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Ohyoudidnt:
مَا دَلَّهُمْ عَلَى مَوْتِهِ إِلاَّ دَابَّةُ الاٌّرْضِ تَأْكُلُ مِنسَأَتَهُ فَلَمَّا خَرَّ تَبَيَّنَتِ الْجِنُّ أَن لَّوْ كَانُواْ يَعْلَمُونَ الْغَيْبَ مَا لَبِثُواْ فِى الْعَذَابِ الْمُهِينِ﴾
(nothing informed them (Jinn) of his death except a little worm of the earth which kept (slowly) gnawing away at his stick. So when he fell down, the Jinn saw clearly that if they had known the Unseen, they would not have stayed in the humiliating torment.) meaning, it became clear to the people that they (the Jinn) were lying.

Above is the arabic text and meaning in English. Please point out 1 year.

Then you mention 3 witnesses. Witnesses to what please? I see you are confusing witnesses and scholars. SMH.

In any case you present translations though I doubt any of these scholars presented their exegesis in English language.

1. Show me where I said ONE YEAR: because I have always consistently said almost one year because not every Tafsir say exactly one year.

2. What I have said is that your scholars agree with me and not you! Are you better than your scholars?

Nevertheless,
Is Al-Jalalayn Wrong?
34.14 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And when We decreed for him, for Solomon, death, in other words, [when] he died — he remained supported against his staff an entire year, while the jinn continued to toil in hard labour as was customary, unaware of his death, until [finally] when a termite ate through his staff, he fell to the ground [and was seen to be] dead — nothing indicated to them that he had died except a termite (al-ard is the verbal noun from uridat al-khashaba, passive verbal form, in other words, ‘it [the piece of wood] was eaten away by a termite [al-arada]’) that gnawed away at his staff (read minsa’atahu or minsātahu, replacing the hamza with an alif, meaning a ‘staff’, so called because [when describing it one would say] yunsa’u bihā, to mean it is used to repel or drive away [creatures]’)....


Is Ibn-Abbas Wrong?

34.14 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And when We decreed death for him) for Solomon, Solomon died and remained standing in his retreat for a year (nothing showed his death) the death of Solomon (to them save a creeping creature of the earth) a woodworm (which gnawed away his staff) and it is said: his short spear. (And when he fell) when Solomon fell to the ground (the jinn saw clearly how) the jinn and human beings saw clearly that they do not know the unseen, (if they had known the unseen, they would not have continued in despised toil) they would not have continued in their subservience. People thought before this that the jinn knew the unseen but when they saw this they realised that they did not

Is Ibn-Kathir Wrong
34.14 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
The Death of Sulayman
Allah tells us how Sulayman, peace be upon him, died and how Allah concealed his death from the Jinn who were subjugated to him to do hard labor. He remained leaning on his stick, which was his staff, as Ibn `Abbas may Allah be pleased with him, Mujahid, Al-Hasan, Qatadah and others said. He stayed like that for a long time, nearly a year. When a creature of the earth, which was a kind of worm, ate through the stick, it became weak and fell to the ground. Then it became apparent that he had died a long time before. It also became clear to Jinn and men alike that the Jinn do not know the Unseen as they (the Jinn) used to imagine and tried to deceive people. This is what Allah says:



If you need the Arabic version, please go to https://quranx.com/tafsirs/ 34.14

I can't paste the Tafsirs in Arabic as seun's Nairaland bots will ban my account.



So, am telling lies against your religion or saying exactly what majority of your scholars interpret the Qur'an to mean?

You own me an apology sir!

Ohyoudidnt:
What arabic or translation says 1 year in the verse?

Write out your Tafsir showing 1 year and prove they categorically say 1year.

Will you apologise to me if I show your sources showing that Solomon died standing for almost one year?

FxMasterz:
Someone among them just did. He said Alexander was never a prophet of Islam.

I am aware of their arguments.

Modern islamic scholars are embarrassed by this: thus they try to change the narrative.


Here is what one of their most trusted scholars said

Tafsir Qur'an 18.83 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And they, the Jews, question you concerning Dhū’l-Qarnayn, whose name was Alexander; he was not a prophet. Say: ‘I shall recite, relate, to you a mention, an account, of him’, of his affair

Al-Jalalayn is a Muslim scholar not a Christian!

So, Dhul-Qarnayn is Alexander the Great: a bisexual and Idolater. Allah spoke to him and gave him an assignment in the Qur'an

FxMasterz:
I don't think so. Truth would free them but it is one thing to read the truth, and it's another thing to know it. The read the truth but fail to know the truth. The Bible has described their situation well.

2 Timothy 3:7
"Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

To Muslims, the truth is not enough. This is exactly why they will deliberately negate a truth with their lies and fabrications so that Islam can escape the truth.

Do you think any sensible human being can say that Mohammed is the best example for mankind?

Is it possible for a man who flirts with the wife of his adopted son because the best example for mankind?

Ohyoudidnt:
The identification of Zul-Qarnain has been a controversial matter from the earliest times. in general the commentators have been of the opinion that he was Alexander the Great but the characteristics of Zul-Qarnain described in the Qur'an are not applicable to him. However, now the commentators are inclined to believe that Zul-Qarnain was Cyrus, an ancient king of Iran. We are also of the opinion that probably Zul-Qarnain was Cyrus, but the historical facts, which have come to light up to this time, are not sufficient to make any categorical assertion.

-Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi

As expected you pick the slightest argument that agree with your fancy and stop looking.
Why?
Is this how you ascertain what is true without thorough probe?

At least you concur that the story of Dhul-Qarnayn is a HISTORICAL truth, then you must be able to answer these questions


Since you are so sure that Dhul-Qarnayn is NOT Alexander the Great,
1. So then, who is Dhul-Qarnayn in history apart from Alexander the Great?
2. Where is the remnants of the wall he built?
3. Who were the people he found beside the setting of the sun?
4. Where is the location?

Finally, does the sun set inside ANY kind of water?

If it is history, it must be reality!




Otherwise, if you claim that Dhul-Qarnayn is Cyrus,
1. Where is the wall he built or it's remnants?
2. Who were the people he met beside the setting place of the sun

Ohyoudidnt:
What else is to be expected from Mr Argument, Argument?

The identity of Dhul-Qarnayn remains a subject of speculation and interpretation, as different people have offered diverse perspectives on this enigmatic figure.

Dhul Qarnayn can be any good ruler who helped the oppressed against the oppressor, stopped corruption, applied the law of God, and established justice among people.

Even your Scholar Al-Jalalayn saulys that Dhul-Qarnayn is Alexander! Are you unaware of this?

Tafsir Qur'an 18.83 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And they, the Jews, question you concerning Dhū’l-Qarnayn, whose name was Alexander; he was not a prophet. Say: ‘I shall recite, relate, to you a mention, an account, of him’, of his affair

There were minor questions you should answer because the case of Dhul-Qarnayn is a HISTORICAL event isn't it?
1. So then, who is Dhul-Qarnayn in history apart from Alexander the Great?
2. Where is the remnants of the wall he built?
3. Who were the people he found beside the setting of the sun?
4. Where is the location?

Ohyoudidnt:
2. Where is it categorically stated that prophet Suleiman may Allah be pleased with him died for a year before his death was discoverd?

I am surprised you didn't know that Allah said he died for ALMOST one year before he was discoverd.
Quran 34:14
And when We decreed death for him, nothing showed his death to them save a creeping creature of the earth which gnawed away his staff. And when he fell the jinn saw clearly how, if they had known the Unseen, they would not have continued in despised toil.

The three scholars of Islam were unanimous in their commentaries that it was almost a year
1. Tafsir Ibn Kathir Qur'an 34:14
2. Tafsir Ibn ‘Abbâs Qur'an 34:14
3. Tafsir Al-Jalalayn Qur'an 34:14

If you disagree that his death was NOT almost a year, can you tell us how many minutes it took for Solomon's death to be a miracle?

Ohyoudidnt:
The rate at which termites eat wood can vary based on several factors such as the species of termite, colony size, type of wood, climate, and location. Was it the whole length of the walking stick that was eaten be it toppled over under load?
You try to show a higher degree of intelligent reasoning.

Where did your scholars got the almost one year timeline? Were they fabricating history?

I have brought three witnesses to support my position, where are your witnesses?

Ohyoudidnt:
3. Legend, myth or reality who are you to determine exactly how messages are delivered? Depending on which calendar is presented what is your age?

There is wide disagreement about where they were located. Some say Greece. Some say Turkey. Some even mention Andalusia or Islamic Spain however the similarity of this story through different people and culture should point to some reality about it.

Awn!
What an argument?
Did you not see that I wrote FOUR accounts from four different cultures including ARABIC from Allah?

The legend of the seven sleepers was a story written by
The Greek account by Simeon Metaphrastes
The Latin account by St. Gregory of Tours and
The Syriac version by Jacob of Serugh, from which Coptic and Georgian accounts arose.
The Arabic version by Allah and his prophet Mohammad


What it means it that they were copying each other and only one was the original source of the story.
The Arabic version is the latest of the four meaning that the version in the Qur'an copied their earlier ones.

If you think the version of Allah is the correct version,
1. Can you tell me exactly how many people were in the cave and how many dogs (surely, Allah must know the answer)?
2. Can you explain how Allah preserved the Christian in a cave (who believed that Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead by the third day) contrary to Islamic invention?

Ohyoudidnt:
I see you have referred to Tafsir Jalalyn. How many Tafsir share this view?

The three scholars of Islam were unanimous in their commentaries

1. Tafsir Ibn Kathir Qur'an 34:14
2. Tafsir Ibn ‘Abbâs Qur'an 34:14
3. Tafsir Al-Jalalayn Qur'an 34:14

Ohyoudidnt:
Alexander the great is not a prophet of Islam and was never said to be.

Have you found your psalms equivalent in the Quran?


Is your faith blind or you don't have the capacity to reason independently and only follow what who you idolize tell You?

Why are you denying Alexander the Great?

Did not your Allah speak directly to him (things he did not do even for Mohammed)?


Did you never read the Tafsir of Al-Jalalayn

Tafsir Qur'an 18.83 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And they, the Jews, question you concerning Dhū’l-Qarnayn, whose name was Alexander; he was not a prophet. Say: ‘I shall recite, relate, to you a mention, an account, of him’, of his affair


Why do you think Al-Jalalayn named the two Horned one as Alexander and not TenQ?

Ohyoudidnt:
Alexander the Great and Dhul Qarnayn are two different individuals and this is conclusive based on actual research.

You can twist your thoughts and views but they will only remain your personal mischief.

What is the concept of time to the Jinn? Do you have an encounter with them to know? Maybe as they seem to be or trouble you? What is the essence of the verse you refer to?

Are the sleepers of Ephesus conclusively adjudged to myth or legend? Is it similar to other legends and myths you accept as truth?

Since you are so sure that Dhul-Qarnayn is NOT Alexander the Great,
1. So then, who is Dhul-Qarnayn in history apart from Alexander the Great?
2. Where is the remnants of the wall he built?
3. Who were the people he found beside the setting of the sun?
4. Where is the location?



Tell me, did Solomon actually died for almost a year and no one knew about his death?
It's not about the Jinn sir!

Is Solomon not a human being?
Does he not have wives?
Does he not eat or take his bath?
Does he not have subjects who daily visits him in his palace?
Tell me, did Solomon actually died for almost a year and no one knew about his death?


You said: Are the sleepers of Ephesus conclusively adjudged to myth or legend?
Response: It is both a myth and a legend


You said :
Is it similar to other legends and myths you accept as truth?
Response: Does it matter especially if Allah thought that the myth and legend is REAL?

The legend of the seven sleepers was a story written by
The Greek account by Simeon Metaphrastes
The Latin account by St. Gregory of Tours and
The Syriac version by Jacob of Serugh, from which Coptic and Georgian accounts arose.
The Arabic version by Allah and his prophet Mohammad

The story was written to encourage people struggling against the unbelieving rulers to be patient as they will ultimately overcome.
The story was written after the peak of the Christian persecution by the Roman government in (249-251 AD)

Mohammed put it in the Qur'an of Allah in 600+ AD


Why did Allah present the story as Real?

FxMasterz:
May God open their eyes.

Amen!

However, it takes more than the Truth to set a Muslim free. Unless they receive mercy, the Truth doesn't move them one bit.

Otherwise, droves of them would have left Islam since the inception of Nairaland Christian session

FxMasterz:
In short, an idolater and bisexual is a prophet of Allah.

Modern Muslims are struggling to deny Alexander the Great now o!

AntiChristian:
God ordered people to do it in your Bible!
What they did is called by many names today!

Terrorism, Genocide, annihilation, war crimes, etc.

If your God supports it then and you can't condemn Him and those He supported what moral standing do you have to condemn any similar acts now if not hypocrisy?

Thanks for speaking the truth for once wrt the highlighted in Yellow . The Qur'an was a deception all along

My question was simple:
Is it possible that God does Genocide?

What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children in the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?

Ohyoudidnt:
I have come to know you as habitually argumentative even when there is uncertainty in your claims. The Quran is entirely from Allah.

You will need to prove beyond reasonable doubt that legend of Alexander the Great is mentioned in the Quran.

Whatever doubts you have about the people of the cave or the death of Solomon are entirely yours to as you were neither there nor have any convincing evidence to the contrary.

Alexander the Great is the Two Horned One (Dhu Qarnayn) do you want to refute this?

You may want to read what Ibn Kathir wrote about him and show in history any one else called the two Horned one.

Tell me, did Solomon actually died for almost a year and no one knew about his death?

Was the legend of the seven sleepers a real occurrence or a fiction?

FxMasterz:
Lol. Prophet Alexander. This is very hilarious. The same Alexander the Great is a prophet of Islam? Or another Alexander?

I found this online just now. The truth about Islam is really coming out.

Former Christians among Mohammed's scribes. The. Muslims will say the the Qur'an is a RECITATION

FxMasterz:
But is Alexander the Great not truly a prophet in Islam?

I do not doubt that it's there. I researched it and found it. I think it's Zabur 3:5 or something.

Look at something else I found. Can you explain the screenshot?

In Islam, a prophet or messanger is a person who receives a message from Allah.

Dhu al-Qarnayn received message from Allah in the Qur'an, this makes him a prophet. Of course Muslims will deny this because Alexander the Great was an Idolater and a bisexual BUT Mohammed didn't seem to know this

Qasim6:


What is this?

There is no way one who listen to the likes of Jay Smith and not lose some gray matter.

See all the gibberish you are vomiting!

Have you ever seen me use anything from Jay Smith for you?

Your Qur'an, Hadith and Tafsirs are enough for me to deal with the lies of Islam.

How about legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers or Solomon dieing for almost a year on his walking stick.

Are you Sure this was Allah or Mohammed narrating these stories?

Ohyoudidnt:
Fortunately you have a mind of your own. Make your own research and don't follow the ignorant whims of another that has an erroneous quarrel with himself about the truth.

The Quran is the central religious text of Islam and contains guidance for all aspects of life. It does not specifically mention the legend of Alexandra. It is important to focus on the teachings and guidance provided in the Quran and the authentic Hadiths when seeking knowledge about Islam.

Were you told Psalm 16:10 is in the Quran and you believe it without verifying?

How about legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers or Solomon dieing for almost a year on his walking stick.

Are you Shure this was Allah or Mohammed narrating these stories?

FxMasterz:
You know really much bro. So, the legend of Alexandra is also in the Quran? It was Allah who revealed that too?

It is amazing that Allah who directly chose NOT to speak to Mohammed decided to directly speak to Alexander the Great.

So , we see prophet Alexander PBUH being shown where the sun sets in some dark murky waters. Even Moses wasn't given such a privilege

FxMasterz:
I learnt that the very Psalm that spoke about the the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is plainly written in the Quran as one of the Zabur of David:

"For you will not leave my soul among the dead or allow your holy one to rot in the grave." Psalm 16:10.

Meanwhile, being oblivious of this prophecy which Mohammed evidently copied from the. Bible without knowing what he was copying, he went and contradicted the same prophecy, saying Christ never died.

Mohammed never read the Torah not the Psalms nor the Injeel. However, he heard stories from many of his slaves some of them who were Christians and some of the stories he put in the Qur'an are from the Jews and other far away legends like the legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers. Anything he thought was interesting was put in the Quran in form of SAJA

It was said that many of the poets in Mohammed's time made fun of him because his Saja wasn't good. SAJA was the style of literatures Poets used in presenting their songs (more like Rap Music). Mohammed latter banned any arabs from using Saja poetry so that the Qur'an remains the only surviving Saja compilation of the Arabs.

Some people insinuate that the bulk of the Quran was initially a hymn to Christ (in one of the Syriac languages)which was later modified piece by piece to become the Qur'an;in Arabic. They insinuate that this is why some parts of the Qur'an is actually meaningless unless one look at it from the Syriac languages.

These are still too deep for me so that I keep my fingers crossed and deal with the one I know.

FxMasterz:
Hmm. This would be a very interesting kind of research to embark on.

I prefer to leave this to the experts of both Arabic and Tools of analysis of ancient texts and scriptures.

For now, the Qur'an, Hadiths, Tafsirs and other Islamic documents are doing great work of destroying Islam for me.

Expanse2020:
Yes
ALLAH IS THE LORD OF THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING EXIST INCLUDING JESUS, SATAN, ANGEL WATER, HUMAN.. EVERYTHING

Talk is cheap!

If Allah couldn't determine who stole the underwear nor could he raise the dead when it matters, how can he be said to be God !?





Again and back to square one: Answer my Questions:

1. Can Allah be simultaneously and fully be in two or more places at the same time?
If he cannot, he isn't God ?
2. Is the Oneness of Allah different from the oneness of Iblis?
3. Does Allah have the ability to enter his creation without ceasing to be God
4. I give you this challenge
Tell me the name of ANY being that can Fully and Simultaneously BE or EXIST in two or more different space at the same time? Yahweh can do this Because He's a Trinity?

I expect you as usual to escape by making baseless repetitions thinking that it will free you from the consequences of the Truth!

FxMasterz:
Thank you. I'll research deeper on this. The fact is that if Mecca indeed was not in existence as at the purported times of Mohammed's life, then something is really fishy.

Most of the Ancient Islamic Books seems all to originated not from Mecca or Medina but in Baghdad and the northern kingdoms North above Saudi Arabia.
My issue is the tonnes of hadiths they have for Mohammed.
For now, we keep our fingers crossed until they come out with something beyond any argument

FxMasterz:
Infact the local African traditions don't tell lies about their religion. Those ones are just ignorant. But Islam is deliberate lies that must be defended with the sword.

The bolded is the real fact. Islam was created by Satan to fight against the salvation that Jesus brought.

I'll like to know more about the possible fabrication of mohammed. How did you arrive at this?

This the research Jay Smith and Al-Fadi have been doing for some years now.

Mohammed seems to be a superimposition of a fictional Mohammed with a Real Mohammed based on a gnostic Christian offshoot

Check on YouTube for some of their submissions

AbuTwins:
Yeah, Proofs Holy Spirit revealed to you!

Do you mean Angel Jibril?

Answer my Questions:


The problem is that I show you proofs from both your Qur'an, Hadith and sometimes your Tafsirs but you don't d likewise

BUT
You don't show any proof other than Repeating baseless Rhetorics which goes contrary to reason yet you expect me to believe them.

Like:
1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?
2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?
3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

Instead of responding to the questions, what you do is to repeat the standard islamic narrative without any corresponding evidence or proof from the Qur'an.

This is my issue with you Muslims

AbuTwins:
You need to answer the question directly first before asking yours!
Na hypocrite dey do like that!

When you see a hypocrite asking questions for which he is clearly biased against the TRUTH, you ask him questions that betray his hypocrisy

And I asked a basic question:
What do you think of the One who gave such a command: Do you consider Him a terrorist seeing that the reason for this extermination is not for material gain?

Since you include Moses and Joshua, do you concur that Mohammed is a Terrorist?


I also said:
What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children bin the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?


Thirdly:

What also do you think of a certain "prophet" who without instruction from his God slaughtered over 700 Jewish men who helped him to did the trench at the Battle of the Trench?
When will you call this terrorism too?

AbuTwins:
Same foolish questions we have answered but you keep parroting day and night!

As you don't answer my questions, why wouldn't I repost them to you in case you are dull in understanding


1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?

2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?

3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

AbuTwins:
Why are there many "Holy Spirit" helping you to interpret the Bible?

If you place 100 Christians in separate rooms and give them a Bible verse to interpret, each may come up with a slightly/majorly different interpretations! Is it because the Holy Spirit is a lie too?

Another strawman as usual?
Can you show me a verse where the Holy Spirit is to help us interpret the Scriptures?

Every Christian can interpret the bible as he wills and others will judge his interpretation of it is in agreement with the scriptures and take their stand based on TRUTH and REASONING.


Unfortunately, in your case, your scholars do the interpretation and reasonings for you. Yours is to believe them whether they speak the truth or not.

No wonder, Muslims adopt falsehood simply because this is the position of their scholars

AbuTwins:
Yeah, Proofs Holy Spirit revealed to you!

Can you see yourself?
You wouldn't respond to any direct questions



1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?

2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?

3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

AbuTwins:
You don't want discussion but arguments!

The problem is that I show you proofs from both your Qur'an, Hadith and sometimes your Tafsirs but you don't d likewise

BUT
You don't show any proof other than Repeating baseless Rhetorics which goes contrary to reason yet you expect me to believe them.

Like:
1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?
2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?
3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

Instead of responding to the questions, what you do is to repeat the standard islamic narrative without any corresponding evidence or proof from the Qur'an.

This is my issue with you Muslims

AbuTwins:
Allah is the creator of man!
And no leave fall from the tree except He is aware of it!

My question is that if Boko Haram are terrorists because they claim they are fighting for their God killing innocent civilians, Are Moses, Joshua, Saul, etc that did same in the Bible too terrorists?

This is a simple question for you!
Note that i agree Boko Haram are terrorists!

And I asked a basic question:
What do you think of the One who gave such a command: Do you consider Him a terrorist seeing that the reason for this extermination is not for material gain?

Since you include Moses and Joshua, do you concur that Mohammed is a Terrorist?


I also said:
What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children bin the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?


Thirdly:

What also do you think of a certain "prophet" who without instruction from his God slaughtered over 700 Jewish men who helped him to did the trench at the Battle of the Trench?
When will you call this terrorism too?

AntiChristian:
Accept the Amalek one first!
That was the same verse Netanyanhu quoted before killing civilians in the guise of Hamas!
Accept that your God proudly supports and encouraged terrorism!
Accept that Jesus was a prince of war in the Old testament (not peace).

Is it possible that God does Genocide?

What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children in the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?

FxMasterz:
True!

Human prefers darkness to light because their deeds are evil

This makes me remember the story of a very wicked man who died in Lagos..He was so wicked that even in his old age, while his children were fighting over his properties in his living room, they threw him downstairs from their 1 storey building. He broke his legs as a result and became sick with no child even pitying his condition. He was so wicked that even his children had no feelings for him. He was left and deserted by friends, relations, wife and children. Only his lawyer was his companion.

One day, as his life was coming to an end, he called his lawyer who rushed over to see him on his dying bed at home. Sensing that the wicked man would soon pass away, the lawyer asked him to pray to God for forgiveness of sins before he crosses over. The guy answered that he has never prayed before and does not know how to pray because he doesn't know which God to believe. The lawyer asked him to choose one God now and pray to that God. He explained the difference between the Christian God and that of Islam. The man thought for a while and decided he'll ask Allah for forgiveness. Few minutes later, he died. His fate was already sealed. Satan really got his soul after all the wickedness he had done.

Men themselves don't know that they love darkness. Wicked men always mistakenly choose darkness because their evil deeds must be judged. And by choosing darkness and ending with it, they come into a just judgement of God upon their evil ways.

It is amazing how a religion will be based purely on lies and deceptions. Even the local African Traditional Religion or the Eastern Religions are not filled with this much lies.

But
Because Islam was designed specifically against the Christian Faith, it has to first create legitimacy by climbing on the Ladder of the Religion of the Jews and Christians and then recreating a new fabricated Religion just to prevent salvation in Christ Jesus and destroy Christians of little knowledge.

Everything is looking like Mohammed himself was a fabricated identity based on one of the earliest adherents of the religion of Islam. Till now, there is no archeological discovery pointing to the existence of Mecca or Medina on or before the 7th century.

Qasim6:
Abraham pray to God in Genesis 17:18 for Ishmael to live before God and God promise Ishmael a great nation

Is God promise of a great nation going to be Idolatry pagan nation?

Where is the great nation God promise Ishmael in Genesis 17:20?

You make a great assumptions!
What is the proof that Mohammed is a descendant of Ishmael?

YHWH spoke to Abraham, is YHWH the God of Mohammed?

Who told Mohammed that he is a descendant of Abraham?

Qasim6:
Keep on wailing bro, you go wail tire!

The questions are simple and basic sir:

Why will Allah first allow you to spend time in Hell before removing you?

Why would Allah use Christians and Jews as your ransom rather than Atheists and Idolaters?

What is the Light of Islam when no Muslim can guarantee to enter paradise?

Qasim6:
Seems you are mistaken
This is our 5 basic doctrines
1 Profession of Faith (shahada). The belief that "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"
2 Prayer (salat)
3 Alms (zakat)
5 Fasting (sawm)
6 Pilgrimage (hajj)
Councils were not held, we did not take a vote for those doctrines

Over 300 years after Jesus left, they were still holding councils on the nature of Jesus, they even took a vote on the nature of Jesus; and they waited another 56 years to perfect your doctrine of trinity by adding the spooky ghost to the mix.

Stop throwing stones at people living in brick house while you are living in an open shelter.

Since the SHIA believe exactly this, are they TRUE Muslims?

The best you can do about Christianity and in particular Trinity is STRAWMAN arguments. Have I not shown you clearly that the Taoheed of Allah is NOT different from the Taoheed of Iblis!?
So, what are you dribbling yourself about?


Councils were not held in Islam yet you hold the doctrine of Taoheed! Did Allah ever once mentioned Taoheed in the Qur'an?

Councils did not hold in Islam yet Uthman unilaterally destroyed 6 of the 7 Qur'an of Allah for just one!

Councils did not hold in Islam, yet 200-300 years after Mohammed, you started compiling hadiths of your prophet!

Councils did not hold in Islam, yet you have heaps of scholars who's Tafsirs of the Qur'an in simple Arabic is depended on till today!

Councils were not held in Islam yet somehow you made the Qur'an of Mohammed and Abubakar and Uthman disappeared for the Qur'an from the RECITATION of Hafs (a confirmed Liar, Thief and Fraud of a man)!

I see, you truly live in a Grass-Thatched house