₦airaland Forum

Aegerine:
You Christians or whatever you tag your cult gathering are most the most hateful and spiteful things on the face of the Earth, with your stinking and hypocritical claim of love.

You Nigerian version of Paul followers are a disaster and monumental embarrassment to your brethren world wide. Your acclaimed Lord and Savior can never be proud of this your ingrained foolishness e-exhibition.

Oga unless you were born yesterday, you would know that Nigerian Christians are far more peaceful and tolerant than you guys. When last did you here of a Christian riot in Nigeria or Christian terrorist. The difference between the two religious is night and day.The entire Muslim north is like one big prison where you have no rights

tatatar:
"Only christians have the right to complain about contents deemed offensive,others should shut up" – so sayeth the Obidients camp.
A simple summary of this whole davido video brouhaha so far.

Complaint is free but when your DSS starts arresting people over music videos then you know you have a problem.
And as far as we know, no one has ever stopped you from complaining. That's basically all you guys do and it's your right to do so.

hisgrace090:
Hunger is nationwide now.
They should stop this deceitful act of always claiming lack in all area to have all realized in this country.
They nearly crucify shettima for suggesting that Senate president should be given to a Christian which causes uproar in the north.
Even after building the most beutiful schools in boronue by the last governor, UN is still reporting that students seats on the floor in boronue state.
This act smells "British British "

Keep exporting your blames to Britain. That's the only thing you Nigerians are good at, blaming others for their own goals. How does a false report affect the UK's economy?

Olaoluwa112:
Very unserious country blessed with useless citizens and leaders.

Imagine what's topping our importation list. I think the govt should ban the importation of unnecessary things like human hair, creams and the likes.
I know very well that we can survive without those nonsense materials.

Oga, once your government begins to put restrictions on goods from other countries, they would retaliate and also make it very hard to report Nigerian goods.
The only question your government needs to answer is, why is it cheaper to import hair from China than to produce it in Nigeria?

FreeStuffsNG:
https://punchng.com/erosion-destroys-buildings-displaces-occupants-in-anambra/

It's a shame that this fake news is coming from Punch and somehow most can't see how this doesn't add up.
You claim 30 buildings were destroyed and 50,000 people displaced. Are you saying that over 1500 people lived in each of these buildings? Even if each building had 150 rooms, it would mean that more than 10 people slept in each room on average.
You guys should start applying your little intelligence na.

blacksam01:
in the last 2 month in my quest to get a wife... I encountered 7 single moms all working and beautiful...i was alarmed at the rate of the singlemomship..

many of them i deduced followed money of guyz and got stuck. For many also, it was supposed to b a good marriage but the guyz fell out of love.funny enough, all claimed to be properly married before....

so i ask, as this rising status continue in our society who among the male or female are reallyi fueling the Epidemic

You are asking the wrong question. You need to look beyond blaming male or female and look at society at large.
Also, there are many women out there who are not single mothers. I guess you are searching in the wrong places.

verybadmouth:
Unemployment is getting to its peak because people prefer to spend their money on Japa instead of investing and creating jobs. Some are even stacking money in their aza

You are so wrong. In Nigeria, 90% of startups fail within the first 5 years so don't blame anyone who is looking for a better living, business, and working environment. There is something called "The ease of Doing business index." Nigeria remains one of the worst places to start a business.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm telling you both the indisputable truth just carefully read the answers they will give you.
I'm a spirit filled Christian so you can't find any fault with me. Jesus told critits truth bitter than what i told you guys.
You guys are atheists, if you're feeling bad just prove yourselves Christians buy responding to the OP!

Any one and almost every one boasts of having the spirit these days but as the bible says, by their fruits we shall know them.
There is no gentleness in you, no humility and you are quite dishonest. Are these fruits of the spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
The evidence all of you are just deceiving yourselves.

How can you people say it's difficult for you to figure out what you supposed to know?

But you have spent the entire last 2 days and you have not been able to show anything but a prophecy that is yet to come to pass. So clearly it has been very difficult for you

MaxInDHouse:
Disguised athiest claiming believer in Christ.

The question is thrown to all atheists like you forming believer, the OP has told you how JWs provided scriptures proving that we are the one and only group practicing pure worship:



So Papa worshiper of pentecostal, answer him!

This is coming from someone who claims to have the fruits of the spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you've done the needful so let all those claiming believers come and answer your question before you come back to me!

https://www.nairaland.com/7663809/how-know-true-church-god

I just want to hear others ideas.
Already we know you stand

Nobody is reminding atheists like you because you don't have faith it's you that's questioning the truth when it's steering right before your eyes that's why you need to be waken perhaps you're sleeping to see that God's organization is performing!
Oga stop getting angry. The prophecy is for when Christ would Judge the nations. Its stated in the very verse you quoted. So if you guys are not using weapons, it's for your own personal reasons and has nothing to do with bible prophecies.

All of them are performing yet their members are still carrying weapons against their fellow believers in other countries at the order of politicians. Even the host of heaven fought against themselves. Even God in the Bible is called the Mighty Man of Battle. So you have no point.
The Lord has not declared an end to war. So you are on your own.
Again, here are the words of the Saviour
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

The qualities are the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit: [b]"LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL" apostle Paul added saying "against such a group THERE IS NO LAW" Galatians 5:22-23
So if any group of imperfect humans are displaying these qualities among themselves whatever you think about them doesn't count because God has blessed their gathering! [/b]
But neither you non any other JW on this platform has any of these qualities. You guys are some of the crudest, most vulgar, and rude on this platform. Let me quote the very works of Jesus.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only,
So if you claim you love yourselves, even the publicans do the same. In fact, most other church members are more respectful on this platform.

Faithless miscreants claiming believer!
So when God promised that the Messiah will open the eyes of the blind, heal the sick, raise the dead and make food multiply in the future if it never happened when he walked the earth do you think faithful people will accept him?
Yes, this prophesy was for when Jesus would walk the earth. The prophecy in Isaiah that you quoted is for when Christ would judge the earth.

Ọ̀DẸ̀! If that is God's will surely His spirit should work it out among those who will inherit such blessings even though they are imperfect humans. That's what James meant by the works of faith! James 2:18-26
Not that you will only quote but NO WORKS to show for what you're quoting!
No that's not what God meant by works of faith. Works of faith do not mean misinterpreting prophecy.

Mention one religion apart from Jehovah's Witnesses organization that's preaching no weapons and practicing it globally just as the scriptures foretold.
At least you can google these things. You went to school for crying out loud. The JW was not even the first or oldest religion to start the act.
Quakers (Religious Society of Friends): One of the oldest and most well-known pacifist groups, the Quakers believe in non-violence and peaceful conflict resolution. They refuse to participate in wars or military service and advocate for peaceful solutions to global conflicts.

Mennonites: Mennonites are a Christian denomination that believes in pacifism and non-violent resistance. They have a long history of opposing war and military service, and have often been persecuted for their beliefs.

Amish: The Amish are a Christian group that also follows a strict pacifist doctrine. They refuse to participate in wars or serve in the military, and believe in peaceful conflict resolution.

Brethren: The Brethren Church is a Christian denomination that believes in non-violence and pacifism. They reject participation in wars and military service, and advocate for peaceful solutions to global conflicts.

Jehovah's Witnesses: Jehovah's Witnesses believe in non-violence and pacifism, and refuse to participate in wars or serve in the military. They advocate for peaceful solutions to conflicts and believe that all forms of violence are contrary to God's teachings.

Church of the Brethren: The Church of the Brethren is a Christian denomination that promotes peace and non-violence. They oppose wars and military service, and encourage their members to work for peace and justice in their communities.

The Salvation Army: The Salvation Army is a Christian organization that believes in non-violence and peacemaking. They have a long history of providing humanitarian aid during times of war, but do not support the use of violence or participate in wars themselves.

If you're not stupid where is Isaac Newton today? Is it not what people nowadays are doing with the law of gravity that's evidence of Newton's discovery?
Oga, that's not how science works. The evidence of Newton's works is in his equations. Once he was able to prove gravity with balanced equations, the science community took him seriously even before technology and engineering began to make use of science.

FOOL! Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the only living proof that the prince of peace walked this planet! No, the bible and the records kept by his apostle are the proof. Even before the JW came on board, people believed in Jesus Christ so you are not proof. People don't need JW to believe that the prince of peace walked this planet

Jehovah's Witnesses are reminding you of the prophecies pointing to what you need to know about them. There was nothing called "Jesus Christ" in the Old Testament just as there's nowhere Jehovah's Witnesses is written in the Bible but exactly the same way Jesus is fulfilling many prophecies Jehovah's Witnesses are also fulfilling many prophecies!
We don't need you to remind us of a prophecy that God would fulfill in his time. God said these things would happen when he is judging all nations. No one sent you to fulfill God's prophecy. He already told us whenthese things would happen




Gbam!
Exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing among themselves throughout the world today that's what Jesus meant by saying:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life" Mark 10:29-30.
Every church is preaching the good news. The Catholics have hundreds of millions of members so they are clearly better at preaching than you. Even new churches like Winners have more members so they are all better than you at preaching the good news.

How stupid you are that you can't present such a family of faith where they're taking care of themselves no matter the tribe or nation any of them may come from.
You make no point. Every church does this. In fact most churches I know have a welfare system. Its nothing special

So of recent, I have been having an argument with some of the most popular Jehovah witness members on Nairaland.
They have their own standard for determining the true church.
To you, what standards should one look for in finding the true church.
Please refer to the scriptures in answering this question.
I know this is a tough one and many Christians have never asked if the church they attend is true or not.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122702451]Jesus' teaching also sound false {John 10:20} even stupid in the ears of most Jews {John 6:60} so you can't discern false teachings based on your understanding of the Bible because all those Jews condemning Jesus' teachings also based their judgment on their understanding of the scriptures.

Wrong
Jesus answered the Jews by proving his teachings were in line with the scriptures. He always reminded them of the prophecy in the scriptures.
Listen to his words
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.


So what helped honest hearted and sincere Jews to know that Jesus' teachings is authentic?

That's what Jesus meant when he said "by their FRUITS" {Matthew 7:16-18} because in each generation FAITH is expected to yield a specific FRUIT only a true religion can produce it!
Who decides the fruits. Is it not from reading the scriptures that we know the fruits of true believers?
You cannot run away from using the scriptures as the standard.
And we get some of the fruits in James

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
James has already explained the fruits.

Dude, GRAVITY is not seen by anybody people only speculate through the reaction of things on planet earth as everything is magnetically drawn to it's surface.
In like manner if you're arguing about God who can't be seen the only evidence is the people controlled by God that any reasonable person can present as evidence.

You are not making any sense here. The question is if we would judge through the human beings, what qualities do we use?
Who decides on the standard?

God is the supreme being who has the power to gravitate imperfect humans making them do things in a perfect sense according to his will. God promised that His worshipers will stop the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons {Isaiah 2:2-4} this sounds impossible because imperfect humans can't settle disparities that easily without fighting when they're from different nations but God said His spirit will make it possible! Zechariah 4:6 compare to Matthew 19:26

God never promised that his worshippers would stop the usage of weapons. The prophecy in Isaiah 2:2-4 is not about his followers but about a time of peace that we are still looking forward to. The prophecy is yet to be fulfilled.
Let's read the bible
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
So God was speaking of a future time when he would be judge among the nations. The time is yet to come. For now, God is not judge among the nations

Also God also spoke of false teachers. So even if you don't carry weapons but you are a false teacher you are wrong.
Again, there are a number of organizations who do not use weapons so the use of weapons or lack of can't be God's standard to set apart his people.


So my guy your gravity wasn't agreed upon by mathematics rather people can see it's effect on objects even though they can't see gravity!
Oga I don't know what you studied in school. But please don't make a fool of yourself here.
The laws of gravity is the work of Sir Isaac Newton.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep deceiving yourself!

God's word has stated the FRUIT of FAITH so any group producing it is God's organization whether you like it or not! Matthew 7:16-18

The fruit of faith is not false teachings

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!

You've revealed how confused you are!

If the law of gravity wasn't written in our time and people are making use of it in our time if you're quoting what was written saying they don't understand it but can't present those making use of it in what way are you normal?

Please read what you wrote, it doesn't really make sense. In science, we do not present people as evidence. Rather we use mathematics to prove our laws.So clearly you don't know what you are talking about.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're telling stories because what you're quoting never happened in our time rather it's written to help people in our time apply it in our own time. So if you can't present the practical application that's working in our own time then you can't prove you believe what you're quoting because it's not for quoting sake but for practical use and benefits!

Also the law of gravity was not written in our time yet you can pretend it doesn't exist. The truth in the scriptures is timeless

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what Jesus said!

That's why you need to present the FRUIT of FAITH that Jesus said will serve as evidence {Matthew 7:16-18} that a group truly knows the truth not just arguments! Titus 3:9

If your teachings are false then your fruits are false.

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't know true teachings yet calling the teaching that's yielding positive results in the gathering of imperfect humans false ọmọ you be confirmed atheist!

Actually false teachings can never yield a positive result.

MaxInDHouse:
I have a note with me which is tenable anywhere i go and with it i can transact business everywhere but you want to tell me that it's fake money, oya present the real money you started telling me stories found in Nigerian newspapers about Naira notes.
How do you think any right thinking person can take you serious?

Ọmọ from my own perspective you're lying to your soul because you're just quoting the Bible out of context that's why you can't present or point to any organized people where what you're saying is practically applicable!

So when someone is arrested for spending fake money, he would not be released simply because original money was not provided.
In your case I have provided original money which is the word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has a church and they're all united in faith! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10
Paul said they should be assembling together! Hebrews 10:24-25

So if you don't have any church where you assemble together with fellow believers but always questioning the faith of others ọmọ you're a disguised athiest!

You are right Jesus Christ had a church not an organization of falsehood.
Having a church is nothing special as you say, there are over 41 thousand sects. But teaching the truth is the critical thing. So don't get angry if I choose to point out your falsehood.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and worship your god if truly you believe in one!

At least there are over 41,000 different sects all claiming denominations so if truly you believe in God you should be able to present one where you worship!

Are you trying to beg me to stop questioning your false teachings?

sync:
So I and my friends went to visit a friend that just put to bed her 5th child.

This child was unplanned for as they had already stopped having children.

She narrated to us how her husband was furious when she told him she was pregnant. He blamed her for not taking the necessary precautions.

This brought a debate between us, who actually is responsible for an unplanned pregnancy.

Is it majorly on the woman who knows her cycle and carries the pregnancy but was still careless or on both the man and wife for not working closely together to ensure what needed to be done is done

The answer to your question totally depends on their chosen method of family planning.

MaxInDHouse:
I just pity you as you have to go through all the pain quoting me but trying to pretend you have something tangible to say when in fact you're just an atheist!

I love the way you JW define me. To you, I am an atheist but to you elder brother Janosky I am a Trinitarians.
So to the JW church, I am a man who doesn't believe in the existence of God and still believes in 3 God's.
You guys seem to be having headache in demystifying me a mere human.
I only imagine the both of you arguing over my person in your private meetings.

MaxInDHouse:
I don't hate atheists but when an atheist wants to condemn faith in God and the Bible then disguising as a believer that's what irritates me. You have the right to choose whatever you want nobody can flog you for there is freedom of speech, expression, worship and association.
So stop deceiving yourself!

But you are the one who doesn't believe in the word of God in the bible.
Have I ever presented anything to you outside the bible you have?
So stop getting uncomfortable and get your facts right.
My only weapon against your lies has been the bible nothing more.

MaxInDHouse:
I just pity you as you have to go through all the pain quoting me but trying to pretend you have something tangible to say when in fact you're just an atheist!

We both know you don't pity me, you are terrified of me .

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀!
This is what your brethren in athiesm typed about God's organization instead of saying his own opinion about God:



So if he doesn't believe in Jesus and Bible like you then why capitalizing one just one religion instead of going straight to tell people what he thought about God?



Do you now see that i didn't just quote him unlike you who just keep following me all over the forum?

Funny guy. Oga no bi fight. Take it easy.

MaxInDHouse:
So stick to the one you can vouch for if truly you know what the Bible teach because one out of all these sects belongs to Jesus!

Am I making you uncomfortable

MaxInDHouse:
Atheists with no religion wants to kill himself over God's organization!

Lol Everyone claims to be God's organization.