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This dude is a hopeless talkative.

SalamRushdie:
That's the multi million dollar question ..there is actually a ceiling Nigeria is not allowed to exceed and it might be a conspiracy by a lot of brokers from Fuel importers to generator sellers and finally darkness seller (I hope you know darkness is actually sold in Nigeria) ..I have noticed that anytime rise above 4000 MWS there must be a major gas pipeline sabotage within 48hrs please also try and take note

I fully align with this thought.

There is a real and steadfast cabal that seems very determined and very alert to the danger that steady power poses to their own business. A cabal that goes as far beyond the Nigerian border as the term international. A cabal whose interest lies in both continued epileptic power and dependence on fuel importation.

The downstream petroleum products marketers and retailers seem to be the chief suspects here.

If the sole importation of diesel could make Femi Otedola a billionaire, now imagine him making these billions if Nigeria had steady power since the 1990s.

Just imagine the fuel consumed by industries, corporate offices, telecoms base stations, banks, residential estates, and the regular family homes on a daily basis.

Infact, a false economy has emerged out of the inefficiency of utility power supply. An economy that already has its own highly trained professionals from the the top level petroleum marketing to the retailers. An economy that will render many wretched if it were to be erased by the sudden efficiency of utility power supply. A viral economy whose contraction will automatically contract the legitimate host economy. An economy that will not sit back and be threatened.

ocelot2006:
Thats because OBJ just lied. His administration NEVER reached the 4000MW mark. Hell, he never even exceeded 2000MW! That 4000MW was exceeded by the GEJ administration with the Ministry of Power under Prof. Barth Nnaji's watch. That gorilla should give it a rest.

So OBJ inherited 1750MW but never exceeded 2000MW after 8years and $12b spent?

So the the 4000MW installed capacity attained by end of 2006, and the 3750MW generated as at May 2007 handover, was a figment of government imagination?

For the Barth Nnaji apologists, do you know he only spent 11months as Power Minister from 2011 to 2012, and that the GEJ regime celebrated its own version of 4000MW installed capacity in November 2014, over 2yrs after the 11months tenure of Prof. Barth Nnaji?

Bros please lie small small. Haba!

You even fathomed Nigeria to have 11,000MW installed capacity during the Jonathan era, that the Buhari regime is still dreaming of 10,000MW, and currently stuck on 6000MW.

ocelot2006:
What OBJ said a BLATANT LIE! Generate what 4000MW? GEJ is the very first to hit the 5000MW mark and was responsible for increasing the installed capacity to 11,000MW. In all GEJ achieved far more success in the Power sector compared to OBJ. Is it because GEJ's naturally a quiet gentleman who respects OBJ that the later still attacks the former? Obj should respect himself and shut up.

Please stop smoking that sh.it you smoke.

Please I beg you.

Did you just say we have 11,000MW installed capacity and it was attained by the Jonathan regime?

And that the OBJ regime did not attain 4000MW installed capacity?

SalamRushdie:
Just the same way I am surprised this govt is also celebrating achieving the same 4000
.. Truth be told we all know that even though OBJ had built a couple of power plants here and there none of the had injected any power into the grid before he left and that was why Barth Nnaji inherited about 2000 MWS and was able to get some the OBJ newbie stations to start working which lead to his early victory of achieving 4000 in a short while which is what we expected A Fashola to do with want he met and inject quick additional power to from GEJ uncommissioned stations and increase the 4800 he met to about 6000 or 6500 but instead it has dropped back to the Obasanjo days if not worse because I rarely see power these days

So when are we going to rise above the glass ceiling of 4000MWs, because it seems despite our increasing installed capacity, we always hover above and below the 4000MW baseline?

"Again, before I left, we were able to generate 4,000MW of electricity. We had laid out a plan to increase to 10,000MW in subsequent years. When they Jonathan came, they boasted that they will generate 40,000MW in 4 years. I said what! 40,000MW? Do these people even know what they are are talking about?

...


He still didn’t hear. At the end, he failed Nigerians on that promise and others he made. How many megawatts did Nigeria have when he left office. It was actually lower if you compare to what I left in 2007."

I have always maintained that the OBJ regime at the tail end of 2006 already celebrated the generation of 4000MW of electricity, an improvement upon the 1750MW installed capacity inherited in 1999.

So I was puzzled when the GEJ regime celebrated the same feat of 4000MW in November 2014, 8yrs after the initial celebration.

The words of OBJ himself has justified my assertion.

CC: SalamRushdie, NuclearWinter, Deomelo

Crocky23:
Osinbanjo doesn't have the balls to be president. When we last had similar crisis, Jonathan took the bull by the horn. Don't expect Osibanjo to challenge the cabal, he has no political base, a toothless bulldog.

Did you just say Jonathan took the bull by the horns?

Can that woman called Jonathan even look a bull in the eye?

You better praise the actions of the Save Nigeria Group (SNG), Pastor Tunde Bakare, Wole Soyinka, and Dora Akunyili going rogue at the Federal Executive Council.

No where in the report did it state that he did not carry drugs into Indonesia.

The only submission made was that he was not allowed the benefit of the legal privileges that he was entitled to. Privileges that probably might have got him life imprisonment instead of death?

I would say he got the better deal. He moved on.

Kebbi has really embraced this rice farming while Fayose of Ekiti continues to hawk imported rice to distribute as stomach infrastructure.

This is more like stating that the Pope is a Catholic.

Will the bible study stop the United States from carrying out assassinations around the world?

Will the US now begin to teach its numerous secret spies and assassins bible studies, while equipping her soldiers with the latest edition of the bible to engage the Taliban forces, ISIS, and Al-Qaeda?

Did US overcome the USSR during the cold war by praying to God? Or God launched the US to the moon ahead of Russia? Or the bible held the secrets to the atomic bomb the US dropped on Japan during the 2nd world war?

Or was Trump engaged in any bible study while building his real estate and entertainment empire, before venturing into politics to pander to religious fanatics while he remains aloof to religion?

Anytime I see or hear rightwing Americans describe themselves as a Christian nation, I begin to wonder what really a Christian nation and government ought to look like considering their past dependence on slavery and segregated society, and their "only the strong survives" individualist capitalism.

Mckennedy:
For the doubting Thomas dem :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihuo

There is no doubt that this Iho-Dimeze was first prospected for petroleum in the 1930's before Oloibiri, nor is there any doubt that Araromi in Ondo state was the pioneer oil prospecting location in Nigeria in 1908.

The issue now is what exactly is the issue, or what recognition does Iho-Dimeze want?

Is it a recognition that oil was prospected there without anything tangible discovered to sustain the interest of the same Shell-Darcy who initiated the prospecting and later moved on to Oloibiri?

NuclearWinter:
You are really pathetic


One minute you are claiming Fashola is working and adding to the grid and now you are saying one year is too small to finish a power plant.

So from where is the power projected output of 6000mw coming from?

During OBJ we had an installed capacity of under 3000mw which GEJ doubled to 6000MW in just 5yrs.

If under GEJ we witnessed double our total power capacity since 1960, how many watts has your over sabi Fashola added? Answer : not a single light bulb wattage!

I already trounced your logic.

Whatever Jonathan achieved which obviously wasn't 6000MW, are we to award it to the Obasanjo and Yar Adua regime because they conceived It?

Was Jonathan not meant to complete what he inherited?

Was Buhari/Fashola not meant to complete projects they inherited because they did not conceive it?

So why are you condemning Fashola when you already know that Jonathan did not conceive for you to have uninterrupted power as at mid 2017?

Or did Fashola sabotage or abandon any power project of the Jonathan regime?

Or did I ever argue that Fashola must have conceived a power project to take the glory for its completion during his own tenure?

Can you please show me where I made such assertion?

If not, you are just running around in circles defeating your own argument.

SalamRushdie:
Here is a link below that clearly states that by Dec 2012 Nigeria already had a capacity for nearly 7000MWs and with the Jonathan govt adding an average of 450Mws per year you will see it got to 9000Mws and I remember it was even announce by the govt

http://sweetcrudereports.com/2013/01/09/nigeria-to-achieve-10000mw-power-generation-this-year/

Even the link say Nigeria to achieve 10,000MW ....

So was it achieved?

Should I also show the the link from the power industry technocrats saying Nigeria to achieve 6000MW as at 2016?

SalamRushdie:
By installed capacity I meant under the clumsy Jonathan Nigeria had already enough power plants that could generate over 9000 MWs but many of the where incapacitated by lack fuel (gas) supply so bad that some didn't have Gas trains or pipelines heading their way ..

Why not show us a media link of the Jonathan regime achieving 9000MW installed capacity as at May 2015?

Anybody can bandy about wild figures. What we need is a reliable source.

NuclearWinter:
How many power stations has your Fashola conceived and rolled out?

Stop pushing your male bovine excrement all over this thread

Conceived?

So a new power station can be conceived and still executed under 1year's budget?

Why do humans so easily betray their hypocrisy and prejudices?

So should Fashola have abandoned projects of the last administration to settle a political score?

Are you therefore saying that if you are suffering epileptic power supply and wailing aimlessly about it as It has become obvious to many, then it is the fault of Jonathan's regime who did not conceive to give you steady power as at mid 2017?

So what exactly is this unnecessary debate about?

Please stop insulting this thread with your idiocy and partisanship.

SalamRushdie:
Installed capacity under Jonathan actually stood at over 9000KWS but active capacity was slightly below 5000MWs so please sir can you tell us where and how Fashola has added his invisible MWs when even last week Nigeria was at 2700 MWS and I know it has even dipped this week .

Google the meaning of installed capacity.

I'm sure I already factored in those who are slow at learning, by deliberately using such an explicit term.

Even if all power generation stations shut down due to reasons like I had already given in a previous response, installed capacity will remain constant.

NuclearWinter:
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You are a born liar like your mentor lai mohammed.

Fashola has not added a single extra watt bulb of electricity to our grid.

All that power you are crediting to Fashola was developed during GEJ era.

Stop this your pathetic lies.

You are the pathetic liar who wants to claim that the 4000MW of power attained under Jonathan and documented, is actually 6000MW.

Jengem:
no offense but it seems fashola is the one with sleeping brain

Every human being have a right to their sleep, even more so when they are not on duty as evidenced by the picture of him sleeping on a bus trip above.

drake2000x:
Afonjas defending nonsense because their own is there. Under Yoruba technocrats, this country has been run to the gutters...everything Igbo technocrats built has been destroyed.

As always, the Igbo man will always reveal his bile. Still bitter about the 2015 election damage to the backbone.

It always just has to be about the miserable clansmen?

Why not conclude in typical persecution complex, that there is deliberately no power in Nigeria just so as to punish the Igbo?

SalamRushdie:
My home hasn't had electricity for over 24 hours and when it comes it shows up for just 2 hours a day yet you want me to keep quiet because you work for Fashola

You have described a typical Nigerian problem that has long persisted. So you need to tell us what actions or inactions of Fashola has qualified him for the title of worst power minister?

Now if installed capacity is at its highest, but the necessary fuels/raw material is lacking due to reasons that range from low water levels that affect hydro power generators, or interrupted supplies from the petroleum industry due to acts of vandalism and sabotage that is even celebrated by a section of the tribal and political spectrum, is that culmination of your power situation the fault of the minister of power?

Simply put, Fashola inherited a power problem and has had just 1 single budget yet (2016 budget) to fix a decades long problem. His 2nd budget has only been recently passed with much debate with the parliament over what might have been removed or not removed from the planned capital projects.

Do you expect that a single year's budget (2016) for his own power agenda since he resumed office in September 2015, is enough to make a marked difference in the moribund power sector even when such budget was strewn together while experiencing a recession?

Everytime some people try to make tribal arguments about how the oil in their region was hidden to punish them, I always ask them the following basic questions that challenge their bigoted arguments and expose their idiocy to the whole world.

-When Oloibiri was discovered in January 1956 in present day Bayelsa, Was that Oloibiri located in the Western Region or Northern Region?

-If it was located in the Eastern Region, which tribe was dominating that region then?

-Who headed the government of that Eastern Region if not an Igbo called Nnamdi Azikiwe?

- Are we then saying that Nnamdi Azikiwe knew there was oil in an Igbo region, but connived with the usual Yoruba suspects who are responsible for all the Igbo's problems, and decided to portray an Ijaw section of the same Eastern region as the pioneer of petroleum production in Nigeria?

-In an era where the derivation formula was touted to be 50% : 50% between the federal government and regional government, and the Eastern region determined not to have the minorities liberated like was done on the Western region to create the Midwest region, who benefitted from oil being first produced in Oloibiri, or Eket, or Umuahia, or Owerri, all in the same Eastern region?

-What would the British federal government of that time care if the oil was first explored in Igbo land or Ijaw land, when both land belong to the same Eastern region government dominated by the Igbos?

Of what particular pain is it to the Igbos that oil was first discovered in Oloibiri and not Igboland, when either location would have still brought oil income to the same Eastern region?

What stopped an Azikiwe led Eastern region from sponsoring the exploration in Igboland, if Shell was defiant that it would pursue petroleum in Oloibiri instead of the Igboland section of same Eastern region? Because oil was drilled for then at Iho-Dimeze in present Imo state or originally at Araromi in present Ondo state prior to Oloibiri, did not mean anything substantial was found, nor does it take away the status of Oloibiri as the first commercially viable well in the history of Nigeria to be produced and to generate income for both the federal government and the Igbo led Eastern government.

Besides, historical records suggest that while Shell D'arcy was prospecting for oil in Oloibiri, it's operations base was in Owerri in present Imo state which is the same state the OP has claimed the oil well at Iho-Dimeze is. So Shell just loved to sit on a pile of known crude oil deposits within the Igboland section, while venturing into a possible unknown outcome in Oloibiri?

The great Awolowo, did not wait for any multinational firm to come build the tallest building in West Africa then in Ibadan, nor did he wait for any multinational firm to come start the first African television station in Western Nigeria?

So who exactly is responsible for ignoring Igboland oil and pursuing Ijawland oil instead, in the build-up to the January 1956 discovery?

Who hated the Igbo then? Was it Shell or the British run federal government, or the Igbo run Eastern regional government?

Igbos should learn to stop shedding crocodile tears and always being desirous of being a persecuted victim in all national debates.

Persecution/Victim complex is a psychiatric disease.

Worst because you have ever had an installed capacity of 6000MW of power before in Nigeria?

Or worst because he was the minister when power supply in Nigeria transitioned from steady power from post independence to epileptic power post civil war?

Or worst because he is the 1st power minister who inherited the epileptic power situation and did not manage to restore constant power under a ministerial tenure that will only be 2yrs by September 2017 ?

Or worst because he hid his magic wand that would have restored power overnight, and decided to plan and budget and implement like human muggles are constrained to do without the power of witch-craft?

Instead of sleeping at night, some people just keep awake, putting too much pressure on their already sleeping brain.

IJOBA2:
GBAWE ARE YOU AFONJA MUSLIMS CURSED WHY CANT YOU AGITATE FOR YOUR SKULL MINING REPUBLIC OF ODUA ABI UNA Fulani MASTERS NEVER APPROVE AM

It seems you have missed the many intellectual lashings you must have received in the past from the great Gbawe.

Whenever I need to be amused, I just look for some Biafran delusion to read about.

I must say, those guys are delusionally creative.

They voted in an entertainer, he must do his job.

Oku Ijebu oun ku lasan.

Whenever I need to be amused, I just look for some Biafran delusion to read about.

I must say, those guys are delusionally creative.

Hahahaha!

No be this guy drive that hunchback Kanu comot from prison?

So he wants to contest an election that an unrecognized dictator and his terrorist group have insisted will not hold?

May we not drive problem into our lives for free.

Pope22:
I think the solution is...

Whenever there is any violent by either IPOB or fake IPOB, let there be shoot at sight and shoot to kill.

If IPOB agree to this, let the game start.

I concur with this quick resolution of the identity crisis trailing the "unknown soldiers" who have vowed to disrupt the democratic process in Anambra.

Yyeske:
You were among those jubilating that IPOB miscreants attacked Obiano but now your story don change because IPOB issued a statement.

Hahahaha!

There's a certain polite way to reveal a man's hypocrisy to him?

Slap him hard with his own past opinion.

You did just that.

sonya4all:
if the security details of the governor had opened fire on them, IPOB will claim they killed their members.......but now they are denying their members. soon they will start claiming genocide
you guys had better be careful

Guy, you just killed a whole tribe with the stinging truth?

You are genocidal.

Lol!