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richmond500:
I mean, God first destroyed the world with water, then sacrificed his only son, now on the last days, we will all have to witness Armageddon, and then some of us will be thrown into hell.

All because of Satan

Satan has a very important purpose in God's plan. He represents the opposition to good. Man must learn to overcome Satan and evil in other to fulfill God's plan.
We only improve and gain perfection as a result of overcoming opposition.

MaxInDHouse:
Where are your churchgoer friends?
You can run but you can't hide Mr Atheist!

See you attacking others later you would be crying that I am attacking you. Hypocrite.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122671460]How many are in Abuja ruling over 200M Nigerians?

Well it's a limited number of Israelites that God foretold will rule with the Christ in Jerusalem {Isaiah 2:3; 9:6-7} while the whole earth will enjoy the benefits of God's Kingdom! Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Proverbs 2:20-22
Wrong
Wether on earth or on heaven only the born again would enter God's Kingdom.
God's kingdom would be established upon the earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
Nobody is condemning you rather you condemn yourself by getting overly sensitive to what others believe.
If all the religious groups are contradicting themselves then why disturb yourself over just one out of over 41,000 different sects claiming Christians?

You call correcting your false beliefs being sensitive. Ok let's say I am sensitive to your false teachings.
I understand you are no longer comfortable with my questioning and you want me to turn my attention to other churches. Loool.
Maybe I would do that at sometime but for now I am still enjoying the game with you

MaxInDHouse:
At least you and billions from different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines will be there after all you're all BORN AGAIN despite being against one another always arguing about doctrines.
Then our GOVERNING BODY will also be with you people in God's Kingdom so all of you will be ruling with Jesus in heaven as BORN AGAIN!

Looool
Your governing body with their own different religions with contradicting teachings also claim to be born again.
You condemn others for having contradictory doctrines as if your own doctrine isn't equally contradicting.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
So the GOVERNING BODY will be in the kingdom but millions across the globe who are OBEDIENT to them won't be there as their subjects, that means it's you and your cohorts that's been against them that will be there as their subjects or what?
Even logically you're making no practical sense!

I am only explaining the consequences of your doctrine. You said you are not born again and Jesus Christ said that you can't partake in the kingdom.
Its funny you call your chapels kingdom hall when most of you don't qualify to be in God's kingdom.

MaxInDHouse:
Atheist thirsty for arguments {Luke 16:24} no reason throwing costly pearls at pigs! Matthew 7:6



Below is your type not ready to learn from an organized group but wanting to teach others that's ATHEISM in disguise!

My brother, if you had the truth, I would have asked you to teach.
Let's go back to topic.
I have a question for you.
Since you are not going to be born again and you can't enter or see God's kingdom, who's kingdom would you end up in?
Your leaders and governing body would be in God's kingdom while you the followers would be lost. Don't you see that you are being used?

MaxInDHouse:
You have revealed what is hidden in your mind but it's a pity i can't help you. You're jealous as many in this forum are learning from Max but Max is directing them to God's organization so because Max is all over the place (forum) you have decided to follow Max all over the forum to counter whatever Max teaches in the name of God's organization.
Henceforth there's no need chatting with you it's needless since you're an atheist as in fugitive with no specific religious group who is envious of God's organized people.
So if you like quote one of my post ten times it only shows how jealous you're yet unwilling to humbly request a free home Bible study from those who has the ability to help you!

Looooool
See fear.
When a false doctrine meets the truth it is forced to run.
Oga dey look for excuse to run.
See person wey we dey try help.
I am teaching you how to learn and ask questions. Learn to be an independent thinker.
Learn to ask questions and demand answers.
Do not just accept what is being fed to you especially if it contradicts the word of God.
I know you so well like the back of my palm. While I commend your zeal in marketing for your faith, you are also a bit crafty.
You have seen that I have blocked all your windows but instead of you to accept the truth, you now look for an excuse to run.

I was able to put forth gospel based answers. I was able to teach you the need to be born again.
I was able to show you from the bible that baptism occured before the days of John.
But what was your reply? Childish logic.
If John was called the Baptist there could not have been another baptism. See stupidity.
Where is that written?
It seems they teach you guys to be dull and dumb.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Acts 10:44-45

44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

More teaching
Example of non-israelites that were born again.
Acts 10:47-48
“Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.

Romans 10:11-13

11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Today, I am in a good mood to teach you. You believe that only the Jews were born of water and the spirit right? Now I would teach you from the Bible that both Jews and Gentiles were born again.

1 Corinthians 12:13

13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves[a] or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.

You are welcome

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Let me give you another piece of irrefutable evidence of baptism before John.
Jesus Christ said except a man is born of water and the spirit, he cannot see the kingdom of God. He again taught that Abraham and all the holy prophets would inherit the kingdom of God. What other evidence do you need to know they were baptized?
Remember, Jesus Christ does not lie so Abraham and the prophets could not enter the kingdom without being Born Again.
I am still waiting for your one piece of evidence from the bible to show baptism began with John. Remember I promised you 2 million naira if you can provide any such evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
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There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John.

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth!

Let me educate you a little bit more. Your bible actually speaks of 3 different baptisms.
Baptism unto Moses,
Baptism unto John
And Baptism unto Christ.

There's no need teaching you because you're an atheist, there's no Christ before Jesus same way there's no baptist before John.
I see you have gotten stuck. So all the people that got baptized after John's death were baptized by his spirit?

There was no Christ after Jesus just as there's no baptist after John. is this taught in the bible or is it the teachings of your governing body?

Baptism before Christ was for obedience to the Mosaic laws but baptism after John was to obey Christ so no baptist after John and no saviour after Jesus. That's indisputable truth! [/quote]
Bro stop acting dumb. In the same sentence you claim no baptism before John and still speak of baptism after John?
What you say can't be a truth. I see you as intelligent but the fact that you believe this unexplainable nonsense shows the power of religion.
You believe baptism ended with John and you still believe that people got baptized after John.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course you're not OK because Paul wasn't baptized into obeying the Mosaic laws which he was fighting for rather he was baptized into Christianity!

I won't teach you!

How does this matter? You are all over the place. So at least you now agree that baptism did not end with John so what is your new argument. If other baptist after John were not called "The Baptist" Then those before him do not need to be called same.
But then for 2 million naira can you use your bible to show that John was the first to perform baptism?
The bible teaches that baptism occured in the days of Moses when JOHN was not yet born.

No baptist after John!
Oga are you ok? Who baptized Paul?

John baptized for the purpose of Mosaic laws regarding the Old Covenant that's why his name was attached to baptism but after him Jesus initiated baptism into the New covenant and he never baptize anyone it's his disciples that were carrying it out that's why none of them could be called "BAPTIST"
So you have answered your own question but you don't know.
Let's go through your answer. The disciples of Jesus Christ baptized people after John but none was called the Baptist so why should you expect those who baptized before him to be called the Baptist.
Do you now see your faulty logic?
And please none of what you say is written in the bible so what is the source of your information?


Regarding what Paul said i won't teach you it's obvious the Israelites weren't baptized in a literal sense!
Let's just say I believe Paul and not JW.

Before Jesus there's no Christ just as there's no baptist before John!

Human logic. Again, after Christ there was no other Christ but after John many other baptist so even that logic does not add up.

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How many knew they were getting baptized?
Who was the baptist?
Very good questions but they should be directed to Paul. But from what we learn baptism took place years before John was born.

Did they got wet like the baptism by John?
After they crossed the red sea, did their children continue getting baptized?
Baptism means to be dipped in water

I won't teach you what that means but John the baptist is the greatest of all those born of women before Christ {Matthew 11:11} it's because of the baptism work which no man has ever done before then! ]
Guesswork at work, the bible never said so. Really why don't you guys ever ask questions in your church. You just swallow the nonsense you are given.
Anyone can guess anything. For example, I could say he was the greatest because he was equally a secret scientist that made great discoveries. When it comes to guess work, any nonsense is accepted.

MaxInDHouse:
Atheist forming believer.
There was no Christ before Jesus and there was no baptist before John!

This is childish logic and it makes little sense. Again you are only depending on very base human logic. But then, let's play along with your logic.
How can you tell that there was no Baptist before John? The Bible never said there was no baptist before John.
Another flaw in your logic is that there was no Christ after Jesus but lots of people performed baptism after John so your logic does not check out.
But then, its all human logic and that is not the way to comprehend eternal truths.
Finally, we learn that the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses so your logic cant be correct.

John is the one and only baptist before Christ in the Bible that's why he is called "John the baptist"
No sir, the bible never suggested that he was the only baptist and it was never said that the title "The Baptist" was because he was the one and only Baptist before Christ. You JW guys made that up. Please can you quote from the bible? I could bet a hundred thousand, the bible never taught that John was the first man to practice baptism.

You need to stop the guesswork, It's actually very simple to guess but it is usually wrong. I can guess about 10 other reasons why John was called the Baptist. So your guesswork is unacceptable sir.

About being prideful, I actually am not. I have given you the opportunity to prove your point from the bible. That is not pride. If you show where it is written that John was the first to baptize immediately I would believe you. So the ball is in your court.

Why not contend the fact that Jesus is the one and only person called Christ in the Bible?
Yes, Jesus is the only Christ in the bible how does that have to do with our topic? Please come back to the topic.


There has never been any baptizer before John and there was none apart from Jesus' disciples baptizing people into Christianity. Your opinion which is wrong. If you have a bible verse that supports this claim lets have it.

John baptized the Jews in preparation for the coming of the Christ so he knows nothing about Christianity but the laws of Moses but the apostles were baptizing people not for the Mosaic laws anymore rather they're baptizing people into Christ. This again is off-topic or what is your point here?

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn arguing blindly out of pride won't lead you nowhere, i purposely take you up on this to expose you as an atheist questioning the faith.
Comedy. You are only exposing your lack of knowledge. I just taught you that the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses. I bet you have never come across that all your life until today. I bet even your governing body doesn't teach you guys stuff like this. And you are welcome.
You have no church to attend unlike real believers that subject themselves to the same line of thought with other believers { that's why you can't point to any church because you're an atheist disguising! Real believers do not rely upon guesswork. Real believers do not follow a man-made religion.

Karen2024:
I am so disappointed in myself.

So I decided to tell a guy who has been my crush that I want us to be friends but he outrightly rejected my proposal.

This guy is just irresistible but he's very immature. I am very much disappointed.

Come off your high horse, people get rejected all the time.
If everyone creates a thread each time we get rejected, the Nairaland server would have blown up.

ebubeson:
Do you subscribe to the use of loyalty prank in testing your partner, if he or she is faithful, or if he or she truly loves you? Again, the fact that someone failed a loyalty prank, does it mean the person is bad?

You may have seen a case where a guy tested his girl with a hook-up trap, and the lady fell for the trap. Does it mean such a lady is truly terrible?

Please give you facts on loyalty prank. If it is okay or not.

Failing a loyalty test does not make the person bad, it only shows disloyalty, and it's a good sign for you to run for your life.
But then I think it could be disrespectful to our partners, especially doing it in front of a camera. I am not sure its the right way to go but honestly I don't know

also the reason why John is called the baptist is because there has never been any baptizer before him nor will there ever be after him.
In fact that's why Jesus could say about John the baptist:
Wrong guesswork. Where is this written in the scripture? You don't need to make things up for argument's sake. In fact, after the death of John, baptism continued so you are clearly wrong. There were many after him. Baptism still goes on today.

Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is[/color]" Matthew 11:11

Are you kidding? This verse says nothing about John being the first and only baptized. it only talks about his greatness. Oga, are you ok?

John baptized the Jews in preparation for the coming of the Christ and he also baptized the Christ himself but he will not partake of the baptism of Holy Spirit whereas those following Jesus will baptize people into Christ and also partake of the baptism of the Holy Spirit!

Now you see, you contradict yourself.

Stop arguing blindly if you don't know something we will teach you the meaning of those sacred writings, i won't ask you a single question if i don't have the answer ready because we know Christ's brothers and we have humbled ourselves to learn from them!

Lol. I would willingly allow you to teach me if you agree not to teach nonsense. You just claimed that "the reason why John is called the baptist is because there has never been any baptizer before him nor will there ever be after him."
is the nonsense you want to teach me?
First, we both know that there was baptism after Jonh's death so you can't be right.
Secondly, I just presented you with a scripture that says the children of Israel were baptized unto Moses.
Clearly, I am the only one doing the teaching here but you are not listening.

Has anything called baptism been mentioned before in the Bible?
That's my point, Just because it was not mentioned does not mean you should assume. You are purely speculating. Also you seem not to know that baptism took place much before John. Now sit back and let's read the bible.
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
Why do you think the first person who initiated baptism was called "John the baptist"?
Can you learn something here? Even before the Baptism of John was the Baptism of Moses.

Guy never was anyone baptized before the time of John the baptist so pick another lie! : You have no record to show for this. You are purely speculating. If you had said that you don't know if baptism took place in the old testament I would understand. But just because it's not yet revealed does not mean it did not happen. Many things happened that are not written.
Stop the guesswork

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122670877]God's word has listed names of faithful people who never had or did anything pertaining to water or spirit baptism and they were faithful all their lives. Jesus even said John the baptist will not be part of a certain group of people {Matthew 11:11-12} so you don't understand what you're quoting, athiests! :
Another guesswork. How do you know they were not baptized? Must you assume? The only Apostle whose baptism is recorded is Paul not even Peter. So don't say what you don't know.

You're a loony atheist guy if there's any group you meant as "WE" you supposed to present them so everyone can observe the practical application of what the Bible says in order to get the benefits but you're an atheist who only feel proud and not ready to submit to the same line of thought with anyone so there's no "WE" anywhere it's just you and you alone!
But you presented a group that continues to fail when measured against the bible. It's funny you are mentioning the bible when you really don't believe in it. The Bible says you can't be part of God's kingdom if you are not born again. You take pride in being a member of a manmade group that teaches and expresses the ideas of a few men while you and the others swallow.

You're lying to your own soul!
If it's just by quoting and arguing Jesus won't say "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} the fruit of faith is not just a dogma like speaking in tongues or worshiping in a certain day rather it's something that should be of great benefits to everyone {Isaiah 1:18} if we all WORK towards it {James 2:18-26} there are many religions with different books and each has their own dogma as written in their books but the Bible stands out for one reason: what it teaches is not just obeying some useless rules without benefits that's why the Author revealed the benefits expected of His true worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
You see what I say? You would define the fruits of your faith according to your terms and beliefs just the same way an Adventist would define them according to his term. Do you even know the meaning of dogma? Not participating in politics is a JW dogma. I advise you to use your dictionary sometimes. It would help you understand the meaning of the words you throw around.

Atheists are people who doesn't want willing submission to any line of thought unless they are forced to comply with WEAPONS.
That is what you are and that's why you're arguing up and down never ready to comply to the teaching of any group of worshipers yet claiming a believer! : Oga it's ok if you want to create your own language and definitions but as long as we are using the English language, you keep making a fool of yourself. History has records of many atheists who refused to submit even at the point of death, One reason I like you is that even when you are saying nonsense, you feel no shame and you are proud to repeat it. I just hope you don't help your kids with their English assignments oh

Who taught you how to find errors in what others say about the Bible?
I am educated bro
There are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
You are right so we prove their doctrines with the word of God.
So all of them are wrong going by the opinion of each group therefore if you can't present a group for everyone to see the FRUIT of their faith {Matthew 7:16-18} how can you truly say what a group teaches is WRONG?
So this is where you contradict yourself. Each of the 40k sects would present a different verse or interpretation of deciding the right group. For example you guys claim non involvement in politics and wars is how to figure the right group. 7 Adventist claim worshiping on Saturday is the right way. The pentecostals claim speaking in tongues.
So the only way we can have a discuss is by proving these doctrines with the bible.
The bible is the only common denominator.

Only atheists jump from place to place condemning the teachings of religious groups without presenting their own group because they're just looking for ways to justify their faithlessness.
It doesn't matter what you feel the definition of an atheist is but that does not change it's true meaning. You are not the dictionary. You are just another man on the street with zero authority.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122667184]LIAR!
It's either you're in or you're out there's no sitting on the fence. If you want to learn then you continue asking questions from everyone but coming to say someone is wrong yet you can't present any group of worshipers who are getting things right it simply makes you an atheist!
My goal was never to present you with a group it is only to point out the errors of your ways.

You always say you're here to catch fun when you are asked questions but when others are chatting based on what they've learned from their churches hopeless, worthless and useless athiests like you will jump in saying they're wrong whereas you have no school of thought to present as the source of your idea.
If everyone is quoting the Bible just as you are doing then there's no need saying anyone is wrong because anybody can quote and interpret what he quoted to his own opinion.

The big difference between you and me is that you choose to interpret according to the guesswork and opinion of your white bosses. Now the bible is written in English so we can easily spot out a liar. For example Jesus Christ said you need to be born again to enter or see the kingdom of God. It is written in black and white. He also said And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

Guy you're a confirmed atheists deceiving yourself! I am ok with you calling me names as long as I keep getting this opportunities to enjoy your ignorance. You should be ashamed if a confirmed atheist is teaching you from your bible.

BRATISLAVA:
The lady doesn't have a reputation. Has nothing to protect. Nobody will hear of her again after this, unless she's an influencer or whatever they are called nowadays.

Her co workers, her husband's family, her church members, friends and neighbors.
They are all watching the video as we speak and hailing here with all kinds of insults

BRATISLAVA:
Only forum incels are breathing hard about it. They breathed harder on fake news of mothers, too.

But the lesson is that we have to be careful about what we post. In a moment of light mindedness, we can destroy our reputation.

She probably was joking but now it's viral, she wouldn't be able to explain herself to the world.

tsdarkside:
ewee....a igbo admit something....

am shocked....

Lool I am only educating you bro.
Using that same stat, you would discover that Nigeria has much more poor people per area than Nigeria republic.