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@Nakash:

by nakash: 6:03pm
Excuse me. One night prophet went out and his wife prolly thought he was going to screw someone else only to realise he was not. Jibril revealed to the Prophet that his underage wife had followed him So when he got back to his bed He struck her after she lied to him.

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Re: Muslima Lifts Veil Because Of The Heat, Husband Breaks Her Jaw by nakash: 6:09pm

nakash: Excuse me. One night prophet went out and his wife prolly thought he was going to screw someone else only to realise he was not. Jibril revealed to the Prophet that his underage wife had followed him So when he got back to his bed He struck her after she lied to him.

He the prophet struck her in the chest for Gawds sake and she says that she felt pain. And thats why Muslima who follow their perfect example sunna beat, mutilate, throw acid, kill,stone and kill nonsubservient wives. Rafiq Bary comes to mind at this time.

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Re: Muslima Lifts Veil Because Of The Heat, Husband Breaks Her Jaw by nakash: 6:47pm

nakash: He the prophet struck her in the chest for Gawds sake and she says that she felt pain. And thats why Muslima who follow their perfect example sunna beat, mutilate, throw acid, kill,stone and kill nonsubservient wives. Rafiq Bary comes to mind at this time.

Ill produce a hadith that supports this. Then I think we need to define which is saheeh and which is not. I I guess that Muslima here will portray that negative ones are not saheeh. Then Ill ask them which saheeh one tells them to use their left hand to clean their butt, which saheeh one lets them perform Wudu and how they arrive at it.

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Re: Muslima Lifts Veil Because Of The Heat, Husband Breaks Her Jaw by nakash: 6:58pm

nakash: He the prophet struck her in the chest for Gawds sake and she says that she felt pain. And thats why Muslima who follow their perfect example sunna beat, mutilate, throw acid, kill,stone and kill nonsubservient wives. Rafiq Bary comes to mind at this time.

their butt cleaning procedure is not their Quran so their arguments fall flat. When Muslimas go to the John they face Mecca. A guy in South pole will be facing North pole instead of Mecca. All the toilets in the just ended Olympics were facing outer space instead of Mecca. Muslims what do you say about your fake religion?

You seem to be so sure because there is a hadith that the hadith has to be true, not considering what the Quran says, first and other issues of critical analysis in play on the hadith, all helping to come to better understanding of a "hadith". Thank God that not all non muslims have the same mindset. Below is what a non muslim said in a 1956 publication:



“Of all the world’s great men, none has been so much maligned* as Muhammad.” W. Montgomery Watt, Muhammad at Medina, Oxford University Press, 1956.
* ma-lign: v.t. to speak harmful untruths about… (R. H. Webster’s).



www.guidedones.com/metapage/women/respected.htm

With the above in mind, here an overview of the life of Aisha bin Abu Bakr [ra] as wife of the Messenger [sa]. You will have to tell me when he struck her relative to the bold, below. I will not let you down gently.


Aisha(ra) became the Prophet(saw)'s wife in Mecca when she was most likely in the tenth year of her life but her wedding did not take place until the second year after the Hijrah when she was about fourteen or fifteen years old.. . .

Before and after her wedding she maintained a natural jollity and innocence and did not seem at all overawed by the thought of being wedded to him who was the Messenger of Allah(saw) whom all his companions, including her own mother and father, treated with such love and reverence as they gave to no one else. . . .



Aisha(ra)'s early life in Madinah also had its more serious and anxious times. Once her father and two companions who were staying with him fell ill with a dangerous fever which was common in Madinah at certain seasons. One morning Aisha(ra) went to visit him and was dismayed to find the three men lying
completely weak and exhausted. She asked her father how he was and he answered her in verse but she did not understand what he was saying. The two others also answered her with lines of poetry which seemed to her to be nothing but unintelligible babbling. She was deeply troubled and went home to the Prophet(saw)
saying:

"They are raving, out of their minds, through the heat of the fever." The Prophet(saw) asked what they had said and was somewhat reassured when she repeated almost word for word the lines they had uttered and which made sense although she did not fully understand them then. This was a demonstration of the great retentive power of her memory which as the years went by were to preserve so many of the priceless sayings of the Prophet(saw).



Of the Prophet(saw)'s wives in Madinah, it was clear that it was Aisha(ra) that he loved most. From time to time, one or the other of his companions would ask: "O Messenger of God, whom do you love most in the world?" He did not always give the same answer to this question for he felt great love for many for his daughters and their children, for Abu Bakr, for Ali, for Zayd and his son Usamah. But of his wives the only one he named in this connection was Aisha(ra).


She too loved him greatly in return and often would seek reassurance from him that he loved her. Once she asked him: "How is your love for me?" "Like the rope's knot," he replied meaning that it was strong and secure. And time after time thereafter, she would ask him: "How is the knot?" and he would reply: "Ala haaliha in the same condition."



Of her jealousy, Aisha(ra) would say in later years: "I was not, jealous of any other wife of the Prophet(saw) as I was jealous of Khadeejah(ra), because of his constant mentioning of her and because Allah had commanded him to give her good tidings of a mansion in Paradise of precious stones. And whenever he sacrificed a sheep he would send a fair portion of it to those who had been her intimate friends. Many a time I said to him: "It is as if there had never been any other woman in the world except Khadeejah(ra)."

Once, when Aisha(ra) complained and asked why he spoke so highly of "an old Quraysh woman", the Prophet(saw) was hurt and said: "She was the wife who believed in me when others rejected me. When people gave me the lie, she affirmed my truthfulness. When I stood forsaken, she spent her wealth to lighten the burden of my sorrow.."


Despite her feelings of jealousy which nonetheless were not of a destructive kind, Aisha(ra) was really a generous soul and a patient one. She bore with the rest of the Prophet(saw)'s household poverty and hunger which often lasted for long periods. For days on end no fire would be lit in the sparsely furnished house of the Prophet(saw) for cooking or baking bread and they would live merely on dates and water. Poverty did not cause her distress or humiliation; self-sufficiency when it did come did not corrupt her style of life.


Once the Prophet(saw) stayed away from his wives for a month because they had distressed him by asking of him that which he did not have. This was after the Khaybar expedition when an increase of riches whetted the appetite for presents. Returning from his self-imposed retreat, he went first to Aisha(ra)'s apartment. She was delighted to see him but he said he had received Revelation which required him to put two options before her. He then recited the verses:

"O Prophet! Say to your wives: If you desire the life of this world and its adornments, then come and I will bestow its goods upon you, and I will release you with a fair release. But if you desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the Hereafter, then verily Allah has laid in store for you an immense reward for such as you who do good."

Aisha(ra)'s reply was: "Indeed I desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the Hereafter," and her response was followed by all the others.



She stuck to her choice both during the lifetime of the Prophet(saw) and afterwards. Later when the Muslims were favored with enormous riches, she was given a gift of one hundred thousand dirhams. She was fasting when she received the money and she distributed the entire amount to the poor and the needy even though she had no provisions in her house. Shortly after, a maidservant said to her: "Could you buy meat for a dirham with which to break your fast?"

"If I had remembered, I would have done so," she said. The Prophet(saw)'s affection for Aisha(ra) remained to the last. During his final illness, it was to Aishah(ra)'s apartment that he went at the suggestion of his wives. For much of the time he lay there on a couch with his head resting on her breast or on her lap.


She it was who took a toothstick from her brother, chewed upon it to soften it and gave it to the Prophet(saw). Despite his weakness, he rubbed his teeth with it vigorously. Not long afterwards, he lost consciousness and Aisha(ra) thought it was the onset of death, but after an hour he opened his eyes.



Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3252 Narrated by Aisha ; Abdullah ibn Abbas

Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "The best of you is he who is best to his family, and I am the best among you to my family.”



Not beating her
Aisha (RA) said that “The Prophet didn’t strike a servant or a woman and he didn't beat anything with his hands." Narrated by Ibn Majah


Patience with her anger
Omar Ibn Al Katab said: My wife was mad at me and she reprimanded me and I rejected that from her! She said: Why do you reject it from me? I swear by Allah that the wives of the Prophet (PBUH) reprimanded him and one of them ignored him all the day long until the night." Narrated by al Bukari.



so tell me when he struck her and didn't strike her or any other wives, since Allah reprimanded the wives?

and a man who beat up any woman, including his wife, his no child daughter because he is the man deserves all the jails and prisons and fines and punishments that they can give him.

and it is my islam that is talking and not my male, nigeriann, etc. only my islam because if Umar ibn Khattab [ra] did not beat his wife, then no one should among the muslims because the hot blooded Umar [ra] was calm even as his wife was hard on him.

^^^, while you posted what posted above, male youth is a boy, male contemporary is also a boy, below is what i responded to

by dragnet: 12:59pm
[quote author=tidytim]"Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious ......
1. admonish;
2. banish them to their couches,(refuse to share their beds)
3. and beat them.(lightly)" -- Qur'an 4:34

the order is as stated above.... So who's fault is it if the man chose to skip the 1st two & bow to his temperament ?

i wonder if you think beat her lightly is the same as hurting her as the french youth did?


the messenger [sa] advised a person to not get get angry, 3 time and the man knew it is telling him not to give in to anger.

Hey geniuses; dragnet, tidytim: Since you boys think the violent husband who must be fasting did according to the Quran in beating his wife who must also be fasting, where is the beating Lightly? Or is the beating lightly is expected to cause pain, spill blood?

While most of the muslim critics like tidytim don't think before they post, I know a man whose wife will change her dressing the moment she was far away from the immediate vicinity of the house. She was deceiving her husband until the day the husband ran into her in the street.

The husband did not make any issue of it there or at home. The wife was so ashamed that years later she on her own began wearing Nikab. And she is a New Yorker. And both husband and wife I know.

A violent man is violent regardless of injunction to not strike anyone.

The best example to follow is Muhammad [sa] and since he did not beat his wives as the french guy did, then I say this french man is french fries and he should be punished.

I never ask my wife to put on any covering except that she should display her sincerity.

She got to britain to adopt head and neck covering. She said she felt nak.ed without it.

^^^^apart from pastor Joseph, the other guy looks more oriental than arabic. and repeating a lie so often that people are accepting it as the truth in the manner of dic.k cheney's yellow cakes from niger republic and the aluminum tubes does not make it true. lie is always a lie, so drumming the christian lies all over the tv in michigan still make it a lie even on mars.

@iv4fb:

by iv4fb: 6:16am On Aug 12
99.9 percent of all terrorists are muslims,

did you have verifiable evidence like head counts?

no muslim will ever say the truth with respect to islam's support for violence, killing the 'kafiris',

the Quran warns muslims not to start hostility. but it commanded muslims to fight back those who have fighting them, the same people of Makka who drove the muslims to exile. I dont think you grab the Quranic statement loosely stated above. Your NT has violent verses and the christians justified their crusade against the infidel muslims right from the pages of your bible. if there is any monotheistic religion that allows pluralism of religions in its community, it is Quran commandment upon the muslims that allows it. if you think the west allow muslims, then you do not now that the west has one agenda; money and she does not care as national policy where the money comes from.

I know a few who live a real good life,

i know many christians who live horrible live. so what is your point?

but why do they never say the truth about their religion.

the truth about islam is being said, daily and only in nigeria that boko haram is your headache because you have a spineless man for a president.

How many have condemned boko haram?

they are condemned daily and i have done so here many time.

Even those who do, do that only with the lips.]/quote]and you know their hearts?


[quote]Let's be realistic, my personal view is that all muslims support boko haram or are sympathetic to the cause.

all muslims? are you for real? i dont and i dont care for whatever cause the expound. I have no sympathy for them. Yes. You will say its lip's service because already now my mind.

Nobody should tell me its unemployment and poverty that bred the monster, they've always been jobless and unemployed, it didn't start today. Its strictly religion.

think hard, if you can and use the same "they've always been jobless and unemployed" to parallel there are always muslims in the north and indeed nigeria before we ever heard of boko haram. irony of it all is that not every northern muslim is a member of boko haram and not all southern muslim is a boko haram member, too. You need to begin to think lie somebody who truly wakes up.

@Sweetnecta, why must you lie? Is that the legacy you'll leave for your kids? How many muslims help themselves from alcohol and infidelity? You know how many of ur bothers still get their hands slashed in Saudi Arabia yearly? Alcohol and cigarette sells heavily even in the core sharia axis, u may hate the christians, but moral value is key. I stay in the core north and I've stayed in abt 9northern states, I attended their schools, recite their prayers, visit their mosques and I still have a conscience so don't say jack if you haven't mingle with the northern muslim.

so what was my lie? was the lie about uran and sunnah/hadith are Islamic standard and if one deviates, that part is not Islam? Please could you justify the existence of Boko Haram by using the Quran and or the Sunnah/hadith so that you can really expose me and put my religion in the spotlight? Islam is not an arab thing, the reason we have many non muslim arabs. Islam is not a northern nigerian thing and a universal religion is not defined by what the adherents do, but what the Book of Guidance says. You know a bad muslim by looking as his actions and referencing it compatibility or disagreement with Quran and saying or action of the prophet [sa]. And the muslims in the north has not made your life miserable even as you hate them. You even enjoy them.

Primary school pupils of ages 10 to 12 (at that teen age) cut a teacher's(corper serving with the primary school) throat because she caught one copying from a thorn piece of quaran and she threw the piece away, u remember that case? State government paid 5million and the family still leave amidst threats from your folks warning them never to refer to the issue again.

my comment on the incident, you should read it and know that i do not support evil. And islam does not permit cheating. so the parents of these bad children and the community leaders have responsibility to raise honest muslims and true citizens of nigeria. if islam is so careless about life i wonder why Quran talks so much about preservation of life so much so that it equates lost of one life as if it is lost of the whole humanity?

How many muslims saw anything wrong in that?

this muslim.

Even you will say she shouldn't have thrown the piece of quaran away. No conscience!

go read my response. i think you are not a bright fella in the way you have broad stroke Islam by actions of so ignorant muslim, not because they are not university graduates, but because what they are doing are the antithesis of Islam.

Talk about brain washing, abdulmutallab wasn't from a poor race, but brain washed to the point he was ready to bomb himself to please his god-ur god. Sheik gumi said soldiers should leave the northern states, I guess so they could kill more christians-they no longer can now.-its pretty difficult and risky. Does it make sense that people go to a place of worship and open fire and start killing them? I know you'll say boko haram is not a face of islam but in your heart of heart, you know that you're lying again.

my heart of heart is clear and it is what i put on the pages for you to read. while the father of adbulmutallab is responsible for how his son turns out, not just academically, but morally. when a bright person hears a speech, he will go to the Quran and see if it is clear that it agrees with it or somebody is creating a smoking mirror to get his way. I am of the opinion that islam is not on siege. no one has waylay me, preventing me from entering the mosque to pray. so to pic up arms and say you are defending Islam is completely wrong now that there is no way against Islam. And if there is way somewhere else, you do not leave a peaceful environment to enter the way theater. if you are in the place where is way, it is permissible to fight there if necessary. I dislike evil doers, regardless of their religion.

I supervise GCE once and when the secondary school children started reciting some part of the quaran, all supervisors/invigilators slept off, if I wasn't who I was, I would have too and u call that serving god?

you and your limited mind transporting yourself in matters of global scale. i don know who you are and frankly, i dont care because the hausas are not my Islam; QUran and Sunnah/Hadith are. Just like i dont care about the nationalist saudi arabian or arabs in general, i dont in the same way for any ethnicity.

That's diabolical, maybe you'll say its a miracle! Miracle to cheat I guess. A cultist was running for his life after killing someone and the jtf was on his trail, he started reciting part of ur holy book and bullets couldn't kill him, maybe that's another miracle but why should it support evil?

you should ask them because i dont know what you are dealing with, locally. A muslim who does evil is not representing Islam by his act of evil.

All u keep saying is Jesus said "I can of my own do nothing", that's humility if you ask me,

the bold is your opinion and what i said was on the pages of your Bible.

to me He's better than the guy who married a teenager

I will marry a mature and responsible and wise teenager, will i will not marry a childlike and irresponsible 30something.

(I've lost count of the number of wives he married altogether),

the wisest person in the bible married 700 wives. Muhammad [sa] was way less. and the bible guy has 300 additional concubines.

a guy who lost tooth in a battle fighting to...

is that a bad thing against being a prophet?

That's a story for another day.

i will my response till another day, too.

If you're as educated as I suppose you should learn to allow everyman take his path. If a man choose to worship devil and refuse to take heed to ur warnings, let him be, its his choice. You don't have to kill him coz he's not with ur god, if you pity him that much, pray for him that your god will change his heart or is ur god really powerless and dumb?

Have I ever tried to force anyone to come to Islam or remain in it? Thinking . . .

Sweetnecta, you've always 'sounded' academically inclined but work on your morals and psychology, they're infected with religion and lies,

my morals? lying for my religion? wow. Thanks. Am not an angel but I wonder how you arrive at this you conclusion?

if you read psychology for instance, you wouldn't want to force all other students in all other departments to read psychology or else you kill them-it doesn't make sense! You're a muslim coz your dad made u so, that doesn't sound loigical until you are convinced about your religion pal, so it means that your dad also chose course for u in the university and chose husband for you. Damn! Ever heard of personal conviction?

while my father was a muslim, he died when i was yet a teenager and my christian mother raised me. I do have siblings who are christians, so my Islam is a personal choice, regardless of the religion of my christian mother. And it was because I felt it in my heart that God is One and not a man that made me lean in the way of Islam, seeing it as very natural, agreeing with the natural instinct of man to connect constantly with God. I am a man and dont let the sweet part of the name fool you, showing that you dont know everything. see?

Someone said france is against islam, I'm still wondering why muslims and lying are synonymous, france have issues with ppl practicing to the point of disturbing others and so they say, do not practice ur religion in public but the muslim believes he's d only one affected, they don't give a damn about others.

religion is a personal individual affairs. And christmas chorus sang in public squares, door to door shows France zeros on Islam alone on the public practice of religion, considering that Muslims in France pay taxes, and france displays christmas trees, jewish menorah as well.

Maybe we should ask if saudi arabia and iran will even allow you to call yourself a christian.

there are christans in Iran and in Saudi Arabia, too. Many Iranian citizens are jews and chrsistians. residents of Riyadh are christians.

If a man choose to worship a tree, its certainly not ur business, he has his right to worship and has done no crime for so says our constitution, so let him b. You don't have to force him/her.

maybe you need to address to boko haram as well as igbos who are saying any igbo who entered Islam is not igbo, as if he or she should be disowned.

Ghandi said I love ur christ, I do not like your christian, your christian are so unlike your christ, truth is most so-called christians do not even worship God but their pockets and most do not live right, agreed but so do the muslims, the okada man that drink 'quaya' and smoke like crazy yet visit the mosque regularly is there. I am no judge or jury, but common sense is not common. If you wanna worship budha, so be it, you wanna worship whatever-it doesn't matter but let everyman, make his choice and change whenever he so chooses, no compulsion, it-is-not-by-force.

i have not seen any okada in my life. as i have said from the beginning the yardstick to measure Islam is not the muslims, but The Quran and the true sunnah and hadith of the prophet [sa]. to measure the muslim, the Quran and the hadith/sunnah are the yardstick. and will you like to read what Ghandi said about Muhammad [sa]?

Quotes : Mahatma Gandhi on Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in “Young India”, 1924:

“I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.”

May Allah forgive those who died in struggle to obey Him. Amin
Every soul shall have a taste of death.

@antivirus:

by Antivirus92(m): 9:11pm On Aug 11
Northern nigeria will be the next turn! Evil people!

I guess the poor bangladeshi people are evil by association of religion with northern nigerians. for sure southern nigerian muslims are evil. so much hate in your veins.


@ sijo01;

by Sijo01(f): 9:44pm On Aug 11
Yes, this is just the begining........ The God that answers by lightning, thunder and fire, visit the enemies of this country IJN, Amen.

j had nothing to do with this particular incident. if j had any power on lightening, one would have thought he would have used it against his enemies since we realize that he prayed all night so that he was not killed by his enemies.


@Pastor AIO

by Pastor AIO: 10:00pm On Aug 11
Shango Vs Allah


Or it it Indra vs Allah

when you read chapter titled thunder in the Quran, you will know that nothing is versus Allah because each is subject to His Permission and Power.


@amosy007;

by amosy007: 10:19pm On Aug 11
@antivirus

Human life is sacred! No matter how evil or bad those people are.. They are still human

i just hope and pray their allah in kabaar will grant them alljanah with 72virgins and po0l of beer they always wanted (if there are though)

to assume that they are evil because of dying by lightening will make one wonder if the person hung was not evil, too. to assume that because they are muslims, they were evil, one will ask if all christians are evil evil because there are militant christian groups in and out of nigeria.



@Pagan 9ja:

PAGAN 9JA(m): 9:49pm On Aug 12

Pastor AIO: Shango Vs Allah


Or it it Indra vs Allah


True Talk.

Indra/Shango win! grin

Never would there be a competition between the creation and the Creator. Allah ends the lives of these people in the way He wished. Each one of us will die in a way Allah designs it. If you die on your in the comfort of your bed, if you are disbeliever, but the believer who died by lighting will end up in Paradise, InshaAllah and you the disbeliever will not end up in the same place, InshaAllah. you pagan man will say buddha is one of your gods? but when the taliban blew it up in afghanistan, did the taliban win against your god?


i am shocked that some christians behaved in a similar manner to the idol worshiper, pagan 9ja, above. some of the best personalities of the christian biblle died no less a tragic death. being hung, burned, fed to lions, or beheaded are some of what we believe ended the lies of many. if the bangladeshi people were evil, what shall we say about the christians who met their ends as i listed above?

the reality is that thunder/lightening submit/bow to Allah because it does downward movement.

@davidylan:

by davidylan(m): 6:19pm

na2day!:
Israel will be very very uncomfortable now! grin


why? undecided Egypt will be scorched earth by the time Israel is through with them.

you know the unseen, since you are playing Yahweh? God can humble the overconfident goliath by the hands of small man david.

it happened before because goliath was a disbeliever and an evll doer.

weak small man david was a believer in One God which gave him advantage by true faith over the ill-fated arrogant disbeliever who relied on his empty power not considering what God will bring about.

I am enjoying this topic about Sayiddina Ali ibn Abi Talib [ra]. If he were alive, today, the computer world would have had its best[est] programmer, ever.

And Ali was only a door to the knowledge house, which is Muhammad ibn Abdallah [sa].

@Logicboy: The maximun number of days in a month in Islam is 30. The minimun is 29. There are 12 months in a year.
When you perform experiment or you are finding the strength of anything, you put it under maximum strength.

When the man who multiplied the days in a year by 7 chose 360 instead of other unsure number less that 360, he went for what he knew was probable surety, instead of the uncertain number of possible months of the year that may be 29, while we all know that in the greatest scenario, surely all month can be 30 days each.

the arabs were smart and they did not have to be believers before they knew the truth, the reason the disbelievers , Kafiruun are concealers of "truth the know".

@idi ileke: The message behind the knowledge of Imam Ali [ra] is beyond your capability of understanding, until you actually research islam for yourself. a baby cow [calf] will not know that he is lunch of the tiger, until he is killed. But mother cow [heifer] that has experience of the ability of the big cat will remain wisely in the confine of the preventing fence and enjoy the safety to live to see all her days.


@usisky: Are you comparing kalifah to Iman Ali [ra]? You need to quit cold turkey.

@Tiarabubu:

by tiarabubu: 2:09pm
Mr. Annoy

Your arguments are very logical and I agree totally with your points. I couldn't have put them better myself.

I think one of the sticking points is that from a muslims perspective, God is too great to reduce himself to our level.

is it not plausible to accept the bold so that the Uniqueness of God is expressed whereas you proposed as christians that God can not forgive without a payment so severe that it is the life of an innocent man that was perished for this mean, unforgiven entity to be satisfied, yet many christians will end up in the lake of fire?

While muslims define their relationship with God as that of Master and slaves, Christians see theirs as between children and a Father. A father will anything for his children. A master demands total loyalty without question.

since we have freewill which is a freedom to accept or reject, it is obvious that a true children and father relation is that of blood tie, while that of slaves and master is more of submission and no murkiness of blood tie. since there is freewill, no slave is forced by master. the muslim slave submits willing to the Master Who is God The Creator. It hard to define your child father relation and the basis for it, especially when the child will be punished just like the disobedient slave.

Roman 6 verse 18: English Standard Version (©2001) and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.

Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Roman 1: 1 I, Paul, am a devoted slave of Jesus Christ on assignment, authorized as an apostle to proclaim God's words and acts. I write this letter to all the Christians in Rome, God's friends


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogXWwKcHPNc




“The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus” (Acts 3:13).

Peter further said:

“God raised up his servant” (Acts 3:26), where the title servant refers to Jesus

So from that perspective, Muslims cannot agree that God can come down to our level. Even though he is All Powerful and omnipotent there are things he can't do, such as that; which is an irony.

God will not do everything because He can do all. He will not burden a soul more than the soul can bear. He will not be be Merciless to a person who seeks His Mercy. He will not humiliate a soul humble to Him. He will not be unjust where Mercy is deserved. He made it a bond on Himself to not without Mercy before the certainty of death. Just because you think it is fashionable and reasonable that God must let death overtake Him, it will not happen. God holds all unique position and He is unlike you, a creation.

Your thinking is similar to the atheist who asks if God can create a rock too heavy for God to move. It is senseless.

Christians see their relationship with God as a personal one that is more of love than fear. That's why Christians refer to themselves as "Children of God" with a loving father as against "Slaves of God"

is there a verse in the bible which says people should fear God Who will punish?

Tiara, you need to face reality because your idealism is fallacy.

Luke 1:50 His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation.

Acts; 9:31Then the church throughout Judea, Galilee and Samaria enjoyed a time of peace. It was strengthened; and encouraged by the Holy Spirit, it grew in numbers, living in the fear of the Lord.

10:34-35 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.

2Corinthians 5:11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience.

@Bella3:

by Bélla3(f): 1:27pm
@sweetnecta
so halleluyah is a muslim word?

get for me Jehovah or Yahweh from it. And if you cant, because I w you cant, let me give you Allah from it: "Ya Allahu"

YA SALAMU GA HARAMU.

what language is that because thats not arabic? if you think i speak hausa or fulani or gambari or any of the northern nigerian languages, you have to rethink.

What do you call a child u adopted?

the name of his blood parent.

Btw dnt u think it is lying to claim u re female(from u account) when u're nt

where did i say i am a female? be careful yourself o. the word spouse is used for a wife as well as a husband. i am full blooded male and not female about me, abeg.


@talk2me If i shud describe my God on this thread, it wil take years and years.
So u think it is truth to insult Jesus bt it isnt okay for me to say the truth?

Una don try wela. A god dat nids a consort to create a being an name his son, shame on him.

son is always sired and your bible described what the holy ghost will do to Virgin Mary to bring about a baby: He will overshadow her and overpower her. If that was not some se.x when pregnancy was the result, i dont know what else it is.

Luke 1 verse 35: New International Version (©1984)
The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

Is the holy spirit not your God anymore and is Jesus not called son of God above brought about as a result of holy spirit connecting with Virgin Mary or its all a child's play and we should not take that verse as it is written? Didnt the holy spirit acted as above?

Dont run away o, woman.

@ thorpido:

by tiarabubu: 8:41am

thorpido: Don't know why muslims like to hang on this theory of Jesus not being a Christian.Yes he was not and could not have been.Some muslims say He was a muslim.How could he be when Mohammed came after Him and islam started with him.

You would be correct if Islam actually started with Muhammad [sa] instead of being completed on him. Also you would be correct if Judaism was the first monotheistic religion or the judaism of today is from God, considering that it would mean God rejected other people and by just being non jewish will be in hell. or there were no people of varied religions, before Judaism was organized by the Jews. But none of the above was the case because Adam had a religion that his son Cain disbelieved in which is the reason his offering was rejected and the Abel was a believer had his offering accepted. We know that Cain was evil as he killed his good brother Cain.

We also know that Noah's community was destroyed for being disbelievers because they set up the first worship of humans as idols in idolatry. The names of the good people who had passed that they worshiped were 5; Wad-daan, Suwaaan, Yagutha, Yauqa and Nasraa. You will find the story in Surah Nuh.


I am sure that the reason Pharaoh and indeed Egypt was destroyed first with many disasters and finally drowning the pursing enemy was were because Egypt and her leadership the Pharaoh were disbelievers, while Moses was a believer leading believing people out of the reach of evil disbelievers. Was the religion of Moses different from the religion of Noah, or that of Adam or was the religion of Noah different from that of Adam, while each submitted their will to God as they churned personal way but follow Instruction from God alone?

Was their religion judaism at any time or the is anyone of them practicing judaism? Show me 1 simple element that any of these people will call religious duty that the jewish religion take as part of her duty? I want to learn from you.


If you can't and i am certain you will never be able, then know that there was religion on earth that was correct with God and it is not the religion of the present day jew or christian, if you consider their worship process. The bastard religion that the children of israel came up with at some point after Moses is the evolved judaism that we see today.


Jesus was prophet correcting them and pure religion he was returning them to so that they transport it to the rest of the world was bastardized to the christianity we now have, considering that this religion of Jesus did not bear christianity as a name when Jesus was on earth an no one of his disciples was called christian. the name had to come from humans and humans mae all kinds of claims or make erroneous statements, often [a pet owner who takes his dog as a son for example of human often false claims].


if the religion that these believers prescribed to submission to God because God has simply commanded them, then Islam of Muhammad [sa] is exactly this with a Book called the Quran and books of sunnah and hadith to explain the verses of the Quran.

While you are denying the obvious, and not even able to provide evidences for being adamant, the video here is from a jew in israel telling you that islam predates judaism, therefore being the oldest religion and definitely the first religion that upholds God is One without partnership and submitting to Him alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=w6fheRXbx4I

One thing muslims dnt understand is dat Christianity is nt a religion but a relationship wit God(I know it's difficult 2 understand wit revelation).

i see that you are re branding "religion' in your way. how is clapping and singing a true relationship with God, if God did not require you of any of these things in your 'relation"? Jesus of the Bible said he has a non dying God. but you said God died because Jesus is that God. Who is in error? Jesus prostrated his face in prayers to God, just like those prophets before him. You do not do the same thing. You is a disbeliever now? Jesus said his God is Ellah based on his accent.


You refused to say that your God is Ellah meaning Allah in Arabic. Jesus said there will be a definite prophet after him because the prophet will say that Jesus is the christ and the expected prophet will come when Jesus has left but when errors in faith, saying that Jesus said what he didnt say, much if not all of what Jesus said has been forgotten and since Jesus did not provide every essentials because it is the duty of this future prophet, who will have people following very much matured that the people of little to not faith who followed Jesus.

We definitely sse that no companion of Muhammad [sa] betrayed him, while from the companions, the 12 that followed Jesus we had betrayer, denier and one who was possessed by satan among them. When one reads the Quran seeing that it starts with "In the name of God, the most Merciful most Forgiving and no single word of Muhammad [sa] entered the QUran I have in my hands, and hadith/sunnah simply explains the verses of the Quran, is there is anyway to deny that God did not put His Word in the mouth of Muhammad [sa] to speak to man and that he was comforting the hearts and souls of believers as many verses of the Quran described him as kind, merciful, does not want harms to come upon you, etc?

Think about this scripture:He that cometh from above is above all:he that is of the earth is earthly,and speaketh of the:he that cometh from heaven is above all.And what he hath seen and heard,that he testifieth;and no man receiveth his testimony(John 3:31-32).

[/quote]The angels come from the heavens. jinns come from above, though not heaven. We all come from heaven; our soul being the spiritual part of us that is attached to the physical body. The verse is mostly meaninglessly redundant. Interestingly, a factual statement is in it; the bold simply points to the fact that like every previous prophet who was given directives, so was Jesus given directives. He had not "right" of his own. This is exactly what happened to Muhammad [sa].



@Tiarabubu:

Leave sweet necta

I asked a simple similar question whether there was any historical proof "islam" and "Muslim" as words or a religion existed BEFORE Prophet Muhammad. All I got were ramblings and a threat to get banned.

deal with the moderator as to the bold and dont drag me into your issue. watc the video that I already post.

below are something to think about concerning the bastardization of the religion of Moses, and definitely, same happened to the religion of Jesus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQl09Psg02A&feature=related [even the jewish bible was just being canonized when Jesus came, according to the speaker]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhcu0INxqRw&feature=relmfu [watch this very intensively].


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4TubEpDjuY&feature=relmfu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAhqboJvOQ&feature=relmfu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M7wPcmYu4s&feature=relmfu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7U7e28dPiw&feature=relmfu [listen to the speaker say the jewish religion today is different from the way it started.

Your answer is spot on by the way.

@mr anony: ^^^ it is Islam that has improved my personality, behaviors, morality, interaction and sensibility of sensitivity towards others.

otherwise, i could be predictable based on where i reside, my gender, my ethnicity, etc.

^^^^^^^^^^ so the culprit will the person who moved it because it deals with islam.

find the culprit and for me, i do not support any moderator banning or whatever. i think oversensitivity is not good.

maybe seun needs to re orientate his people. the act of muslim/s if it opposes what islam stands for, it is not binding on muslim and it is not islam.

What you call saudi arabia is the land of "Muhammad" the last prophet [sa].

if saudi arabian's monarchy falls, it will not bother because islam will still remain there and i see the saudi on a whole as "nationalistic" instead of being the touch bearer for or of islam.

china is not a land of prophet that you recognize and n prophet fro there is recorded in the Quran, the reason they should let guidance enter the land.

and the speaking the truth with facts for frosbel is Islam is wrong because it says God is not a man and man can not be God and 3 entities are not 1 God.

frosbel and his living in the west as if freedom does not have a leash/limit.

deepsight and his telling us that we should be ashamed for the actions of nl management team; the owner and his moderators.

i remembered when the religion moderator banned me just because i used islam to argue in favor of God and religious beliefs against an atheist. to me it was the worst kind of moderation because it restricted my freedom of choice of material to argue, especially that i am a muslim not arguing against a christian, but against an atheist for and on behalf of all religious beliefs.

living in the west therefore did not temper the moderator from going against the grain of what you will expect of person who is exposed to all kind of peoples and their opinions and thinking slants in real life.

I guess her dislike of islam might have played a great role in her decision.

I am saying that no moderator in the religion section seem to be a hands off person without using personal understanding in moderating. I dont expect any moderator to hide a post he/she like or ban the writer.

@Tiarabubu:

by tiarabubu: 10:39am
Fasting is prescribed in Christianity. in fact from the time of Isaiah to the Church at Antioch in Acts of the Apostles. Jesus admonishes us not to make public show of fasting, that is why we don't "announce" fasting times or set aside periods of the year.

while isiah and jesus were not christians, if Jesus did not let his followers/helpers know that e was fasting, how did know he fasted so often? The only reason you definitely know that muslims are fasting is because it is a common knowledge that God commanded it on all adults who do not fall into those who will have excuse from fasting.

“Moreover when you fast, don’t be like the hypocrites, with sad faces.
For they disfigure their faces, that they may be seen by men to be
fasting. Most certainly I tell you, they have received their reward.17
But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face,
18 so that it will not be obvious to others that you are fasting,
but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees
what is done in secret, will reward you. (Matthew 6:16-18)the difference between what is reported that Jesus said here and what Muslims are supposed to do in the month of ramadhan is the bold. Does a wealthy muslim in your neighborhood walks around in long face? Tell me his name or is the wealthy Alhaja sad looking, too?



[quote]In the early church, fasting was norm. The church in Antioch were worshipping the Lord and fasting before sending Barnabas and Paul for work (Acts 13:2).Paul and Barnabus appointed elders with prayer and fasting (Acts 14:23). Major decisions and activities in most Churches even apart from personal fasting, such as election of elders, consecration, persecution, needs, evangelism, prayer support, activity weeks etc are preceded by fasting and prayers

while you are touting only adults are the one fasting, Muslim youth as young as 7 upward fast and pray 5 times daily. Muslims fast off the month of Ramadhan, weekly throughout the year. and it is not the fast that you over starved yourself or break it in the daylight hour or drink water or some strange routine fast. The muslims are moderate and measured never restrictive or so underhanded. We are uniform and we are not supposed to create our own ideal fast or worship. If i ask you how you fast, it will be different from the next christian person. Muslim is supposed to be fasted from before dawn to after dusk. Thats universal.

Infact sometimes siblings don't even know the other is fasting, for how long and for how many days. that is why many outside Christendom will not know we fast very often. Its done on a massive scale but not outwardly shown.

deceive yourself as much as you want. the truth is known. As bad as boko haram is, even the christians are happy its ramadhan.

So what the Pastor did is probably a PR stunt; he may be trying to seek greater understanding by the act, or he himself doesnt fast. Not surprising since the Americans are bringing weird and unacceptable stuff into religion these days.

i will love to know the weird stuffs americans to christianity that you do not share? In Islam, i have not seen any. and your opinion of the pastor is your opinion, alone. the pastor knows why is doing what he is doing. i accept what he says of himself. God knows absolutely the end of the "experiment" of the pastor.

@Tiarabubu: do you live in america to know that americans bring weird stuff[s] into religion, these days?
Could you tell us what they bring to christianity that is weird?

how about Judaism?

Can you tell me what they bring to Islam that is weird?

^^^ banning of post problem should be considered as viewpoint, justly or not of the moderator, alone and not of all nl muslim or even the biggest tent of world Islam.

i was banned by a moderator in the religion mother board and i opened a thread to both explained my disappointment and quit nl. i was never intending to come back until a muslim brother wrote to encourage me to return. I am here also for his record, if I do anything of reward from my Lord, i pray that he be given the same in his account. Amin.

and as to the german prof., it is choice to have a view, including proposing as he proposed which is contrary to many physical evidences; the famous grave and the famous mosque and the famous city name. thats only in Madina and only on undeniable evidences.


is we talk about other evidences, we will ave to talk about Islam itself, Quran, the sunnah/hadith, his wives [ra], his children especially Fatina [ra], the hundreds of thousands of companions [ra], badr, hud, etc battles, Makka, Taif and we will have to deny the jewish tribes in Madina that were routed expelled because of their acts of treason. and no christian or jew or enemy of islam will like us to forget that the jews were defeated and expelled from "their God given city of Yathrib" and that Muhammad [sa] was "killed by the potent poison" of the jewish woman, regardless of his survival of the poison even as people died on the spot and that Muhammad [sa] was must get old and die , like every old people and like every prophet [as].

^^^ and at the end for being enemy of belief/faith china will crumble in the presence of Islam,if Allah Wills.
an adult person who wants to skip meals should not be forced to it.

@bukatyne: could tell us your reason that you said "dont say that"?

@Brentkruge:

by Sweetnecta: 9:38pm On Aug 10
^^^^^probably is not absolute.

Allah may just have revealed his insidious heart.

If Muhammad [sa] why was Yathrib now Madina and the jews know the history of The Madinan [sa].

This is what I say to what the german prof. was report to have said about Muhammad [sa]. What I said here is based on my understanding God is the One Who knows the heart of man, and will expose the evil heart, even if it looks to man as very good heart. Allah says in chapter named Mary: don't you see I have let loose on the disbelievers, "satan"? To me the verse says satan will control disbelievers and among the disbelievers will be hypocrite; a disbeliever in hiding.

now this is your opinion or response to what I said above. You seem to be criticizing the statement as the absolute stand of islam, not just my own. It may well be the exact stand of islam, if I am correct as Allah may Will that true knowledge flow from me in this case. But what is wrong in what I said that Allah may have exposed the heart of this german prof. for all to see? The true reason for this man to say what he is reported to have said about the Messenger [sa] is known to Allah alone, absolutely and the german prof. may just know just part of it.

by Sweetnecta: 9:38pm On Aug 10
^^^^^probably is not absolute.

Allah may just have revealed his insidious heart.

If Muhammad [sa] why was Yathrib now Madina and the jews know the history of The Madinan [sa].

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Re: Why Has The Moderator Banned Posts On When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brentkruge: 10:37pm On Aug 10
[b]^^^^^^^^

You see why Islam is scared of inquiries? [/b]the moment it opens its doors to researches and critical thinking, many things just dont add up. From this its easy to see why censorship is the order of the day in Islamic Countries, Islamic States and Islamic Boards like this one.

This is an Islamic Scholar that is begining to apply critical thinking to Islam, the doubts have started piling up!

Please explain your reason for the bold and the what wrote following it, because it does not fit what i wrote, supporting or criticizing except that is tangential to it, providing a window in my heart about your ability to see this the need of my statement?

by brentkruge: 10:37pm On Aug 10
^^^^^^^^

You see why Islam is scared of inquiries? the moment it opens its doors to researches and critical thinking, many things just dont add up. From this its easy to see why censorship is the order of the day in Islamic Countries, Islamic States and Islamic Boards like this one.

This is an Islamic Scholar that is begining to apply critical thinking to Islam, the doubts have started piling up!

In madina, there is a famous grave. the famous grave is occupied by the man known as Muhammad [sa]. This is evident enough to restrict a person from proposing that Muhammad [sa] existed.

further, the same city, Madina, used to be called Taif when the founders established it. The city became Madina in honor of Muhammad [sa]. To propose that Muhammad never existed will have to disprove from Madina alone, that the city was so named for other reason than honoring Muhammad [sa] and the grave does not contain the man called Muhammad [sa]. I have ignored other factors including his fatherly and spousal evident, evident in Makka, Islam and Quran and even Sunnah/Hadith that is not considered to be sunnah/hadith if it does authentically be reported it comes from him, wherein his name must be written in authentic and non authntic hadith/sunnah.

@Op As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah. Ramadhan Karim. InshaAllah Id Mubarack in advance.

Please explain the bold about Suhur:

The Neglect: What happens today is totally contrary to this. Many people eat their Suhoor an hour before Fajr or withhold from food and drink 15 minutes or so before dawn. This is not befitting. This is contrary to the Sunnah – the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his practice.

it is not clear about the 15 minutes or any close period before Fajr [dawn] what you saying considering that the hadith says "delay" suhur food and or drink close to fajr.

some people are not big eater, or dislike eating, so much so that they prefer a small amount of food or drink and will be satisfied. some may be poor and can only afford what they can afford.

it is sunnah to eat or drink but without doing it as if to store up excessive nutrients to be used for the non eating hour. the essence of fasting primarily is to obey Allah. the minor essence of fasting include experiencing how people who dont have feel. i believe that the month of ramadhan calls for restrictions of food intake and desist from indulging in your normal meal portions, over eating and it is preferable to eat less.


Please clarify.

May Allah reward you for knowledge and effort you have displayed above. Amin.

while the christians were posting videos of self styled "former muslim arab" of the guy who loos more like a cambodian or someone from the far east, is the op guy still her to answer the below?

@ijogzk: are you fasting, anyhow or you already quit cold turkey, because of boko haram, while you will remain in Islam because of your Creator, emulating those near you: parents and family members, town's people, notable law abiding muslims, while you are focusing on far away shadowy evil group known as boko haram?

i guess if the people from south south follow your precept the may just deny their tribe and or their religion because of the militants.

if the hausa/fulanis follow your precept, they will deny these two tribes and islam because of boko haram.

the question is this: is boko haram exactly according to Quran and the Sunnah of Muhammad [sa]? please be sure to give me evidence[s] instead of glossing over them, and think i will accept any mediocrity.

^^^ I am so grateful to God did not make her "christian" that you said she was not. Glory belong to God Who accepted my supplications for her not dying anything but a true muslim.

^^^^^probably is not absolute.

Allah may just have revealed his insidious heart.

If Muhammad [sa] why was Yathrib now Madina and the jews know the history of The Madinan [sa].

@Simplesea:

]by SimplySEA(m): 8:21am

Hey lady, u've spoken very well! And is quite obvious d side u're on! It may interest u to know dat i'm not on any side. I want d side of peace. Talkin about war and retaliative strikes don't really go down well wit me! My fren, wat'll happen "if an eye for an eye should prevail...? Do u not tink d whole world will go blind? Want to tell me u've never wronged someone before intentionally or not? If we preach dis kind of msg, what will happen to d world "forgiveness"?

i am a he/man, so don't let the sweet and necta fool you. i am simply on the side of reason, reason, non oppressive, freedom to retaliate appropriately, see compensation instead of retaliation or forgive for the sake of God. No one can be peaceful under all circumstances, including extreme circumstances.

it is often people who talk about unlimited peace who will be the first to seek their pound of flesh the moment somebody wronged them. an eye for an eye is still on the books in america, the leader of the the free world because a murderer is executed if found guilty, in many instances. when george bush was the governor of texas, he signed the execution of many.


not everyone in the world will commit crime as cruel as poking eye so that his own eye is fair to poke it out. so the argument that the whole world will go blind is weak. forgiveness is a chose especially when you can bear the loss. i am sure you will not forgive a person who is doing your people harm and in spite of you telling him to stop, he continued until he completed the job. if you say i forgive you, the family member who was the victim and now in pain will not forgive you for being a whoosie who didnt defend them and let them be violated. no one should be stupid.

Definitely no matter d msg one follows, there's a limit to wat one can bear.

so what wil make you reach your breaking point?

Besides, A "slap" is an instant action. D example u imported is quite continuous - Molesting and watchin. If i can stop it, i would.

what will a slap do in the rap.e situation? and whats continuous about the rap.e incident? if a an can protect his woman folks that he dies in the process of protecting them, he is not fit to be a son, a nephew, a brother, an uncle, a cousin, a husband or even a neighbor to the woman abused. i didnt raise the rap,e case, a woman dr. did, telling how she felt about turning the other cheek as an immoral principle in some situation.

Jesus, in one of his home cities, was bein ill treated and even stoned, he didn't jus stayed there cos he intend to turn d other cheek, he said some few nice words and walked away.

Muhammad [sa] reaction to his experience at the city of Taif is just as magnanimous if not higher. The prophets [as] of God bear much suffering. And i don't thin you believe that our action should be that of the prophets, in all condition because you have to look at the cross, if you are christian?

"....turnin d other cheek.." is quite proverbial.

like each statement in the the bible, eg. bring them before me and slay them, i do the work of my father, etc, etc? Dont be selective now.

D true meanin as explained by my spiritual leader is to walk away,

i dont buy it because the other cheek was on the face and it has not been struck, yet.

don't retaliate. In other words, forgive! Doesn't mean u can't have him stopped while he's at it.

when mike tyson was mike tyson, you wouldnt dare to try to stop him and if he really wanted the other cheek, he will take if you will not obey the instruction of biblical Jesus to voluntarily turn it for a big whack.

Or would u allow yr husband go over to d rap*ist house to ra.pe his own wife in retaliation?

turning the other cheek in this case is offer the other women for this atrocious act, so that its a common thread that not just one cheek was slapped, all the cheeks were.

i want peace.

so do i. you are not alone in this.

My best fren is muslim. Now we don't trust eachother anymore.

i wonder why you dont trust each other, because i trust my christian and other non muslim friends. and they trust me, just as much.

@bella3:

by Bélla3(f): 12:07am On Aug 09

seriously, i dnt care if you bow to stones in Kabbah or stone the devil in ur 'holy city'. In ur naive mind u think that for God to hav a son he needs a consort. Is ur god that weak?

What is created is not an offspring, even in human term, especially when they are not of the same. Bill Gates would have been the father of the software microsoft produces then. Bill gates children are his offspring of same human nature as him. God will not produce another God. One man produces god and says thats God, too. God will not come in the nature of man, for no apparent reason. No reason at all.

That he cant create a simply being and name his son?

God did not say this to any prophet, ever. So the saying of it is your desire and it is made up. If God wanted a son, better creation like Angels are there, instead of human being.

By Gods grace, i am given a previlage to be a daughter of God. To share a special bond wit Him-what about u? I can nw be called a daughter of God as long as i do His will.

this privilege is of your own making. There is no reality to it. People who do the Will of God much more than you were not sons of God but friends and obedient slave servant of God. Abraham is one for you to think about against the title you put on yourself.

I must say 'congratulations' for twisting everything i said to fit ur vanity.

Vanity when you call yourself daughter instead of servant/slave who must be obedient.

Jesus gave a new law which is 'LOVE'. Love God, love thy neighbour.

Jesus of the Bible also said oh you fool, your adulterous generation, vipers, people of little faith. Where is the love in these, dear Bella3?

When u Love, you wouldnt take a life, you wouldnt steal, you wouldnt lie,. When u Love God, u'd do his wil. Just the word 'love' sums up evrything Jesus had to say to faithful believers. Seriously, i dnt care if u are a muslim or nt, all i think is u shud be educating people in ur religion dat we are in the 21st century and the laws of Mohammed have to be forgoten.

non of the vices you listed about is not found in the christian community from the highest to the list of the people. You seem comfortable to have forgotten how Jesus obeyed God Who sent him. He did that by supplicating to Him. By begging Him for help and support. By worshiping Him all night long. If Jesus fulfilled the laws and the prophets, and warned that no one must reject or suggest that they be rejected, your rejection of the laws and the prophets is contrary to what Jesus did. Muhammad [sa] revived the laws and the prophets. How then are you suggesting the laws and the prophets be rejected just because it is 21st century? Is the God of 21st century different from the God of the old times?

They shud stop the massacre of the innocent esp children. GO nd educate ur brethren in Somalia dat 'education' is the only way to see the light.

i dont where you live, as i dislike what the ignorant somalian are doing, i have seen good and upright citizens of the world among them; drs, etc.

When u have done just these two, u can precipitate nd chant 'PEACE PEACE' and nobody would think u are misusing the word. HALLELUYA JESUS has been given power and i can partispate in dat power and Glory.

you need to go to christian haiti and many other backwater christian place before you shout yourself out with Halleluya, a word you will never be able to find Jehovah or Yahweh in, you can easily find Allah/Ellah in it; Read it backward.

Do me a favour, also tell ur brethren that 'death' is only the begining for us becos we have eternal life, bt dat doesnt giv dem any right to play 'God'.
So ur igbo husband is a muslim too?(just asking no offence meant)
Stay blessed!

I am a man.

the boy usain bolt at 6ft 5in with stride of 10 yard/394 ins at the widest. his physical look projects strength, really raw strength. and he is just a shade slower than the quickest but much shorter competitors. what is is doing therefore does not seem to be impossible, based on the above. but coupled with the fact that he not reached the peak of strength, which is at 33 years old. youth is a sign of strength and raw power and no one has found anything but normal in his system nor has anyone suspected him, until the people are now raising the issue. maybe they hate his success which it seems he has achieved by hard work.

@Davidylan:

by davidylan(m): 11:37pm On Oct 28, 2006
The atheist without salvation is no more than a qualified card carrying member of Hell!

and the wrong kind of "SALVATION" carries the same kind of card. Unless by the Mercy of THE ONE GOD WHO CREATED everything, everyone could have been destined for hell if God has not provide the only absolute way of religious guidance for a chance to avoid hell and end up in Paradise. no one is able to escape hell based on good work alone because it is work without Absolute true Faith in God, it is work for worldly reward.

God may give the faithless doer of good work his re-compensation by giving him good health, long and happy life, happy marriage, good children, great wealth, fame and fortune, etc, as God determines. good work alone will not amount to anything on the Day of Assembly.

Wrong faith includes saying God is 3 persons whether you continue to say it is still ONE GOD or denying the obvious that you now have 3 God[s] to many God[s] to tribal God, etc. Absolute Single Faith that is prescribed by God of all creations is "There is no God/god except THE GOD WHO IS THE CREATOR. He has no partner neither in Heavens [unseen, unknown] nor in earth [seen or unseen] or between the two or after the two.

God is unlike the creations and the creation has nothing that is similar to Him.

I am talking to a christian friend as I am typing this: she is telling me a scenario at bible study many years ago concerning the biblical turning the other cheek. turning the other cheek is the pastor allowing a home invader to rap.e his wife, as he was told to watch. the pastor didn't tell them what he will do.

my friend who was the questioner said she said if her husband will turn the other cheek by sitting down and not fighting to prevent the rap.e he will be watching as it is going on, she said she will give her husband a beat and then go back to being rap.ed.

that is the immorality of turning turning the other cheek, regardless of who is reported to have said it and i doubt if a teacher of moral value will say it or where it is written.

my christian friend said that permission to fight now until the enemy laid down his burden of aggression is the best and most moral, over and above the turning the other cheek, or preemptive strike or over beating of your enemy.