that Polygamy became mandatory for a man if his brother died? He was required by Jeswish custom to marry his brothers widow and sleep with her and have her have children.

Thank God you.said "Jewish custom" and not The Commandments.

And even at that, they were not compelled to marry her, the family just had a right of first refusal as shown by Ruth and Bioaz and Boaz was even a single man as it should be, if they wanted to be righteous.

otipoju:
Do you know that God punished by death someone who married his brothers widow but was cunningly avoiding to impregnate her?

Bro your knowledge about this thing is limited. Go and learn

Thank God you confirmed that he married her and from the look of it, they were single unmarried men just like Boaz.

And secondly, no where in the bible did you see God punishing a person for not marrying his brother's wife whether he was single or married, so sorry, you have nothing, yet again!

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 10:13pm On Apr 30, 2024

Petalss:
StillDtruth, please feel free to share your insights on the story involving David, Saul's wives, and God's intervention in their union.

Thank you!
A fair and proper examination of Nathan's speech shows God gave David

That Same statenent shows that "he inherited" as you say

1 master's house

2 master's wives

3 house of Israel

4 house of Judah

Yet it is only Number 2 people focus on!

Looking at No 1 and 2, does it not show the replacement of Saul, which God had told Samuel that He will do?

Consider, this when a king/president is removed from office, is it not that he shall return to his natural and God given place and home?

But here, do we not see that God has an ax to grind on Saul's head like APC going against PDP and Emefiele, that He replaced Saul

And He did not just stop there and let Saul's family go in peace but He destroyed Saul's house completely till almost no one was left.

So, No1 and 2 means that where before, it was David who would humble himself and bow before Saul and his wives and concubines as people will bow before Remi Tinubu and must respect his girlfriends, now power has changed hands as pastors used to say back then;

Now, it is they who must humble themselves and bow ro him as he once did to them which of course, if they were properly retired, they wont as you see, ex presidents and their wives do meet with the incubent president and neither do they bow low. They just pay dur respect to each other as former kings plus present king.

But God did not want this for Saul, so.He brought Saul's household to their knees.

So, it was a glow-ry to David but a punishment and disgrace to Paul's House and former queens.

So, no sex there, only humiliation and dsgrace of Saul's house

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 9:29pm On Apr 30, 2024

otipoju:
No way. Stop twisting.

Saul was dead. David inherited his wives. Saul was not alive.

That Same statenent shows that "he inherited" as you say

1 master's house

2 master's wives

3 house of Israel

4 house of Judah

Yet it is only Number 2 you see!

Are wives and houses not also in the houses of Judah and isreal?

So, if they were his as you claim then how come he got into trouble for taking one of the wives, since you say, God gave him?

nd why do you not see him tell God, "i took her because i saw you gave every wife and woman in isreal and Judah to me?"

otipoju:
David slept and impregnated Bathsheba when Uriah was alive. ( he was already married to multiple women and already had many children from various wives and concubines) before meeting bathsheba.

His sin was adultery and murder. Not polygamy.

So you confirm that Davud did commit adultery in breach of Sections 13, 14 and 17 of God's Commandments!

Then you confirm that he seriously broke The Laws by being a serial adulterer and bigamist which is polygamy

bigamy. noun. big·a·my ˈbi-gə-mē : the crime of marrying someone while already married to someone else.

Polygamy
Polygamy is the practice of marrying multiple women.

So you see, you yourself have described and listed out David's crimes which break The Law.

Christianity Etc › Re: Another Proof Of Eve's Adultery Is Men's Affinity For Polygamy/cheating by StillDtruth(op): 9:07pm On Apr 30, 2024

Ken4Christ:
How were they supposed to multiply if they were not supposed to have sex?

By proper marriage!

Looking at the fact that potential husbands and wives are supposed to stay chaste and undefiled till they are properly joined together in marriage by their authorities and guardians to wit their parents and family, retrospectively, God also planned on doing that on them since He and His People were their Parents and Guardians and Family.

So, a First Big Wedding should have taken place and after that wedding, they would have been free to have sex and give birth to pure God like children.

So they obviously were at the premarriage stage (fiance/fiancee) before satan struck through female Adm and obliterated God's Plans!

Now you can see that see that cheating/fornication first took place in the garden and why the bible and Christianity emphasizes on chastity and no defilement before marriage.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Endorsed Polygamy And Most Great Icons In The Bible Had Many Wives! by StillDtruth: 6:34pm On Apr 30, 2024

Great icons according to man but all of them sinned AND FAILED!

And none of them made God's Standard where He called them "PERFECT" AND" JUST"

ONLY NOAH, JOB AND DANIEL

AND NOAH AND JOB HAD ONLY ONE WIFE!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Give David The Wives Of His Master, Saul? by StillDtruth: 6:04pm On Apr 30, 2024

FayaBall:
Let it be done to them as they desire to do to another.

Amen!

God don already Answer!

Na wetin dey happen dese days dat na why dem dey fear to marry! grin

Soon oneday wife no go dey for dem to thief! grin

More adulterous killermamas to dia twisted joysticks! grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by StillDtruth: 6:04pm On Apr 30, 2024

The 2 mad men meet! grin

New madman meets old madman above! grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 5:59pm On Apr 30, 2024

FayaBall:
Valid question.

And no normal person don come answer am!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Give David The Wives Of His Master, Saul? by StillDtruth: 5:58pm On Apr 30, 2024

FayaBall:
How? Dey born am well?

People do not think from that view but they love the view of taking other people's wives as it pleases them.

The power of sex (lust) is what is fuelling them. And as you see, it is only men who are powered by this madness up to the point that they cannot see pass their dicks!

Horrny hungry devils!

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 5:54pm On Apr 30, 2024

FayaBall:
Leave am for madness coastal highway to Calabar, abeg.

I don leave am make he dey play out hin madness.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Give David The Wives Of His Master, Saul? by StillDtruth: 5:52pm On Apr 30, 2024

FayaBall:
To serve as protector over them for that is what it means to be King.

Being king, everyone including his predecessor's wife is under his protection hence the word "into your arms" and not to your bed as everyone imagines.

Hence why he was punished by God for taking Uriah's wife to be his.

As tinubu is king of Nigeria, does it mean he can come and take anybody's wife?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Give David The Wives Of His Master, Saul? by StillDtruth: 5:50pm On Apr 30, 2024

Daejumong:
2 Sam 12: 7-8
7 This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: `I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul.
8 I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms. I gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you more.

Full discourse below
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/9NnB2jTbekjjeT8L/?

How many things did God give?

1 master's house

2 master's wives

3 house of Israel

4 house of Judah

Yet it is only Number 2 you adulterous people see!

Are wives and houses not also in the houses of Judah and isreal?

Does that not clearly show that this is talking about kingdom and rule over the land and people of Israel

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 5:43pm On Apr 30, 2024

Westerhoffe:
...All your accusations against GOD are grievous acts of blasphemy and ridicule against the Almighty. You should be editing your comments instead of trying to condemn GOD to justify yourself.

Comparing GOD to Nigeria police still shows you're really dumb honestly.
If not that you're just so daft, how many years have David had his wives and their children? Why didn't GOD intervene and speak to him against them?

Why did GOD rather act so speedily when Uriah's wife was taken?[/b]

See it Madness Unlimited!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 5:27pm On Apr 30, 2024

Beautifulday:
You dignified dumbness and made Olodo special by associating them with that guy.

If you were so inteligent, why did you not show your brilliance and give me one answer that i can never rebut instead of alligning with a mad person and insalting me from the cover of darkness?

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 5:24pm On Apr 30, 2024

Beautifulday:
Saul was dead before David inherited his wife. I no wan follow that guy line of thought.

It is dumb to think, Israel doesn't have culture. Like you no one marries a dead kings wife except a king.

Would you marry your bosses wives, whether you were single or married?

Is it reasonable to do so?

Have you seen anyone do that?

Before David do.you see anyone who did that?

After David, do you see anyone who did that?

Then, how do you imagine that an inteligent and normal person like David would do such a thing?

Would your wife, in her right senses allow you to marry another woman?

If you knew God you would have known that He can never grant a prayer of coveting someone's wife

Nor would He grant a prayer of greed and lust!

Christianity Etc › Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by StillDtruth: 5:17pm On Apr 30, 2024

Beautifulday:
Many people don't know that old testament is Judaism.

Old testament is not Judaism.

Judaism is Judah-ism which the bible shows is a religion of idols worshipping and abomination, which is why God kept complaining that they never keep His Commandments!

Malachi 2:11-17 KJV
Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved and had married the daughter of a strange god.

Amos 2:4
Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have despised the law of the LORD, and have not kept his commandments, and their lies caused them to err, after the which their fathers have walked:

Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Israel, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they sold the righteous for silver, and the poor for a pair of shoes;

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 4:56pm On Apr 30, 2024

otipoju:
If God gave David the wives of Saul his master after his death. And then was angry with David for taking Uriah's wife and killing him...you should be able to simply deduce that Polygamy is not a sin against God. Coveting and taking your Neighbour's wife is the sin.

Sorry, you dodged the question. I did not ask about what David did with Saul's wives but asked about "gave him wives".

And you people insist on "gave him wives" meaning anybody's wife whether Saul o or Abner o or jonathan o etc and not "gave David the wives of Saul which is what you are changing it into.

Because my own deduction tells me that God cannot give any married person another person's wife because it is evil and it breaks His Commandment as shown in Verse 9

"wherefore hast thou despised The Commandment of The Lord, to do evil in His Sight?"

Then see the charges that fiollowed

Charge 1 "killed Uriah with the sword"

Charge 2 "and hast taken his wife to be thy wife (polygamy for David was already married to Micah[

Charge 3 "Slayed Uriah with the sword of the children Ammon".

Charge 2 is undisputably a charge against polygamy and any other sin that can be found there!.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by StillDtruth(op): 4:50pm On Apr 30, 2024*

Westerhoffe:
GOD was angry with David, not because he had many wives but because he KILLED URIAH AND TOOK URIAH'S WIFE.

Why didn't GOD send Nathan to him when he was taking other women as his wives?[/b]

Why didn't GOD send Nathan to him when he
was taking other women as his wives?[/b]

If you were not a very stupid mad person you would have seen that you have just proven my case in saying "took Uruah's wife".

And that God is not like Nigerian police who rush to arrest a person on a mere suspicion. For God takes Time before He arrests anybody eg The first world, Sodom and Gomorah, Egypt and now this world.

"Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."

But you are a mad man and sound reason and behaviour cannot be expected from you.

Christianity Etc › Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by StillDtruth: 4:40pm On Apr 30, 2024

otipoju:
If God gave David the wives of Saul his master after his death. And then was angry with David for taking Uriah's wife and killing him...you should be able to simply deduce that Polygamy is not a sin against God. Coveting and taking your Neighbour's wife is the sin.

Sorry, you dodged the question. I did not ask about what David did with Saul's wives but asked about "gave him wives".

And you people insist on "gave him wives" meaning anybody's wife whether Saul o or Abner o or jonathan o etc and not "gave David the wives of Saul which is what you are changing it into.

Because my own deduction tells me that God cannot give any married person another person's wife because it is evil and it breaks His Commandment as shown in Verse 9

"wherefore hast thou despised The Commandment of The Lord, to do evil in His Sight?"

Then see the charges that fiollowed

Charge 1 "killed Uriah with the sword"
Charge 2 "and hast taken his wife to be thy wife (polygamy for David was already married to Micah
Charge 3 "Slayed Uriah with the sword of the children Ammon".

Charge 2 is undisputably a charge against polygamy.

Go check the judgement for David's sin. It was devastating.

otipoju:
My claim ab initio is that Polygamy is not a sin against God and monogamy is not the standard for righteousness...

I know that is why we are in dispute starting from your basis of "gave him wives" so your off point surplusage in establishing your case is in vain. Sorry.

otipoju:
Please don't use Google answers for me. You as a lawyer knows the value of credible sources to back claims. I studied Jewish religious law as so many thousands of theologians. It does not make us lawyers.

Everyone knows Google is acceptable hence the popular caption "Google it". And in the event they are in error, we are all sure you will point it out.

And besides, we do not know what you sudied or did not study, so Google is a fair referee between us.

And presently you do not contest that the information on Paul is untrue, so it is not a problem.

otipoju:
I mentioned that I was trained in religious studies just so you don't give flippant answers to me. It was you that was trying to impress with your law degree saying you seperate truths from lies....as if that is what lawyers really do.

That a lawyer means that you are trained in logical reasoning. If that is the case you ought to know that it is impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Polygamy is a sin against God from the Christian scriptures.

Your heart has already confessed the Truth and you cannot take it back. You said it because you wanted to intimidate me and tell me that you are the bible expert and authority and therefore i have no right to query your opinions. And that pride and arrogance made you to repeat it again up here in your post, even though it was not relevant and fallacious but i ignored them and faced the issue of contention.

So try to stay focused.

And proof beyond reasonable doubt is for criminal case in proving the guilt of a person accused of a crime and this is not a criminal case but a civil one, and that is judged on the prepoderance of evidence and a balance of probability, which you have already lost by your dodging of the question i asked you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by StillDtruth: 3:27pm On Apr 30, 2024

drlateef:
Any intelligent person knows you are talking rubbish.

Every intelligent person knows that you are the one talking rubbish for clearly you cannot argue against those Truths which is why you.went for the fallacy of ad hominem.

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