₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
This isnt about babies who barely know their noses from their eyes. Recall that I said a well-programmed and tested robot, at least a child able to tell its face from its butt, and with an understanding of the difference between pain and pleasure at least.

This isn't about robots. At least babies are human. If a robot does not meet standards, it's the maker's fault. Yes, a child is able to learn from experiences. That is what Adam did not have. He was even worst that a child.

Kobojunkie:
How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

actually robots need much more inputted info than humans. In machine learning, you could use thousands of input experiences to make your robot make a very simple decision.

Kobojunkie:
OK.

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot(or even a child for that matter), with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

That's why we don't blame our little kids for their choices, they don't know between good and evil. If I leave a bowl of rice on the table and go into the room, I wouldn't be surprised to see my baby's hands in the bowl.

Kobojunkie:
OK.

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot, with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

If a robot has the ability to choose between 2 choices It would need an in-depth understanding of both. The programmer would need to input that into it.

Kobojunkie:
Does a robot need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it is able to carry out a basic command given it?

A robot is not given the ability to choose.

Kobojunkie:
* Adam's choice was to go it alone without God. A Just God gave to Adam, and His descendants, exactly what he, Adam, requested of Him.

1. According to scripture, sin is not inherited, not even like sickle cell.

2. Your dad doesn't inherit Adam's sin nor his own grandpa's sins. Sin was inherited only in the land of Israel beginning in the time of Moses, but God discontinued that curse in Ezekiel 18 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 where God declared that no longer will the sins of the cather be passed down up to 5 generations, but instead the one who sinned will die. So those who cling to the idea of generational curses do so in ignorance and against God who started it and put an end to it even before Jesus Christ showed up in Israel.

3. So, clearly, Allah isn't the God of the Bible, that much is at least established.

We should reconsider our thoughts on Adam and Eve. Remember, they did not know good or evil before eating the fruit and if they did not eat, there would not have been a need for Jesus Christ.

Gben5:
when I opened the
preface, it said: ‘This book was translated out of the original
tongues and it’s from a translation diligently compared and
revised by Her Majesty's Special Command King James,
appointed to be read in the church’. So, I see that book is not
for me. It’s for people who go to church. It’s a con”, in Genesis 1: ‘In the beginning, God created the heaven
and the earth and the earth was without form and void’, that
means there was nothing; ‘and darkness upon the face of the
deep and God said: ‘Let there be light and there was light and
there was light’”.
“Now, tell me something; where was that person who heard
God say: ‘Let there be light and there was light’? That means
he was there before God. That story is fictitious, not true”

I understand you don't believe but that does not make it false.

Goke7:
Na when person dey give una back in your way na go sout tribalism

I hate tribalism. Only weak men practice it. I advise you to stop and grow up.

Goke7:
We don't care about you guys whether you are in Nigeria or not can't you see. If we say mind your own business na crime? Why force yourself on others?

As I said, there is nothing I can do to help you. We would keep talking as much as we want. You are free to talk about us if you want.

ublight:
So guys, yesterday I took my babe out to just sit out and have a swell time together in one of those lounges in uyo. I was with 3k physical cash, and my gtb debit card had over 60k. All was just for flexing.

My new Samsung galaxy barely 2 months old was in my pocket and guys I value this fone more than any other property of mine at the moment. The fone is my cash cow. The fone usually makes between 30 to 40k for me weekly.

So straight to the matter, babe said she wanted to get pizza first so we headed to domino's. Just few meters away from domino's is uniuyo town campus, and the gate also doubles as a park. And as u know, where there is a park, there are touts.


Omo four guys started shouting and pointing at me. 'na him be that. Na him be that. Catch am'.

I didn't know what to do so I kept going. I told babe to walk ahead of me like she didn't know me. I didn't know what to expect and I didn't want to involve her cos I was sure those guys were coming towards my direction. As least I am a guy I can always find an escape route.


These touts/cultists came towards me and claimed that I slept with their capons babe. That they will deal with me. I told them they were mistaken cos I don't fornicate ��.


Mehn dey began to cap. Telling me dey are vikings (like I even care. Who viqueens epp). I was scared, more than scared as dey started requesting for my fone and checking me for cash.


I swore they would not even touch my fone. What nonsense! Taking that fone would be equivalent to dragging me backwards for two years.

I jumped into one mini bus nearby and told d driver to zoom off that I will pay him. The driver being a b*tch ass nigga told me he didn't want any problems with those guys that I should leave his vehicle. Mehn my breathing heightened - an evidence that I was nervous to the peak.



I stepped out of the mini bus, and by this time it was already becoming a scene. Folks thought I was guilty of something nobody wanted to help. Their voices drowned mine their hands were all over me.

I just thought within my self that I wasn't gonna be used for suya by irresponsible and degenerates whose lives and future had been harzaded and wrecked. Heck these guys were gone past redemption. I doubt their mothers would weep over their dead bodies. I'm pretty sure their mothers had laid curses on them, regretted not aborting them. Their fathers drunk and useless, old beggars. Probably dead.


Babe was watching from a distance. She felt helpless. She would have come closer to help but I knew that was useless. I kept maintaining eye contact with her warning her not to come any closer. I could see the tears we'll up in her eyes. I felt broken, but I could not let it end that way.

I remembered the story of those uniport guys that were burnt many years ago cos of false alarm. I told myself that wasn't my lot.

Something just kept delaying these God forsaken souls from carrying out their heinous act immediately. Seems like they were waiting for more of their crew. The just kept holding on to me but took nothing.

Trust gen z's to pull out their fones to capture the moment. Foolish children. Instead of trying to find out the reason for the commotion, they felt at ease to capture and encourage the commotion.

One Rick shaw rider just slowed down to see what was going on. I saw an opportunity present itself and I was grateful. I forced my self closer to the keke. The man was uncomfortable with me approaching so he tried to move away. As he doubled his acceleration, I quadrupled mine.

Confused, he decided he was not going to watch anymore before he got involved in something bigger than he had bargained.

As he tried to zoom off, I threw my self into the air. Those boys didn't see that coming. Their grip had loosened. I jumped and clinged on the keke. The rider got more frightened and increased his speed. When we had gone a safe distance, he asked me what happened and I told him. He asked me to check if anything was missing. Gladly only a hundred naira was missing.


This was around 4pm. I told babe to go home that I was gonna see her later. Went to my hood and shared the story with one street og.

Without mentioning the frat to him, nigga told me it had to b vikings. Told me what to do if such happens again. He also tried to get me join his frat to avoid future intimidation. I politely declined, gave him 2k and left.

Got home, called babe to ask her how far. She started laughing and calling me a coward. She meant it as a joke, but it was demasculating and demeaning.

I think I am done with her.
What do you guys think? Am I over reacting?

I guess she did not understand. Lets hope she is not the babe they were talking about

princehinnex:
I am seriously saddened with how everyone is trying to drag a nuetral personality such as Pastor Adeboye into a dirty mess such as Tinubu......Baba has openly declared that he has no participation in politics and have never voted.......He is a father to Nigeria not just christians so let's calm down in trying to bring an anchor to your sinking ship Tinubu

What do you mean by he is a father to Nigerians and not just Christians? That statement does not have much meaning. Is he one of our founding fathers? Did he play any important role in Nigerian politics or policy? How is he our father?

Goke7:
You guys don't have anywhere to go to, that's why your igbo nation remains a pipe dream. What's in the SE that we are benefitting from. You remain a liability to the rest of Nigeria

If you think we are a liability please cut us out of Nigeria but until then, I would talk about any state and politician I want even if it makes you sad.

Goke7:
You have a right of speech but not a right to meddle in the internal politics of yorubaland. You guys are just busy bodies and that's what keep generating mistrust from others even the SS always keep you guys away from their internal politics but you keep taking the liberality of the SW to be busy bodies.

I no blame una actually. Its we the SW because of our quest to always be politically correct, we keep allowing you guys to poke your finger in our eyes.

Tinubu himself caused this problem when he started giving appointments to you guys so he himself is paying for it now. Not your fault at all. The day we start having self preserving yoruba politicians all this madness will end

There you go again with your tribalism. Lets just say I disagree with you

ElSudani:
Look, I have no intention to restrict your freedom to do anything. Just try to be honest in everything you do. By the way, there's no way you can know my state more than I do.

If you are from Oyo, Ogun Lagos, or Ondo, I can bet that I know your state more than you. I have done business even in the most remote parts of those states. I started my business life in those states.

Softmirror:
WHEN DID THE IDEA OF A MERGER WHICH FINALLY BECAME APC STARTED? THAT WILL TELL YOU THE REASON WHY IT HAD SUCH A VERY GREAT MOMENTUM IN 2015, ENOUGH TO PUSH PDP DOWN AND DEFEATED.

That's the point, things happen in politics. If LP wins the presidential, it would not be the first time a new party without structure is winning. The republican party in America did it in 1860 under Abraham Lincoln. We hope for such in Nigeria.

ElSudani:
Of course.

And note, it's ok to not being a tribalist

ElSudani:
Of course.

Because the Igbo man is the most traveled across Nigeria, he is in a better position to tell you which states are doing well.
I have been to every single state in the South West. I have done business in 3. I probably know your state more than you do so don't restrict my freedom of speech.

ElSudani:
Abinitio you have a very low bar for your leaders and when you get a mediocre one like Obi you start to complain.
Perhaps the problem is people like you rather than the folks you elect.

You are free to believe whatever you want, it does not make it true

Goke7:
You don't believe in one Nigeria so stop the lies and go back your biafra agitation

Funny you. What I believe is not your business.
And you are a big hypocrite. You don't want an Igbo nation yet you don't want them to be part of Nigeria. What do you really want.

Goke7:
So your igbo politicians are not corrupt abi, you leave yours and condemned those who are not even in charge of your states. All we are saying is mind your business. We don't give a damn about how you guys feel about our politicians as they are not your business. Whether they are popular in your states we don't care. Leave us alone to handle our politicians

First Igbos do not support corrupt politicians no matter where they come from.
Secondly have you ever had of freedom of speech? Please don't complain. The Igbos have a right to speech even if it makes you uncomfortable.
Lastly, as long as Nigeria remains a country, what happened in Osun affects everyone of us.
We all should be concerned. We would continue to exercise our freedom of speech even if it makes you sad and we are not sorry about it.

blamingthedevil:
https://twitter.com/DeeOneAyekooto/status/1548932891383562240




Statistics

OSUN STATE INTERNALLY GENERATED REVENUE

2014 — ₦8.51 billion
2015 — ₦8.07 billion
2016 — ₦8.88 billion
2017 — ₦6.49 billion

2018 — ₦10.4 billion
2019 — ₦17.9 billion
2020 — ₦19.7 billion


OSUN STATE DEBT PROFILE — DOMESTIC DEBT

2011 — ₦5.43bn
2012 — ₦38.6bn
2013 — ₦41.4bn
2014 — ₦37.8bn
2015 — ₦144.7bn
2016 — ₦147.1bn
2017 — ₦138.2bn

2018 — ₦148.1bn
2019 — ₦138.7bn
2020 — ₦134.1bn
2021 — ₦134.7bn
Q1 2022 — ₦133.6bn

OSUN STATE DEBT PROFILE — EXTERNAL DEBT

2010 — $62m
2011 — $61.5m
¹2012 — $61.7m
2013 — $61.8m
2014 — $74.1m
2015 — $76.9m
2016 — $70.5m
2017 — $96.6m

2018 — $99.1m
2019 — $95.5m
2020 — $107.4m
2021 — $100m

LEAST UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE [2020]

1 Osun
2 Benue
3 Zamfara
4 Sokoto
5 Ogun

LEAST POOR PEOPLE [2019]
1 Lagos
2 Delta
3 Osun
4 Ogun
5 Oyo

#StatiSense
(NBS)


https://twitter.com/StatiSense/status/1549105244130402305

The voters did not want him and that tells me he wasn't as good as your stats claim.

ElSudani:
He must, he should. That is what a leader is supposed to do. If it has happened sambisa even if he can't go there in person he should issue a statement.
It is not a favor, that is one of the duties of a leader. It is not enough to reel out useless statistics that doesn't mean anything to anyone.

That's your opinion.
Meanwhile, there has been endless killings in the east from unknown gunmen. I don't expect that anytime people in the east are killed all political leaders must comment.
Just today. 15 people in Enugu where kidnapped by suspected herdsmen. I am not by the tv waiting for every politician to comment.

Goke7:
Do yorubas meddle in the politics of SE States? Why can't you guys mind your own business

Nigeria fought and defeated the Igbos to keep the country one. Now you feel the Igbos should not comment when it comes to Osun politics. What really do you want? Do you want one Nigeria which your father's fought for or a divided country

Goke7:
Indeed by attacking every strong yoruba politician all the time abi? You think we are fools here. Make una continue, we dey enjoy am

Igbos have never attacked a Yoruba politician. If you mean condemning a corrupt politicians, what is wrong with that.
Don't forget, Obasanjo was more popular in the east than in Ogun state. MKO was supper popular in the east also. Mention one Igbo politicians that was popular in the west?

ElSudani:
Is Peter Obi also a tribalist? A man vying to be the president of a country who completely ignored such an event, even when he call himself a Christian? Is this what you expect from a leader?
Use your head.

What are you talking about? Please stop finding fault. Must he make a public comment? You guys should please stop this

Goke7:
Go and sit down. We see through your agenda all the time and that's why you guys will never dominate or rule over us. You guys should thank God that you are in a tolerant country like Nigeria. Countries like South Africa, Rwanda, Kenya even Ghana won't take this shit from you guys. Reason una still get problem for those places

I am not from Rwanda, Kenya or Ghana. I am from Nigeria. And I am sure you have not been to any of the counties you mentioned.
To can't be helped you are stuck in tribalism

ElSudani:
If this is true why were Ibos celebrating when Ondo was attacked by terrorists? Why didn't Obi go there or even issue a simple statement in solidarity with the people of Ondo state.
We are not fools my friend.

What are you talking about? Most Igbos where heart broken. Only the tribalistic ones rejoice.
The problem is when you are a tribalist, you only hear the voices and listen to the comments of fellow tribalist.
You never read the comments of millions of Igbos who were heart broken by the even. Your only interest was in the comments of a few tribalist.
You guys really need to change.

ElSudani:
They are Nigerians of course but common sense suggests they should pay more attention to their own states and issues affecting them directly.
What is their obsession with Yoruba?
Endsars, Ibos will inject themselves into the middle of it.
Election in Osun they are there.
Shootings in Owo, Ibos are there.
What time do you devote to your own issues?

To every Nigerian, every state matters. Please stop the tribalism. Let's see each other as one.
Osun belongs to all of us.

AntiChristian:
So why are you afraid? Vote your Christian candidate shebi your pastors don give you who una go vote for?

Abi "no PVC no church attendance" no reach your side?

Anyways, many governors run Christian-Christian and yet no P.

Every Christian should be scared of a Muslim Muslim presidency and should cry out against it's possibility.