₦airaland Forum

blancsn1:
Can you not hear me ?
They can not be tried because there's nothing try them on. Isreal itself understand that which is the reason it is not taking them to court.

You are right many of them would be found innocent by Israeli law but the army and police know that these radicalized animals are dangerous hence they can't take them to court or release them into the society. This are war times. The law is not sufficient.
But how about the over 8 million Palestinians that are not in jail.
How about the over 40k people from Gaza who came to Israel everyday to work.
It's easy to see that Israel has nothing against the Palestinians it's just trying to keep it's people safe at all cost. If you live in a war zone, you will understand better.

blancsn1:
Thousand of terrorist or trillions of them
7000 locked up for doing nothing, aside 23K Isreal just murdered, aside those it convicted n still arming it citizen to continue killing same people.

All this criminality does not add up to anything to you as Isreal can't do no wrong n must prevail no matter how you wacked you reasoning is ba ?!

Calm down. Your 7000 terrorists are not innocent.
Let me show you how. If you discover that a group is being radicalized, would you wait for them to commit terror before removing them from society?
This is war. Civil laws are not sufficient to protect in these circumstances.
And I can bet that you have never written about the thousands of Islamic brotherhood members in Egyptian jails so stop the hypocrisy.
Israel must find a way of removing these radicalized animals from society. I agree is a gray part of the law but it keeps people safe

blancsn1:
I hope you brain as not been evaporated by Biafra sunlight ?! What rubbish are you blabbing ?

I stated categorical clear army should go after Herdsmen not Fulani

Isreal as full right to go after Hamas not mass murdering Palestinians

Army should go after Ipob not not Igbo which we all can attest to Nigeria army never went after igbos as no civilian ever died in exchange btw army n ipob. In fact more civilian death as been recorded with army going after Herdsmen so I do not get what point you are insinuating.

Why would you declare war of Fulani ? Is that to prove how foolish you reason or what is the relationship between Fulani n herdsmen ?!

Oga, you said a lot of falsehoods. You claim that you can attest that Nigeria never killed innocent igbos.
Please how do you attest to that. Are you from the area? Have you visited the place?
If you have paid the same attention you are paying to the middle east to your own country, you would learn a lot.
I have personal visited communities brought to the ground by your army.
I have seen your army flog mothers and old women in villages. So when you say that you can attest the innocence of your army, what exactly do you mean
Furthermore, over 2 million civilians died in the Nigerian civil war. Is Nigeria guilty of Igbo genocide?

blancsn1:
You clearly know nothing you talk about. The 7000 Palestinians in Isreal concentration camps are those Isreal have not found any wrong doing against, some for throwing stones mostly children.

So in your delusion you expect Isreal to lock up the entire population of Palestine in concentration camps or I do not even get the point you are making ?!

Those in Isreal jails are completely different from those in concentration camps if you are not knowledgeable about that just say so.

I hope Palestinians are also offered right to guns to protect themselves after all they are the ones their land are stolen.

As I said, the number is to little to show that Israel has a grand design to hurt the Palestine people.
When you are dealing with thousands of terrorists, it's impossible to always treat them with the full protection of the law. No county treats terrorists like the average criminals.
And about giving guns to the Palestinians, why would you arm your enemies. That would be foolish.

blancsn1:
If that is the case why not take them to your own Isreali court not Palestinian court and jail them like you jail many others your court convicted. Then we understand they committed a crime even if you lied against them but keeping those you know committed no crime or can't get convicted even in court set up by Isreal in concentration camps will forever n ever be a no no.

First you have a point. They should be tried and locked up forever. But I guess like every other nation, Israel isn't perfect. In Nigeria we have more than 7000 people in jails without a court date.
But then put yourself in their shoes. With the number of Palestinian terrorists out there, it's nearly impossible to do everything by the books.

allthingsgood:
I am not talking of civil war. Ipob was not in existence during civil war. Clearly you know nothing about history. Most of your arguments are emotional based on roadside gossip.

Let me break it down simpler for you: ipob is a terrorist organization to Nigeria, as hamas is terrorist to Israel. Both ipob and hamas are fight for the same thing: liberation from the central government. So if u support Israel using of bombs and military aggression on civilian population, then why shouldn’t Nigerian govt do the same Do u understand now?

Oga, was the Nigerian civil war an act of genocide by the Nigerian government?
Now you claim I am emotional and acting on road side gossip so let me give you some figures from reputable webpages.

This is from the New York time and not my roadside gossip. https://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/01/opinion/l-lest-we-forget-the-starvation-of-biafra-462487.html

This is from Wikipedia and not my roadside gossip. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

So I ask you again, do you think Nigeria is guilty of genocide against the Igbos.

If yes, have you ever said anything about it? But no, you prefer to talk about a war thousands of miles away. Oga, charity begins at home.

blancsn1:
You are seriously claiming Isreal does not go out to kill Palestinians or you are just joking ?! Same Isreal that licensed gun to Isreali settlers to kill unharmed Palestinians ?

We are not even debating killings by Isreali army tight now. Why do you keep assuming instead of investigating when you are sitting on Google right this minute.. Why must Isreal keep Palestinians in military concentration camps for years when it did not charge them to court yet resume to released them to go to their homes ?

As I type over 7000 Palestinian have been so locked up even before Oct 7

The licensed guns are to protect themselves and why shouldn't they. Don't they have a right to protection?

Israel keeps Palestinians in jail because they are terrorists.
There has been more terror acts committed against Israel than any other nation.
Oga, if you are in Israel's shoes, you will be left with no options.
Again, let's be honest. There are over 8 million Palestinians. If only 7000 are in Israeli jails then you are only being dishonest when you call this a plot against the Palestinians.

allthingsgood:
I think you should read what you wrote carefully and you will see how very silly it sounds. Jews were kicked out then nation of Israel took them in Which nation of Israel

What I don’t understand is how truth can stare you in the face, but you willing choose the bullshit of your slave masters Last I checked Trump was hailed as Israel’s greatest hero in the 21st century. He’s the one that went and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and all of you were clapping for him. How come today now you have changed the story that he is the enemy

Lord have mercy.

Let's claim down. You seem confused so I will give you links so you can read and get some education.
But before then, did you know that for centuries, there used to be thousands of Jews living in Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Jordan etc. They were driven away by the Arabs. So why are you not fighting for these people to get back their lands.
Now here are some webpages to educate you.

https://apnews.com/article/0dcb0179faf41e1870f35838058f4d18

https://apnews.com/article/0dcb0179faf41e1870f35838058f4d18

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-781070

You are welcome.

allthingsgood:
War is between two nations. Genocide is a government targeting people of a specific origin. Palestine is not at war with Israel. Infact there is no state of Palestine last I checked. So how is this a war

This your definition of war is strange and unique to just you. Just because the Nigerian government never accepted Biafra as an independent state does not mean the Nigerian civil war did not happen.
Please look up the definition of war.

blancsn1:
Of course that is why Isreal kept over 7000 Palestine in military concentration camps for doing nothing for years.

you mean 7000 Palestine terrorist. You think terrorist should be allowed to roam freely?

blancsn1:
Maybe you should create a thread on that, I do not see Fulani declaring another country like like ipob n Palestine.

Secondly, you must be delusional to complain about Phyton dance that killed less than 3 civilian or any at all to Isreal that slaughter 23,000 civil with over 7000 being children live on TV.

Ok you are cool with the Fulani killings all across the country right.
So Israel is not attacking Gaza because they declared independence. They are fighting them because the killed and kidnapped Israeli just as your Fulani brothers do. So if you are honest with yourself, we should declare war on the Fulani not the Igbos.

blancsn1:
You ignorance stink to hell, there is no other country. Palestine live inside Isreal and there is no war but a massacre. Isreal is virtually slaughtering it own citizen or the citizen of the state it occupied their land.

Untrue. 20% of Israeli population are Arabs. The population of the Palestinians are growing. Israel does not go out to kill Palestinians and if the Palestinians would stop their stupidity, there will be peace in the land.

Watinani:
Ask Hitler

The Palestinians are in the best position to know Hitler's mind. They supported him against the Jews during WW2.

Mccullum:
Ignoring people like your types will create more political non-entity. How will you be relating ethnicity with religion.

Islam is open for any one to be, Fulani person can't change its identity. Get that clear.

Supporting genocidal actions of Israel is your choice.

It's not genocide to defend yourself.

maasoap:
And Israel is annihilating Palestinian children, women and unarmed civilians instead and rendering them homeless too. Not just that, Israel wouldn't let food, water, medicine, health workers reach them too.

This maps are false and meaningless. The Palestinians never had a country and never had control over that land.
It was a land where different people came and settled. It was never ruled by Palestine.
Then in 1948, it was divided between the Arabs and the Jews. The Arabs said no and declared war.
Now the are complaining about losing their land.
Oga, there are consequences for our actions.
You don't start a war with the aim of driving someone else out of the land and then complain when the person ends up kicking you out.

blancsn1:
No wonder Isreali inside Isreal are protesting to stop the mass murder.

So Israel is a free state where various opinions are allowed. Israelis are not one dimensional.
And they don't suppress their people. If anyone protest in solidarity to Israel in any Arab country that person will end up dead.

allthingsgood:
Are they still firing missiles 100 days after And more importantly, are the Palestinian civilians the ones that fired missiles Smh

Mention any war that did not have civilian casualties?
And more importantly, if you were Israel, how would you go about this war without hurting any civilian.
And yes, after 100 days, the terrorist are still firing missiles that's indication for Israel to keep fighting. The war has only begun. It could take years to end

blancsn1:
The treatment Isreal is giving Palestine is hat Nigeria should be giving Ipob I doubt if Nigeria killed up to 20K lost Jew yet.

Should we also give it to the Fulani? Because the biggest terror group in Nigeria today are the Fulani herds men.
Secondly I am sure you never had an issue with operation python dance when thousands of soldiers at the command of Buhari invaded the South East and killed hundreds of innocent Igbos.
You never spoke out on Nairaland but now you are speaking about something happening in another man's country thousands of miles away.

allthingsgood:
Palestine has been crying for 2 state solution every year at the UN. Stop swallowing the lies Israel spreads. Instead do your research

First, they are not entitled to a two state solution.
In the 1940s and early 50s, 800,000 Jews were kicked out from the Arab nations.
The nation of Israel took them in. Today, no one calls them refugees.
Let the Arab world take in their Palestinian brothers and forever resolve the crisis.
Secondly, the Palestinians have rejected the 2 state solution multiple times.
The last effort to create a 2 state solution was in 2020 by Donald Trump and the Palestinians rejected it.

RepoMan007:
weight reaction against action and see who the beast is here.

You mean rooting out the group that kidnapped and killed your people makes you a beast?

AntiChristian:
Israel is doomed!
Those they killed their family will forever haunt them for the next decades!

Nonsense.
How come the families of the millions of Igbo's who died in the Biafran war are not hunting anyone.
The families of those who died in the Liberian war are not hunting anyone.
The families of the dead Ukrainians are not hunting anyone.
Are you saying that only Palestinians are good at hunting?

oluwwasheun:
You meant to say 100 days of genocide, ethnic-cleansing and terorrism supported by the western countries and the US. Netanyahu is a terorrist worse than OSAMA

If you go about killing and kidnapping people, you will bring out the beast and the terrorist in them.
You started the terror but now you are complaining

maasoap:
Mostly children and women. And total destructions of buildings. Meanwhile, they're still looking for Hamas.
When you have USA at your back, you fvck up the world and go scotfree

More than 8000 Hamas members killed

parkervero:
I see Gaza being annihilated in the next20 years by Israel.

The current kids hold grudge against Israel and would want to avenge which will lead to total crack down on Gaza.

Currently, Israel making a wound that the Palestinians won't forget for the next fifty years.

It doesn't matter. The Palestinians are not the only group that felt hurt or cheated but it's no excuse to be terrorist in 50 years

huptin:
You did not agree with me on what? What did we argue about? You just betrayed your folly again?

I don't need to know you personally but I can guess your type. You do not take time to thoroughly consider issues before jumping to conclusions!

The problem isn't with me but you. You clearly jumped into conclusions. The guy I was discussing with was one proud guy full of himself but you had no words for him.
Clearly you have a problem with my point of view and nothing else. I really have no issue with you because this post is about Israel and Palestine and not spelling mistakes. So if all you came here for is to look out for spelling errors. Oga we don hear you. Now it's time to say goodbye.

Error401:
someone froma village in sapele is saying UN is wrong! Wawu!

So your point is that because you think I come from Sapele the UN is never wrong right?
You don't think Sapele people have the right to disagree with your almighty UN.
Anyway I don't agree with you. You don't need to come from a special part of the world to disagree with the un. Even black men can disagree with UN policies.

huptin:
No I felt very disgusted by your "I know it all" posturing!

Because I don't agree with you right? And the best you could come up with is a spelling error. Be honest with yourself oga your only problem with me is my support for Israel. If you really had an issue with the I know it all posture, you would have taking it up with the other guy who felt because he took a course on Coursera, no one is allowed to oppose him and not me for opposing him.

wirinet:
I am watching Benny Sanders taking the same view as I right now on CNN. He condemns Israels strategy of killing, starving and displacing innocent Palestinians using US weapons. I hope you are aware that Bernie Sanders is jew, a holocaust survivor and his entire family was killed by the Nazis.

Israel is a free country where citizens are allowed to disagree. So if your entire point is that a Jew or an Israeli does not agree with the current Israeli position, I would not buy that. It is a weak position to me.
But if you are saying that you hate all wars because I innocent people are usually in the crossfire, that's a different thing.

wirinet:
Then what use is the Geneva Convention if women and children is fair game in war? Why is there something called war crimes or crimes against humanity?
Article 3 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions prohibits "violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment, and torture" when perpetrated against persons "taking no active part in the hostilities."
Please note, Israel ratified the 1949 Geneva Conventions.

So can you mention any war since 1949 without civilian casualties?
If you cant then it's ok if you just say that you are opposed to all wars.

wirinet:
Since you choose to behave like a broken radio, I pass.

Please pass hypocrite.

cococandy:
You think Palestinians held an election and voted for Hamas? That’s what your brain is telling you?

Actually they did. The year was 2006.

wirinet:
Where did you see me or anyone else for that matter supporting Hamas attacks against Israel? I support no one. I only condemn Hamas attacks on innocent Israeli civilians, the same way I condemn Israeli indiscriminate bombing of innocent Palestinian civilians. Even I do not identify as a Christian, I identify with Jesus's pacifist philosophy of restraint and not the mosaic philosophy of an eye for an eye. Why? Because at the end of the day, it will render us all blind.

You guys just have a misguided sense of loyalty to Israel because of religious sentiments. Many israelis including a former prime minister are against the indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian homes, schools and hospitals.
Palestinians and Israelis are in a perpetual state of war, as a result, military targets on both sides is fair game. But either sides or both sides targeting civilians is inhuman and a crime against humanity. That's why I am impressed with South Africa for taking Israel to the international court to answer for genocide. Other are also free to take Hamas to the same court to answer for their own genocide against Israeli civilians.

So if you condemn the Hamas attacks but still are opposed to Israel fighting back, don't you see that you are only supporting Hamas?
If you are truly against the Hamas attacks then you would be in support to the destruction of Hamas.
And yes, because Israel is a free state with human rights, Israelis are free to show displeasure with their government and opposing views and I love that
But claiming that you are against Hamas but still you are against Israel fighting back it's just funny.