otipoju:


I am an Awo hall Alomulaya .we argued coherently and we traded insults for fun back in those days. I have nothing against rossike and I hope he understands that.

otipoju:


Mr man just keep quiet if you can't comprehend and stop making a fool of yourself. Greatness is synonymous with exploits. What are okochas exploits that make him rank among the greatest. Give me hard facts.

Is it not the same Pele that believes that neymar is better than messi and predicted that an african country will win the world cup before 2010.lets leave what Pele thinks and give me concrete arguments

You don't even understand the crux of the matter before running your mouth and attacking me making noise like a machine for grinding pepper.Okochas quality is not in doubt and i have not questioned it in any way.he would be a welcome addition to any topside.

What I have been trying to drum into your senile brain is that he shied away from the path to greatness by having other intrrests that were antithetic to the road less travelled.

For crying out loud we are talking about a player who had the skills and precensce of mind to humiliate Oliver khan and about four defenders in the goal area before deciding to score even though he had the chance. Entertaining but not purposeful. It was late in his career that his game evolved and he was phenomenal at Bolton and by that time age had caught up with him.

Stop trying to claim one arcane knowledge on a subject as simple as simple as a club desiring or being offered a good player by an agent and choosing to sign him after some negotiations as regards his value among other things. Oga go and sit down somewhere if you no get point.

sigolisis:

Chai, @chinaimporter, importer & exporter, general merchandise. You should have kept quiet instead of exposing your ignorance further. I thought your first post was a mistake, you were corrected but refused correction. Obviously if an error is spotted in your prescription and you're advised accordingly your response would be it doesn't matter. I don't want to conclude that you're a quack, product of many extra years. You sound like a danger and a misfit in the health sector if you could write all that about other health professionals and I therefore call for a review of your certification for clarity purpose. Pls stop your "chinko'' services for conscience sake

I'm neither a physician nor a johesu member but a concern citizen that is well informed of happenings in the health sector. Pls change your reasoning and stop importing "chinko" comments here

Chinaimporter: [b]The solution to all this conflict is to sensitize nigerians to know the following
1) That nursing is a two year non degree program that contains just element of patient management and almost nothing at all on general studies or other facets of education that other nigerian graduates pass through during their education to gain a full and rounded education and be called university graduates so nursing is effectively a technical training program that evolved into a gorgon medusa in nigeria except for those with BN in nursing.so they are not excpected to act like educated people since most of them are not, hence their thuggish attitude in hospital

2) Pharmacists are a group of well educated people that are trained to work mostly in drug factories(80% work there in other countries) producing it for consumption of the populace with few working in hospital setting and not trying to exceed their limits but in nigeria,a pharmacist that did not see a patient or learn patient management in school want to now become a full fledge doctor and run hospitals.

3) Medical lab science was not even a degree course in this country before now but just a technical certficate gotten in one location in jos after two years of studies but now some are degree holders and now want to wear the same boot as doctors.

4) The pharmacist only job in the hospital is to dispense drugs which anybody even a boko haram member can do effectively with just 3 hours of training hence there unfounded need for undue recognition is even more alarming( ok una go school well well but nobody need una for hospital sorriooo.i de pity una shaaa)

5)That most people in this profession of pharmacy wanted to be doctors but after failing there jamb successively, the opted for pharmacy and developed undue inferiority complex that translated to hate for doctors that is playing out in our health sector

6)That every doctor knows how to do the jobs that this people does but just would not stoop so low as to do so since their have a massive physical and intellectual job they do all the time (it is like the house boy and the oga of the house, if the houseboy is not around,the oga will suffer to iron his cloths and wash his car himself so he will actually work harder but that doesn't make the houseboy the boss at all.

7)[size=18pt]Finally, do any nigerian want to handover their life or that of their children to a hospital being run by nurses or pharmacist?[/size] [/b]

Chinaimporter: [b]The solution to all this conflict is to sensitize nigerians to know the following
1) That nursing is a two year non degree program that contains just element of patient management and almost nothing at all on general studies or other facets of education that other nigerian graduates pass through during their education to gain a full and rounded education and be called university graduates so nursing is effectively a technical training program that evolved into a gorgon medusa in nigeria except for those with BN in nursing.so they are not excpected to act like educated people since most of them are not, hence their thuggish attitude in hospital

2) Pharmacists are a group of well educated people that are trained to work mostly in drug factories(80% work there in other countries) producing it for consumption of the populace with few working in hospital setting and not trying to exceed their limits but in nigeria,a pharmacist that did not see a patient or learn patient management in school want to now become a full fledge doctor and run hospitals.

3) Medical lab science was not even a degree course in this country before now but just a technical certficate gotten in one location in jos after two years of studies but now some are degree holders and now want to wear the same boot as doctors.

4) The pharmacist only job in the hospital is to dispense drugs which anybody even a boko haram member can do effectively with just 3 hours of training hence there unfounded need for undue recognition is even more alarming( ok una go school well well but nobody need una for hospital sorriooo.i de pity una shaaa)

5)That most people in this profession of pharmacy wanted to be doctors but after failing there jamb successively, the opted for pharmacy and developed undue inferiority complex that translated to hate for doctors that is playing out in our health sector

6)That every doctor knows how to do the jobs that this people does but just would not stoop so low as to do so since their have a massive physical and intellectual job they do all the time (it is like the house boy and the oga of the house, if the houseboy is not around,the oga will suffer to iron his cloths and wash his car himself so he will actually work harder but that doesn't make the houseboy the boss at all.

7)[size=18pt]Finally, do any nigerian want to handover their life or that of their children to a hospital being run by nurses or pharmacist?[/size] [/b]

VocalWalls: Uniport should be there.

ghananotnaija: Why are most of these pictures a close-up of a building or an intersection, no panoramas?

Stop trying to hide the fact that the vast majority of the areas in Nigerian cities is very unsightly?

For the most beautiful cities in this part of the world, come to Ghana! We've got a world-class capital in Accra, and smart and liveable cities like Kumasi, Cape Coast, and Tamale.

Remember, unlike Nigeria, Ghana is 100% Ebola-free.

Ghana is one of the few countries that are capable of redeeming Africa's image and reputation to the world.

HopeAtHand:


1) Everyday emporium 2 supermarket in GRA.

2) happybite at Airforce Junction.

3) Westpoint shopping centre, TransAmadi.

Normally, when asked a quetion, 3 answers are enough.

NB: Pls i have nothing against Ibadan peeps/Yorubas, just dat d pix of d mall looked too regular.

prettyprettywow: Na wa o. Imagine Obembe "we have medical and non-medical workers. Medical workers are Drs while non-medical are allied health workers" If the word "medical refers to Drs alone, I wonder why we have "medical"lab scientists, Medical rehab, medical image scientists.

sogodihno: I av to disagree on one point sir: Medical is not restricted to doctors, because if it's restricted to doctors, den d word "medical doctor" will b tautology. Tanks

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv: You are so on point. A few years back, at the
university of ibadan a girl went to preach inside a
mosque and she was beaten to a state of coma by
the worshippers even the so called undergraduates.
If not for the police she could have died.
I don't support her going to the mosque to preach
but just to give you an idea of the kind of violence
that runs in their blood.

hi guys, the major problem in this world now is mis information....I wonder where u heard that u posted..
1. the girl wasnt beaten to a state of comma..
2.the girl came to disturb our prayer session.
3.the girl was kept save by the muslim community and the muslim amir himself.
4.and the school did justice to the issue..
5.the girl continued with her studies and nothing happened to her...

pls lets always confirm where we get information from..

thanks....

first comment ever on nairaLand...

eluquenson: Alhamdullilahi, I will rejoice till end of time for being a Muslim, this epistle is very interesting & touching for those who has the knowledge.

Allah causes whomsoever He wills to stray in error, and sets whomsoever He wills on the straight way.
Al-Qur'an 6 verse 39

Jazakum llahu khairan

pembisco:

..and u ar dulll. No iidiate owns any patient. Any moment a patient is at any health woka's service, dt woka is respnsible fo d patient. If a patient is at lab, he belongs to d scientist, same wit pharmacy nd ward.

Jogbojogbo: We always put blame on government! We have forgotten that, govt. put somebody there to do the needful.
The CMD's in charge of various hospitals should use their IGR to provide some basic instruments & equipment for the use
of the workers instead of using the money for frivolous things, things that are irrelevant to the diagnosis & treatment
Of the patients they are to look after, & that is why some people will capitalise on this to exploit patients. Therefore, the born to rule administrators (the Docs)
who are suppose to know the importance of having these instruments & equipment should use their IGR to buy them. Chikena!
They are incharge as CMDs & they should run it well.

prettyprettywow: but things are already changing, that is why we are having this strike by Drs. They want to maintain the status quo. I don't have to be frustrated because I am not even in Nigeria, So neither the strike nor the policies is directly affecting me. But It pains me when I know we can do better than we are already doing, haven seen how things are being done in sane countries. I just want to see the needed change in my dear country Nigeria. Advocating for what I believe in should't be sin. And yes, we agree that the best man should head our health institutions

phantom: look, jp, some people are dense.it takes a while before they assimilate things.it can be a frustrating experience making them learn new things.
she looks to me like one of those.I will try,take my time and teach her.
evolution filters out many of such people BUT a few still manage through slip through. fact of life!
so I basically see it as a mistake of nature.easier for me to deal with them without getting pissed.

YourHealthlabs:

Guess you've never heard of ear swab investigation and Antibiogram sensitivity testing in otitis media.
Of course you know everything a Scientist knows.


















I applaude you.

GentleMimi: Sai! Patient's perspective indeed.
I weep for this couyntry. I've followed this strike ish for quite some time,even had a debate with some colleagues.
I read an article online abt the requests of the doctors. Nobody is disputing it. They want increase in hazard allowance to N100,000 per month,and some other things too. That is fine by us. But for NMA to boldly come out,stating it will not condone ''blackmail'' by health workers is so annoying. How does the title of ''Consultant'' result to blackmail? Is it something that has never been done before? Is it strange in other countries? Why are the doctors hell bent on being an obstacle to the progress of other health workers?
Now,back to the issue of consultant,let it be known that there are conditions attatched to the title. Medical scientists,pharmacists,nurses,physiotherapists attain educational level of Phd in their profession.
For example,a medical scientist specializes in haematology in masters and Phd level,obtains his fellows and satisfies all requirements by the MLSCN council. Why should such a fellow with vast knowledge in haematology not be allowed to consult with the patient and the patient's doctor on matters relating to haematological matters? It irks when i read some comments here.
In terms of salary,lets have a rethink. For example,as an intern,a scientist earns N120K, a doctor/house officer earns N170K-N180. Now JOHESU requests for an increase,relative to CONMESS scale....N150/160k. Why NMA wan come get HBP on top the matter? All JOHESU is asking for is a relative increase. Peeps who are shouting abt job the rigors of the medical duty should not undermine what other health workers go through. Being on call in haematology laboratory in a teaching hospital is like being on a rollercoaster!
It is the same time too. So what is wrong abt JOHESU requesting for shift duty/call duty allowance and other special allowance.
As an intern,hazard allowance was a mere N10k. What d hell! We handle body fluids too and get exposed to all the vile things running amok.
Those who want privatization of other health sectors are living in a fool's paradise. Who can afford it? Services in the health sector is highly subsidized,but still expensive for certain peeps.
Privatization will only make things worse.
And for the skipping of a thing,why are doctors against skipping when they are doing it? They skip from 10 to 12,we want a skip from 9 to 11. Why dem wan get headache? Lol! *SMH*
finally,on the issue of CMD,i will state here boldly that i have no qualms with doctors being the CMDs. All we ask for is professional courtsey.

blaise26.abj:


Point of Correction. Anyone that assists in saving lives, even the cleaners ,is very important. "Not that important" my foot.

debuscket: @phantom if l have not worked in Lagos, l would be tempted to believe ur lie abt Radiologists having there stamps bt that is not d bone of contention. I remember vividly during my internship in a fed teaching hsptl, some clinicians esp consultants would plead dt our most Senior chief in d dept (chief radiographer) should handle dia case. This is because he as good as knows it all as far as rdphy is concerned. If dis chief is made a consultant radiographer, l see no way it should be a problem to d gynaecologist, obstetrician, surgeon, etc because he consults in his own field nd doesn't interfere in others' fields. Likewise other professionals in other fields. lf d civil service law stipulates dt upon reaching level 15, one is entitled to become a director, how is dt suppose to be a problem to the docs. It's high time we saw ourselves as colleagues nd teammates in healthcare nd stop antagonising each osha. A basic med knowledge is dt d patient is d most important person in d hospital, let's consider dem 1st nd stop dis ego. thing

pfijacobs: I'm a final year physiotherapist in the college of medicine university of lagos.. I stay in a room with 4 mbbs final year students amd I must say.. The bias to the oda sectors even @ an undergraduate level is too much. This goes to show that d level of moral decadence, prejudice and pride in these doctors is too much.. To get total and optimum medical care, u nid all aspects of the health team to contribute immensely and efficiently for d best medical performance. Imagine a stdt here telling us that they shud b given 2 man rooms dat d rest should go and look for somewhere else here.. Its outrageous.from d onset, dey believe dat dey are better and as such, prejudiced to ALWAYS be in top consideration for any form of medical consideration for profit only.. Der are physios who finished skuling before some consultants bought jamb form... There was even a day I was writing my clinical exam and I had my steth on and a.Dr friend was like 'dude go and pull dat steth jor and stop decieving people dat u r a doctor' I was like wtf? D steth is to check oscultations of d heart and not a title landmark for a Drs decoration. Enlightment is d key. They should go out.. See d way things are done outside and emulate d peace, serenity and cohesion dat exists between us as medical practitioners.. Its not our fault dat we are called doctors by d public. And very soon by the grace of God, wen the Doctors of physio,pharmacy bill are passed, and wen now started running d same 6 year parole wit dem, ehen dey will calm down.. But please let's strike for important tins.. Dis is a form of racism we so madly hate. Nobody likes to be trampled upon. So I dnt blame johesu. Make ur demands and don't counter anova person's own I'm not on anybody's side tho. I just feel I shud say dis...heck I even have an exam now sef....LONG LIVE. JOHESU!!! LONG LIVE NMA!!!! More patients, more money, more peace and prosperity... #united nigeria...


Dr.pfijacobs