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@Backslider,

All this roundabout moves you are making does not even address the issue here. What has a broken and contrite heart got to do with this topic? Are you saying that poverty is the panacea for pride, meekness and spirituality? Please make a distinct sound so we could deal with the issue and not keep adressing irrelevant issues that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

@topic,

I do not know how someone can look at the life of Jesus in the NT and conclude that He was poor! What is poverty and what is riches? Poverty is the lack of means to obtain that which your heart desires. Riches is the ability to be free from want.

Can anyone prove to me in the Bible where Jesus wanted something and He didn't get it? Where was He begging for food? Was He in rags? He had full supply of everything and anything He wanted. That my friend is being rich!

While it can be proven that Mary and Joseph were poor at the time Jesus was born and dedicated, their status changed about 2 years later after the visit by the Maggi. Do you know the value of the gold that the Maggi presented to Jesus has been estimated to be worth $400 million today?

With respect to the scripture that He became poor that we might become rich. I find it funny that people who claim Christians are meant to be poor will be so hypocritical to quote this scipture. The end product of Jesus being poor was for you to be rich. So if He you are not rich, it therefore means His sacrifice for you is in vain. But a proper studying of that scripture reveals that it was just a comparison of Jesus in Heaven to Jesus on earth. He is waited on in Heaven, walking on the streets of gold etc. He gave up all that when he came to earth. Both relationship can only be compared in the sense of poverty and riches. SELAH!

@Big B1,

Can you please itemize the impeachable offences commited by Bush? You need to back up your list with the relevant laws that were violated. That you want him impeached does not mean he deserves it.

@ettehgate,

Why the naming of names and not addressing the issue? These tendencies to run around in circles is making nairaland uninspiring. We are meant to discuss issues and not get hung up on personalities. Please desist from these acts.

@topic,

How can Bush sleep after this visit?

He's being suffereing from insomnia since 911!!

@mrpataki,

I am totally short of words for this skunk called Afam. At the moment, I am in a five weeks energy management course, and we have different people from different nations represented. You need to see the way Indians talk about the Energy Policy in their country. Even Indonesia!

It's interesting that I am also attending a seminar right now for Professionals in the Power Industry in Minnesota and beyond. I was also amazed by the fact that just yesterday, an Indian addressed the gathering, and today, we had a Chinese woman do the same. You will be amazed what is going on around the world with respect to power generation and transmission.

I was just going through an article online that mentioned the fact that power generation in Nigeria has dropped to just about 2,500MW. I couldn't help but compare this to the amount of wind power that was and is being generated in the US under the administration of the so-called "slowpoke" called Bush. For instance, the wind power that was generated in the US. in 2005 alone is about 2,400MW. This was the highest generated in the world and is almost the same as the entire generating capacity of Nigeria as a whole. The same amout of wind power was generated in 2006 as well.  So I am left wondering, Who is the real slowpoke?!  

It is very funny that despite their noise, Al Gore and Clinton only genrated less than 1,000 MW of wind energy while they were in power. Bush has not even finished his second term and the US-intalled wind power capacity has grown fivefold since he came to power. Again I ask, who is the real slowpoke?!

The US. is frantically developing alternative sources of energy and improving technology to harness renewable sources and forms of energy. The motor vehicle industry here is almost perfecting the electrical cars with the major limitation being the batteries. It is anticipated that the world supply of crude oil won't last 40 years if we continue to tap at the present rate of 1,000 barrels per second. The US has 2% of the world's proven oil reserves (not counting the untapped ones), she has excellent relationship with Canada (which has the second highest oil reserves in the world) and Mexico (ranked 8th highest oil reserves). The same US has 3% of the world's natural gas reserves and 27% of the world's recoverable coal reserves.

Considering that Naija's major and almost only source of revenue is this depleting oil, and the same revenue is being spirited away to the western countries by corrupt Leeches we call Leaders, I just beg to ask the question again: WHO IS THE REAL slowpoke?!

Nigeria will play france today, a win will guarantee a quaterfinal place

Nigeria Won France on penalties. 3-3 at regulation time and 3-2 after penalties.

@Presido1,

As an independent scientist you are please let me know what you have discovered as i know some from Issac newton, Michael faraday and the rest.

I'm not a Scientist, but an Engineer, and I can tell by your statement that you know nothing next to science.

Mind u in science we don't assume.

Like I said before, your statement betrays your lack of knowledge. Do you want to retract this statement or you'd rather have us expose your lack of knowledge on the world wide web?

@Afam,

And the mumu Nigerians go dey blindly support them like sheep wey no get legal adviser,

Tufiakwa for brainless people.

You never fail to live up to expectation Afam. Again and again, you are sure to lower the standard of a debate. Next time please try and make sure we at least get to the second page before you show your true colour.

@RichyBlack,

Please explain to me why the foreign minister of Israel will have exclusive audience with the following:
1. the US Secretary of State
2. the US Defense Secretary
3. the US President

To discuss the price of potatoes?

That could be for a number of reasons. The most logical is to discuss the continued stationing of Egyptian forces around Isreal. And by the way, the same Egypt ejected the UN forces that were stationed between Egypt and Isreal. Your accusations and permutations does not hold water as long as Russia said no British or American help came to Isreal during the conflict. Which kain revision you wan put on history so? Please stop the spin okay?

The problem with your twisted way of reasoning is that you think wars are like weddings, with a pre-determined date. Na wa for some people! So, you think that a meeting held on 26 May 1967 cannot have any bearing on the Six-Day War that started on 5 June 1967, because "it's too late, the wedding date is so close! How useful will such a meeting be?".

Even key figures in the United States were surprised by Israel's action:

"US Secretary of State Dean Rusk was bitterly disappointed by Israel's pre-emptive strike on 5 June as he thought he might have been able to find a diplomatic solution if the meeting had gone ahead."

Can't you see how you keep shooting yourself in the foot? (and blaming Isreal for it by the way) First you provided information that shows that the US will neither confirm or deny a report despite Isreal seeking for it. Now you show that the US was angry that Isreal went to war when the US was seeking a diplomatic solution. Does that sound like someone providing information?

Irrelevant! I made no such statements or claims about ancient Israel's location.

I never said you made the statement. I only pointed out the similarity between the way you think and that person's. and by the way, where is the ancient isreal's location? Maybe you can enlightene us further.

The truth that your camp is running away from is that:
1. Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian territories.
2. Israel MUST return to the pre-1967 borders before there will be true peace in the Middle-East, that is, they have to give up the West Bank.
3. That Israel's subjugation of the Palestinian people is equivalent to or worse than what blacks in South Africa suffered under the Apartheid regime.
4. That the state of Israel has sponsored many terrorist activities, including political assassinations, kidnapping, cold-blooded murder, massacres, infanticide, etc.
5. That Israel and its ally, the US, have used the holocaust to emotionally hold the world to ransom, believing that Hitler's dastardly actions against Jews have put them (Israel) on a pedestal where they can do no wrong, no matter what!

You would do well to obtain all facts before crying wolf. Let us start with AD 70 when Titus invaded and destoyed Jerusalem. is that the same Jerusalem that the palestines are crying for today? Are these same Palestines the once who fought against Titus to maintain the territorial integrity of Jerusalem? Why are you so hung up on 1967 when there was war in 1948? Let's not maintain this state of selective amnesia and deal with eveything in totality!

May we be alive to see a free, independent, and thriving Palestinian state. God willing!

There are at least 2 States already formed from palestine - Jordan and Isreal. So your wish is already fulfilled. 

@Presido1,

Abeg go siddon somewhere. You can't even defend your statment but rather fall back on what someone else says. When are our people going to learn to think independently based on the laws of science and common sense?

@presido1,

Do you have wind in a vacuum?

It is good for people to understand a concept before they just write. Assuming the moon was indeed a vacuum, is it not obvious to you that it ceases to be one as soon as Russia and America set foot on it? Please think a bit!

@Richyblack,

I can see that you're hell-bent on distorting facts and pushing a revisionist agenda. Are you trying to say that the US could not have supplied military intelligence to their Middle-East ally, Israel? Are you doubting America's support for Israel? Even toddlers understand the concept of an alliance.

Of course they could have supplied information, but they didn't. If you had bothered to read a bit more extensively, you would have found out that Russia who allied with the Arabs informed them that they have no evidence that US and Britain provided any support to Isreal during the conflict. Are we now to make a case against them based on what you say as "they could have?"

On 26 May 1967[color=#000099][/color], Israeli Foreign Minister Abba Eban landed in Washington with the goal of ascertaining from the American administration its position in the event of the outbreak of war. As soon as Eban arrived, he was handed a cable from the Israeli government. The cable said that Israel had learned of an Egyptian and Syrian plan to launch a war of annihilation against Israel within the next 48 hours. Eban met with Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, and finally with President Johnson. The Americans said their intelligence sources could not corroborate the claim; the Egyptian positions in the Sinai remained defensive.

Now this is very funny. The six day war was in June 1967, and you provide us with a conversation that took place in May as evidence of US support for Isreal during the war? Y'all are getting funnier by the day. Besides, the statement you provided clearly indicates that the US neither confirmed nor deny the request made by Isreal. Are you that far-gone in your hatred for Isreal that you can't analyse simple statements objectively?

It appears your camp are egaer to hold on to your position no matter what. First someone said the ancient Isreal is located in Europe and America, and the rest of you are sidestepping simple questions about Titus invasion of Jerusalem in AD70. At least this is not from the Bible, and I was hoping people in search of facts will want to deal with it, but it appears I am mistaken.

You no what? The truth is at both ends of a continuum. No matter whether you run away from it or to it, you will eventually find yourself face-to-face with it. Una sabi dribble well well, but in the end, simple questions like this will leave a gaping hole in your logic and you may either lie to cover it or side-step it to face it another day.

@Richyblack,

Another Zionist lie. The United States aided Israel in both wars. US military intelligence provided valuable information to Israel during both wars. There was nothing single-handedly about that. Please stop these lies!

I'm beginning to think that your eyes are failing you. How can anyone with an iota of gray matter confuse "military intelligence" with "soldiers"? I seriously question your intellect.

I can see you are hell bent on propagating a proven lie. Here is the conversation intercepted between Nasser and King Husseing by the IDF during the aftermath of the war. I have provided a little background too. this is from Wikipedia.

Outside of the Arab world, reports of American and British military intervention were not taken seriously. Britain, the US. and Israel strenuously denied the allegations and the Soviet Union quickly informed Cairo that their intelligence indicated that the American military was not participating in the conflict. On 8 June, Egyptian credibility was further damaged when Israel released an audio recording to the press, which they claimed was a radio-telephone conversation intercepted two days earlier between Nasser and King Hussein of Jordan.[126]

Nasser: , Shall we include also the United States? Do you know of this, shall we announce that the US. is cooperating with Israel?
Hussein: Hello. I do not hear, the connection is the worst - the line between you and the palace of the King from which the King is speaking is bad.
Nasser: Hello, will we say the US. and England or just the US.?
Hussein: The US. and England.
Nasser: Does Britain have aircraft carriers?
Hussein: (Answer unintelligible).
Nasser: Good. King Hussein will make an announcement and I will make an announcement. Thank you,  Will his Majesty make an announcement on the participation of Americans and the British?
Hussein: (Answer not intelligible).
Nasser: By God, I say that I will make an announcement and you will make an announcement and we will see to it that the Syrians will make an announcement that American and British airplanes are taking part against us from aircraft carriers. We will issue an announcement, we will stress the matter and we will drive the point home.

You can see the people you are supporting. They are nothing less than blackmailers. Lies, terrorism and all vices are encouraged. The end always justifies the means for them.

@Afam,

I think you should stick to what you do best - getting hung on personalities. Your attempt to remotely discuss the issue here has revealed just how much you know about this topic - NOTHING. Now  where do I begin to educate you?

Twice it was reported that the plan to create a Jewish state was based on dividing the land of Palestine. Palestine not Israel was being debated and planned to be divided.

Let me show you how stupid this statement is by this example. Your statement is equivalent to someone saying: "I wish to divide up Lagos without touching Ikeja". Ikeja is part of Lagos as much as Isreal is part of Palestine. The Palestine refered to by the UN refers to the British Mandate of Palestine which includes present-day Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. No wonder you are so muddled up when you do not know this difference.

He went further and asked people to show him where the biblical land of Israel was situated? The question simply goes to show how myopic, stupid and silly just one person can be at the same time and yet still believes he is making sense.

My question is very simple and I'll appreciate you providing an answer. "Where is the Jerusalem that Titus seized from the Jews in AD70 located. Your attempt to turn this historical event into what it is not is not going to hide your ignorance.

@Richyblack,

Okay, Tayo-D, can you answer that very simple question?

To answer the question, I will need to put it in the context of what happened in at least 1937 and 1947 when your Arab allies refused the UN plan. Perhaps you want to give us the answer then so we could bring 1948 into that context.

@Richyblack,

1. Has Israel done anything wrong since 1948?

Why the selective amnesia now? Why not go back as far as 1937 when the same Arabs refused UN's plan for a two State solution? So how about their refusal in 1947? Those event do not support your agenda baa?

If you are really interested in the origin of the ME conflict and its solution, you will have to go way back. But if you are only interested in scoring cheap political points, then you will begin from somewhere like 1948 or better still, 1967.

@Richyblack,

May we be alive to see a sovereign and independent Palestine!

Well, as long as the Arabs do not continually shoot themselves in the foot as proven by history, then we will likely see it happen. Now let me show you the history of the 2 State plan as provided in Wikipedia.

The Peel Commission report of 1937 envisioned a partition of the British Mandate of Palestine area into three sections: Arab, Jewish, and a small continued Mandate area (effectively under international control), containing Jerusalem. The Arab leadership rejected the plan, while the Jewish leadership, while not accepting it, wished to use it as a basis for further negotiation. [2]

The next major proposal to suggest a partition was the 1947 UN Partition plan for the division of Palestine. It also proposed a three-way division, again with Jerusalem held separately, under international control. It too was rejected by the leadership of Arab nations and the Palestinian leadership at the time, although this plan was accepted by the Jewish inhabitants.

Security Council resolutions dating back to 1976 supporting the two state solution based on the pre-1967 lines were vetoed by the USA. The idea has had overwhelming support in the UN General Assembly since the mid 1970's.

Some Palestinians, as well as some Arab states have stated that they would accept a 2-state solution based on pre-1967 lines. Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran, however, continue to call for the "liberation" of all of "historic" Palestine from the "Zionist Entity." While Hamas has recently offered a 10-year "hudna", or truce, contingent on Israel returning to the 1967 lines, they have stated publicly they would leave the ultimate solution to the conflict open to "future generations", thus leaving open the possibility that a solution based on the 1967 lines would not suffice, and they have steadfastly refused to alter their Charter, which explicitly calls for the destruction of the Jewish State and its replacement with an Islamic Theocracy.

Now will you please wake up to the smell of coffee brewing?

@Tornadoz,

Perhaps if Israel was located in Africa as was suggested then you would have been bleating it was in the holy book. There's always a dodgy part of the bible to quote and reference.

Common, I expect a better argument than the one you are putting forth. If you say the present day Palestine isn't the Isreal of old, where exactly is that Isreal? Where is the Jerusalem that historians agree was invaded by Titus in AD 70 and inhabited mostly by Jews? That is one question that will continually stare at you in the face no matter how much you want to dribble away from it. You have rejected the most documented history of the Jews represented in the Bible, and have also laughed at the testimony of Archeology, so I can't help but wonder if you do not better fit the descriptions of those you deem affected solely by religious or whatever sentiments, and not by facts.

@Tornadoz,

There home is in Europe and America, certainly not in the middle east. You still have more Jews in New York than you have in Israel.

Now this is getting interesting. What claims do the Jews have to Europe and America? Are you telling us that it was the territorial integrity of Europe or perhaps America that the Zealots and the Sacariis defended with their lives when Titus invaded in AD70? So Jerusalem is now in Italy and Samaria is now in Texas. Perhaps the River Jordan is actually River Mississippi. And I thought I've heard it all on nairaland.

@Tornadoz,

Can you please tell us where the biblical land of Isreal, the home of the Jews is located? If you have problems believing it is the land of Palestine, please provide your proof where you think it is located. Claiming you are right by saying others are wrong without providing proofs of your stance is a lazy way to go intellectually.

The question I have for you is this "where is the Jerusalem that Titus invaded in AD 70 located? I hope you know this is a verifiable historical event that is not reecorded in the Bible.

@RichyBlack,

May we be alive to see a sovereign and independent Palestine!

So who has been rejecting the UN proposal for a 2-State solution - the Arabs or Isreal?

@Pilgrim1,

I do not agree with you on where the dead saints are right now. Let's attend to your points one at a time.

Dear brother donnie: first the saints who were raised from the dead went into the city and appeared unto many - they were not taken into heaven with Christ:

Indeed the Saints arose and were seen in Jerusalem as testified in Matthew. But where did they go afterward? Were they sent back into Abraham's bosom? I think not.

Second, Ephesians 4:8 was not referring to the redeemed; but rather, it refers to the triumph of Christ over the diabolic host of Satan's domain - the devil himself, death, sin, demons, spiritual wickedness in high places, principalities and powers. In declaring the victories of Christ, the apostle Paul was using a language construct of war imageries that was well-familiar to his recipients at the time. Analogous to this imagery is the call we find in Judg. 5:12 --

While I understand the tradition of the Victorious that you are talking about, the context of Ephesians does not support that this is what Paul was refering to. The Bible declares that Jesus took those in captivity with Him up to heaven. Verse 9 mentioned that He went to the land of the dead for that sole purpose. Demons don't live in Hades but in the air. The captives He took with Him were Abraham and the other Saints. Though justified by faith, they could not yet enter heaven until Jesus sacrifice was complete.

Even Christ Himself used such constructs - which was simply the understanding that a 'stronger' man plunders the enemy before he divides the spoils:

You've only butressed my point by this statement. Jesus plundered Hades of its prized possession - the Saints.

That was precisely what Christ did - for He spoiled the enemy, the result of which we read in the NT:

It wasn't Satan that was holding the Saints down in Hades. Remember Lazarus telling the rich guy that there was a gulf that kept them from each other. Neither Satan nor the demons live in Hades or Hell to fight Jesus or keep Him from taking the captives with Him on His way to heaven. The Angels who live in Tatarus are in chains and couldn't fight Him either. If there was any fight between Jesus and the demons, it will have to be in the air.

From all indications, the collective testimony of Scripture does not lead one to the inference that those who rose from the dead in Matthew 27:52-53 were taken into heaven. Not so. . . for we are given to understand that they also were alive for a certain time on earth while Christ was in heaven (1 Cor. 15:6); for in God's providence, they couldn't be made perfect and be in heaven without us (Hebrews 11:40).

You must be mixing up some few things here. 1 Cor 15:6 does not refer to these Saints but to the Disciples of Jesus. As for Hebrews 11:40, the basis for making these Saints perfect was accomplished after Jesus's death and resurrection. so if they are now made perfect, then they will be in heaven with us, and not in Hades. Like paul said, once we are absent in the body now, we will be present with the Lord.

Now let's read further in Hebrews 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect If you look at the role-call there in Zion, the Church is regarded as a separate entity from the spirits of just men made perfect. In other words. The Church represents the believers of our days who go straight up to be with the Lord in heaven when we sleep. The spirits of the just men made perfect are those rescuesd from Abraham's bosom who are made perfect with us as mentioned in Hebrews 11:40.

@pcmecon,

We have dealt with this issu before. Your accepting propaganda as facts does not make it so. I debated this same issue about the WTC with some folks and you may want to go through it if you are really interested in hard facts: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-66158.0.html

And by the way, here is what Bill Clinton said to someone who interrupted his speech last week claiming that 911 was an inside job: "How dare you"! You may view that here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1193347304&p=1

@topic,

@Tornadoz,
You worry yourself way too much.
Allow these bloody and shameless liars to continue twisting every single statement they come across.
The only way you can make sense is for you to stoop to their level and play dirty.
Some of them boast of having 6 years experience in debating christianity with people, can you imagine?
Those that hate a people based on race or religion are worse off when compared to dogs so do not worry yourself because it has been destined that people like these will walk on the surface of the earth.

There is no better, faster and sure way to lower the quality of a debate on nairaland than to have Afam contribute to it! SELAH.

@Tornadoz,

While the world looks on, Hitler beats the crap out of the Jews,the world feels there needs to be a home for the displaced Jews, a number  of places are suggested including Africa, they finally settle for a place in the middle east and this sets in motion one of the longest conflict the world has ever seen.

Since your premise is wrong, there is no point trying to show that your conclusion is wrong as well. I-man already provided links to show that your knowlegde of the chronology of events is at best erroneous.

To suggest the Jews have always lived in Palestine (because the bible says so) is the very apex of absurdity. Most of the Jews in Israel either come from Europe, America or the old Soviet Union.

I hope you can prove to us that the Bible accounts are wrong. To do that, you will have to show us that Jesus who lived in Palestine was an Arab. And to bring it more to a secular setting, you will need to turn history on its head by proving that Titus, who destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70 was resisted by Arab inhabitants. You will need to prove that the blood that runs through the veins of the Sacarii and the Zealots who resisted Titus is Arab and not Jewish. Tall order isn't it?

Can someone please advice this shameless cabal that even though their voices are 2 octaves higher than the rest of us, truth will always prevail.

Please listen to your advice and take it.

Finally can I remind everyone that anyone who supports  the nairaland cabals pornographic and hypocritical description of the Palestinians is explicitly or tacitly  endorsing the systematic destruction of a people, a thing that should not be lost on us Africans.

Shouildn't you turn the attention of your fellow soldiers to King Abdallah of Jordan who occupies 80% of the known landmass we refer to as Palestine? Oh I forget, turning attention to Jordan does not fuel your anti-isreal stance.

Little wonder then that great Africans like Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu,Willie Madisha and world leaders like The Dai lai lama, the pope (the list is endless) all support the Palestinian right to have their country back from these European Jews.

All these people believe in a two-state solution, which the duly elected representative of the Palestinians, Hamas is sworn against.

Help stop this misinformation on Nairaland.

we've started already by educating you!

Tornadoz,

I could not control my arching urge to set the record straight on what maybe lost to some nairalanders. A cabal
of Nairalanders are hell bent on twisting facts and historical evidence in favour of the systematic annihilation
of a people. Even though most of us have ceded the propaganda high ground to them, it's still very annoying reading about  this obvious distortion of facts.What got my goat today was in the topic "Immigrants- The Iranian-German Experience"

What people are being annihilated and who is bent on annihilating them? Please present the facts for everyone to consider. I'm sure you know that your claiming facts are distorted does not make it so. You just have to provide the proofs. Unless of course you are arrogant enough to expect everyone to take as gospel truth, anything you have to say. I believe better things of you.

A topic about football was hijacked by the usual suspect to yet again sing praises of mighty Israel. His statement that "Israel plays its football in Europe and not the middle east" validates my long standing claim that Jews are Europeans and should have remained there.

Why are you so quick to overlook the facts you claim to champion? Are you telling us that you can guarantee the safety of the lives of any Jewish sportsman who goes to Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Iraq and even Saudi Arabia for the return leg of their match? Have you forgotten the massacre of Isrealis at the '72 Olympics? And by the way, while you consider the material you referenced just "a topic about football", the player who refused to take part don't think so. I mean, why are you deluding yourself?

One would have thought that in an African forum like Nairaland and considering our history, our gumption would be to report facts about the conflict. Most of the people peddling this rubbish are so skewed between religion and right wing politics that they lost all sence of reasoning.

Again, you make accusations you can't back with any facts. How many times have people here quoted the Bible as their sole source? And even if that is the case, I am sure no history book provides the history of Palestine as much as the Bible does. In other words, the Bible not only serves as a book of faith, but as a book of history.

I make no claim to being an authority on Arab/Israeli affairs, nor am I an Arab or Muslim but this is how most people see the conflictTo the uninitiated, this is just a rough guard to this complex conflict.)

If you are not an authority, why are you then so quick to dismiss others who present some facts to you? Why take a stand when you do not have all the facts on good authority. It seems to me that you need to study more. You remind me of someone here who true to nature, copied someone's writing claiming that Palestinians are dehumanized by Isreal while failing to see that no one treats the Palestininas any worse than their Arab neighbours. It is thus plain for all to see that the intention of the original writer and his goon on nairaland is not the welfare of the Palestinians, nor the pursuit of facts, but rather to continue the anti-semitism they are noted for.

@kobojunkie,

I think it was back in 2001 that the first whale "landed" ashore somewhere in Lekki. I remember some of my colleagues and me going to take a look after hearing the reports. And true to some of what people have said here, there were people there cutting and taking pieces of the fish. Now whether they eventually took them home to eat, I do not know. And as someone said too, Area Boys eventually took over and started charging money.

Now this no be "dem say, dem say", I was there and saw it myself. I am sure we took pictures which I will try and look for this weekend. I'll post the pictures next week if I find them. I just hope I brought it along when I left Naija.

@dafidixone,

I hope you have good editors and proofreaders O. 'Cos if you use the same language and commit the same errors of english as you have done in your earlier posts, then that book will only be good enough for the trash! I mean, where is our excellence?

@topic,

Here are some quotes on success by someone I regard as a very fine Christian - peter j. Daniels.

1. Success is understanding that invariably truth is the first casualty in all conflicts, but in the end its incorruptible force will stand supreme.

2. Success is understanding that theorists suggest and pragmatists do.

3. succes is knowing what your inner belief will permit you to do.

4. I said bear pain, not be a pain! understand that pain is weakness escaping. Everyone has the ability to bear pai, but do they have the willingness to endure it for a higher benefit?

5. Success is understanding that lack of education does not prevent you from success - lack of vision does.

@topic,

Always provide a link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7052050.stm.

This is indeed very sad. Our own Tu Face readily comes to mind. Thank God that he was not wasted like this sha.