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Maynman:Should the standard of morality be universal or subjective to every society? |
LegalWolf:The thing you and your prophet and Allah pride themselves in is what the God of Moses called an ABOMINATION! Deu 24:1-4: "When a man has taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he has found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorce, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorce, and gives it in her hand, and sends her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and you shall not cause the land to sin, which the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance." How the hadiths below is not nauseating to you can only be the wonder of satan. Let me repost as a reminder of the topic at hand Hadith that show that the Woman MUST have Orgasm for the Second Husband before returning to her First Husband: Sunan an-Nasa'i 3414 It was narrated from Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet said, concerning a man who had a wife and he divorced her, then she married another man who divorced her before consummating the marriage with her, and (it was asked) whether she could go back to her first husband: "No, not until she tastes his sweetness." Marriage. كتاب النكاح28 Book 28, Hadith 18: Book 28, Hadith 1112 Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from al-Qasim ibn Muhammad that A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said when asked whether it was permissible for a man to marry again a wife he had divorced irrevocably if she had married another man who divorced her before consummating the marriage, "Not until she has tasted the sweetness of intercourse." Sunan an-Nasa'i 3407 It was narrated that 'Aishah said: "The Messenger of Allah was asked about a man who divorced his wife, and she married another man who had a closed meeting with her then divorced her, before having intercourse with her. Is it permissible for her to remarry the first husband? The Messenger of Allah said: 'No, not until the second one tastes her sweetness and she tastes his sweetness.'" |
LegalWolf:The Questions is too simple! Ask the Samaritans themselves the Questions Why avoid it to speak jargons and irrelevances 1. Who is As-Samari according to the Quran in its interpretation into English ? 2. Is it true that the Samaritans by their tradition claim descent from the tribe Ephraim and Manasseh from the Northern ancient kingdom of Israel? 3. What does Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian of the first century say about the origin of the Samaritans? 4. According to the Samaritan sources, who founded the city of Samaria and gave it a name? 5. Is it true or u true that A Samaritan is an individual who is a citizen or a native of Samaria? |
LegalWolf:Does these questions below have answers? Questions : 1. Why is it that Mohammed is the only prophet above the laws of his God? ALL Muslims are to Obey Allah, Mohammed is a Man and also a Muslim. Special privileges are given to him Yet we see him breaking other rules of Allah! 2a. Why is the Islamic law of Divorce and Remarriage hostile to a dutiful and loving Muslim Wife who was rashly divorced by her husband? In Islam, a woman cannot divorce her husband unilaterally but a man can. The Law of divorce in Islam forces a divorced faithful woman who was rashly divorced by her husband to have her orgasm for another man before she can be allowed to return home. Is this logical and sane? b. Why must it be the wife that must pay for the stupidity of her husband by marrying a husband she doesn't want so that she can return to her husband and children? Why shouldn't the rash husband pay for the consequence of his stupidly rash divorce of his wife? 3. What is the logic and common sense in this law of Divorce and Reconciliation? If Allah gave this law of Divorce and Reconciliation, what is the common sense or objective of the Law? These are the simple questions |
LegalWolf:The Truth is Bitter: swallow it and stay with it. Stop your self deception. 1. Allah made a mistake in the Qur'an as he misapplied the law of Retribution according to Moses and arrived at something below common sense. 2. Allah goofed big time on the Samaritan who purportedly made the golden calf. a. The Samaritans agree it was Aaron who made the golden calf b. The Samaritans as a people didn't even exist for another 400 to 500 years after Moses. c. The Samaritans trace their origin and genealogy to the creation of Samaria by king Omri and they are remnants of the descendants of the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim who were deported by the Assyrians, under the rule of King Tiglath-Pileser III and later King Shalmaneser V, conducted military campaigns against the Kingdom of Israel in the years leading up to and including 722 BCE. |
LegalWolf:The Questions is too simple! Ask the Samaritans themselves the Questions Why avoid it to speak jargons and irrelevances 1. Who is As-Samari according to the Quran in its interpretation into English ? 2. Is it true that the Samaritans by their tradition claim descent from the tribe Ephraim and Manasseh from the Northern ancient kingdom of Israel? 3. What does Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian of the first century say about the origin of the Samaritans? 4. According to the Samaritan sources, who founded the city of Samaria and gave it a name? 5. Is it true or u true that A Samaritan is an individual who is a citizen or a native of Samaria? . The Truth is Bitter: swallow it and stay with it. Stop your self deception. 1. Allah made a mistake in the Qur'an as he misapplied the law of Retribution according to Moses and arrived at something below common sense. 2. Allah goofed big time on the Samaritan who purportedly made the golden calf. a. The Samaritans agree it was Aaron who made the golden calf b. The Samaritans as a people didn't even exist for another 400 to 500 years after Moses. c. The Samaritans trace their origin and genealogy to the creation of Samaria by king Omri and they are remnants of the descendants of the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim who were deported by the Assyrians, under the rule of King Tiglath-Pileser III and later King Shalmaneser V, conducted military campaigns against the Kingdom of Israel in the years leading up to and including 722 BCE. |
Maynman:It is still saying that morality as defined by humans will always be subjective even though morality requires absolute standard of wrong or right |
Maynman:You say Putin and Russian army are doing their job: but is their action moral? To the Ukrainians is Putin Moral or Immoral? By now, you will see that morality will always be subjective with respect to us humans. Unfortunately, morality should be absolute! What is wrong is wrong irrespective of who is concerned or the planet you take it to |
Maynman:An adult human has two testes that produces spermatozoa and zero ovary : biology says this is a MAN Some humans by Gender Reassignment says this is a WOMAN or even REPTILIAN! Is Bob Risky a man or a woman? He is doing EVERYTHING to present himself as a Woman: against BIOLOGY! |
Maynman:Says you. Why do you think humans universally don't go about stark naked? They may be as skimpy dressed as possible but never naked like animals: Why? Why do you think people have conscience and why do you think that people can kill their conscience? Morality is ingrained in every human as their conscience. The society could then make or break this conscience to adopt a new normal. |
Maynman:Let's assume (for the sake of arguments) that there is a Highest SOURCE. But Humans can also have other Sources different from this that they consider as their own highest source. Eg. Atheists highest source is themselves! Therefore if EVERYONE takes their Laws from the highest source alone, there would be no problem. But as soon as we adopt other sources apart from this highest source, we arrive at the problem you just showed |
Maynman:Since there would be arguments on this issue, then it simply probes that human morality on this is subjective. |
Maynman:You tell me? We challenge every law in existence. This is the behaviour of humans. We even challenge the law of biology which is supposed to be fixed. Thus Bob Risky can show us his brand new bumbum and be proud about it |
Hi Maynman:Of course my opinion will always be subjective to me and could be different from your own opinion. The Truth is that morality should be absolute irrespective of where it is applied on the earth. But we know that it isn't because between us humans we cannot absolutely agree on what is moral and what is not Does Putin or the Russian army think they are acting immorally by invading Ukraine? |
Maynman:As long as each society can determine for themselves what they consider moral and it can be at variance with what another community or persons subscribe to, the law of morality remains subjective |
Maynman:Not really. I am only saying that humans cannot objectively determine a universal standard of morality because as humans, they can change or modify such laws according to agreements t between some of them |
Maynman:Note: Any law of morality that is subject to personal definition is SUBJECTIVE! |
Maynman:You may challenge the VISA law if you want. People all over challenge every existing law |
Maynman:If we all agree in Nigeria to ban Gay marriage and in Germany they allow Gay marriage :the question is with respect to humans, is Gay law on Marriage Objective or Subjective? |
excanny:Did you not mention the word moral and then give examples in brakkets? |
Maynman:There is a higher Source to which I cannot negotiate with that said that! I have to comply even if it doesn't agree with what favours me |
Maynman:No, I am not proving your point. I am actually asserting that: Morality means NOTHING if it is subjective! Note: Any law of morality that is subject to personal definition is SUBJECTIVE! Any law of morality that is NOT subject to personal definition is OBJECTIVE! Examples: 1. Having the required VISA to travel to another country is an objective Law 2. Driving on the right side of the road in NIGERIA is an objective Law. 3. Dressing g to work in Suit is a SUBJECTIVE Law |
Maynman:I said: Morality means NOTHING if it is subjective! Is it moral to do gender assignment for your children? Is it moral to have an open marriage? Is it moral to invade another country that you believe may be friendly towards your enemies? Is it moral to have sex with animals? Is it moral to dress sparingly? If morality can change according to how we feel and our individual disposition, then it becomes meaningless. Is it moral to have abortions? Even the government for the sake of sanity make the law objective and not subjective. Eg. We drive on the right side of the road even if you are a professor of Traffic Engineering who discovered that driving on the left is actually better. Even the so-called golden rule: Why should we obey it? Does this law always favour me!? |
excanny:You did sir! excanny: |
Maynman:I was simply asking the OP questions about his source of morality excanny:Morality means NOTHING if it is subjective! |
AbuTwins:The questions you asked have answers if you want! Does these questions below have answers? Questions : 1. Why is it that Mohammed is the only prophet above the laws of his God? ALL Muslims are to Obey Allah, Mohammed is a Man and also a Muslim. Special privileges are given to him Yet we see him breaking other rules of Allah! 2a. Why is the Islamic law of Divorce and Remarriage hostile to a dutiful and loving Muslim Wife who was rashly divorced by her husband? In Islam, a woman cannot divorce her husband unilaterally but a man can. The Law of divorce in Islam forces a divorced faithful woman who was rashly divorced by her husband to have her orgasm for another man before she can be allowed to return home. Is this logical and sane? b. Why must it be the wife that must pay for the stupidity of her husband by marrying a husband she doesn't want so that she can return to her husband and children? Why shouldn't the rash husband pay for the consequence of his stupidly rash divorce of his wife? 3. What is the logic and common sense in this law of Divorce and Reconciliation? If Allah gave this law of Divorce and Reconciliation, what is the common sense or objective of the Law? These are the simple questions |
SIRTee15:LegalWolf doesn't have an answer but he is ready to brey endlessly like a donkey if you allow it. He wouldn't define who a Samaritan is with sources of his information. He wouldn't even quote the Samaritans themselves of their own history. You see what I mean by: Muslims live by the mantra : Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind! |
excanny:What is your source of morality? Why should your children trust your judgment on morality? |
SIRTee15:LegalWolf think that by insisting on a Falsehood and Repeating it a million times, the Falsehood would just automatically become TRUTH! SMH! |
tonye33:Since you kept such a secret about yourself from her, you have no right to challenge her about her secret. You have three boys, take care of them and ask no further questions. Your wickedness has been fully repaid! Go and sin no more! |
honesttalk21:1. If this is indeed true, unfortunately, it makes Allah and Mohammed fraudulent. Allah attests to the Torah in the Qur'an and Mohammed swears by the Torah! It seems as if honesttalk21 is more knowledgeable that both Allah and his Apostle Mohammed! 2. Should you not just give the evidence to this your claim? What do you think if I say: The Qur'an has been declared false according to the research publications by Joseph Abrahams and Paul Adams in the year 2021 Should this statement be accepted without question? 3. It doesn't dawn on you that if Thomas L. Thompson and John Van Seters are correct, Allah and his Messenger Mohammed are dealt wrong and are repeating Falsehood? If Abraham doesn't exist, where did Allah and his messangwr get the same Abraham the father of Ishmael and Ishaq? 4. Don't forget that you Muslims used to claim the work on embryology by Dr Keith Moore (Dr. Moore is notable as the only embryologist directly quoted by Islamic sources in an attempt to prove embryology as described in the Qur'an is scientifically correct.) Why are there no other notable embryologist with this fraudulent conclusion? |
honesttalk21:I just thought to help you out with a little information as attachmemts to answer just two questions so that you can confirm if there is variation with history. Unfortunately, variations exist between the claims of Allah and History 1. Was Jesus crucified on the cross? 2. Did Alexander reach the end of thr world where the sun set in murky waters? 3. Did the Samaritans existed at the time of Moses?
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