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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 5:16pm On Jul 22, 2022
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was
brought unto him
one possessed
with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people
were amazed,
and said,

"Is not this
The Son of David?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan
cast out Satan,
he is divided
against himself;
how shall then
his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
therefore they shall be
your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by the Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into
a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his Goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will
spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say
unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever
speaketh a word
against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye,
being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “


37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a Sign from thee."

39. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'


and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE WORD OF GOD COMES FROM DEVIL POSSESSION- WHEN YOU HAVE COME TO THE UNDERSTANDING, ACCEPTANCE, BELIEF IN, OR OBEDIENCE OF ANY TRUTH, YOU HAVE DEFEATED EVERY DEVIL THAT WAS ACTIVELY TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM GETTING TO THAT TRUTH.

If you learn a Truth from Satan being negligent to stop you, you must act on that Truth before he can get back to you, and take It from you.

[color=silver].[/color] REVELATION 22:11-12.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still.
12. "And, behold,
I come quickly;
and my Reward is with me,
to give every man According
as his Work shall be."

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 13:1-23.

THE same day went Jesus
out of the house,
and sat by the sea side.
2. And great multitudes
were gathered together
unto him,
so that he went into a ship,
and sat;
and the whole multitude
stood on the shore.
3. And he Spake many things
unto them in Parables,
Saying,

"Behold, a sower
went forth to sow;
4. "And when he sowed,
some seeds
fell by the way side,
and the fowls came
and devoured them up:
5. "Some fell
upon stony places,
where they had
not much earth:
and forthwith they sprung up,
because they had
no deepness of earth:
6. "And when
the Sun was up,
they were scorched;
and because they had
no root,
they withered away.
7. "And some fell
among thorns;
and the thorns sprung up,
and choked them:
8. "But other fell
into good ground,
and brought forth fruit,
some an hundredfold,
some sixtyfold,
some thirtyfold.
9. "Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

10. And the Disciples came,
and said unto him,

"Why Speakest thou
unto them in Parables?"

11. He Answered and Said
unto them,

"Because it is given unto you
to know The Mysteries
of The Kingdom of Heaven,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath,
to him shall be given,
and he shall have
more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
13. "Therefore Speak I
to them in Parables:

'BECAUSE THEY SEEING
SEE NOT;
AND HEARING
THEY HEAR NOT,
NEITHER DO THEY
UNDERSTAND.'


14. "And in them is fulfilled
the Prophecy of Esaias,
which saith,

'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART
IS WAXED GROSS,
AND THEIR EARS
ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES
THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND
WITH THEIR HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'


16. "But Blessed
are your eyes,
for they see:
and your ears,
for they hear.
17. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS
AND RIGHTEOUS MEN
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.'


18. "Hear ye therefore
The Parable of the Sower.

19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH
THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT,
THEN COMETH
THE WICKED ONE,
AND CATCHETH AWAY
THAT WHICH WAS
SOWN IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH
RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.
20. 'BUT HE THAT
RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY
RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'YET HATH HE NOT
ROOT IN HIMSELF,
BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE:
FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION
ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD,
BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED.
22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED
SEED AMONG THE THORNS
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD;
AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD,
AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES,
CHOKE THE WORD,
AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL.
23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED
INTO THE GOOD GROUND
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT;
WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT,
AND BRINGETH FORTH,
SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD,
SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY.' "


If you do not understand these Truths, you will lose your Soul, and you will die.

These are not trivial points.





FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I LEARN WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS FROM THE BIBLE, NOT FROM WEBSITES.

That is why I read ISAIAH 14 From The Beginning, and learned that ISAIAH was talking about NEBUCHADNEZZAR, THE KING OF BABYLON, the whole time.

Oyinbo Atheist and Christian Hypocrite fools and their Colonial lackeys have these stupid theories based on taking verses out-of-context, whereas the contexts prove their twistings to be the silliest ideas.

[color=silver].[/color] ISAIAH 14:1-5.

FOR The LORD will
have Mercy on Jacob,
and will yet choose Israel,
and set them
in their own land:
and the strangers
shall be joined with them,
and they shall cleave to
the House of Jacob.
2. And the people
shall take them,
and bring them to their place:
and the House of Israel
shall possess them
in the land of The LORD
for servants and handmaids:
they shall take them captives,
whose captives they were;
and they shall rule
over their Oppressors.
3. And it shall come to pass
in the Day that The LORD
shall give thee rest
from thy sorrow,
and from thy fear,
and from the hard bondage
wherein thou wast
made to serve,
4. That thou shalt take up
this proverb against
the king of Babylon,
and say,

"HOW HATH
THE OPPRESSOR CEASED!
THE GOLDEN CITY CEASED!"




[color=silver].[/color] JOB 38:7.

7. "When the Morning Stars
sang together,
and all The Sons of God
shouted for joy?"

WHEN YOU OMIT ONE WORD FROM A SCRIPTURAL QUOTATION, YOU CAN PERVERT ITS MEANING COMPLETELY!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlEH8AESacU

None of these Scriptures says that there is only one Morning Star- Astronomy proves that under appropriate conditions, MARS, SATURN, and JUPITER can also be seen in the daylight, and also termed "MORNING STARS." (The Ancients could tell the difference between Stars and Planets, but did not know what those differences meant, and called them all "Stars."wink

However, THE one that is constant, that is even so bright as to cast shadows, is VENUS, which is "THE" Morning Star.

The most important one.



OF COURSE, FLESH AND BLOOD DWELL IN HEAVEN, YOU FOOL! WHAT DID YOU THINK DWELT IN HEAVEN- HOLLYWOOD CARTOON GHOSTS?

[color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 5:24.

24. And Enoch walked with God:
and he (was) not;
for God took him.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 34:5-7.

5. So Moses the Servant
of The LORD died there
in the land of Moab,
according to The Word of The LORD.
6. And he buried him
in a valley in the land of Moab,
over against Bethpeor:
but no man knoweth of his sepulchre
unto this day.
7. And Moses was
an hundred and twenty years old
when he died:
his eye was not dim,
nor his natural force abated.

[color=silver].[/color] 2nd KINGS 2:11.

11. And it came to pass,
as they still went on,
and talked,
that, behold,
(there appeared) a Chariot of Fire,
and Horses of Fire,
and parted them both asunder;
and Elijah went up by a Whirlwind
into Heaven.

[color=silver].[/color] MARK 9:1-10.

AND he Said unto them,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'THAT THERE BE
SOME OF THEM
THAT STAND HERE,
WHICH SHALL NOT
TASTE OF DEATH,
TILL THEY HAVE SEEN
THE KINGDOM OF GOD
COME WITH POWER.' "

2. And after six days
Jesus taketh with him Peter,
and James, and John,
and leadeth them up
into an high mountain
apart by themselves:
and he was Transfigured before them.
3. And his raiment became shining,
exceeding white as snow;
so as no fuller on Earth can white them.
4. And there appeared unto them
Elias with Moses:
and they were talking with Jesus.
5. And Peter answered
and said to Jesus,

"Master, it is good for us to be here:
and let us make three tabernacles;
one for thee, and one for Moses,
and one for Elias."

6. For he wist not what to say;
for they were sore afraid.
7. And there was a Cloud
that overshadowed them:
and a Voice came out of the Cloud,
Saying,

"THIS IS MY BELOVED SON:
HEAR HIM."

8. And suddenly,
when they had looked round about,
they saw no man any more,
save Jesus only with themselves.
9. And as they came down
from the mountain,
he charged them
that they should tell no man
what things they had seen,
till The Son of Man
were Risen from the Dead.

10. And they kept that saying
with themselves,
questioning one with another
what the rising from the dead
should mean.

Luke 24:39-43

39. "Behold my hands and my feet,
that it is I myself:
handle me, and see;
for a spirit hath not flesh and bones,
as ye see me have."

40. And when he had thus spoken,
he shewed them
(his) hands and (his) feet.
41. And while they yet believed not
for joy,
and wondered,
he said unto them,

"Have ye here any meat?"

42. And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43. And he took (it),
and did eat before them.

[color=silver].[/color] ACTS 1:1-11.

THE former Treatise have I made,
O Theophilus, of all that Jesus
began both to do and Teach,
2. Until the day in which
he was taken up,
after that he through
The Holy Ghost had
given Commandments
unto the Apostles
whom he had chosen:
3. To whom also he shewed himself
alive after his Passion
by many infallible proofs,
being seen of them forty days,
and speaking of the things
pertaining to The Kingdom of God:
4. And, being assembled together
with them, Commanded them
that they should not
depart from Jerusalem,
but wait for The Promise
of the Father,

"Which,"

Saith he,

"ye have heard
of me.
5. "For John truly
Baptized with Water;
but ye shall be Baptized
with The Holy Ghost
not many days hence."

6. When they therefore
were come together,
they asked of him,
saying,

"Lord, wilt thou at this time
restore again The Kingdom
to Israel?"

7. And he Said unto them,

"It is not for you to know
the Times or the Seasons,
which the Father hath put
in His Own Power.
8. "But ye shall receive Power,
after that The Holy Ghost
is come upon you:
and ye shall be
witnesses unto me
both in Jerusalem,
and in all Judaea,
and in Samaria,
and unto the uttermost part
of the Earth."

9. And when he had Spoken
these things,
while they beheld,
he was taken up;
and a Cloud received him
out of their sight.
10. And while they looked stedfastly
toward Heaven as he went up,
behold, two men
stood by them
in white apparel;
11. Which also said,

"Ye men of Galilee,
why stand ye gazing up
into Heaven?
This same Jesus,
which is taken up from you
into Heaven,
shall so come
in like manner
as ye have seen him
go into Heaven."

THE GODS DWELL IN THE SEVEN HEAVENS THEREFORE, SINCE NEBUCHADNEZZAR BOASTED OF BEING A GOD, HE MUST HAVE FALLEN FROM THE HEAVEN HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO ASCEND INTO.

It is SARCASM.

[color=silver].[/color] ISAIAH 14:12-21.

12. "How art thou
fallen from Heaven,
O Lucifer, Son of the Morning!
how art thou cut down
to the ground,
which didst weaken
the nations!
13. "For thou hast said
in thine heart,

'I WILL ASCEND
INTO HEAVEN,
I WILL EXALT MY THRONE
ABOVE THE STARS OF GOD:
I WILL SIT ALSO
UPON THE MOUNT
OF THE CONGREGATION,
IN THE SIDES OF THE NORTH:
14. 'I WILL ASCEND
ABOVE THE HEIGHTS
OF THE CLOUDS;
I WILL BE
LIKE THE MOST HIGH.'


15. "Yet thou shalt be
brought down to Hell,
to the sides of the Pit.
16. "They that see thee
shall narrowly
look upon thee,
and consider thee,
saying,

'IS THIS THE MAN
THAT MADE THE EARTH
TO TREMBLE,
THAT DID SHAKE KINGDOMS;
17. 'THAT MADE THE WORLD
AS A WILDERNESS,
AND DESTROYED
THE CITIES THEREOF;
THAT OPENED NOT
THE HOUSE OF HIS PRISONERS?'


18. "All the kings
of the nations,
even all of them,
lie in glory,
every one in his own house.
19. "But thou art
cast out of thy grave
like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment
of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword,
that go down
to the stones of the Pit;
as a carcase trodden
under feet.
20. "Thou shalt not be
joined with them in burial,
because thou hast
destroyed thy land,
and slain thy people:
the Seed of Evildoers
shall never be renowned.
21. "Prepare slaughter
for his children for
the Iniquity of their Fathers;
that they do not rise,
nor possess the land,
nor fill the face of the World
with cities."

NEBUCHADNEZZAR TRIED TO BECOME A GOD ON PAR WITH GOD- AND SUFFERED A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN.

[color=silver].[/color] DANIEL 4:28-33.

28. All this came upon
the king Nebuchadnezzar.
29. At the end of twelve months
he walked in the palace
of the kingdom of Babylon.
30. The king spake,
and said,

"Is not this great Babylon,
that I have built for
the House of the Kingdom
by the Might of my Power,
and for the Honour of my Majesty?"

31. While the word
was in the king's mouth,
there fell a Voice from Heaven,
saying,

"O king Nebuchadnezzar,
to thee it is spoken;

'THE KINGDOM IS
DEPARTED FROM THEE.
32. 'AND THEY SHALL DRIVE THEE
FROM MEN,
AND THY DWELLING
SHALL BE WITH
THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD:
THEY SHALL MAKE THEE
TO EAT GRASS AS OXEN,
AND SEVEN TIMES
SHALL PASS OVER THEE,
UNTIL THOU KNOW
THAT THE MOST HIGH
RULETH IN THE KINGDOM OF MEN,
AND GIVETH IT
TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL.'


33. The same hour
was the thing fulfilled
upon Nebuchadnezzar:
and he was driven from men,
and did eat grass as oxen,
and his body was wet
with the Dew of Heaven,
till his hairs were grown
like eagles' feathers,
and his nails like birds' claws.



SATAN WAS THE SERPENT IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN WHO STOLE THE DIVINE POWER FROM ADAM AND EVE, AND SO GAINED THE ABILITY TO ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, AS THE KING OF ALL MANKIND.

[color=silver].[/color] JOB 1:6-7.

6. Now there came a day
when The Sons of God
came to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also
among them.
7. And The LORD Said
unto Satan,

"Whence comest thou?"

Then Satan answered
The LORD,
and said,

"From going to and fro
in the Earth,
and from walking
up and down in It."

SATAN IS MORE THAN A MERE RULER OF ONE CITY: HE HAS PRINCES UNDER HIM THAT RULE CITIES.

It is HYPOCRISY to question that Nebuchadnezzar was in Heaven, and not question when Lord Yeshua, as a Lucifer Morning Star, ever destroyed cities, and imprisoned men!
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 5:15pm On Jul 22, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?

Find out what the Bible says here: https://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html #morningstar #GotQuestions
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 5:12pm On Jul 22, 2022
Steep:
The difference is, Jesus is the bright and morning star but Satan is just morning star.
Lol, So you mean satan was not a bright star ba?
Politics › Re: David Hundeyin Is Egun By Tribe And Not Yoruba by tctrills: 4:50pm On Jul 22, 2022
LegendHero:
Egun people are fully Yoruba. I am an Ibadan boy and I am just as Yoruba as an Egun boy. One people under olodumare.

David Hundeyin is a fool who hates everything close to him including his father.

I won’t be surprised if he wakes up tomorrow and say he is not a black man.

I think his only true friend are the Meth people because they are the only set of morons that take every garbage he spill in and out.

For the friendship to remain intact, he is willing to do anything to feed their single digit IQ brain with more jargons per minute.
You are angry because he exposed Tinubu's drug connections. You guys would even cover crimes just to have your man elected and at the end when the economy keeps getting worse you seem not to know what caused it.
Politics › Re: David Hundeyin Is Egun By Tribe And Not Yoruba by tctrills: 4:48pm On Jul 22, 2022
Jostoman:
He is One of the best investigative journalist we have in Nigeria today.
You are very wrong, he is the very best.
Politics › Re: David Hundeyin Is Egun By Tribe And Not Yoruba by tctrills: 4:46pm On Jul 22, 2022
chriss100:
David Hundeyin’s forefathers moved down to Badagry which was part of the Oyo Empire a couple of hundred years ago during the Dahomey wars.

I don’t want to go into much details about the history, so I’ll simply summarize briefly. Back in the days the continent of Africa was made up of different empires and not states as we have them to be today. Yoruba people made up the Oyo Empire, same way Egun people were part of the Dahomey Empire (Benin Republic)

They were so many wars and conflicts going on simultaneously between different empires across the continent. Dahomey Empire which is now known as Benin Republic was blighted with wars, slave trade etcetera. To sum it all up David Hundeyin’s ancestors moved to Badagry which was part of the Oyo empire back then from Dahomey Empire probably to escape war and strife like many did back then.

The settled in Badagry and made it home. They remained here till the British/French and other colonial masters came along to colonize Africa and eventually created the various African countries we all have to till this day.

David’s father is Egun and I also heard his mother is from Akwa Ibom. His forefathers might have moved her hundreds of years ago, that doesn’t change the fact that he’s not a Yoruba. He’s Nigerian but not Yoruba. He’s not even half Yoruba. So he has no ancestral ties to the Yoruba ethnic group. He’s Egun. They have their unique language and culture.

So basically I don’t follow him on twitter but I check his handle once in a while. I have nothing against him. He’s a Nigeria and he has the right to investigate Tinubu et al. I see he has a lot of fans who are mostly anti Tinubu. We can all agree what part of the region those people are from. He’s feeding them exactly what they need. They love him… he’s their God… for now grin (ask Reno, Deji and FFK). We know how fickle the people from that region can be. They fit change am for you immediately you start to say things they don’t want to hear. For now though, he’s singing sweet melodies into their ears, so they are friends for now grin

The problem I have are with the Yoruba’s that blindly follow David to denigrate Tinubu thinking he has a lot more credibility to criticize Tinubu because he’s Yoruba too. This folks haven’t realized that David is not Yoruba and he therefore doesn’t have the interest of the Yoruba people at heart. I only recently found out David wasn’t a Yoruba boy last week. I always thought he’s was a indigenous Yoruba boy from Badagry side of Lagos. You know ethnic Lagos indigenes can have some weird names like that, so I felt he was simply one of those with a weird name.

David is not a Yoruba boy. He’s half Egun and Akwa Ibom. My advice for the woke/soro soke/liberal Yoruba’s out there following David to bring Tinubu down show know that he isn’t one of us. His ancestors have only been here a couple of hundred years ago. He’s Nigerian but not Yoruba.

Nigeria is a land mass made up of many nations. Yoruba is one of the nations unfortunately stuck in Nigeria. I pray for oduduwa one day, but while we wait for oduduwa, we as Yoruba’s need to continue to fight to preserve our interest while in Nigeria.

Every tribe in Nigeria all fight to preserve their interest one way or the other. We see how the Fulani has a strangle hold on the military and politics. They have done that over the decades to make sure Nigeria remains one so they could continue to be benefit from the natural resources found in the south south (crude oil and gas) and also the revenue from the Ports (sea/land/air), Taxes (VAT, corporate/income, bank transaction and so much more) and other means of revenue in the south west.

My advice for the Yoruba out there cooperating with the enemies to bring down Tinubu should remember how those from that region continuously mocked and laughed at you guys when we Yorubas complained to Jonathan that we were being marginalized. The thread is here on nairaland. If you check you will surely find it. Just know that these are the same people trying to bring down Tinubu and to a larger extent the Yoruba tribe. They have made you believe Tinubu is the enemy of Yorubas. They have cajoled, tricked and deceived you to join them to help bring him down. Yes, Tinubu is corrupt but no Nigerian politician is clean. They are all corrupt. The average Nigeria is corrupt. 99.9% of us will do the same thing this politician do if we had to chance to gain political positions in Nigeria.

Please go and study history pre and post independence and you will understand the envy, greed, treachery, covetousness and hate these people have for the Yoruba tribe. Their fathers passed it on them and they will surely pass it on the their children. They cycle will surely never end. They take it personal. It’s carved into their soul and subconsciousness. They have been filled with hate for Yoruba since they were born.

Just know when it’s all said and done, If Tinubu goes down and by extension the Yoruba, kindly be ready for the marginalization you all cried about a under Jonathan. I want you to be prepared because these same people from that region you worked with to bring him down will all laugh at your stupidity and naivety.

Let’s protect our ethnic group like other tribes are currently doing. Let’s not join hands with the enemy to bring our own down. We are all tribalists in Nigeria. We consider our ethnic groups before we consider ourselves Nigerians. It’s a fact and you all know it’s a fact. We aren’t one and will never be one.

I went on David Hundeyin’s twitter timeline and went as far back as I could. Here I have 2020 screenshots of him talking about his ethnic group. I never said he claimed to be Yoruba but I just want you to see that he’s a Nigerian but not Yoruba. He has no right to speak for the Yoruba because he’s not a Yoruba boy.


I’ll also add the link to his timeline so you can read the thread. This is my first topic so I have no idea on how to put a link. I’ll simply copy and paste it here. Copy the link and paste on your browser to view the twitter thread. Thanks


https://twitter.com/davidhundeyin/status/1214961164758798338
Another tribalist. Do you think the article you wrote would change anyone's mind? David Hundeyin is Egun so vote for Tinubu. How does that make sense to you? What is wrong with you people?
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus God's First Creation? by tctrills: 4:09pm On Jul 22, 2022
MMWandali:
Just like humans beget humans birds beget birds, fish beget fish

I mean that they are one - of the same nature
I didn't say that they are mates, no they are one of a kind


Flesh beget Flesh
Spirit beget Spirit
The Divine begot the Divine - by His Divine Power and Will
So God the Father Begot Jesus Christ? If so, why did you say the two of them were in the beginning. Also, explain this, Acts 17.28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Politics › Re: Pastor Giwa Adewale: Hiring Fake, Unknown Bishops Signposts APC's Failure by tctrills: 4:00pm On Jul 22, 2022
adioolayi:
You are still catching on straws....There are Bishops within same organisation...yes, they have oversight functions of pastors under them..There also Bishops in Nigeria's Pentecostal churches who do not necessarily have branches. If you don't know or haven't seen...don't debunk what you are not sure of....asides the Catholics, where these position is highly revered ...it is not the same with many Pentecostal Churches...there are many pastors that become Bishops by their own..they give themselves this title and that's what they are being called....That's the truth.
Can we stop going round in a circle sir? Please name the 39 bishops and their organizations. Or did APC forget to take down the names of these Dignitaries?
Politics › Re: Pastor Giwa Adewale: Hiring Fake, Unknown Bishops Signposts APC's Failure by tctrills: 3:36pm On Jul 22, 2022
adioolayi:
I chose to respond because you've tagged me non-christian. ...if not, I would have been silent.

How many Bishops do you know? How many denominations are actually under CANhuh Instead of us to call out CAN to remain non-partisan, and try as much as possible to put their own very house in order...You are asking me who a Bishop is.

You think it's only in Catholic faith that have a well laid down theological route that have Bishopshuh Many Pentecostal Bishops .. albeit, self acclaimed...but they are Bishops.

So, focus on the right cause...CAN should not be partisan..as simple as ABC
Now let me explain who a bishop is because you don't know. A bishop is not the pastor of one branch. A bishop has a number of pastors or reverends under him. The idea of unknown bishops is false and a cheap lie.
Even as a non-Christian, it's easy to tell. Only from the photo ops, anyone can tell these are a bunch of rented fools.
Now, what stops APC from releasing the names and diocese of the 30 bishops to clear the air. Maybe the bishops want to remain hidden abi.
That you even replied me shows that you either believe the nonsense or you are another political APC hack. Both ways it doesn't tell much of you sir.
Politics › Re: Tinubu win every political battle and his bigger than all SE politicians. by tctrills: 3:30pm On Jul 22, 2022
Godoverevery:
Pinkpussy tinubu is bigger than every politician in your region and seriously you should ashamed of yourself.

The Apc has one governor, senator, house of assembly and house of rep members in the south east
Tell me which state apga has ever won in the southwest or house of assemble position.

Tinubu choose is battle carefully and understand you can't win all the time.

Edo case was osho baba fighting obaseki.....how is that tinubu business??

Tinubu stayed off edo politics clearly because the presidency and governors were supporting obaseki.
Obaseki isn't a tinubu prodigy so what are you blabbering......the slogan edo was clearly use to mock osho baba not tinubu if you reason clearly.

Is kwara state in the southwesthuh

Your top politicians in the SE are In apc today ....how many top politicians in SW are in apgahuh

You people really wish to have someone like tinubu in the Southeast but non come close.

Call him a theif or whatever.......he has won more political battles than any Igbo man and that a fact you need to shallow no matter how bitter.

What all the crying for everyday.......on election day you people are free to vote your choice.

Even if tinubu picks a pope in the north will you people still vote himhuh Like do you think everyone is dull like you ipob.

If a northern Christian contesting for presidency should pick a Igbo Muslim as running mate will you Igbo support themhuh

Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite..
You are right, Tinubu is so big and popular in the south east. he is going to easily win the Zone.
Politics › Re: Warning To Labour Party And Obi Supporters....please ..... by tctrills: 3:28pm On Jul 22, 2022
Godoverevery:
Please am appealing to labour party and Peter OBi supporters......what you guys do on social media Please when campaign start proper don't try it physically.

Am sounding this warning because of what I heard this morning in a motor park.

We have political thugs and trust me they have no other job but violence.

Peter Obi should ensure is supporters know what they say to political opponents on the street of SW and up North to avoid violence and destruction.

Blackmailing people with talks like
If they don't vote obi they will suffer....

They are senses or foolish if they don't vote obi etc shouldn't be spoken to people who don't support him during campaigns.

Politics is very dirty and trust me.......political thugs in lagos are really planning to go physical when campaign start.

I wouldn't want people to lose there life over nothing......please let campaign maturely.

Atiku,obi,tinubu children are living abroad....it will be foolishness for anyone to loose his/her over them.

Ps: see them all attacking me with insults and threat already.......lol...I hope they won't put this country in trouble with this attitude.
Stop the nonsense. I hate this pretense. Tinubu supporters are very respectful online ba? Did any Obi supporter tell you he is planning to commit violence? It's clear that you just want to be part of the conversation.
Politics › Re: Pastor Giwa Adewale: Hiring Fake, Unknown Bishops Signposts APC's Failure by tctrills: 3:24pm On Jul 22, 2022
adioolayi:
Na lie...

They have been fact checked to be real.

That aside... Atiku's interview on Arise TV, the man is loaded and if I am to rate him, he performed excellently well...He has a clue on every governance issue and responded well...Maybe because he was a former vice-president. He was not flattering us with some unfounded data from Singapore, Egypt, Malaysia and what have you, as Peter Obi normally does grin cheesy grin.

We are yet to see Bola Tinubu's interview..he needs to come out. As far as Peter Obi is concerned..he has a long way to go..Atiku is not his mate.

My only concern...Atiku said for equity, fairness, balance and inclusiveness..he did not support a Muslim-Muslim ticket..But when he was asked about 8years of Northern President and why he doesn't think it is the turn of the South...He said it is Political Party decision..that the last President from PDP was from the South grin grin grin..here, he has forgotten equity, fairness, balance and inclusiveness...Typical of politicians, answering questions to suit their own personal interest. grin grin grin
You guys never cease. Please, mention just 2 out of the 30 bishops. I can tell you are not a Christian because if you are, you would know who a bishop is and why we don't have unknown bishops. But then ask your Christian friends if you have any before say that the fake 30 bishops have been fact-checked to be real.
Politics › This Is A Great Time To Be Atiku by tctrills(op): 3:17pm On Jul 22, 2022
We bearly talk about Atiku when in truth he is the strongest candidate and most likely to win the election.
Both Obi's supporters and Tinubu supporters are drowning themselves in constant conflict while Atiku continues to rise.
In the north, he has no serious opposition. Rabi'u Musa Kwankwaso is no match even in Kano.
He may not win so many votes down south but Obi and Tinubu would cancel each other out.
If this election goes into the second round of voting, he wins it so easily.
That's why Atiku spends most of his time in Dubia. for now, it's all cruise to him.
This spells so much for our country.
It means it would become almost impossible to get a southern president.
The south would continue to divide itself along Igbo and Yoruba lines.
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions I Have About The Existence Of A Creator God by tctrills: 2:41pm On Jul 22, 2022
Wilgrea7:
1) A SINGULAR GOD

Why exactly does the creator need to be a singular entity? All attributes we can observe, like conscious or intelligent design, can exist perfectly fine if there are 2, 3, 10 or even 100 creators. Why does the concept of a creator need to be singular?

People often say if there were multiple creators, they would run into conflict. Why exactly do multiple higher entities have to fall into conflict with each other? The fact that humans and other life forms on earth do it doesn't mean they (the alleged creators) need to do it.

And even if they do, how do we know it's not something that's bound to happen in the future, and we just don't know yet?


2) AN ETERNAL GOD

Why exactly does our creator, if it exists, need to be eternal. From our current observation, the universe began about 14 billion years ago. What law is stopping our creator from having another creator? What stops our creators from being 30 billion years old, or even 300 billion years old?

A common objection is the infinite regress fallacy. Which is to say that if you say a creator needs a creator, then you go back infinitely needing creators, which is illogical.

Except of course we don't necessarily need 1 generation of a creator. We could have 3, 4, or even 100 generations of creators. Of course there's no way to prove it. So why do we come to the conclusion that any creator we have, happens to be eternal and timeless?


3) A PERSONAL GOD

People often assume that if we were created, whoever created us MUST care for us, or be kind, and loving and whatnot. But what exactly stops the alleged creator/creators of the universe from being evil, sadistic, or simply, not caring.

We could be created just for the sake of spectatorship, where the creator/creators just want to watch the universe and see what happens. We could have creators who derive joy in seeing civilizations from different planets develop and fight each other, like in an arcade game. Or simply creators that just don't care very much. What rule is there that said a creator needs to be good, caring, loving and so on?


4) AN OMNIPOTENT / INFINITELY POWERFUL GOD

Certainly, whatever made our current universe needed to have been powerful enough to create it. But that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be infinitely powerful. You can get a universe from an infinitely powerful cause. You can also get a universe from a cause just powerful enough to create 2 universes, and not more.

On what basis do we grant omnipotence or infinite power?


I have a couple more, but I'll leave it at this for now. Please note if you're proving any point, you need to back it up with some verifiable evidence. Quoting scriptures does not equate to evidence.

Over to you guys
Man does not know everything. We learn about God one step at a time and in time all would be revealed, that is our faith.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus God's First Creation? by tctrills: 2:35pm On Jul 22, 2022
MMWandali:
It's the nature of God
He is not physical or biological as humans are
Christ His Son is also not Natural or Biological as humans are

The Sonship is not in a biologically procreative way as we humans know procreation to be.
It's Divine, godly, supernatural in a way that the human mind can't intellectually phathom

It's Spiritual as God himself designed it to be
Not the way human husband and wife have theirs
I understand that God is Spiritual, He is the father of our spirits But You claim that The Father and the Son were mates, None created the other so please, explain what you mean by Divine sonship. We all understand that even we are not God's biological Children so what does it mean to be a Divine son and what makes Christ the only Divine son.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus God's First Creation? by tctrills: 2:31pm On Jul 22, 2022
MMWandali:
No any other Divine children
As the scripture says: "ONLY begotten Son"

other humans, if they believe, can become adopted children of His Kingdom
What do you mean by divine. Only Begotten and Divine have pretty different meanings so once again, what do you mean by divine?
Christianity Etc › Re: Allah’s Wish Is For Humans To Commit Sin! by tctrills: 11:25am On Jul 22, 2022
advocatejare:
According to Islam’s teachings, Allah’s wish is for humans to commit sin.

Allah was the one that destined Adam to commit the sin of disobedience as Adam was destined by Allah to commit sin 40 years before Adam was even created.



So Allah is actually responsible for introducing sin into the world. Why then did Allah punish Adam for what the same Allah made him do?


Allah so much takes delight in sins that Muhammad told us that if humans refuse to commit sins, Allah will sweep them out of existence and replace them with those that will do his bidding of committing sins:



Clearly these have shown that Allah is not the same as Yahweh who commands his creation to be holy.


When Jesus came to earth, just like Yahweh his Holy father Jesus taught that people should be perfect just like God is, Jesus Christ never encouraged sin.



The only creation that wants you to sin is Satan, and that has always been his mission.

Be vigilant, Allah the sin lover is not Yahweh the holy God.
Who planted the tree of Knowledge in the Garden?
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus God's First Creation? by tctrills: 11:21am On Jul 22, 2022
MMWandali:
God is the Father
and He is Divine
As I said - Divine Son of God

If you say "first born" of God
It means born of God,
God is the Father - in a Divine way, not a biological way.
What do you mean by the word divine? What does it mean to be a divine son? Does God have other divine Children? Let's use simple words so everyone can understand.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus God's First Creation? by tctrills: 11:20am On Jul 22, 2022
MMWandali:
Christ the Messiah
was not created,

He was with God from the beginning
He is Divine son of God
He was not created, He is God's age mate and yet he is the divine son of God? very funny. He and God were together from the beginning and yet you believe he is God's son? explain further, please.
Christianity Etc › Re: GOD Created Satan. Disscus by tctrills: 11:14am On Jul 22, 2022
anoda:
since them teach me attributes of God for primary sch, I Neva check to comfirm am oo.
You are correct, God is omniscient, and he knows everything. The Bible confirms it.
But he allows us to make our choices because he knows that all things work out for good. He sees the end from the beginning.
Remember, he was the one that planted the tree of knowledge in the garden and commanded Adam not to eat it. He has a plan for everything and everyone. We are to have faith and believe that his ways are the best, trust his process and believe that all he does is for the Good of his children.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Both Jesus And Satan Referred To As The Morning Star? by tctrills: 11:03am On Jul 22, 2022
According to the scriptures,
Was Satan a morning star? Ans; Yes
Was Jesus Christ a morning star? Ans; Yes
Were they the only morning stars? Ans; No Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Who are the morning stars? Ans; They are sons of God who were exalted in heaven. Satan lost his position when he was cast down.
Note, all men are children of God. Acts 17. 28-29 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
But not all his Children are morning stars
Politics › Re: How Come No One Is Talking About Nnamdi Kanu by tctrills: 11:49pm On Jul 21, 2022
Ttalk:
They said Yoruba people left Sunday Igboho to pursue politics, but Igboho now enjoy house arrest at Benin, but our repentant brothers who are concerned about Biafra and Kanu are now shouting Obidient, while Kanu is still in DSS dungeon cell.
Is God not wonderful?
None of these matter. What matters is a better life for us all. If everyone was ok in Nigeria, no one would cry for Biafra or the Yoruba nation.
Politics › Re: Sowore Replies Peter Obi On National Grid Collapse by tctrills: 11:32pm On Jul 21, 2022
seunmsg:
Obi was the adviser to Jonathan when Discos and Gencos were sold to PDP cronies who know little or nothing about generation and distribution of electricity. Today, Obi, Atiku and the other PDP rogues that created the mess are the ones making the loudest noise about the problem they created.

It’s just unfortunate that Nigerians forget things too easily. Under Jonathan, power supply was extremely woeful. Buhari hasn’t performed to expectations to doubt but he has invested a lot in power generation and transmission. PDP members like Obi and Atiku that participated actively in spending $16billion to generate darkness should not be talking at all.
I believe you do not know so I would tell you. Obi was an adviser in the last year of Jonathan's gov. He was not in charge of power. What should he have done? Taken over the gov. Now that I have told you, I hope this affects your view.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Sesame Street's Rosita Ignores Black Kids At Park, Causes Outrage In U.S.(Video) by tctrills: 6:17pm On Jul 21, 2022
datola:
Abroad black children are going through a lot.

No place like home.
What are you saying? Nigeria is the world capital of Tribalism, Nepotism, and hate. Those kids are lucky not to be in 9ja at least they have a justice system over there.
Politics › Re: A Dangerous Thing Is Happening by tctrills(op): 6:03pm On Jul 21, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:
Anything that helps you cope with reality buddy.
What are you even talking about?
Politics › Re: Pastor Kumuyi Was Stopped By IPOB From Holding Crusade In Abia, CAN Did Nothing by tctrills: 3:42pm On Jul 21, 2022
Okoroawusa:
Yorubas are watching and waiting....

2023 election go stew ...

No be by noise
Yet you keep making noise each day. Yorubas are not the only voting tribe don't forget. The Hausa would also vote, The Igbo, Ijaw, and all the other tribes. It's not a tribal thing, It's an individual thing. One man to his vote. You don't have the power to make all Yorubas vote for your candidate.
Politics › Re: Pastor Kumuyi Was Stopped By IPOB From Holding Crusade In Abia, CAN Did Nothing by tctrills: 3:39pm On Jul 21, 2022
blamingthedevil:
https://twitter.com/DeeOneAyekooto/status/1550053620112138242
So you want Can to buy guns and fight unknown gunmen?
Politics › Re: See How Egypt Is Breaking Barriers And Setting The Pace For Africa. Wonders. by tctrills: 3:32pm On Jul 21, 2022
ysth:
history and economics you say? China built more cities and relocated hundreds of millions of people to them, even though all of the cities werent success stories, but a huge chunk of people were lifted from poverty and live in those cities, working in industries, school, hospitals, transportation etc. they would have all still been subsistence farmers if not the communist party took that step.
You are the impolite boy but let me answer you this one. China did not lift millions out of poverty by building new cities and moving the poor into them. China lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty through private investments creating millions of jobs in the cities. In case you don't know, the thousands of skyscrapers you see in China are privately owned. The government does not create wealth. China did not go into foreign debt to Build infrastructure. Every single country that has gone into massive debt to build infrastructure ended up in a bad place. Learn about the IMF loans of the 80s. Even with the recent Chinese loan that most nations are taking, By next year, Nigeria would find it unsustainable to pay her debt and manage its economy.
Egypt you point is entering into one of the worst food crises ever. They would need the world bank and richer nations to survive. Their economy was not prepared for the Ukraine war.
The secret to economic growth is not big government projects but allowing the private sector to take off. Ask Korea and Japan. Ask the USA. Just so you know, the first railway in the US was built by a private company. In fact, most of the rail in the US was built by private entities.
China was as poor as Nigeria until it handed over its economy to private hands. Dubai did the same, and Singapore did the same.
Rusia a country with vast minerals, Agricultural land, and tech remains one of the poorest in Europe because its government does not give businesses a free hand. While Estonia a little unknown nation has 10x its economy in the last 20 years not by building projects but by creating a more liberal economy where the government does less.
Finally, learn to disagree with other schools of thought without getting angry. As a man, the ability to control your temper, tame your response, and school your feelings makes you strong.
Politics › Re: Portable: I Won't Refund Money APC Paid Me To Campaign For Them, Won't Vote Them by tctrills: 12:29pm On Jul 21, 2022
jumper524:
You just increased your support base, Peter pandora supporters would now call you Saint.
Well oyetola got served for his failure.
You too would soon be served for your stupidity.
True Portable is an idiot but do you realize that Aero Contractors just folded up because of the high cost of fuel. APC does not deserve a single vote.
Politics › Re: Atiku Abubakar Reacts To National Grid Collapse, Sowore replies by tctrills: 12:17pm On Jul 21, 2022
searchlight:
can you imagine the fool, what about Fashola that told us that APC will fix power problem in six months and he was given 8 years as power minister and he power even became worst? Fools everywhere
Are you sure you are reacting to what I wrote?
Politics › Re: See How Egypt Is Breaking Barriers And Setting The Pace For Africa. Wonders. by tctrills: 11:30am On Jul 21, 2022
FiremanX:
Keep shut dude,,,u think everyone is a low thinking human like u,,,just look at how you are justifying nonsense which obviously means u lack basic education and have a low iq,,,,which educated person in his right sense will spew the balderdash u spewed?

u are a total disgrace to ur race
Another angry boy. Have your fun, I cant win you in your dirty fight.
Politics › Re: See How Egypt Is Breaking Barriers And Setting The Pace For Africa. Wonders. by tctrills: 11:10am On Jul 21, 2022
FiremanX:
I don't think ur brain is functioning
Because I don't agree with you, my brain is not functioning. I don't blame you, It's ASUU's fault. If you had a smooth education, you would have learned how to make your point and address those that disagree with you.

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