₦airaland Forum

AntiChristian:
How many Christian-Christian governors have Muslims frown at despite its existence? You are scared of Islam as it's the only way of life that threatens Christianity from its root!

So bro, imagine it was the other way round. Imagine a Christian candidate impersonate imams for his Inauguration, by now, there would have been killings in Kano, Kastina and Kaduna.
But the APC just used fake unknown bishops and everyone is laughing because Christians don't kill over stuff like that.

T9ksy:
No "intelligent" yoruba is supporting your dumb Obidient movement simply because, they can discern that obi's presidency will not ameliorate the unprecedented level of insecurity,
currently going on in Yorubaland.

If they are not supporting the great movement, then why did you write such a long post begging the Yorubas.
How many known Yoruba pastors were at the vice presidential candidate Inauguration today?
Why are you so scared if Yorubas are all on your side.

Dotmanroy:
How bro? �
Are there not other parties on the ballot asides Apc... I think we have more better choices tho

But let people cry about it and be sensitize. That way, more people would understand why they need to run away from the evil party

homosapien:
Same things was said when Zik almost became the premier of the western region..



If you understand the write-up, you realize that it is just a clarion call for the Yoruba not to fall into the gimmick of the nonsense Obedient mantra. Tell me which politician is not corrupt. Both the East and North turn a blind eye to the mismanagement of your political elite, yet Tinubu is on the name of every lip in iboland.


Your hypocrisy is out of these world. The write up is to enlighten the Yorubas before it too late.

It's just hypocrites, tribalism, and fear.
Don't forget that Peter Obi is just a social media fad as you guys claim. But now you are beginning to see many intelligent Yorubas supporting the movement and you begin to panic.
How come you are not warning Yoruba's about Atiku? Anyway, it's too late for your cry. APC did not make garri cheaper in Yoruba land.
APC did improve lives in Yoruba land. Your people have moved on and the left you in the tribalism of 1950s. Fool.

slimfit1:
The greater threats are coming_ where you have doctors that can't treat patients properly because they are not well educated. Engineers that can't fix our roads and planes what do you see?

I get that but protest have never made things better in Nigeria

homosapien:
Trying to plan a coup with the foolish ones among Us isn't open-minded it is called foolishness. Can Yorubas call any part if the East a no mans land, his many Yorubas are in Civil services in the East?

When you can reciprocate the gesture to Us then we can start a proper discussion.

You don't know the meaning of a coup. This backward thinking has kept us back since 1960. So if Igbos call Lagos no mans land, do you want to start killing them? Do you want to start violence? What really do you want? You want all Yorubas to vote the same way without asking questions. I think the people you call fools are much wiser than you.

slimfit1:
Brother my child was told they needs to go back to school because of a long time out of school because of covid 19, not University get that right because they don't want this generation of kids affected losing out in education not gap. One child is ok but a million too much for a country. My point is I would be out there protesting. It's abnormal for strikes to last this long and the parents of the current generation are ok with it because they had four years of strikes. Our children should be the last straw for the government to ignore.

The last potest in Lekki?

slimfit1:
I blame useless parents watching the lives of their kids waste away at home.

You are a fool. Maybe the parents should establish their own universities. The problem with you government agents is that the evil government uses fools like you to deflect blame and responsibility. You are as guilty and irresponsible as the government you are protecting.

Truthisunique2:
very simple

If some people are paid they lose their dignity and can be treated without respect

At least, they should be treated better.

Truthisunique2:
when them but you they have right to pack you like sardine na

Sorry I am not understanding what you are saying.

homosapien:
Our Elders talk about the man who was planning.to jump into the river. He had only tried putting out one leg when a crocodile jumped out of the water and snapped its mouth at his leg.

I will continue to say these things so it can be drilled into your ears and you won't say you were never told.

The jigsaw gets assembled everyday and it becomes very clear that I am right.

1. ABUJA was completely scratched out of the FOREST.

That place was a FOREST.

The Military Leaders of that Era looked at the Map of Nigeria, circled a place that they fancied as the Center of the Country, a place which conveniently fell into Northern Nigeria, and decided it was going to be the new Federal Capital Territory.

And it became so.

A master plan was designed for the city and money started flowing into the place. The money came mainly from the Oil Wealth of the Niger Delta.

In less than 20years, it was already a mighty and beautiful city, brand new and pride of the Nation.

People started moving there.

The city is now overflowing into nearby Niger and Nassarawa States.

Since that FCT got created till this day, I haven't heard of a Minister of the FCT who wasn't from the NORTH.

Infact, in recent times they have always been NORTHERN MUSLIMS.

The Igbos naturally have a very extensive presence in that city just as much as they have in Lagos and other cities in Nigeria.

The ZIONISTS are also there.

But the ZIONISTS HAVE NEVER DARED to call it a No-Man's Land.

Infact, the EndSars Movement got a rude awakening when it tried to replicate the Lagos show on Abuja.

They were quickly reminded of the OWNERSHIP OF ABUJA.

2. I have been to Kano and Kaduna severally. If you go to the area called Sabon Gari in Kano, you could confuse it for any area in the Lagos Suburbs.

The majority of the population there are Igbos.

The ZIONISTS are also there.

They have NEVER DARED to call Kano or Kaduna a No-Man's Land.

In those areas, right under their noses, the Kano People Instituted Shari'a and Constituted the Hisbah Police to enforce it on the land.

Liberties are limited.

Everybody is gentle.

They don't behave any how and they won't even begin to dream Political dreams there.

You sit gently where they want you to sit!

3. In Enugu, the IGBO man from IMO STATE knows his limits

At some point each of the SE States were flushing out Non-Indigenes from their civil service not minding that they were Igbos from Neighbouring states.

Governor Akeredolu's wife tried to show herself in her home state of Imo. She was quickly educated of the limitations of her Rights.

In Anambra particularly, it was so bad that they wouldn't even allow Bianca, the very wife/widow of Ikemba Emeka Ojukwu any space to excel.

She couldn't contest the Election in Anambra State.

She's from Enugu and had no such previlege in Anambra State.

You can then imagine the fate of a Non-Igbo in the South-East States.

It is THEIR LAND.

4. But the story has to Change in the SOUTH-WEST, Lagos in particular.

Yorubas are a liberal People. We are actually open-minded fools.

First, Lagos is declared No-Mans Land.

The ZIONISTS have been working tirelessly in the last 40years moving IGBO population strategically into the SW, Lagos State in particular.

That haa gone to very advanced stages now

They have successfully altered the demographics of Lagos.

Now, they have begun to drag the land and Rights of Indigene with you.

They know you are liberal [ Foolish ] People so they will play the EXACT game of Azikiwe

They will tell you it's "One Nigeria",."We are brothers" and that the constition ofcourse guarantees freedom of movement and equal rights for all Citizens.

They will tell you that afterall there is one Kemi contesting in Britain as PM and there is one Chukwuemeka who is Mayor in America.

They will tell you that "afterall we are in Cotonou, Kenya, etc"

They just can't tell you that you can't get the same Things and Rights applied to you in the SE and other regions.

The ZIONISTS are in the race with the Jihadists by the way.

They are actually on the same mission using different routes and methods.

By Adedamola Adetayo.

If you like, begin to act hostile and close up your land.
You call your people fools because of their independent-mindedness and exposure. You are the fool here. The average Yoruba man makes up his own mind, he does not need to wait for some elders to make decisions for him. If you call that foolishness, that makes you an idiot.

sarrki:
Christian leaders at the unveiling of kashim Shetima as Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu running mate today at the yar adua center Abuja

This is unfair, see how they squeezed them.

Nosayer:
If education didn't fail this op, he would have realized that lecturers are not always the same.

That you had sadistic lecturers who failed you severally does not mean every lecturer is the same way.

Most of my own lecturers are great people and I remember having an A in 6 of the 7 courses of a certain lecturer in a first generation federal Uni o.

If the op becomes a president, he would be worse than Buhari because according to him, Nigerian lecturers are not good. May we not have someone with his kind of mindset becoming our president.

I don't think professors deserve the big money they are asking for. If a professor is as good they claim, they would not care about the pay system because institutiona Abroad would be fighting to have them. Look at the way our nurses and doctors find positions abroad, our professors should be the same.

AntiChristian:
How many Christian-Christian governors have Muslims frown at despite its existence? You are scared of Islam as it's the only way of life that threatens Christianity from its root!

Many things to note, 1. Christians have never frowned at Muslim/Muslim governors either
I have lived in states that practice Sharia law and I never complained because these are majority Muslim states with about 10 percent or less Christian population.
But we are talking about Nigeria as a whole, not a single state. It is wrong, it does not represent our diversity, and it does not bring us together.
Now let's be honest with each other, if APC had chosen a Christian vice, would the Muslim north be happy? I have lived in the north and I can imagine what would have happened.

AntiChristian:
Whenever a pastor commits evil, Christians are quick to disown that action away from Christianity! Many Christians commit evil by virtue of the position/power they have but that actions are never attributed to Christianity!

You accuse the government of killing Shiites, where's the proof that the Shiite are not at fault?

Even if a Christian or atheist shout Allahu Akbar you'll say he's a Muslim.

The girl that was killed killed herself. Even if the culprits are punished that won't bring her back like Lazarus.
I don't support lynching in any form. But we all should respect other's religion and space.

I never condemned or discredited Islam, I only said that Islam is divided into 2 groups. 1. The violent ones that kill and rejoice when a person is killed.
2. The peaceful ones that tell you Islam is a religion of peace.
You are getting it wrong. I would not fault Islam if a Muslim leader is caught doing something wrong or something that is against his religion.
My point is, there are 2 Muslims one believes in using violence and the other says his religion is peace.
I have lived in up to 3 states in northern Nigeria. Let me tell you from my experience.
You would be attacked and beaten up for having a Muslim girlfriend and walking with her on the streets.
But if a Muslim guy has a Christian girlfriend, no violence.
I remember September 11, 2001 when the US was attacked, there was serious rejoicing among many Muslim communities including in Nigeria.
So I think it is very wrong to cliam that the violent Muslims are a minority.
During my NYSC days, a very close Muslim friend of mine told me that according to Islamic law, when a Muslim leaves the religion for another, he is killed. Now this my friend was not a killer in anyway. But the law is the law.

Just so you know, about 1 in every 7 Muslims is Shai. So if Shai is evil to the extend that the government has to wipe them out, that's a very big number of Muslims to be killed worldwide don't you think?

NwaIdeato:
The SW due to their greed for power have unwittingly sold the North a perfect ace card to use and politically dominate Nigeria for a very long time...by agreeing to the Muslim/Muslim ticket, the South West have now given the North the impetus to dare Nigeria and even float a North/North ticket in the nearest future...after all if we are seeing a time in Nigeria's political history when a Muslim/Muslim ticket is allowed...who's to say the North will not attempt a North/North ticket soon? And who will stop them if they do?

Honestly yorubas are the biggest problems we have in Nigeria, now the indigenous Northern Christians have seen through the dishonesty and duplicity of the yorubas, the South South are now disengaging themselves from yaribas...the few poor Yaribaa Christians are helpless and silent...the entire South and Middle Belt are now cutting off the SW...we're seeing a political dynamic where the only friends of the SW will be the core Northern Muslims against the rest of Nigeria

This is pure tribalism. Why blame a region of millions of people for the stupidity of one man. Please be careful. Foolish comments like these a capable of derailing the millions of Yorubas who do not support Tinubu. You need wisdom.

Kobojunkie:
Man was already made in the image of God with the ability to reason even the simplest of instructions. He didn't need to first acquire all the knowledge of God's Truth - aka knowledge of good and of evil out there - in order to accomplish even the most basic of commands. We are talking here of the same man whom God had earlier instructed to name the creatures He had created and that went well without a glitch meaning man was fully capable of processing information fed to Him and deciphering that which was fed Him.

I think you should learn to forget what you think and listen to what God says. If God says the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil, he means that man did not originally know good and evil as you presume. All the logic and robot talk no longer counts. Unless you don't understand the very simple statement from God and I am willing to listen to your interpretation of God's word.

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=114897387]Man was already made in the image of God with the ability to reason even the simplest of instructions.
The man was not aware of his unclothedness. even my 5-year-old would not allow visitors to see him naked. What are you saying.
He didn't need to first acquire all the knowledge of God's Truth - aka knowledge of good and of evil out there - in order to accomplish even the most basic of commands. You make God a liar. God says man gained Knowledge after eating the fruit. Man was not born with the knowledge. Listen to God's word.. And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

We are talking here of the same man whom God had earlier instructed to name the creatures He had created and that went well without a glitch meaning man was fully capable of processing information fed to Him and deciphering that which was fed Him.
I don't care if man named everything. The bible did not say that man was stupid. It did not say that man did not have any Knowledge. It simply teach that man did not have the knowledge of good and evil. Man was not created with such knowledge. Man obviously had knowledge of other things not good and bad.

Racoon:
Effects of climate change! The world is in trouble.

Climate change has been taking place since the planet was created. It is not a recent occurrence.

Kobojunkie:
I see this is getting nowhere fast.

A well-programmed and tested robot has knowledge enough to obey simple commands given it, even with the ability to choose. The command above already highlights that which is desired(good) and that which is not desired(evil). So, given the information above, man was more than able to make a decision for himself and this is exactly what he did, twice... first as Eve, and then as Adam.

In a well-programmed Robot; first, you need to input the knowledge before giving the command. The command alone does nothing to your robot. And yes this your robot analogy is taking us nowhere. Maybe we should first study robotic engineering before having the robot argument. Until then let's take God's very words; And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Kobojunkie:
Enough of the rambling, simply focus on what is asked abeg!

So, again, How in-depth an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

If your robot has no knowledge of good and evil, even a command would not fix that unless first, your robot eats the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Does this answer your question?

Kobojunkie:
Open your eyes... Nothing in that suggests man had no previous understanding of good and evil.

The command that was given man in itself was of knowledge of good and evil... good and bad. If man had no understanding of the command to begin with, then the conversation that ensued between Eve and the serpent, end eventually Adam would not have taken place at all.

A quick English lesson
If God had said, man is like one of us, knowing good from evil, then you can assume that man has always known good from evil.
But God said, man is become as one of us, to know good and evil. Man was not always like that. Man did not always know good and evil until he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I know you are very intelligent and simple English is not your problem but I don't want us to argue over the language.

LibertyRep:
CAN or any other group are still within their right to canvass for vote for their preferred candidate who they trust will do their biddings and reject whoever they want.

Tinubu as a candidate must have done his homework before concluding on the choice of running mate.

If this does not gel with anyone, there are other alternatives with balanced ticket.
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This issue is gradually turning to a sponsored campaign against his candidacy, and it will take a dangerous, religious tone if this persists.

There is nothing dangerous is rejecting Muslim/Muslim. No one is disturbing Atiku, is he not a Muslim?

Kobojunkie:
Open your eyes... Nothing in that suggests man had no previous understanding of good and evil.

The command that was given man in itself was of knowledge of good and evil... good and bad. If man had no understanding of the command to begin with, then the conversation that ensued between Eve and the serpent, end eventually Adam would not have taken place at all.

It only suggests that man had no previous knowledge of good and evil.

If I say, now Kobojunkie has become like one of us, to understand french. I simply mean that previously, you did not understand french. Let's not pretend that English is an issue.

If I give a 2-year-old child a command, does it mean the child knows good from evil?

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying! Scripture does not in any way say nor insinuate that at all.

You need to read what God said about that in the bible.
The scripture did not call man God's robot
Here are God's very words after Adam ate the fruit. " Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil." Now you see I was not lying.

naija4life247:
Even with 2,279 votes in the whole Osun State? You will cry blood when you start seeing results that day.

Peter Obi was not on the ballot. Labour party did not give hungry people garri to buy their votes

SmartPolician:
This idea of letting people campaign for Labour Party without a form of financial encouragement or gift items won't take Labour Party anywhere. People are hungry - 5k means the world to someone.

Peter Obi should raise funds through crowdfunding to finance his campaigns unless he just wants to be a social media president or just a motivational speaker.

The crowd is already funding him. The last time someone won without spending money on a campaign, we had Abraham Lincon.

Kobojunkie:
As far as Scripture, the Knowledge of good and evil refers to God's Law which makes clear for us that which is sin(evil) and that which is not(good).

So, again, How in-depth an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

The bible was clear, they had no understanding of good and evil before eating the fruit. If you build your robot without an understanding of Good and evil you should not expect it to choose Good. A robot cant give you what it does not have.

Kobojunkie:
Again, How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

Again, I would say you are being a bit Hypocritical, why? Because you have the knowledge of good and evil yet you are not sinless. But somehow you expect more from Adam who did not have such knowledge. That in itself is hypocrisy.

Kobojunkie:
You seem not to understand at all what knowledge of good and evil is about from the statement there.

Again, How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

I gave you an example, If I command my 5 years old kid not to cross a busy road, would you blame the child or I the father if I left the child alone by the roadside and he crossed?

Kobojunkie:
Again, How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

They had no single Knowledge of good and evil.

Kobojunkie:
Again....

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot(or even a child for that matter), with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

Yes, I would never leave my 5 years old beside a busy road even if I command him not to cross. If I do, I would have myself to blame. No one would say the child was warned. Everyone including you would blame me.