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MaxInDHouse:
Guy i like you so don't let this rise your BP o!

Jesus is the Wonderful Counselor {Isaiah 9:6} foretold that will come and teach in parables {Psalms 78:2 compare to Matthew 13:34} so if you quote him care should be taken otherwise you will misconstrue what he meant.

Children are God's enemies but there are attributes in children we need to emulate.
That's what Jesus meant!

Lol, you are celebrating.
You emulate God's enemies. You are making a fool of yourself. You believe God wants you to emulate his enemies.
Again you dishonesty. If the word children did not literally mean children as you say, then clearly God was not asking you to emulate children.
You contradict yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Those listening to Jesus knew how God killed babies in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek so they fully understood that he wasn't talking about literal children but adults who have made themselves teachable like little children! John 21:5

Ọmọ BIBLE belongs to us no matter how much you're provoked i will continue to prove to you that we have the accurate knowledge of God's word! Isaiah 54:17

Its always the person saying nonsense that keeps boasting.

To show how you are not making sense, you have qouted many verses but none from Matthew 18.
Yes we know there are verses were children could mean something else but saying that everywhere the word children is mentioned in the bible, it has a different meaning then you would look foolish.

For example
Train up a child in the way he should go,
Even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Try using your dishonest interpretation for this let's see how it goes.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're really funny walahi talahi!

If you want to learn just humble yourself there's no gra gra in this matter it's either you humble yourself to learn from us or go ahead and figure things out all by yourself or any spirit can assist you but with us you must humble yourself!

Before God established the law covenant with the children of Jacob (Israel) most people only try to teach their children what they know could benefit them, some taught their children how to pursue riches and selfish goals while others trained children to be conscientious.
So those teaching their children to be honest hearted and sincere are the ones God picked interested in {Romans 2:15} that's why people like Methuselah, Enoch, Noah, Job and many others caught God's attention as His angels sent throughout the earth are reporting back to Him! Ezekiel 10:12 compare to 2Chronicles 16:9
But no matter the things anyone teach his or her child all are like filthy rags when compared to God's laws {Isaiah 64:6} that's why the true God always call Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because that's the lineage with which He established His righteous decrees.

Do you still have further questions?

Oga is this guesswork again. Where is it written that teaching the word of God was not allowed among non Jews?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ we use scriptures to interprets scriptures so if you're arguing over what Jesus meant by "children" i will quote where our born again brother (apostle John) makes use of the same language to prove that Jesus was talking about adults who have humbled themselves to learn like little children! 1John 2:1; 3:18; 5:21

Do you still have further questions?

Let me understand you, are you saying that in Matthew 18, Jesus Christ was not referring to little children? Is this the JW interpretation of Matthew 18?
Is this your point?

MaxInDHouse:
What Jesus meant became clear when he later called his disciples many of who are older than him "children" {John 21:5} so it became part of our spiritual language {Zephaniah 3:9} calling adults who have humbly subjected themselves like little children to learn! 1John 2:1; 3:18; 5:21


Do you still have further questions?

Your bible says he called a little children. And you are qouting John. Oga the incident is in Matthew. Are you confused again.

MaxInDHouse:
NO! There's a purpose why laws were given to the Israelites if you don't know just ask but if you feel you can figure it out on your own go ahead and do so but it's clear that the God of Abraham chose Isaac out of eight sons born to Abraham, He (God) chose Jacob out of the two sons born to Isaac and with the descendants of Jacob He established the covenant promised to Abraham using the laws to seal it.

That's why only Israelites were commanded to pass God's laws unto their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} if they truthfully love the God of their father Abraham! Deuteronomy 6:4-5 compare to Mark 12:29-30

Do you want to know why God emphasized that Israelites should inculcate His laws in the hearts of their children or not?

I need to fully understand you. You are saying that according to JW teaching, Job and Melchizedek were not allowed to teach their kids the word of God?
You are saying that before Deuteronomy 6:6-7 parents were not allowed to teach kids the word of God?
Please show me where you read that.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you that you and i can never agree on the interpretation of what Jesus said so go straight to your question since you're interested in knowing what JWs believe.
Babies are God's enemies and i have given you the reasons why we believe so.
What Stephen Leth said is for JWs globally not for any other religionist so if you're interested just ask for why we hold onto such belief we know what an enemy of our God means and how to treat the enemies of our God!

Let me get you. You are saying that according to JW interpretation in the verses below, Jesus was speaking of a grown man right?

At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Stop trying to pretend. What interpretation are you talking about here.
Even your JW published bible does not defend your lies.
The bible is written in English it's not like some hidden thing you lie about.
Your bible says Jesus Christ brought a child but in other to prove children are evil you decide it is no longer a child but a grown adult and you blame it on interpretation.
Why don't you claim he was talking about elephants?
Dishonest and interpretation mistakes are not the same thing.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the lineage of Melchizedek or Job after their mention?
Because the Bible listed the names of the descendants of Jacob because the true God always claim they are His CHOSEN people!

The bible is a record of the lineage of Jacob not Melchizedek.
But let's say you are Right. The JW argument is because there is no record of Melchizedek lineage, it means Melchizedek was not allowed to teach his children the word of God? How does that even make sense.

MaxInDHouse:
The wages of sin is DEATH! Romans 6:23

Jesus wasn't talking about literal babies here but adults who have humbled themselves as children due to their love for God, when such ones sit down with JWs to study the Bible like children JEHOVAH our God always send His angels to register their name in His memory book! Malachi 3:16

Do you still have more questions?

You are either a liar or you don't read.
That quote is from chapter 18 of Matthew.
Now you have shown you are just a lazy person who would say anything his master's tell him without reading to know for himself.
Now let's see who Jesus Christ was talking about in that verse.
Here are some of the previous verses.
At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Even though we don't agree, I see you as an intelligent person but you are being lazy and ignorant when you would not read a single verse before writing your JW talk points.

Please read the verses or even the chapter it had nothing to do with adults. Please read before commenting and stop embarrassing yourself.

You would be better able to defend your religion if you learn to read the bible and not just JW talking points.

Janosky:
2 Peter 2:6, if you were interested in the holy scriptures, you would always have understand the other related scriptures, Hebrews 11:7

Yes we have read both scriptures but none dispute that children would inherit heaven.

By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
I have even copied and pasted for you.
Is this the verse that makes you not to believe when Jesus says children would inherit heaven?

Janosky:
2 Peter 2:6, do I need to remind you that children in that city were destroyed for a particular reason?
Reason: God adjudged their parents were wicked.
2 Peter 2:6 dey choke some people on this forum.
They are zealously desperate to TWIST the narrative rather than stick to the holy scriptures.

Oga we agree 2 peter 2.6 children died in the city. Now are you happy.
So do you believe the Savior when he tells you that children would inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

Janosky:
2 Peter 2:6 Oga, REMOVE AM from your Bible & have peace..

I just read it, it did not say Children would not inherit God's kingdom. I think you need to read it again

Janosky:
2 Peter 2:6
"if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly"


Making Sodom and Gomorrah an example of What is going to happen to the ungodly- children, women and men.
2 Peter 2:6= Matthew 24:38-39
Oga, are you interested in sticking to the holy scriptures?

Still your Savoir teaches you that children belong to his kingdom. Both verses are not contradictory
Yes Sodom and Gomorrah is an example to us and yes children would inherit his kingdom. How is that difficult.
Don't forget that the same Christ went to preach to them who were disobedient in the days of Noah.
Just because you are a JW does not mean everything is a contradiction.
Do you now understand?

Janosky:
Do I need to remind you that Christ referenced the global deluge of Noah's day @Matthew 24:38-39?
The flood swept them ALL away - evildoers adults, women & children," Jesus Christ told Tctrill...
So it shall be when the son of man comes for fulfilment of 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.
Take it or leave it.

You are lucky, I have more to teach you.
Jesus Christ taught,
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
So the physical death of anyone is not a big deal. So stop being to fixed upon the death of children. Its really no big deal.
That's the word of Christ for you

Janosky:
Do I need to remind you that Christ referenced the global deluge of Noah's day @Matthew 24:38-39?
The flood swept them ALL away - evildoers adults, women & children."
So it shall be when the son of man comes for fulfilment of 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.
Take it or leave it.

so let's make sense of it all.
Christ is not teaching that Children cannot die. He his only telling you that they would inherit his father's kingdom.
Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”
Hope this helps you understand the verses you misunderstood above.

jaephoenix:
This is MaxinDHouse. The king of the Dafts. I already have the god of Dafts in Janosky. Both of them even contradict themselves

The guy is a bundle of entertainment. Anytime I have MaxInDHouse under lock and key, he begins to ask me to tell him my church. He is just hilarious.

Janosky:
Did God approve their parents as Righteous?

Yes.

Your RANTS can NOT REMOVE anything from Psalm 58:3 & Genesis 7:20-23, the standard set by God.

You are confused bro.
I already showed you the words of the Savior but since you forgot, read them again.

In the same way, your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.

Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”

Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

Argue with Christ but this time I hope you now understand the use of simile

MaxInDHouse:
When God's angels come to destroy babies who aren't taught God's word the same way it occurred in the days of Noah {Luke 17:26-27} you can stop the angels from destroying babies!

When a JW baby dies what's the difference. Now let's see the relationship between angels and babies.
See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.

God has his angels watching these precious ones. If this is how to be an enemy then we all should be enemies with God.

MaxInDHouse:
Quote where the God of Israel commanded anyone from other nation to do what is written in the Bible book of Deuteronomy 6:6-7

How is this important? Melchizedek did not need to read Deuteronomy before God made him a priest same with Moses in law. Do you think people were not serving God before Deuteronomy was written? Please ask questions that make sense. Do you think it was Deuteronomy that made Job a perfect man in the eyes of God?
Explain how your question is relevant.
Now back to my question please before you make me forget.

MaxInDHouse:
Adults that makes themselves teachable like children! John 21:5

You are right, adults that make themselves like chicken would enjoy the same reward Christ promised to the little children
Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

MaxInDHouse:
They are God's enemies due to condition in which they are born {Romans 3:23} but are privileged to change their status as their parents are instructed to help them out! Deuteronomy 6:6-7


Do you remember the lineage of Melchizedek or Job's descendants the same way the descendants of Abraham was recorded in the Bible?

That's what He meant by calling Himself the God of Abraham the God of Israel and the God of Jacob!

Ok you mean Job and Melchizedek instructed their kids to be evil? Please what verse of the bible teaches that God's none Israel servants were not allowed to teach their kids the way of the Lord. No guesswork here please.

MaxInDHouse:
I will when there's no reason to answer you any more! Ecclesiastes 3:7

But as long as you're displaying your faithlessness i will continue to push you to the extreme, what remains now is for you to denounce your faith in the book that says babies are sinners (God's enemies) right from their mother's womb {Psalms 51:5} and also commanded God's people to destroy little babies just as their God did in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek!

Which extreme is this man talking about.
Are you talking about the book that teaches that babies would inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

MaxInDHouse:
All humans are God's enemies from the womb {Psalms 51:5} that's why God commanded the Israelites to inculcate His laws in their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} so Israelites babies are also God's enemies until they prove they're loyal to the God of Israel by remaining in the laws of their God if not they will be killed by their own parents as stipulated by their God! Deuteronomy 21:18-21

You can't prove this wrong simply because you hate the truth!

So in short when God made relationships with Jeremiah and co, he was dealing with his evil enemies right.

Now to another question, please show me where it is written that God can only deals with non Israelite Adults eg Job, Melchizedek and many others but when it comes to babies and fetus he only deals with Israelites.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

So why not present the religion you can vouch for or you have none yet claiming you know what the Bible teaches?

Lool. That is not my purpose. I understand you are not comfortable with what I do. But then you are free to stop answering me. So stop complaining and be a man.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course Israelites babies are blessed for being descendants of Abraham: God's friend! James 2:23
That's why God continued to protect them as His people because any child born to that nation has the opportunity to know the truth about the condition of humans that all babies are God's enemies. When Israelites are sent out to destroy any nation they don't pity babies because they know that all babies are God's enemies unless those who are born , bread and raised with the laws of the God of Abraham.
If a child grows among them and decides to turn away from the laws of their God such a child must be killed {Deuteronomy 21:18-21} at that time such a child has become a curse to the land of Israel not a blessing!

Are Israelite babies also God's enemies?

MaxInDHouse:
You know my point you're just misconstruing it to the detriment of your own soul!

All babies are God's enemies that's why He commanded the Israelites to inculcate in the minds of their children His laws so Israelite babies are covered as long as their parents follow God's laws to teach their children so they can become God's friends.
The fetus in the womb of an Israelite woman is already blessed since such a child will be born in a nation having God's laws so even though such a child is born as God's enemies the provision has been made to reconcile such babies as they grow up learning God's laws!

Now you are confused. If all babies are God's enemies, dies that not include Jewish babies but here you claim he blesses them.
Here is God's words to Israel
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

In those days they shall no longer say: “‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.’ But everyone shall die for his own iniquity. Each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted makes me laugh because you are punishing yourself each time you try to prove God's people wrong only to end up getting provoked after you have failed!

So going by what you just typed the one and only group that needs to defend their faith out of over 41,000 religions claiming Christians is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION shey? Luke 12:11-12

Glory be to Jehovah in the heavens.
My friend do you still have more questions because i'm ready to continue tormenting you with indisputable truth that you can only argue blindly there is no other religion that you can present as the one and only group which you can vouch for their doctrine! Matthew 5:11-12

I am happy you finally find a reason to laugh. Every and any one can claim to be God's people but every time I continue to see weakness in your doctrine

MaxInDHouse:
Go and question other religions then see if all their doctrines will go down well with you, but if out of all the religions claiming Christians you can't vouch for any as the one and only group practicing Christianity then you're lying to your own soul!

That's between me and my soul. But as for this platform I would continue to do what I do. Leave me and my soul to God ok

MaxInDHouse:
John the Baptist, Jacob, Samuel, and Jeremiah were never commanded to go and preach to people of other nations.
WHY because they are children of Jacob born, bread and brought up with God's laws which is the laws of their country so God chose them to speak with their own people not outsiders! Hebrews 1:1
It's Jesus and his disciples that were sent to go and convert people of other nations who have nothing to do with the Mosaic laws but having laws of their different nations! Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

Are you confused here. You claim that children are God's enemies then I give you examples of children that had relationship with God from the womb then you claim that salvation is only for the Jews. What exactly is your point?
Are you saying that God is only friends with Jewish babies and enemies with other babies.
Like only Jewish babies go to heaven? Is that your gospel?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you often run to a wrong conclusion out of anxiety!

Do you think God is doing the same to all kinds of people?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa. His program regarding the redemption plan is based on the descendants of Jacob.

That's why He calls Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because his plan is based on that nation and children born among them that's why He insisted they TEACH all their children His laws {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} so they can start building faith in those who may not have it from childhood! 2Timothy 3:15

You are wrong again.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

MaxInDHouse:
You're not questioning but arguing!

There are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations in Christendom with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. Go and question other religions out there if they will respond the way i've been doing since!

Its ok if you don't have the answers but if you conflict the scriptures I would point it out

MaxInDHouse:
My guy, go and relax there's no need arguing blindly over what is clear to you.
If you have any question feel free to ask just as you've been doing and after you've gotten the answer from us just take it as our own belief it can never ever be the same as yours that's why we are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

I feel you are begging me not to question your answers with bible truths.
My answer is sorry but No