Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:24am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Of course he can be a god/God. 1 Corinthians 8:5&6 says there might be many Gods in heaven and on earth......
That link is educative. You can check it out. https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/god-yhwh/hebrew-word-for-god.htm I just read it. The writer failed to answer any of the questions we are talking about. And he suggested some things that are not from the bible. He claims Angels created the world and he calls angels Gods. The bible never did so. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:21am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: The same John and Jesus say the Father is Jesus God and Father. That's why I asked you to reconcile the 2 scriptures. John 20 17 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:20am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Of course he can be a god/God. 1 Corinthians 8:5&6 says there might be many Gods in heaven and on earth......
That link is educative. You can check it out. https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/god-yhwh/hebrew-word-for-god.htm First, if you say there is only one true God, then it's impossible to say Jesus Christ is also God. It's that simple. unless john did not mean it as you do |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:14am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Yes that's right. The Father is the one through God John 17 3 The Father was the one God Paul and the early church had. 1 Corinthians 8 6. Thus the Father is the almighty God. One being. Deuteronomy 6 4 John 1.1 tells us Jesus is God, The same John in 17.3 says the father is the only true God, reconcile the two if you can. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:12am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: I don't agree with that. The NT books also had authors and numerous manuscripts. All they did was compiling and translating. First, The Catholics claim that Peter was the first Pope so unless you have legal proof to show he was not, they have full copyrights to the new testament. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:09am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Yes that's right. The Father is the one through God John 17 3 The Father was the one God Paul and the early church had. 1 Corinthians 8 6. Thus the Father is the almighty God. One being. Deuteronomy 6 4 So if there is only one true God, Jesus Christ can't be a God. So either John was lying when he called Jesus Christ God or.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:06am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: They own no copyright bro. The books had authors. There are still even some of the old testament manuscripts around today.
The Roman Catholics has done a lot of harm than good to Christianity.
Concerning the selection of the 66 books of the Bible, they didn't just canonise it because they felt like but because the books were really the inspired and authentic ones.
Have you read any of the agnostic books? You have a point. the Catholics did very little work with the old testament but the New Testament was 100 percent their contribution. So let's say, they have the copyrights to the new Testament. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by tctrills: 2:04am On Apr 08, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: What did Jesus mean when He said, "Today you will be with me in paradise"? Where does the comma belong in Luke 23:43? We should ask the Catholics, They are the ones that gave us the bible as we know it. All other bibles were copied from the original Catholic bible. Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 1:45am On Apr 08, 2022 |
tonyuny12: That means same applied when they stood up for Jonathan Not at all. People stood up to ensure that our constitution was followed. It did not matter if Jonathan was a devil or not. The constitution was what mattered. the president was not available and the vice needed to be there. Are you suggesting that we throw away the constitution? What's your point exactly? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:36am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Christian beliefs should be based on the inspired word of God not men's doctrine! that I agree but it always boils down to men explaining what is or is not inspired by God. For example, did the bible call Jesus Christ God or Not? Is Jesus Christ god? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:35am On Apr 08, 2022 |
[quote author=cornelboy post=111747233]The Bible is a collection of books written and authored by inspired men of God. Not made by Catholic. The Catholics only sorted it out. Books like gospel of Mary, gospel of Thomas for examples were not really written by Mary and Thomas. They were even written long after the present books of the NT were written. They are clearly not inspired. Wrong.. the books written by inspired me came long before the bible but the collection and the decision on what should be called inspired and uninspired are what resulted in the bible we have today. Again, if you believe that the Catholics could tell what was inspired or not, then clearly you believe they were inspired by the Holy Ghost because that's the only way to tell things of the Spirit. Now if they had the Holy Ghost (The Spirit of Truth), why do you disbelieve their doctrines?
The point is, as a true Christian, all our doctrines should be based on the Bible. I disagree. We all base our doctrines on the bible yet we continue to argue. each using passages that favor his argument. or didn't you read where the bible called Jesus God?
[b]Of course Mary was the mother of [b]human Jesus. Jesus never had any mother before he came to earth to fulfill his Father's will. The belief of the Catholics in Mary is beyond that.[/b] We both agree she wasn't his Heavenly mother but his earthly mother. I would not explain the Catholic viewpoint. Let's look for a catholic to do so.
They are not. God is responsible for it. His word would endure. I don't see your point, the word of God would endure even without a bible. God is responsible for everything, but he uses men, and the men responsible for the bible as you know it is the Catholics.
The KJV Bible is actually a trinitarian bible. It contains some additions to make the trinity dogma scriptural. Even the versions older than King Jame came from the Catholic collection and I believe they are in a better position to tell us what was in the original bible than you.
Let's put it this way, If the bible was written today, the Catholics would own its copyrights. That would mean you and I could go to jail for modifying or retranslating without permission. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:22am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Well the Catholics beliefs in Mary is far more than this. Some random Christian bro called it blasphemy! That's my point, all churches have different beliefs. It seems like you are saying that other Churches are not allowed to have any belief outside those of the Catholics. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Satan now? by tctrills: 12:55am On Apr 08, 2022 |
haddeylium: Do you have a Bible handy?
You might want to consider this scriptures
Revelation 12:7–9 New American Standard Bible
7 And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, 8 and they did not prevail, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
Satan and his Angels is confined to earth. Satan and his Angels are working tirelessly Satan and the demons are hard at work misleading people by controlling the governments and religions and social environment of humans. Such problems are part of the what is called the “time of the end.”
The worst is yet to come. You should reach out to one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to learn how to gain entrance into the kingdom the will soon put an end to all suffering and disease, war and violence and even death will be no more.
Thanks for your time Were these verses talking of what had happened at that time or what would take place in future times? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 12:45am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Well the Bible didn't come from the Catholics. It's God's word.
Though they had the Bible with them all along, they are doing contrary to God's commandments, teaching the doctrines of men rather than the inspired TRUTH.
My take is that if Roman Catholics could establish that Jesus is God in same essence as the Father, then it's 100% right that Mary is the mother of GOD.
But acurrate interpretation of the Bible clearly show that both dogma are not biblical altogether. Another way to look at it is this, was Mary the mother of Jesus Christ? If yes, is Jesus Christ a God? Does that make Mary the Mother of God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Sexual Perversions & Immorality Are Evidence Of Demon Possessions by tctrills: 12:28am On Apr 08, 2022 |
rightdata: Physically, but alot goes on in the realm of the spirit. The mad man of Gadara was tearing and injuring himself when demons were manipulating him. But once the demons were cast out, he began to think and behave normally, All those men behaving and dressing like women are under demonic manipulation. Even the women who behave like men are possessed by demons. Deliverance and prayers can free them. So since you claim that those committing sexual sins are not in control of their actions, the sin is not on them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 12:27am On Apr 08, 2022 |
cornelboy: Well the Bible didn't come from the Catholics. It's God's word. It is God's words obviously but the bible as we know it is a collection of God's words made by the Catholic church. It was the church that decided what should or should not be included in your bible.
Though they had the Bible with them all along, they are doing contrary to God's commandments, teaching the doctrines of men rather than the inspired TRUTH. That's the point, just because others agree with the Catholic in some doctrine, does not mean they are bound to agree with everything.
My take is that if Roman Catholics could establish that Jesus is God in same essence as the Father, then it's 100% right that Mary is the mother of GOD. Or rather, if the Bible calls Jesus Christ god which it did in John 1 then Mary was clearly the Mother of God. Only that she was his earthly mother.
But acurrate interpretation of the Bible clearly show that both dogma are not biblical altogether. The Catholics are responsible for your present bible so I don't know how you can be more accurate unless you have copies of the words of the Apostles that predate the modern bible |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 11:49pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tonyuny12: Did same money played a big part when he and others fronted the Save Nigeria Group that demanded that Jonathan be made president after the dramas around the late president in the person of Musa Yar You could be right money might have played a role then too |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 11:48pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tonyuny12: Same voice stood for Jonathan during the drama that played out around the death of the then president. That's no excuse for the bad decision of electing Buhari. We all know that money easily changes people's opinions. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 11:14pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
helinues: Do I have to express myself more clearer? I doubt except if this na comprehension issue Well, you are the rude boy that refused to apologize. I guess we cant help you if you refuse to take counsel. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 11:08pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
helinues: Different monikers but same exact lines.. Coincidence? Or this na inferiority complex thing just to revalidate yourself. 3rd monikers on a thread
Hahaha I wish I understand what you are saying. can you please express yourself clearly |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 11:07pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
Benbellamor: Tinubu confused the man, in 2014 I can remember when Aregbesola even named him the director of black heritage in osun...Tinubu phyc baba with money and influence... Now he is recanting his words but internet don't forget Clearly, money played a big part |
Politics › Re: Drones To Detect Terrorists To Be Made In Ogun State by tctrills: 10:34pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
WATCHOVER: Something is wrong with this country, how can the government allow the press to have such sensitive information?, and why would the press out of stupidity voice this kind of information Out. We are talking about giving more freedom to the press and you are taking us back to 1020 AD. Na wa for you ohh |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 10:31pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tesppidd: Point of correction; People are not disagreeing with Soyinka's opinion.
They are abusing and calling him names! and then you call their father's names. You really have a problem. Do you really believe that it's okay to insult people's fathers because they called public figures names? Can you honestly say that you have never insulted a public figure? Should people insult your father for that? |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 10:27pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
[quote author=tesppidd post=111744911]Lol
Keep on deceiving yourself that you are vindicated. How do you mean.
As you compare between Buhari and Jonathan;
Also compare dollar rate during Gej and the millitary
Bag of rice during Gej and the millitary
Bag of cement during Gej and the millitary it doesn't make sense to compare prices so I would not. Prices go up in all countries. But we can compare poverty level and corruption. The stats are there for all to see.
Then you would realize that Nigeria has been going bad from day one. We elect leaders to change things and not to make excuses for them.
If Gej had won a second term it wouldnt be different. Nigeria had its biggest economic growth since the 70s under GEJ so what is your point.
Lastly i repeat; the voters in 2015 knew the antecedent of Buhari but still voted him over Gej. And we are all suffering from their bad decision.
That speaks volume doesn't it? You are right on this, It speaks volumes about the deliberate stupidity of many Nigerians. They would knowingly choose evil. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 10:20pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
helinues: Mr kettle, did you read where the guy was calling Soyinka a liar? Had he has respect for others parents, may be we could have respected his.
Btw, is this your alternative moniker just to revalidate yourself? What is wrong with you, Soyinka is a public figure and his actions are under public scrutiny. If you show a lack of home training because someone disagrees with Soyinka's position, it's shame on you. The reason we all are on this thread is to discuss whether Soyinka was right or wrong not to call out people's parents. Please apologize and turn a new leaf. |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Sexual Perversions & Immorality Are Evidence Of Demon Possessions by tctrills: 10:12pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
rightdata: Every activity starts from the mind and demons manipulate the minds of men to do evil. They speak to your spirit man. Do you know the meaning of the word possession? When you are possessed, you are not responsible for your actions. I am responsible for my wrong actions not some demons |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 9:58pm On Apr 07, 2022*. Modified: 10:15pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
[quote author=tesppidd post=111744027]You still don't get the logic here.
Hindsight is such a beautiful thing.[/b]Ther was no case for hindsight. Buhari was not someone we did not know. This man toppled a democracy a few decades back. we knew him too well.
[b]And trust me you are not smarter than the majority who decided Gej had to go actually, I was and I feel vindicated. And that Buhari even with his antecedent was a better option. explain. Let me give you a little example to compare the 2 men. We shut down Nigeria over oil subsidy removal under Jonathan. We tried it under buhari and we got the lekki shooting. Buhari is ready to murder anyone who protests against him.
And stop acting like Gej and Buhari were some hardcore administrators or intellectuals who mastered their fields or something.. None of them is an Abraham Lincon but out of 2 evils, choose the better
The only difference between Gej's regime and Buhari's regime is that in the former many many people were looting and looted money was going round but in the former dew people are looting and money isn't going round. Actually, transparency international has declared us more corrupt under buhari so i don't know what you are talking about.
But did it out of ethnic, religious or material sentiments... People like Reno... You have no evidence of this. Even in 2015, we had Hausas and Yorubas that voted for GEJ. Were they also sentimental? Jonathan is Ijaw a minority group. His votes did not come about because of his tribe.
If we all continue to think like you, we would never take responsibility for our wrong actions. You seem to prefer to blame the wrong admin rather than the present. You even put the blame on leaders 50 years back. If all Nigerians think like you, we would never correct our mistakes. |
Science/Technology › Re: Inside World’s Saddest Zoo With Blind Bear Locked In Cage For 30 Years (Photos) by tctrills: 9:33pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
Odewaleadesoye: Source: The Sun News Would you rather have a blind bear in a forest, The cage is the best place for a blind bear that is why it has survived for 30 years |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 9:30pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tesppidd: Most countries in the world are having their worst periods.
What did you think a covid 19 pandemic and oil industry crisis would do to a useless monoeconomy like ours where we produce nothing but have been importing almost everything for 50 years plus?
I repeat the signs were there in 2014, if Gej had won a second term Nigeria would not be in existence today. first you are wrong. global poverty has been on the decline since 2014. secondly, the current high cost of oil has been too good for oil-producing countries. The profits in 2021 were much more than the loss in 2020. Then I find it funny that you are willing to condemn the administration of 2014 but find it impossible to speak the truth about Buhari. Finally, what were the good points or what qualities did you see in Buhari in 2014? |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 9:14pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tesppidd: What we saw coming was that as at late 2014 the Federal Government was already borrowing to meet basic needs like salaries and boko haram were taking territiories all over the north.
The foundation was already laid. I wonder were Nigeria would be today if Jonathan had continued. Nigerians now look back to those days as good times. Let's not fool ourselves, It has never been this bad and we knew it in 2014. GEJ was not great but Nigeria actually had some of our best growth under him. we also had some of our biggest reductions in poverty and corruption according to transparency international. The point is, we knew buhari would finish us and yet we voted. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 9:10pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tesppidd: Wole Soyinka is better than people like you.
He campaigned against a bad product in 2015 and he has been campaigning against a bad product since 2018.
But people like you did not campaign against a bad product because of selfish and parochial interests. Soyinka cannot be better than me,m I was against Buhari the worst product. I did not pretend that he had changed. I was also aware that GEJ was not great but I refused to fool myself and others that Buhari was better. So I think I was the better one here. If Soyinka is an honest person, he would not have campaigned for a known bad product in 2015. I chose the better candidate in 2015 |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Responds To Prof. Wole Soyinka regarding his stands on Buhari by tctrills: 9:05pm On Apr 07, 2022 |
tesppidd: Even with that 'history' Nigerians still prefered him to Gej in 2015.
What does this tell you??
It very simply tells you that Jonathan was not an option in 2015. First, it does not remove the responsibility from those who voted for him. It's really funny that they are all claiming innocent when they are the cause of our problem. No one can say they didn't see this coming |