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Another APC propaganda to distract and obfuscate the failure to provide certificate by Buhari. GEJ till Buhari passes GCE!

Osinbajo has something to say too:

GEJ is not Buhari and is by far more educated. He has not filed a false affidavit.

Bridgetown:
First it was tinubu then OSHOMOLE now is Buhari none has certificate and yet they want to take Nigeria to the next level. Yoruba man say I am washing!

Is it that interesting? Change indeed! We need change from certificate forgers.

Oshiomole has chimed in:

Even Fashola has tried to pry this certificate from Buhari to no avail.

ABIOLAXYZ:
his he contesting for the first time?

Nigerians will be free of bandage Gej put on us.
may 29 on my mind

This is a lame excuse. We don't wanna live in the past. Ask your hero to present his certificate and all will be well on this issue. Why is it difficult for Buhari to comply with the law? Lend him your own!

Change2015:
Oga please, it is renouncing not denouncing, chikena!

#change
#GMB
#APC

My friend the English grammar teacher renouncing and denouncing can be used interchangeably. Op was correct in the context he used denounced.

We do not need his name on a website. Anyone could add a name online. We need Buhari's certificate.

Another crime is that he has failed to present his certificates as required by the Nigerian constitution. He then swore a false affidavit.

Lie Muhammad you've lived up your name. Present Buhari's certificate and the purported assault will stop. Buhari and his ilk have benefited from quota system to the detriment of the country and you have the temerity to blame us the victims for asking the right questions. Do not incite the military against those who are asking for answers. This is 2015 and not 1966!

The constitution requires Buhari to present his certificate and not even an affidavit. Do us a favor, ask Buhari to do the right thing or quietly save us the sob stories and withdraw from the contest.

Vote GEJ and continue with Goodluck.

See how Buhari's loyalists view Osinbajo and invariably the Yoruba. A picture is worth a thousand words while image is everything.

100Cents:
Bros, even if nah First School Leaving Certificate.

Abeg, accept...

Thank you brother, I fit start with that School Leaving Certificate but minimum requirement for presidency is GCE. No quota allowed.

Good talk Mr. Jokolo. GEJ till 2019. Buhari needs to go and concentrate on getting his certificates back from the military authorities.

Sure they are: see the picture and tell me what you see

Image is everything. Buhari has not won yet but see what awaits the Yoruba. A picture is worth a thousand words.

If the statement of the military is true Buhari has to be charged with perjury and disqualified from contesting the election.

It did not make sense in the first instance anyway. No one gives the originals of his credentials to his employer.

GEJ until Buhari presents his GCE!

Nigeria must continue with Goodluck!

Pr0ton:
and "whatever begins to exist has a cause" so God has a cause, huh?

if He doesn't then He doesn't exist as "whatever begins to exist [must] have a cause" in other words, "things that don't have a cause don't exist."

and don't tell me God never began to exist, because He's always there. Your Bible says, "in the beginning was the word" so He has a beginning. Even, pastors do call Him "the beginning and end".

Before I leave this thread, I would pray for those who are chasing shadows regarding Yahweh that since they love him so much and he exists, they will go and meet him this 2015. Please do not call this a curse It is helping these guys fulfill their wishes.

cloudstar:
Are you blind or are you deaf? Or you just don't know how to respond. From the above I have posted; can you please falsify it - if you can't; then sit down and shut-up.

I am asking logical questions for you to either validate or falsify and I honestly hope you know what that means. Either what I have posted above is true or it's not.

You seem to always cry wolf without offering any alternate explanation.

You have vacillated from one fallacious argument to the other. You have used argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad baculum, devine fallacy, argumentum ignorantium, argument by gibberish, fallacy of shifting the burden of proof and you have now ended up at the grand daddy of them all which are insults called ad hominem fallacy and evil or stupid fallacy. When it gets to this point, I usually leave you in your own cesspool.

Your reasoning is fallacious and no amount of name calling would change that. Thank you for the debate.

Buhari's speech was widely reported in 2011. He made the statement and cannot deny it now.

http://www.igbofocus.co.uk/html/post-election_violence-_lemu_committee_blames_buhari.html

Buhari can cry me a river. On March 2nd, 2011, Sun Newspaper reported that Buhari asked his supporters to lynch anyone who tries to tinker with their votes. Shortly thereafter he lost the election and his supporters went berserk. Many other news outlets reported this incident then.

http://www.gbooza.com/group/nigeriapolitics/forum/topics/april-polls-lynch-anybody-who#axzz3NclaGN7J

He cannot now deny that he said his supporters should kill. The genie is out of the bottle and there is a video recording of it being said. He did not deny it 4 years ago, why now?

http://www.igbofocus.co.uk/html/post-election_violence-_lemu_committee_blames_buhari.html

GEJ till Buhari stops lying about his certificates and stops threatening violence. New Year but stay the course with GEJ and continue with Goodluck.

malvisguy212:
the amalakites, are they innocent? Did you read the whole story?


The Amalekites attacked the Israelites
without apparent provocation as they
were traveling during the Exodus ( Ex
17:. "When you were weary and worn
out, they met you on your journey and
cut off all who were lagging behind" ( Dt
25:17-18). They later attacked Israel
during the time of the Judges (Jdg 3:13)
and often raided the Israelites' land after they had planted crops, leaving them with nothing ( Jdg 6:2-5). God punished the Amalekites by ordering Saul to destroy them ( 1 Sam 15:2-3) - over 300 years after they had first attacked Israel.
During that time, the Amalekites had
contact with the Israelites and would
have heard about God. They could have
repented and changed their ways, but
they continued to raid and plunder other cities up to the time of Saul and David (1 Sam 30:1-3). The Amalekites that Saul and David warred against were clearly no better than their ancestors who had first waylaid Israel.

"It is not for your righteousness or for
the uprightness of your heart that
you are going to possess their land,
but it is because of the wickedness of
these nations that the LORD your God
is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the
LORD swore to your fathers, to. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. ( Deuteronomy 9:5) Okay, how "wicked" could those people have been? How about killing their own sons and. daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their gods:

"You shall not behave thus toward the
LORD your God, for every abominable
act which the LORD hates they have
done for their gods; for they even
burn their sons and daughters in the
fire to their gods. ( Deuteronomy
12:31)
The wickedness of these people is
confirmed in other verses of the Bible.

https://www.nairaland.com/2032869/did-god-realy-killed-innocent

Yahweh is a nincompoop. You can't defend the indefensible. You are an expert in defending things that are pure nonsense anyway .

The Amalekite Genocide
Nothing much needs to be said about this one.

You only need to read the first three verses from 1 Samuel 15 to know for sure that the God of the Bible is evil. (Thank goodness he doesn't exist!)

Still, it is good idea to look at the story in context.

(Bible believers often tell us to look at the context. But context nearly always makes Bible stories worse, not better. This story is no exception.)
Samuel also said unto Saul ... Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15.1-3
Notice that Samuel speaks here for God. Why would anyone believe that then or now? Was it because it sounded like something God would say?

And if the genocide was so important to God, why didn't he tell Saul directly?

But let's assume that the Bible is right and Samuel quoted God correctly. If so, then (unlike many of God's killings) we know why God wanted to Saul to kill all the Amalekites -- because God remembered what their ancestors did hundreds of years before they were born (they defended themselves when the Israelites tried to kill them and take their land).

And Saul pretty much did as God commanded. He sent 210,000 soldiers to kill everyone and everything among the Amalekites: men, women, children, babies, animals -- except for the king, Agag, and some of the more valuable sheep, oxen, and lambs.
Saul gathered the people together … two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah. … And Saul smote the Amalekites ... And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword. But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly. 15.4-9
Saul killed the old men, the pregnant women, the children and babies. But he spared the king and some of the more valuable animals, and God would never forgive him for it.

Samuel cried his little eyes out all night and God repented of making Saul king.
Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying, It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night. 15.10-11
It's good to know that God repented. When you order someone to commit genocide for stuff that happened centuries ago, you should be a bit sorry about it.

But that wasn't what God was sorry about. God wanted all of the Amalekites to be killed. In some sick way it made God happy every time an old Amalekite woman or a little baby was killed.

No, God repented of making Saul king because he didn't kill everyone, and God wanted everyone killed.
And if you believe in the Bible, you wanted them killed, too.

[If this Bible story is true (which it isn't, of course), how many Amalekites were killed at God's command? I originally gave it the usual 1000 for a standard massacre, but Saul sent 210,000 soldiers to do the killing. He wouldn't send that many soldiers to kill only 1000 civilians, would he? So I increased it to 10,000.]

God's next killing: Samuel hacks Agag to pieces before the Lord

- See more at: http://dwindlinginunbelief..com/2010/01/gods-63rd-killing-amalekite-genocide.html#sthash.qmo9NFRP.dpuf

1ord:
You just pick parts of the scripture to support your view points.Fact is yaweh and his ilk are genocidal maniacs that attack people unprovoked.The guys i pity the most are the people of jericho they were in their own land in their own city yet those genocidal maniacs randomly decide to slay them.I you have read through Kings and various parts of the old testament then you know i am right.

What about the Amelekites? He even said in his horrible book (the bible) that they will never be remembered. However, he asked that their story be recorded and by this recordation, the world got to know and remember them for the atrocity committed against them by Yahweh.

"14 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write this as a memorial in a book and recite it in the ears of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.” Exodus 17).

Since Yahweh was omniscient, he should have known that by Moses writing this as a "memorial" he would "not utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.” The story of Amelek echoes now crying out for justice! Yahweh must be tried for crimes against humanity. After conviction, he must be incinerated in his own inferno.

"Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Sam 15:1‑3). Yahweh is a crazy genocidal maniac with anger management issues.

What was their sin? Nothing! Yahweh punished them for the sins of the Moabites committed like 300 years prior.

1ord:
Fact is yaweh and his ilk are genocidal.You can try to twist the scriptures but we have all read them. They attacked many nations unprovoked either to get to their promised land or just because they had diffrent gods. Your God is a bigot.

You are correct. Yahweh is genocidal. He killed one million Africans (Ethiopians) for no apparent reason. This is the worst extermination recorded in the horrible bible. Yahweh is blood thirsty and loves the sweet smell of blood including that of women and children.

cloudstar:
sufido123



My argument is very logical and is based on empirical evidence.

1. We all know that nothing can produce nothing - except of course you are suggesting otherwise. It is statement is false, please prove it. It's it true please confirm it
2. Our universe had a beginning & didn't exist eternally: Science holds this view as true. Christians had always held this view. Again if this is false, please falsify it or confirm if it's true

From the above, what is false or incorrect about what I have said?

Fallacious argument period! Case closed. What type of empirical evidence are you talking about? You have none. Don't ask me to falsify your false argument, it is already false. Therefore, I can't negate a negative.

By the way I noticed that you try to evade the tough questions by creating your own questions and then answering the questions the way you like. It does not make sense.

Publicity stunt that is too little too late. The cat is out of the bag and the world now knows that Buhari is a violent man.

The video speaks for itself. Buhari would need decree 4 to pull the video. Unfortunately though that won't work in the U.S. A country of free speech and land of the free.

No to Buhari's violence!

Buhari and his ilk have nothing else to offer but insults. That is why we need GEJ till Buhari and his cohorts learn civility.

fortunes0215:
In desperate bid to return President Jonathan back to power come May29, 2015, a powerful delegation from the presidency on Wednesday met with officials of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) in Abuja.
The meeting which took at the commissions at about 12pm today discussed how photochromic ballot papers would be used 10 densely populated Northern state during the forth-coming Presidential election to boast the chances of the President Jonathan

Our source said the meeting had in attendance some prominent leaders of the north including, Governors Sule Lamido of Jigawa state, Godswill Akpabio of Akwa-Ibom State Four National Directors of INEC, Minister of Police Affairs, Jelil Adesiyan and one other minister (withheld).

The source added that the meeting cited the large turnout of votes expected from the 10 northern states which unfortunately is the stronghold of the opposition All Progressives Congress (APC), as the basis for considering the option of using photochromic ballot papers.

The discussion did not consider using same in any of the Southern region.

While the South South and South East region are considered a stronghold of President Jonathan which will turn out large votes for the president, the south West is said to be a no go area as it is believed the south western states have already had a bitter-bite of the tricks, and that may make it impossible for the use of the scientific ballot papers.

It was not established as at press time if the idea was admitted, accepted and welcomed in good faith but, the delegation is expected to feed Vice President, Arch Namadi Sambo tonight on the strategies discussed.

It would be recalled that the All Progressives Congress (APC), had in the wake of the defeat in the Ekti State governorship election, alleged that photochromic papers were used in rigging the election in favour of Governor Ayo Fayose of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

This development prompted the governor of Osun State, Rauf Aregbesola to demonstrate how the photochromic ballot papers can be disabled during his last campaign for the Osun State governorship election in August.

http://abusidiqu.com/plans-to-rig-2015-elections-in-10-northern-states-uncovered/

Nonsensical propaganda.

False. You bring nothing but message of doom and anarchy. You are tired and therefore should retire.

Vote GEJ.