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Foreign Affairs › Re: ‘Historic Day’: Turkey’s Erdogan Agrees To Back Swedish NATO Bid by TenQ: 5:47pm On Jul 11, 2023
Stoplying:
So you didn't watch when Joe Biden said that USA lacks ammo to provide to Ukraine in order to make up for the fact that Ukraine is running out of ammo and that because of this, the USA will be providing cluster bombs to Ukraine?
You also must have missed the USA media report in which the pundits claimed that Russia will not be running out of missiles.

Does nafo pay you well enough or are you just ignorant on purpose?
Is Ukraine not militarised?
Before the war, Ukraine had old Soviet equipment. The number of tanks, artillery and helicopters were few.

Thanks to Russia, Ukraine now has quadrupled the size of their armed forces, their tanks had increased by over 600%, their artillery has increase by over 900%.

While Russia had to bring out T54 and T60 tanks, Ukrainians have brand new tanks and IFVs.

In 2-3 months time, Ukraine will have nothing less than 20-45 F16 Fighter aircraft.

With all these Tell me if Ukraine has not been militarised?

I guess you didn't hear when Prigozhin was complaining about not having enough artillery. Biden said what is an Excuse for Supplying cluster Bombs to Ukraine and of course, Ukraine didn't have cluster bombs
Foreign Affairs › Re: ‘Historic Day’: Turkey’s Erdogan Agrees To Back Swedish NATO Bid by TenQ: 1:39pm On Jul 11, 2023
PrinceMajestic:
NATO only showing the world how powerful and frightening the Russian Federation can be. Just imagine almost 30+ countries NATO and allies all gathering together under US control for security guarantees yet claim to be sovereign countries. This era made me know what sovereignty truly means with respect to Putin's Russian Federation and President Xi communist China. Sovereign and powerful countries do not need to gang up in order to defend themselves that's why the the great Russian Federation will always be more powerful and ahead of them. They ganging up because they scared of been devoured by the great Russian bear. They won't be saved when the time comes. God bless President Vladimir Putin, The Big Daddy of Planet Earth
Russia wanted to Demilitarise Ukraine and prevent them from joining NATO. Unfortunately, Russia has Demilitarised themselves and has increased the NATO membership while militarising Ukraine
Family › Re: Is This Family Right To Demand For The Whole Money? by TenQ: 1:10pm On Jul 11, 2023
poshestmina:
Except the Pastor will use the rest of the money to support other sick members or disburse it to the needy ones in the church.

The pastor is greedy .



It's the Pastor's entitlement for me!
He gave exact money for the surgery .Who do surgery no go chop or need money for miscellaneous .

Same way he raised the money,same way he should announce the total money gotten and how,who he's spending it on.
It is sometimes easy to judge before hearing all sides of the story.

1. The sick people's family should be grateful they asked of N345, 000 and they got exactly what they asked for.

2. Then other part of the equation :
a. What normally happens when in such donations the money is not complete : does the church subsidise?
If they do, that excess money should go to the Subsidy purse for the next set of families that will need help
b. It was a good thing the Pastor put the remainder into the purse of the church rather than his own pockets. This would have made him guilty. This means the pastor didn't act alone. The Board of Deacons must be in know of this action
Celebrities › Re: May Yul Edochie Begins Divorce Proceedings Against Her Husband, Yul Edochie by TenQ: 12:52pm On Jul 11, 2023
myyansh68:
Where was the God?, what was he doing when the stranger was preparing to destroy the happy home?

[/s][/b]

I always look up to you.
Now you disappointed me. Sometimes, your God is playing foul play in some ways.
If God intervenes in every intent of men, then, we shall only be robots and God wouldn't have the right to judge anyone.

God leaves everyone to do good or bad: its your choice to do as you will BUT a day of reckoning must come.

The Earth God has given every manto do as he wills!
Career › Re: Dr Simi Sola Of NHS Resigns After 20 Years by TenQ: 12:52pm On Jul 11, 2023
seunmsg:
I opened this thread purposely to pass a message to those who constantly barrage the country with insults and negativity and see no good in her.

A lot of us have similar stories to this lady. We got educated to the highest level almost for free but still have nothing positive to say about the country. Some of them will even boldly say Nigeria has done absolutely nothing for them.
..

All the best to Dr. Simi as she returns to serve her Father’s land.
I wish Dr Simi told us how Nigeria sponsored most of her education : my parents and myself solely were the sponsors of my own Education.
Till today, I and my wife have been the sole sponsor of our children's education.

Over to you!

How?
I want to learn!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 8:28am On Jul 11, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL ! Go learn some basic Arabic and come back to me. Is it not the same way you were arguing foolishly that Allah is god lah? When you're done with basic Arabic, let me know

cc: potential thief TenQ fxmasterz sirtee15
Too easy: a criminal lawyer caught in his own web of lies

Tell me that it is untrue that:

In Arabic grammar, the definite article "the" is expressed by adding either "Al-" or "As-" before a noun. The choice between "Al-" and "As-" depends on the sound following the definite article. The rule is known as "assimilation" and is based on the specific pronunciation of certain Arabic letters.

When the noun that follows the definite article begins with a letter known as a solar letter (a letter produced by the mouth's solar plexus), such as "s" (س), "sh" (ش), "sād" (ص), or "ṣād" (ص), the definite article "the" is pronounced and written as "As-". Hence, "As-Samari" is used because the noun "Samari" begins with the letter "s" (س).


LegalWolf, you bursted yourself!



Why is Allah called As-Samad rather than Al-Samad (even though they mean the same thing) ?


All the 99 names of allah are prefixed with Al-, As-, At-, Ar-, Az- or Ash-
is there ANY evidence that allah is not just al-Lah?

Go learn your arabic properly dear


Cc: SIRTee15
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 6:01am On Jul 11, 2023
LegalWolf:
It is even your audacity for me... Al Samari or Samariyyu (n)? Arabic, you do not know. Hebrew you do not have the slighted of ideas. Koine Greek that your bible was written, you do not know the basic letters. Tragic.

To my knowledge, the verse did not say 'Al-Samari', which would have implied that it is someone from Samar. So, I do not know the basis of your hallucination.

cc: sirtee15 fxmasterz potential thief tenq
Khai!

Liar of the tenth Order. Either go back to Ile-Kewu to learn. As-Samari means quoting you "someone from Samar" and it is actually someone from Samaria!


In Arabic, the definite article Al- or As- could be used meaning EXACTLY the same thing depending on the pronunciation of what follows it.

Tell me that it is untrue that:

In Arabic grammar, the definite article "the" is expressed by adding either "Al-" or "As-" before a noun. The choice between "Al-" and "As-" depends on the sound following the definite article. The rule is known as "assimilation" and is based on the specific pronunciation of certain Arabic letters.

When the noun that follows the definite article begins with a letter known as a solar letter (a letter produced by the mouth's solar plexus), such as "s" (س), "sh" (ش), "sād" (ص), or "ṣād" (ص), the definite article "the" is pronounced and written as "As-". Hence, "As-Samari" is used because the noun "Samari" begins with the letter "s" (س).


LegalWolf, you bursted yourself!


Cc: SIRTee15
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 5:45am On Jul 11, 2023
honesttalk21:
The region of Sychar/ Shechem in Samaria is the place where Abram (Abraham) built an altar, after God promised him the land of the Canaanites Genesis 12:6–cool

Sychar is also the region where Jacob's well is situated. Is this not the location of Jesus's discussion with the Samaritan woman as relayed in John 4:12?

Being the capital of the northern kingdom of Israel, the city of Samaria, now modern-day Sebastia, holds a significant place in the Bible.

Could this be the part of Israel the Samaritan came from?

Just saying

Check archaeological reports of the Israelites in the Iron age though there isn't always an exact agreement between theology and history.

P.S DON'T QUOTE ME
We should quote you sir and I wouldn't even use the Bible.

1. The pont is that Samaria never existed as of the time of Moses. If we are to believe in your story, the man Allah claimed made the golden Calf should be from Sychar or from Shechem and not from Samaria.

2. Using your arguments, can you be called a citizen of Eden or a citizen of Nigeria (after all, we all descended from Adam and Eve) ?
Can Uthman Dan Fodio or Oduduwa called a Nigerian? Can Muhammad be called a Saudi or a Meccan? We both know the reason whey they cannot be called such.

3. Don't you think that the Almighty Allah should know better than call a Man Samaritan when Samaria did not exist at all for the next 500 years after Moses?

4. The Samaritans have their own story and it deviates totally from that of the Qur'an. The Samaritans claim their origin from king Omri who reigned after defeating Tibni the son of Ginath in a civil war in the time of Asa the king of Judah?

5. This was a big mistake in the Qur'an by someone who heard the story from someone else. Your attempt of explaining the goof of the Qur'an contradict all existing sources from the Samaritans themselves, from the Jews their cousin, from the Assyrians who deported them into Slavery and to other Historians of the ancient times such as Josephus
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op):
SIRTee15:
I think u need some lectures on etymology here.

There was only one Torah kept by the Israelites prior to the kingdom split.
After the separation, the Samaritans believed their own Torah is the true one given to Moses thus they called themselves keepers of the torah, this mean shamerim in Hebrew which is derived the word shomer. Shomer is an Hebrew word meaning keeper or watcher.
Neither shamerim not shomer mean Samaritan.

Instead, the Hebrew word for Samaritan is shomronim which mean inhabitants of Samaria. This name originated after the Assyrian invasion of Israel, the people left living around Samaria were then called Samaritan...shomronim in Hebrew

Now when the Qur'an referred to al- samari in the golden calf story....was the man being called a shamerim or shomronim.
Al- samari is derived from the Arabic word Al- samariyyum meaning Samaritan. This shows the Koran referred to this man as 'someone from Samaria'- a samaritan
A watcher or keeper in Arabic will be called
Al- Hafiz or al- muraqib....not al-samari. So the theory LegalWolf is trying to push for has no backing in his own Qur'an.

If LegalWolf wants to argue that Samaritan denotes keeper of the torah rather than someone from Samaria, then he will have to argue with his own Koran who called the man who made the gold calf 'someone from Samaria'- al samari/Samaritan/shomronim.

What LegalWolf is doing here is very common among modern day Muslims. They use their extra koranic knowledge to change the meaning of words in the Koran.
They intentionally re write the Koran by distorting the words and phrase in the book to mean something entirely different from what is in the Koran.

I will advise anyone who wants to read the Koran in English to go for old translation which still retain the original meaning not all this modern translation which are simply works of forgery.
Islam is steamed in LIES, Suppression of Truths and Deception. They even do this against themselves to just to keep people worshipping Allah not to speak of other non Muslims.

I always go back ack to the Arabic to check the real words in the Qur'an. Non of their translations is trustworthy. How in the world is Mary's VULVA translated as SLEEVES?

If the Samaritans have a History about themselves not earlier than the Time of Omri, Muslims think they know the Samaritimorw than themselves?

LegalWolf in particular thinks that by insisting on a lie and repeating it will convert it suddenly into the truth!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 11:35pm On Jul 10, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hahahahaha future thief oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

cc: fxmasterz sirtee15 future thief TenQ
Like a Hyena caught in its own web of lies.
So Cowardly, he want s to continue telling lies without being interrogated!


Again :

When a Lawyer thinks that insisting on a Lie will automatically change it into the Truth.
You cannot answer simple basic questions
1. According to the Samaritans, where do they claim their origin from?
2. Define the term Samaritan?

Since you are prone to fabricating lies, respond with evidences from reputable sources!

SMH!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 9:20pm On Jul 10, 2023
LegalWolf:
You keep yarning dust and fail to understand the basic concept that Samaritanism is not exclusively connected to Samaria. If you cannot grasp a simple concept like this, how am I to help you?

I asked you a question the other day which you fled from like a coward: is an Israelite a native or citizen of the Kingdom of Israel or member of the 12 clans of Israel?

Cc: future thief TenQ sirtee15 Fxmasterz
When a Lawyer thinks that insisting on a Lie will automatically change it into the Truth.
You cannot answer simple basic questions
1. According to the Samaritans, where do they claim their origin from?
2. Define the term Samaritan?

Since you are prone to fabricating lies, respond with evidences from reputable sources!

SMH!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 7:54pm On Jul 10, 2023
Did I not tell you that LegalWolf is inoculated against the Truth!

The Truth doesn't mean anything to him.

That is the reason why he would dodge answering ANY questions.

John 8:44:
"You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Like their father exactly like servant!
Servant of " aLIES"
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 7:49pm On Jul 10, 2023
LegalWolf:
It’s even the audacity of the idi0t for me - to claim that the Torah did not exist at the time of Moses. No, it was Apostle Paul that brought Torah na

Cc: sirtee15 fxmasterz future thief TenQ
You had been taught. Tell me if the Torah was complete before the Isrealites reached Jordan.
Tell me that the Torah is not the FIVE BOOKS of Moses.

Allah and his prophet think the Torah was only One book and was revealed on Mount Sinai.

Thoughts only possessed by IGNORANT folks including LegalWolf
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 7:46pm On Jul 10, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL



Where did you get this insinuation from?



What’s your source for the underlined ?

Cc: future thief TenQ
Only a fool will not know that the Record of How this happened was written in the same Torah. How could the Torah had existed before the stories in it had not even happened?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 1:49pm On Jul 10, 2023
LegalWolf:
You’re the one yarning dust.



It’s preposterous to claim Torah existed before Moses. And what I’m pointing you to is that it is false to claim:
1. Torah did not exist at the time of Moses (only a potential thief like TenQ could make that statement) and

2. “Guardian of the Torah” does not exist at the time of Moses.




I should prove at what point Samaritans start referring to themselves as the keepers of Torah? Really?

Cc: future thief TenQ
Just a pont of correction for the Ignorant you.

The Torah is a compilation of Five Books namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy!
Genesis - speaks of the beginning of history of mankind from Adam to Abraham to Joseph and How the Israelites got to Egypt
Exodus - speaks about the beginning of Slavery of the Chidren of Israel in Egypt up to their exodus from Egypt
Leviticus- Is about the duties of the Levites
Numbers - is mainly about the census and genealogy of the Isrealites
Deuteronomy - is mainly about Priestley duties, Religious activities etc

All written by Moses through his scribes and Joshua his successor. Even the death of Moses was recorded in Deuteronomy 34:1-7


Each of those books were not the Torah as the Torah was the COMPLETE FIVE books of MOSES.

Dictionary definition :
Torah
/ˈtɔːrɑː,tɔːˈrɑː/
noun
(in Judaism) the law of God as revealed to Moses and recorded in the first five books of the Hebrew scriptures (the Pentateuch).


Dummies in the name of being Lawyers wouldn't know
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 5:15am On Jul 10, 2023
LegalWolf,
I am happy for one thing: that you have done enough study and research to know that with respect to the Samaritan, Allah goofed big time. This puts a question on who wrote the Qur'an : is it Allah or Mohammed?

But Muslims mantra remain :
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind


Good day bro!

The aim of this post is fully realised!
I pray that God Himself will touch your heart. A lie cannot become the truth by the reason of arguments.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 8:39pm On Jul 09, 2023
FxMasterz:
That's the point now. A Samaritan cannot be a keeper or observer of a book that has not been written. I already told him that. Now, he wants to know how I knew that the book hadn't been written at the time. I have made him to understand that Moses was just coming from the mountain where he received for the first time, the two tables of stone that contained the 10 commandments which formed the core of the Torah. I made him know that the tablets were even broken immediately Moses saw the golden calf attributed to the the Samaritan by his allah.

I have also told him that, even if the Torah had existed at the term, the observers or keepers of the Torah wouldn't be called Samaritans until Omri coined the word about 1,300 yrs later.

So, no matter his position, his Mohammed is in the mud for his lies.
I am happy for one thing: he has done enough study and research to know that with respect to the Samaritan, Allah goofed big time.

But Muslims mantra remain :
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind

Stay blessed bro!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 8:22pm On Jul 09, 2023
FxMasterz:
Don't mind legalwolf. I just want to use his own words to rope him in. I'm agreeing to all the lies and misinformation knowing that at the end of the day, even the lies would be counterproductive for his position.
The Torah consist of Five books, one of the books contain the account of the worship of the golden calf. How can LegalWolf's Samaritan be a custodian of a book which has not been written.
But LegalWolf will claim you agreed to his False Representation as fact. If you claim to agree to his lies and misinformation you must be careful to clarify your point. I know him better than he knows himself. A Fruad he is like his prophet.

One thing I happy about is that at this point except he is deluding himself, he know quite well that Allah goofed big time about the Samaritan. If Allah goofed, he cannot be God!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 7:59pm On Jul 09, 2023
FxMasterz:
You'll first discuss the term before the meaning.

The incident recorded by Mohammed was the first time Moses went to receive the tables of stone containing the 10 commandments. The Torah wasn't in existence then.

Moreso, the term Samaritan, even if it means keeper of the Torah, was never in use in Moses' time! The term was coined by Omri.
The place he quoted didn't even call the Samaritans keeper of the Torah.
Even then, the Torah didn't exist until the death of Moses.

Either way, the Samaritan building the golden calf is a LIE. As the Torah didn't exist at that time.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 10:19am On Jul 09, 2023
LegalWolf:
Uncle, what is the meaning of Samaritan. Short and simple - all these nonsense explanation is not important. You claimed I ran away from your mention, insinuating the superiority of your argument. Please frigging tell us the meaning of Samaritan, simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: how can something so simple be this choking for you and the future thief TenQ

cc: sirtee15
As if I didn't answer you the question before: Did you see the highlight in yellow?

TenQ:
Why? :Your deliberate doctoring of truths were through the roof yesterday. I had over 17 mentions from this conversation as of yesterday night.

A Samaritan is an individual who is a citizen or a native of Samaria.
EXACTLY LIKE
A Nigerian is an individual who is a citizen or a native of Nigeria, a country located in West Africa.


The Arabic word Samaritan is As-Samari(السامري) or Al-Samari(السامري): meaning or refering in Arabic to a person or belonging to the Samaritan community

I have answered your question, please respond to my questions


1. Is it true that the Samaritans by their tradition claim descent from the tribe Ephraim and Manasseh from the Northern ancient kingdom of Israel?

2. What does Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian of the first century say about the origin of the Samaritans?

3. According to the Samaritan sources, who founded the city of Samaria and gave it a name?

Your fraudulent nature is exposed.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 10:15am On Jul 09, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hahahahah future thief TenQ ooooooooooooo grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Your usual response to exposure of your fraudulent nature.

Allah doesn't know the history of the Samaritans!
Too bad the information had exposed him!

Again :


Very childishly stupid arguments.
And Allah couldn't say the name of the nameless country the so called As-Samari came from except say the name with Samaria which was 450-500 years before it's existence.
Abraham was from Ur in Mesopotamia, which is present-day southern Iraq. According to LegalWolf, Abraham is an Iraqi.


See how you stink!?

Is Abraham an Iraqi and is Mohammed a Saudi?





LegalWolf,
The Qur'an is proved to be mere words of men and not Allah:except Allah is Mohammed!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 10:00am On Jul 09, 2023
1. According to your attached post, did it say that the Samaritans ORIGINATE from the ancient Israelites?

a. Who is Israel and thus the Israelites? [b]
[/b]
b. Confirm that your attached evidence says:
Samaritans (/səˈmærɪtənz/; Samaritan Hebrew: ࠔࠠࠌࠝࠓࠩࠉࠌ‎, romanized: Šā̊merīm, transl. Guardians/Keepers [of the Torah]; Hebrew: שומרונים, romanized: Šōmrōnīm; Arabic: السامريون, romanized: as-Sāmiriyyūn) are an ethnoreligious group who originate from the ancient Israelites .[2] They are native to the Levant and adhere to Samaritanism, an Abrahamic and ethnic religion similar to Judaism, but differing in several important aspects.


LegalWolf:
Well, that’s the English meaning. What Samaritan means according to Hebrew is Observer of the Torah.
2. From the same webpage where you posted your fraudulent insinuation of who a Samaritan is, I have with kindness provided the continuation for you as attached

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans


Confirm that is says:

Samaritan tradition claims the group descends from the northern Israelite tribes who were not deported by the Neo-Assyrian Empire after the destruction of the Kingdom of Israel. They consider Samaritanism to be the true religion of the ancient Israelites and regard Judaism as a closely related but altered religion. Samaritans also regard Mount Gerizim (near both Nablus and biblical Shechem), and not the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, to be the holiest place on Earth.[3][4] They attribute the schism between Samaritanism and Judaism to have been caused by Eli creating an alternate shrine at Shiloh, in opposition to Mount Gerizim.



Is the highlighted in yellow false?



No matter how you turn and twist, it is proven that either the man Mohammed composed the Qur'an OR Allah's knowledge is as low as that of a 7th century uneducated arabian man

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 8:43am On Jul 09, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL - you over estimate yourself



This again is preposterous and stems for your lack of knowledge. Was the prophet (pbuh) referring to Samaritan as a people or the origin of their name? Let me bring an example close home. It is agreed that the name Yoruba is an exonym, given to southwestern folks by the Hausawa. Does that imply that the Yoruba's do not exist as a group before the Hausa gave that name?



What is the meaning of the term of the word Samaritan. That is the friggin question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



This typically ends the argument and resolves in it in our favour



Uncle, all these your shalaye is unnecessary. Tell us the meaning of the word Samaritan and that saves us this useless bullshit explanation



Please refer to the above.

And one thing comes to mind - it is just like saying that the early Israelites are 'people who are a native or citizen of the Kingdom of Israel' like the future thief TenQ would want us to have it. Is that a correct proposition to make, Mr FxMasterz

cc: future thief TenQ FxMaster sirtee15
Very childishly stupid arguments.
And Allah couldn't say the name of the nameless country the so called As-Samari came from except say the name with Samaria which was 450-500 years before it's existence.
Abraham was from Ur in Mesopotamia, which is present-day southern Iraq. According to LegalWolf, Abraham is an Iraqi.


See how you stink!?

Is Abraham an Iraqi and is Mohammed a Saudi?





LegalWolf,
The Qur'an is proved to be mere words of men and not Allah:except Allah is Mohammed!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 5:29pm On Jul 08, 2023
LegalWolf:
Just stfu and reference what YOU posted. Future Thief TenQ, you were the one who made a post indicating the meaning of Samaritans. And I
Underlined it. So bring it to the table. All these runaway tactics cannot help you.

Cc: future thief TenQ sirtee15 fxmasterz
Tears up more please!
The Truth is at your table!

Sorry!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 5:07pm On Jul 08, 2023
Dear LegalWolf,
I have closed your case on this thread EXCEPT you answer my three Questions.


Have a nice weekend!


The Truth is Bitter: swallow it and stay with it. Stop your self deception.


1. Allah made a mistake in the Qur'an as he misapplied the law of Retribution according to Moses and arrived at something below common sense.
2. Allah goofed big time on the Samaritan who purportedly made the golden calf.
a. The Samaritans agree it was Aaron who made the golden calf
b. The Samaritans as a people didn't even exist for another 400 to 500 years after Moses.
c. The Samaritans trace their origin and genealogy to the creation of Samaria by king Omri and they are remnants of the descendants of the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim who were deported by the Assyrians, under the rule of King Tiglath-Pileser III and later King Shalmaneser V, conducted military campaigns against the Kingdom of Israel in the years leading up to and including 722 BCE.



So, LegalWolf, please deal with these. No historical source even remotely agree with you or Allah.

According to your logic, we are all from Jannah through Adam and Eve. Therefore, LegalWolf is a "Jannahrite"!
Can you see how stupid this sounds?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 1:33pm On Jul 08, 2023
FxMasterz:
As I said before bro. He knows the truth but loves the lies. He has refused to respond to my last mention. He knows the truth already. Someday, he may embrace the truth he is currently rejecting.

The next thing I'll like to hammer out with him is the Mary sister of Aaron problem. I want him to either put Moses and Aaron under Roman rule in Jerusalem where Pilate was governor or put Jesus in Egypt with Moses as the Israelites filed out of Egypt. Since Mary is the sister of Aaron, these two problems must be solved. Please make a thread about this if possible.
Before you challenge him about the mix-up between Mary and Mariam, check out the arguments of the Muslim apologists on it. Their argument is what Muslims take as valid truths even if they are complete Lies and Fabrications

He would dispute with you while providing no source to back himself up.
He would answer no questions while attempting to question responses you give to him

Such a dishonest individual who thinks that the truth is known by technicalities. This is why you don't give him a rope with which to wrap technicalities on you: right now, he'll be saying that you admitted that Samaritans have their history dating back to Moses and Aaron: case dismissed! Lol! Next time, clarify your concession carefully. He is this deceptive and dishonest

See how he changed the subject from Allah misapplying the Moses law of Retribution to the Samaritan!
He thinks this is wisdom!
Celebrities › Re: Mercy Aigbe's Husband Hails Her For Joining Him In The 2023 Hajj (Video) by TenQ: 11:40am On Jul 08, 2023
Omobalo67:
Be deceiving yourself. May Allaah guide you to the right path.

Nothing beats Islam in aspects of what benefits you in both worlds.

اللهم ثبتها وهدينا جميعا يارب العالمين
Are you annoyed with me because I expose many hidden things in Islam?
Are there UNTRUE things I have said about Islam?

If you are sincere with your self, everything I've written is ACCORDING to YOUR is lslamic SOURCES.

My only input there is to ask you Questions.

I was almost converted to Islam in my 200 Levels, but asking questions saved me.

I don't want you to enter the fire of hell as there is no coming out of it o!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 11:29am On Jul 08, 2023
LegalWolf,
This is just to remind you: we've been here before!



Details and References

One of the biggest errors in the narration of the Qur'an is the apparent lack of recourse to time, sequence and history of real events. One example is the mix-up of Mariam the Sister of Aaron and Mary the mother of Jesus . The difference in time between the two is almost 2000 years. However, the Qur'an mixes their personalities up in Qur'an 66:12 and Quran 3:35-37. This mistake is for another day's discussion.

Today, we will like to discuss the Samaritans , their place in history and Allah.

Crash Course: Who are the Samaritans?

1. The Samaritans split from Israel after the reign of Solomon king of Israel. The 10 tribes of Israel rebelled against Rehoboam son of Solomon because he wouldn't listen to them.

2.The Samaritans trace their origins back to the ancient Israelite tribes who inhabited the region of Samaria in the 8th century BCE, following the split of the Kingdom of Israel into the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah

3. The ten tribes of Israel were exiled by the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE, and their fate thereafter is largely unknown. The Samaritans claim descent from the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, who were among the ten tribes exiled by the Assyrians.

4. Over time, because the only temple was in Jerusalem and it was the only place where animal sacrifice was allowed, the Samaritans developed their own religious traditions and practices which though an offshoot of Judaism, it differed from those of the Jews in significant ways.


Enter Mohammed, the Qur'an and Allah:
The Qur’an says that the calf worshipped by the Israelites at mount Horeb after their escape from Egypt was molded by a Samaritan.

Qur'an 20:85-86, 95
85. (Allah) said: “Verily! We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri (the Samaritan) has led them astray.”
86. Then Moses went back unto his folk, angry and sad. He said: O my people! Hath not your Lord promised you a fair promise? Did the time appointed then appear too long for you, or did ye wish that wrath from your Lord should come upon you, that ye broke tryst with me?
87. They said: "We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the As-Samiri (the Samaritan) suggested.
88. "Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses, but (Moses) has forgotten!"
95. (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri (Samaritan)?"


The problem is that
1. The Samaritans did NOT exist till about 1500 years after Moses. The Samaritans came well after Solomon the king of Israel.

2. Modern Muslims recognised this problem , therefore they started mistranslating ٱلسَّامِرِىُّ (the Samaritan) as As-Samiri in English so that the Arabic meaning will remain hidden.

3a. Therefore, I first went to ChatGPT to ask the questions:
What do the Arabs call
1. Samaritan
2. A person from Samaria

The answer is presented in the attachment


b. I then went to Google translate to ask the question:
What is Samaritan in Arabic ?
The answer is also presented in the attachment

c. I then looked at Islamic commentary of Qur'an 20:85 by Al-Jalalayn
Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
But those he supposed [to be following him] had remained behind, for He, exalted be He, said, ‘Indeed We tried your people after you, that is, after your departure from them, and the Samaritan led them astray’, so they took to worshipping the [golden] calf.


d. Direct Quote From Muslim English Translation of Qur'an 20:85
DR. GHALI
Said He, “Yet surely We have already tempted your people even after you; (i.e., after your departure from them) and As- Samiriyy (The Samaritan) has led them into error.”


Now that I have preemptively bursted the Islamic Taqqiya (deception) at least from four different sources, I can now ask them these simple questions

Questions:
1. Could an all-knowing God make such a silly historical mistake? 
2. Let's even assume the modern Islamic Taqqiya is accepted:
Can any Muslim tell us who the As-Samiri are in history?



As usual, I call my Nairaland friends for this exciting discussion
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op): 11:24am On Jul 08, 2023
By the way, before you digressed from the topic, your questions are still waiting for you untouched.




The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A BAD copy Of the Law Of Moses)?

In the Bible at the time of Moses when the Law of Retribution was in Effect, the Law of an Eye for an Eye was applied as a means of enacting equity in justice for offences.
It is interesting to note that Jesus CANCELLED this Law of Retribution of Moses in Mat 5:38-42:

But as we a know, Mohammed COPIED everything that fancies him from the Jews, Christians, Folklores etc.

He made the mistake of Copying the Law of Retribution and Attributed it to Allah as Usual by putting it in the Qur'an.


Unfortunately, Mohammed or Allah misapplied it in a TERRIBLE format.

Qur'an 2:178
"O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered -
the free for the free,
the slave for the slave, and
the female for the female.

But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment."


Let us apply these laws.
1. If I as a Free Muslim man killed the slave of Lukuluku69 or LegalWolf or AntiChristian, then Allah require that I should present my slave for execution.

2. If I as a Free Muslim man killed the Female slave of Vanessa7 or iamrealdeji or drlateef, then Allah require that I should present my Female slave for execution.

3. If I, as a Free Muslim man, killed another Free Muslim, then, I am liable to be killed also (this is fairly representative of the Law of Moses in Retribution)

However, According to Tafsir Ibn Kathir Qur'an 2:178-179
He said that, all Muslim scholars agree that
The Muslim is not killed for the disbeliever (whom he kills).)



Questions :
1. What is the Equity if my innocent slave would be killed because I killed the slave of my neighbour?
2. Why is it that as a Muslim I can get away with murder if the person I killed is NOT a Muslim?
3. Why is equity in gender of execution important to Allah?
4. What is the Wisdom with respect to murder in Allah's Law of Retribution






REFERENCES

Here below is the Law of Retribution in the Law of Moses
Exo 21:20-29:
"And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then you shall give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake. If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit. But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it has been testified to his owner, and he has not kept him in, but that he has killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death."


Sorry that the passage is long but I have to post it.

This Law of Retribution was Abolished by Jesus

Mat 5:38-42:
"You have heard that it has been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say to you, That you resist not evil: but whoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue you at the law, and take away your coat, let him have your cloak also. And whoever shall compel you to go a mile, go with him two. Give to him that asks you, and from him that would borrow of you turn not you away."



Tafsir Ibn Kathir Qur'an 2:178-179
The reason behind this statement is that (the Jewish tribe of) Banu An-Nadir invaded Qurayzah (another Jewish tribe) during the time of Jahiliyyah (before Islam) and defeated them. Hence, (they made it a law that)
1. when a person from Nadir kills a person from Quraizah, he is not killed in retaliation, but only pays a hundred Wasq of dates.
2. However, when a person from Quraizah kills a Nadir man, he would be killed for him.
3. If Nadir wanted (to forfeit the execution of the murderer and instead require him) to pay a ransom, the Quraizah man pays two hundred Wasq of dates ﴿double the amount Nadir pays in Diyah (blood money)
﴾. So Allah commanded that justice be observed regarding the penal code, and that the path of the misguided and mischievous persons be avoided, who in disbelief and transgression, defy and alter what Allah has commanded them.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by TenQ(op):
LegalWolf:
Hahahahaha potential thief oooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣…. You referenced the meaning of Samaritan yesterday that I underlined. Can you remember?

Cc: Fxmasterz sirtee15 potential thief TenQ
I even thought you are trying hard to repent.

Since you are not, I'll leave you with this


One good thing is that you LegalWolf have read a lot from the history of the Samaritans by the Samaritans to see that even according to the history of the Samaritans by themselves, Allah and Mohammed goofed big time.

You have seen beyond all reasonable doubt that the author of the Quran cannot be divine but by a fallible human being like you and me. Simply because an Almighty must know that the Samaritans NEVER existed at the time of Moses. The Samaritans claimed descent from the tribe of Manasseh and Ephraim both from Joseph at the time of Omri the first king (which he thankfully admitted).
Just as you LegalWolf is not from the garden of Eden in paradise,
Uthman Dan Fodio cannot be called a Nigerian
Oduduwa cannot be called a Nigerian
Ogunde, Baba Salam and Dur Ladipo would never have been said to be in Nollywood!

Your conscience disturbs you right now! Allah made a goof that has to be repaired with NEW Lies!



Qur'an 20:85-86, 95
85. (Allah) said: “Verily! We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri (the Samaritan) has led them astray.”
86. Then Moses went back unto his folk, angry and sad. He said: O my people! Hath not your Lord promised you a fair promise? Did the time appointed then appear too long for you, or did ye wish that wrath from your Lord should come upon you, that ye broke tryst with me?
87. They said: "We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the As-Samiri (the Samaritan) suggested.
88. "Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses, but (Moses) has forgotten!"
95. (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri (Samaritan)?"







Whenever you decide or choose to answer my three questions, call me ANY day, I'll come out to spank you.



So that you would not feign ignorance, I post again the three questions.



1. Is it true that the Samaritans by their tradition claim descent from the tribe Ephraim and Manasseh from the Northern ancient kingdom of Israel?

2. What does Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian of the first century say about the origin of the Samaritans?

3. According to the Samaritan sources, who founded the city of Samaria and gave it a name?



Cheers.
Till I give you another teaser from the depth of Islam.
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Many do not know the influence of ABC Orjiakor, the billionaire oil tycoon (and Father in law) in opening doors for the intelligent Tony Elumelu.

Life is all about grace



If you are not given grace by God, you can have first class degree in Oil and Banking and you will still remain a cobbler
Celebrities › Re: Mercy Aigbe's Husband Hails Her For Joining Him In The 2023 Hajj (Video) by TenQ: 11:05am On Jul 08, 2023
damilola4162:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpSE2529EX0



Source: https://newspremises.com.ng/islam-will-never-let-you-down-filmmaker-kazim-adeoti-tells-wife-mercy-aigbe-as-they-complete-their-2023-hajj-rites-video/
Evangelism by marriage : and some people are saying why is TenQ writing so much about Islam.

If she knew one tenth of what I know, she wouldn't touch Islam with a 50 feet pole

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