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@Tiarabubu: This video is to show you that christians do mention Sheikh Ahmad Deedat: you will hear Sam in 2.23 minutes of this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYFl-mKrbK4

^ Sheikh Ahmad Deedat [ra] of course earned respect while alive and even now that he is dead! His materials as his legacy are there for those whose hearts are alive in true faith to strengthen them. And for those who are with dead hearts if they are seeking a living heart, when they come across his work, they are jolted to consciousness, if they are sincerely seeking the truth.

You asked if any christian has ever quoted him? Try Sam shamoun. His debate with Sheikh Shabir Ally {Is the Bible the Word of God?}, could not end without Sam saying it was Deedat [ra] that Shabir was copying when the issue of donkey like male organ and horse like emission from the male organ was discussed in the Bible if this verse was from God.

Maybe you have been burying your head in local source materials. You should try international arena where the likes of many of your apologetic {Dr Moray included] have been owned using the bible verses.

@Enigma Thanks, sir. Is nice to read your good wishes. I wish you well, too.

@Mr Anony: Sweetnecta was supposed to be sealed nectar. But i couldn't call myself that because its the name for my beloved Muhammad [sa]. Like Abu Kasim, no muslim calls hmself that, even if his first child is Kasim. Abu Kasim is Muhammad [as], who all muslims follow and obey to the fullest among the people who ever walked on earth.
Sola, Yinka, Remi, etc in yoruba land are names for male and female. An unattractive woman could be called handsome. A man with a good heart could be called a beautiful soul.

@Sweetcheeks: Something is tongue and cheeks sometimes. Your statements; op and just above are definitely that.

You don't know that Miracles and not fake miracles are known and experienced daily in the lives of muslims world over.
And Logicboy, and other are not muslims and how they are my bros is beyond me. Maybe this is part of your "miracle".

^ I am a muslim, neither a sunni nor shiya or any other.
I am satisfied in following Muhammad [sa], by following those who are following him, in anything and reject any step that somebody does not follow him, even I will follow the same person in things he is following Muhammad [sa] in.

Muhammad [sa] is the sole single human authority for me. From the Quran can accept or reject a 'hadith' and or part of sirah, when there is opposition to the Quran. Allah also gave me ability to reason. It is the reasoning that I was able to accept stoning guilty person who commits adultery. It is not my place to be judging past muslims, especially when I dont see Allah Judging them and there is no evidence that Muhammad [sa] is sadden about Allah loving these past muslims.

It is Muhammad's love for them that made me love them, including Ali AbiTalib [ra to all of them]. It is love of Muhammad [as] that made me love even Jesus [as] and past messengers and prophets [as], all of the love I can see from the Quran, which it agrees with.

When the supporters of Jesus [as] are described as helpers of Allah in supporting Jesus [as], messenger of Allah, therefore being muslims, it does become irrelevant when the christians call these helpers christians. To them, they were christians, to me they were muslims.

I apply the same to the companions of Muhammad [sa]. Abu Bakr [ra], did not fight Ali [ra]. Yet some people who can't be able to handle their sandals in their love for Allah and His Messenger [sa] abuse them, without any conscience!

Islam got to me from these same people and I am grateful for it and I love them for loving Muhammad [sa]. Allah says follow Muhammad and Allah will love you.

Allah says of these people who participated in the battle of Badr that "they love Allah, and Allah loves them back". I will stand on that, neither being shiya nor sunni. Yet, I will not abuse anyone that Allah does not curse, or any Muhammad [sa] did not get saddened by.

Everyone falls short of perfection. I pray that Allah overlooks the short comings of each and every sincere muslim. The case of hypocrites are different and even Muhammad [sa] did not know who the hypocrites were, but Allah knew each of them.

Concentrate on your life and ability to improve yourself in Ibadah and getting closer to Allah, looking for His Favor and Pleasure, Mercy.

As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah, brothers.
It is ramadhan and you need to make jihad of your own soul/heart, spiritual betterment.

Lets lay down the fighting fingers on the keyboards.

Ramadhan mubarackah.

Sayiddina Ali bin AbiTalib {radiAllahu anh, Karamahu waja}.

No muslim hates him, shiya or not.

I got this from a friend this morning and i thought it may give you a reason to put on the proverbial thinking cap.

"Why should a country with so many churches, so many mosques, where the majority is ostentatiously religious, be so corrupt, so lawless? I was once corrupt. But when spirituality came, all passion for corruption, for lawlessness melted away. I naively assumed all religious people are spiritual. But alas! What majority does is just to repeat some religious beliefs without allowing the words to transform them. Corruption continues. Lawlessness permeates. And righteousness is relegated to oblivion. Some even have the audacity to proclaim that, because Jesus had died for their sins, they are no longer under the law but under grace. Yet our country continues to decay, about to disintegrate."

whats your take?

Sweetcheeks, from her oped shows she does not know anything about Islam!
Miracles happen daily in the lives of Muslims since the advent of the last prophet of Islam, Muhammad [sa]

If you thin Christians have autonomy of belief in God, the muslims surpass what the christians have by saying that God is Uniquely One and can't be seen and does not die and able to handle all affairs by mere commands, including absolute wiping off all sins of the repented sinner, who is made clean from sin.

A better story is narrated to me to have happened to a muslim sufi in a forest.

The Sufi was in a forest. He cried to God to feed him. Then he reclined against a tree. Then came some people who brought a set of pots filled with piping hot different kinds of foods. The sufi looked up and thank God. He said God i want you to feed me.

A moment later, a group horse riding army with their leader fell upon him and the foods. They were hungry and thought if this man has not eaten from the foods, they must be poisoned food as a trap set for their demise.

The leader ordered his army to use the sufi muslim as the guinea pig on the foods. They made a plate from each of the pots and open the mouth of the muslim and fed him, even using their hands to move his mouth in chewing motion. They fed him until his stomach was full. The sufi said 'Thank you God for feeding me'. The army continue to wait to see if there is any sign of sickness from food poison, whereas God has already answered the prayers of this man, even using the enemy of this man or his friend.

Muslims are the single group of believers who believe all the true miracles of God in the lives of creations, prophets of God. We can never be considered as atheists by any group that believe God exists.

wa aleykum salaam wa Rahmatullah wa Barackatuh.

Ramadhan Karim to you and each and every one of the muslims.

Alhamdulillah. Everything is well. Thanks for asking.

I hope you and yours are good wonderfully?

my only response to this questioner is if he can make a 3 sided perfect circle? if he can not then he should look at his question and the reasoning behind it is lacking "good" logic. Allah has made His Presence manifested in each of us even if we ignore everything around us.

While we age and become frail and wither away for another generation to replace us in strength, wisdom and logical knowledge, Allah is opposite He does not age, wither, frail away, replaced by another, etc. He is perfect from before the beginning and shall be so even after the ending. There is no diminishing in Him or about Him.

Just like He said that it does not befit the Majesty of God to have a son, so it does not befit Him to engage in manual labor like in the "moving of a rock!" Ford motors does not create a vehicle that can not be driven. Everything that is designed by a designer must be from the knowledge of the designer, including the weakness[es] of what was designed.

It is impossible for God to die, etc. In the same vein, it is impossible that God is in the realm of those who can not control everything. We call those with limitation[s], creations. It does not befit God to behave like creation who can not create anything, can not move anything if God does not want them to.

my only response to this questioner is if he can make a 3 sided perfect circle? if he can not then he should look at his question and the reasoning behind it is lacking "good" logic. Allah has made His Presence manifested in each of us even if we ignore everything around us.

While we age and become frail and wither away for another generation to replace us in strength, wisdom and logical knowledge, Allah is opposite He does not age, wither, frail away, replaced by another, etc. He is perfect from before the beginning and shall be so even after the ending. There is no diminishing in Him or about Him.

Just like He said that it does not befit the Majesty of God to have a son, so it does not befit Him to engage in manual labor like in the "moving of a rock!" Ford motors does not create a vehicle that can not be driven. Everything that is designed by a designer must be from the knowledge of the designer, including the weakness[es] of what was designed.

It is impossible for God to die, etc. In the same vein, it is impossible that God is in the realm of those who can not control everything. We call those with limitation[s], creations. It does not befit God to behave like creation who can not create anything, can not move anything if God does not want them to.

@Tiarabubu; are christians really charitable in sincerity because of their strict adherent to Jesus?
Hardly, I dare say and i will give you many examples.

From my own family: the first to graduate university was encouraged to abandon Islam, in spite of his being a person who had memorized a good portion of the Holy Text. He was the first christian in my father's family and now all his branch is christian. I am beginning to work on them, telling then to prove to me if Jesus was christian or they are following him to the letter and spirit of the letter and if Jesus is God or really different from any of the Biblical prophets: greater than Moses in Miracles? Greater than John in being sinless [so point out a single sin committed by John or his father, both met tragic ends in the hands of children of Israel]? Devotion to God than John, his father, etc? Wiser than Solomon? A warrior for God than David? Closer to God than Abraham who God says is His Friend [Jews, Christians and Muslims accept this and each claim to be following the faith of Abraham, not the faith of Jesus]? There are many aspects I can challenge you on. But the above are enough for now.

An older friend of mine from Ijebu Iperu told me that his grandfather was the first Imam of this village and donated land to build the first Mosque. He his a christian now. SO I asked how do you end up becoming a christian? He told me that his father was the only educated among his generation. The christian folks told him that he must become a christian before they will allow him in school.

Sudan: The christians will give sour candy to a child. the sour candy will be named Muhammad. They will ask the child whose face is telling the story if he is enjoying the candy? They then give him very sweet and lickable "Warther Original" type candy. Unfortunately, one of its ingredient is from pig. The little boy pops in his mouth and his face says he is happy. They then tell hi this is from Jesus!

Tiarabubu, this is your honesty in conversion and good work; where sexually hungry young men are now thrown in the middle of young white girls with few chest bottons are let loose and nothing to prevent the candy for adults under the light summer wears.

The ignorance of humans and the evil dominations of others have prevented muslims from fully exercising the charitability encouraged in the Quran and the example of the Prophet [s]. The west, today will limit the actions of muslims who may be willing to equal the "charity" of the christians. Jews can cry discriminations and persecutions. Hindus can say the same. What can the muslim say, especially when fro within our rank, you ahve some who are completely against Islam by their actions.


Special notice: The brother who wrote me, may Allah reward you of your effort. I do appreciate you thining about me. Salaamualaykum.

@Tiarabubu; are christians really charitable in sincerity because of their strict adherent to Jesus?
Hardly, I dare say and i will give you many examples.

From my own family: the first to graduate university was encouraged to abandon Islam, in spite of his being a person who had memorized a good portion of the Holy Text. He was the first christian in my father's family and now all his branch is christian. I am beginning to work on them, telling then to prove to me if Jesus was christian or they are following him to the letter and spirit of the letter and if Jesus is God or really different from any of the Biblical prophets: greater than Moses in Miracles? Greater than John in being sinless [so point out a single sin committed by John or his father, both met tragic ends in the hands of children of Israel]? Devotion to God than John, his father, etc? Wiser than Solomon? A warrior for God than David? Closer to God than Abraham who God says is His Friend [Jews, Christians and Muslims accept this and each claim to be following the faith of Abraham, not the faith of Jesus]? There are many aspects I can challenge you on. But the above are enough for now.

An older friend of mine from Ijebu Iperu told me that his grandfather was the first Imam of this village and donated land to build the first Mosque. He his a christian now. SO I asked how do you end up becoming a christian? He told me that his father was the only educated among his generation. The christian folks told him that he must become a christian before they will allow him in school.

Sudan: The christians will give sour candy to a child. the sour candy will be named Muhammad. They will ask the child whose face is telling the story if he is enjoying the candy? They then give him very sweet and lickable "Warther Original" type candy. Unfortunately, one of its ingredient is from pig. The little boy pops in his mouth and his face says he is happy. They then tell hi this is from Jesus!

Tiarabubu, this is your honesty in conversion and good work; where sexually hungry young men are now thrown in the middle of young white girls with few chest bottons are let loose and nothing to prevent the candy for adults under the light summer wears.

The ignorance of humans and the evil dominations of others have prevented muslims from fully exercising the charitability encouraged in the Quran and the example of the Prophet [s]. The west, today will limit the actions of muslims who may be willing to equal the "charity" of the christians. Jews can cry discriminations and persecutions. Hindus can say the same. What can the muslim say, especially when fro within our rank, you ahve some who are completely against Islam by their actions.


Special notice: The brother who wrote me, may Allah reward you of your effort. I do appreciate you thining about me. Salaamualaykum.

Is There Not A Creator? by Sweetnecta: 17 hours & 31 minutes

This is the title of the thread that Jenwitemi termed a muslim thread, so much so that somebody from Nairaland organization moved it to the Muslim section.

I wonder what makes it a muslim thread from the title? Is God Almighty the exclusive property of Muslims, hence it can't be discussed in the general and so called Christian section?

Is the thread a muslim thread because it is started by a muslim to discuss God? Do the Christians not believe in God? Di the Jews or even the pagans? If Jenwitemi can determine where threads about God can go by his pushing any of you 4 persons that are connected to managing the boards, I now leave your organization for you and him.

To anyone who wishes to reach me, someday I will begin a blog or website to talk about God and anything that will benefit mankind an the progress of this earth that we are custodians, by the Mercy of God. In the main time, i can be reached through email; GALADIMALOU@AOL.COM.

The Yorubas believe there is One God.

What they worship Him through as god on earth/physically representing Him is another matter.

I am yoruba and I ought to know.

And I am not advocating anything here except that there is God, Who I have called Creator.
I am using Quran at least for the most part to advance my position on this matter.

In all your knowledge, Kay17, you have not provided any evidence that there is no God.

A medical person, specifically a doctor who opens an ancient text like the Quran to read about creation of man in the womb should at least reflect upon it because his/her education is basically about humans. He is not an astronomer that he will know about heavenly bodies still under the canopy of heavens. He is not a geologist that he will know so much about what is beneath the earth surface.

His work is a full load and man is enough to worry about. As I wanted to use Surah Alaq to make a point, I saw surah Insan that sets the stage for minds to at least ponder how this man, Muhammad [as] could even consider the possible creation of man?

Surah Qalam speaks about a point in time that man took up the use of pen, writing. Yet in Surah Abassa, Muhammad [as] was cautioned. A man who wished to be lionized and made a hero would not caution himself for mere turning his face from an one who is asking question.

All of these are indicator that the mandate of Muhammad [as] must come from a source, an Authority he can not disobey or tender any argument. The Quran calls the Authority Allah.

The Jews, Christians believe that there is a Single God, Lord of all creation. The christians in their trinity acknowledges a singular Creator, the reason they say He created all things through and for. It is their Trinity concept and the through and for that we in Islam disagree with. Every people, monotheist or polytheist believe in God that is Supremely Powerful and creates as part of Hid overall rights and Lordship.


The kings of yoruba land will indulge in fetish things. Through fetish indulgence, the pray the all powerful single God. What right does anyone therefore has to deny this singular God, except the right of freewill that God imbibed in us to accept or reject Him?

@Kay17:

by Kay 17: 13 minutes & 56 seconds
Although you answered just one of my questions, but pls stop accusing me of denial. I wasnt born a muslim neither do I see reason and sense in Islam. If islam was the right religion, intellect would have been sufficient to understand it, not faith or mystery. I don't think revelations make any sense other than the ppl its made too. The Prophet Muhammed can't speak for God if there is one, neither can you speak for both of them.

Also different religions have different ideas on a GRand Creator, because all share an english name God, doesn't mean they are the same, they all have different personalities.

I am a yoruba man. While I called you a denier, it was not on the premise of Islam, but on the premise of you denying that God does not exist and the bold is a testament to it.

About the bold, tell me why you say Muhammad [as] can not speak for God?

@Logic mind: Call me Yoruba instead of aboki since I am yoruba. My igbo princess laughs about the igbos calling her husband ofemmenu.

@mkmyers45:

by mkmyers45(m): 13 hours & 8 minutes

Sweetnecta: cries of baby can caused by a host of conditions. One of them is because he is scared. You are neither hungry nor irritated when you are scared.

Since you are a human being, it is the free will that God gave you that you are using to conclude in your own mind that He does not exist. That does not mean that you are absolutely correct.

You may be absolutely incorrect. This is my position and you have not provided evidence that I am wrong based on what I posted from the Quran.

what freewill? Where is it in the Qu'ran? The god who created satan and failed to destroy him? You might be right but im sure you're wrong.....You cannot asert your view point by a bare faith in your heart but by logical reasoning through rationalism.

Freewill Freedom to choose. Allah says there is no compulsion in religion [Chapter 2 verse 256]. Allah says if it was My wish, I could have made everyone a believer. But I do not want any to say I force him to belief [in Me].
And Allah did not destroy satan by His saying to the angels in Surah 2 starting from 36 to about 45 about the creation of Adam and the bringing about the hidden hatred of satan for obedience and order. Then in Surah Araf, starting from say verse 12 to 18, you will see why God let satan remained. Please pay attention to verses 18 and 19. The content of verse 18 shows that Allah the Almighty knows that the children of Adam and Eve will follow satan and most will be not repent and die on that pattern of life of arrogance, disbeleif.

Verse 19 says to Adam and Eve to dwell in a garden of Paradise and not to come close to a tree that by it they would be wrong doers. Allah has predicted the future of the children of Adam and Eve by verse 18 and warned their parents of preventing even calamity to themselves by verse 19. We see in following verses and the whole of Quran that Adam and Eve failed, then repented by seeking forgiveness by what Alla inspired in them. They were granted the forgiveness and never again went astray [if you know any sin committed by Adam and or Eve after this, please tell us].

The children of Adam and Eve, we the humans were given guidance by what happened to Adan and Eve, and in successive nations and generations, prophets and Messengers [as] with revelations and reformations. We were given a single world wide Messenger Prophet in the person of Muhammad [as] and the Quran to be the last authority from God to man for from the time it reaches you till the end of your life.

This case is similar in rationalism loosely to a student, his teacher and the President of the school. The student, as soon as he gains admission begins to learn that there are rules and order to follow. The student will be punished for disobeying these rules and order. If the student for example result into cutting classes by following the example of a shopkeeper who hates books, the student will not progress to the next level of academics. His tuition is a waste. He may be expelled. The teacher is supposed to teach him the course work so that it can keep serious and obedient student grounded and not wholeheartedly follow the market man who hates to see him become the doctor that will mend patients when they are sick.

The teachers for your street man mentality is Prophet or Messenger of God. These Messengers and prophets [as] got their mission [work book and instruction] from God, The President over all.

@Kay17;

by Kay 17: 59 minutes & 50 seconds

Sweetnecta: There is God says the Bible.

Now, that's not Quran.


But you find the bible errorenous! If Creation is physical and Creator is spiritual, where did the Creation get its substance??

Also why is it necessary for an omnipotent being to design in an arena of nothing??

At least both the old and new testaments believe the existence of God. Remember they; the jews and christians and even hindus, etc believe there is God. They are not like you in your denial of existence of God. Many of them are moved to do greater good than the great good you may do by their belief, while you do your good out of your own ego of i am better or have the way with it all over the one that will benefit from the good I am doing.

Your guy asked me to show God existence apart from QUran. I showed that the Bible testaments believe in God. Even the Hindus believe in God. My tribe; the yorubas, both monotheists muslims and christians and even the animist pagans believe in existence of God. It is your type in your tribe that do not believe in existence of God. Go ask people of your tribe: even the animists among them.

The above shows that you are a denier. You know the truth but arrogantly denies or covers it up.

@Jenwitemi:

by Jenwitemi(m): 2 hours & 2 minutes
And why post this one on here?. Don't you have your own forum to post on? You guys nearly invcoked fatwah on Seun to get your own forum but you still won't post there. Why?

Invoking fatwa on Seun was not my handwork or did I know anything about it, its planning and reasons. I am here now to awaken your senses, your conscience. Perhaps, they may not be dead yet. We are bringing you Words from your Lord, perchance you may ponder. If you have visited the muslim section and the arguments of no God was ever put in there, we would have pointed out to you that there is absolutely a God. Though you can never see Him while you are a living man, He definitely sees you and you will never be able to hide or be out of His reach, control forever.

And when you die, at the point of death you will see His signs that you will not be allowed to report back to those who are not experiencing death with you. He may never speak with you on the day of assembly which you deny now by saying that you will not be raised up, one of your underpinnings about no God in existence. You will be powerless even more than when your parents got together to work on themselves that resulted to mommy's pregnancy that you came by.

@Moderator: Don't pay attention to Jenwitemi. The thread was not meant solely for him. Even if that was the case, he could easily ignore it instead of begging you for rescue. Thank God Jenwitemi is not God because he may definitely not allow us to make mistake and at the end forgive us simply because we sincerely sort mercy. He may ask us for ransom of unbelievable proportion; death of many holy persons.

let me bring it home: every african tribe believes there is God and has a Name for Him.

in yoruba land we say Oluwa.

not from the jewish perspective.

There is God says the Bible.

Now, that's not Quran.

what baffles me is the Jesus who is their lord, author and finisher of their religion is not always the last word for christians.

Paul is always is. The same Paul who never was a disciple suddenly became the apostle that overrides each and all the disciples.

Even overrides Jesus in many instances.

cries of baby can caused by a host of conditions. One of them is because he is scared. You are neither hungry nor irritated when you are scared.

Since you are a human being, it is the free will that God gave you that you are using to conclude in your own mind that He does not exist. That does not mean that you are absolutely correct.

You may be absolutely incorrect. This is my position and you have not provided evidence that I am wrong based on what I posted from the Quran.

^^^^the cries of babies are more than because they are hungry and or irritated.

You have a lot to learn when you become a parent, just like the one denying God will have a lot to learn that truly God exists more than asking Him to be physical.

Quran simply affirms what instinctively man knows in his makeup about God. Yet, man often denies what he knows. Lying to himself.

From the Quran, God says He is the Creator of all. So He qualifies Himself as the Best of creators because man when he designs a thing that God has given him, he thinks he has created it, forgetting all that he used; raw materials, designing tools and his knowledge are all from God. It is the same God that all of them will return at sometimes in the future when they all break down; product and human designer.

Allah therefore says He is the Creator of humans and all that man creates.

Is there another creator apart from God? God answers in the Quran that there is no other. He then says that in all the arrogance of man/creations if you will they can not individually or collectively create a fly; housefly. And to make this point clear to all, He says if the housefly takes food from man in all the empty power of man, man can not get it back from the fly. This statement is so profound that I wonder how is it possible that man can not get his food back from a mere house fly that may be unable to lift the grain of cooked rice that it landed on? I later discovered that house fly vomits on the food, dissolving it and suck the dissolved food. The reality is that when the vomit of the house fly touches the meal, it starts a chemical reaction so that the fly can take away the food from man by sucking it up. www.answering-christianity.com/fly_digestive_miracle.htm.

Until man in his boast can prevent himself from dying, if not by aging, definitely by some accident, man is weak. A weak specie that will not know what becomes the future of the earth when he is dead can't say he knows what will happen to him in the grave, after death has overtaking him.

Does dead man feel pain? Only dead can know that just like I a baby in the womb know how those of us on the earth feel or why a little baby in the crib is crying. Those who say there is no God, here is your weakness.

A long straight line or a curve is made of points or dots.

The idea that horizon is truly away from Kaaba when it flies over it is silly for many reasons:

1]. Kaaba must be accepted as the center, the reason that going around it on upper levels higher than it is acceptable.

2]. It could be assumed that it reaches higher than the physical height because no one will be allowed to build any thing on the space above its top.

3]. if you construct the shortest smooth curve on the surface of the earth from your position to reach the Kaaba, that is the direction and path for you.

Kaaba, the Qibla of the muslims for all Islamic reasons and locations is accepted to extend to heavens and touch Bait Mamur.

You can not lie on your stomach or your back to make salah.

There is no reason to stand on Kaaba or go under it to make salat, because you are right there, anyway.


@Logic mind: How are you, mehn? You doing good?

logic mind, you are losing it.

lying down may be an option for you.
but for us in Islam, no one must sleep on his stomach and prayers, are forbidden in this position, too. In salat you stand, sit, lay on your side, but not lying on your stomach.

There is nothing except one thing you can do in that position; what husband and wife do.

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line as Mai Suya stated.

When you make a bow, the arc of the bow is longer than the string that ties the two ends of the stick. Imagine the man standing at one end and Kaaba in Makka is the other end. If the man faces The Kaaba end, what you will realize is that the curved arc is the surface of the earth. However the string in tension is straight and if you have the way with it all to borrow a tunnel using it as guide, you will be looking at the Kaaba, facing it.


If you face away from it and get to Maaka by a larger arc, you will face a larger [arc earth surface] curve and you will not see Kaaba because you will have decide by shear ignorance to turn your back to the correct straight line that will get you to see the Kaaba, the Qibla your heart loved.

@Logic mind; The directly opposite point of the Center of the Kaaba is the only point on earth you can face anywhere and you will be facing the Kaaba. That is just a point on the other side.
However inside the Kaaba, you can face anywhere.
Outside the Kaaba in its vicinity, in Makaa, etc, you must face Kaaba.

If you Logic mind think that people can gather in circle outwardly on the other side of the Kaaba and focus on the center point that I stated above, you have intentionally created for yourself a Qibla that is not a Qibla. The True Qiba is the Kaaba located in Masjid Haraam, in the City of Makka in a country called Saudi Arabia.