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Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 9:16am On Feb 06, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Open a thread? What for? Every rational mind no the your Jesus did not answer the TWO questions that was posed Viz: a) are you the one b) should we expect another?

As for you asinine question that you have put on a repeat, how do you want me to answer a Dotar.d who genuinely believe that the command "Be! can be refused in the Creation?

If you like open a zillion thread na your cup of Kunu be that, sincere seekers after the Truth are leaving you man-worship faith and are entering Islam in numbers.

I know you can't see it because it is not your eyes that are blind nor your ears that are deaf but in your heart is a disease and by Allah, it will continue to increase.

So, it is moving on time....
If you had answered my questions, you wouldn't be in the confused state of mind you are in.

You are doing everything to AVOID facing the TRUTH.

Let me burst your bubbles again.

1. If God instructs the sun to withhold it's light from the earth for the next 24Hours, does this fall under the canopy of KUFAYAKUN?
Or Kufayakun is only for Creation!?

2. Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 9:10am On Feb 06, 2023
LegalWolf:
Two points to note:

1. There’s no Jubril in any of the verses you quoted. I think we are one on this point. Of course, your Google translate could always be of help.
REALLY!?

The Clear Quran, Dr. Mustafa Khattab
And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her through Our angel, ˹Gabriel,˺ making her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Mohsin Khan:
And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Ruh [i.e. Jibrael (Gabriel)], and she testified to the truth of the Words of her Lord [i.e. believed in the Words of Allah: "Be!" and he was; that is 'Iesa (Jesus) ­ son of Maryam (Mary); as a Messenger of Allah], and (also believed in) His Scriptures, and she was of the Qanitin (i.e. obedient to Allah).



No Jubril indeed!
LOL!!


LegalWolf:
2. On the translation, first off, our clerics are NOT infallible. Secondly, none of them gave farjah the meaning you gave it. You can’t cherry-pick.

In any event, the texts of the Quran is clear. Very very clear.

I think the above answers your question
So , you agree that I was only QUOTING your fallible scholars! LOL!

Didn't you ask me to provide evidence ?

But do you think these translators are Liars?
(Because you accused me of stating exactly their conclusion)


LegalWolf:
Hypothetically, what stops Allah - the creator of Mariam - from blowing a Spirit into her from anywhere he wants to?

If, again hypothetically, a gynaecologist is to open up your mother’s skirt and perform operation in her vagina area, I doubt you’ll have a problem. Much more yhwh (of course, hypothetically)?
Are you saying that Allah HIMSELF inflated Mary with baby Isa by putting his mouth on her Farjah and blowing hard into it?

Don't you think that Allah should have sent someone else to do this DIRTY job?
(I guess that was why your translators opted to give the dirty job to Jubril to do : but you think otherwise)
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 8:57am On Feb 06, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
May JEHOVAH be praised!

This is what i've been telling you, if with all this argument you can't present a group with which you agree on terms and conditions of worship just as Jesus foretold then you're simply deceiving yourself. Luke 11:23

This is what your Bro typed about those putting faith in Christ Jesus:

So preach to him first, convince him that Jesus is Lord before coming to argue with God's united family over what we believe as One! John 17:2 wink
A satanic group that twists the words of Christ have no iota of respect from me. Your self importance as a group is like a mad man admiring his dirty tatared clothes and calling it bespoke designer.

Dou you think a mad man know that he is mad and others are sane ? Such is your case and the case of your group
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 8:53am On Feb 06, 2023
oteneaaron:
Thanks bro.

That is what religious indoctrination does to the mind.

Only indepent critical thinking will help him and his cohorts.
I perfectly agree with you.
Have a beautifully productive day in Jesus name
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 7:03am On Feb 06, 2023
oteneaaron:
Wow

This thread has come a long way.

Sagenaija and TenQ, I would like to congratulate both of you for keeping to the conversation, even in the face of consistent beating around the bush and name-calling by the opposing parties.

It quite interesting how many of the core doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses fall short when explored through the lens of contextual examination.

Noun

context

1. The surroundings, circumstances, environment, background or settings that determine, specify, or clarify the meaning of an event or other occurrence.

2. (linguistics) The text in which a word or passage appears and which helps ascertain its meaning.

3. (archaeology) The surroundings and environment in which an artifact is found and which may provide important clues about the artifact's function and/or cultural meaning.

4. (mycology) The trama or flesh of a mushroom.

5. (logic) For a formula: a finite set of variables, which set contains all the free variables in the given formula
Thanks bro!
It is true that satan blinds his own so that even though they read, their hearts remain seared as with hot iron.

As we share the truth of God's word, we pray for grace also for them that they will receive freedom from their handcuffs!
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 5:14am On Feb 06, 2023
LegalWolf:
You know when you’re truthful (which is very rare), I’ll commend you. It’s not every time I’ll call you a potential thief. Thumbs up for the partial truth 👍



Irrelevant



Strictly speaking, from the text of the Quran, we have no evidence that Jubril blew any spirit. It is your OWN wishful imagination, stemming from your hallucination, that you derived that. Isn’t it?

So why should I engage you in your hallucination?

PS: I’ve actually forgotten my Sira on this subject, so you can do well to recommend any secondary sources
Qur'an 66:12
And Mary, Imran's daughter, who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our Spirit, and she confirmed the Words of her Lord and His Books, and became one of the obedient.

Qur'an 66:12
And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).


Allah said: (Qur'an 66:12)
He blew into Mary's Farjah of his spirit


You said:
It is your OWN wishful imagination, stemming from your hallucination, that you derived that. Isn’t it?
Here, I show you AS EVIDENCE what your Muslim Clerics said in their translation of the Qur'an

Allah explained How he blew into Mary's Farjah (Qur'an 91:12)
Again:
This is exactly how some of your Muslim translators printed the verse Qur'an 91:12!

Are they LYING?

The Clear Quran, Dr. Mustafa Khattab
And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her through Our angel, ˹Gabriel,˺ making her and her son a sign for all peoples.


Sahih International:
And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient.


Mohsin Khan:
And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Ruh [i.e. Jibrael (Gabriel)], and she testified to the truth of the Words of her Lord [i.e. believed in the Words of Allah: "Be!" and he was; that is 'Iesa (Jesus) ­ son of Maryam (Mary); as a Messenger of Allah], and (also believed in) His Scriptures, and she was of the Qanitin (i.e. obedient to Allah).


Are you saying that some of your translators of your Islamic manuscripts are Liars!?

Let's assume that you want to play the Dumb game by saying that it wasn't Jubril that blew the spirit into the Vagina of Mary, was it Allah?
If Allah

Was it Allah himself that opened up the skirt of Mary to blow into her Farjah (Vagina)?
Politics › Re: 5,060 APC Members Defect To PDP In Bauchi by TenQ: 10:28am On Feb 05, 2023
My dear ,
You've been a staunch believer and supporter of Buhari, has you stance changed or it is Sai Baba all the way?

Thank you sir.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 10:23am On Feb 05, 2023
Lukuluku69:
So after the Baptismal, the voice from heaven, the Dove that descends, the Lamb of God, the Baptist still had his doubts about your Lord and saviour so much so he had to send his crew to still go and ask " are you the one or should we expect another"?

So, of what importance was the show put up by the Baptismal between Jesus and John? The Bible records that they both conversed with John saying he won't do the baptismal but Jesus said guy don't worry continue to give me a shower and the Heaven spoke for everyone to hear and they all saw the Dove that came from heaven,why then was he still sending people to ask Jesus those questions?

As you can see, you don't know your own records but will be all over the place putting up posers you have no idea about.

John the Baptist crew were they Arabs? Or Chinese? Did Jesus answer their Questions?
I can see that you are doing everything everything to escape my question therefore, if you feel this is a serious issue, open a new thread on it and I promise to join you thrash it out.

NOW,
To the issue at stake


Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 9:36am On Feb 05, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Oga, you are ignorant!

Was it not the same John the Baptist that poured the cold water of River Jordan on your Jesus during Baptism? When he exclaimed behold the Lamb of God (sic) and a voice was heard saying " this is my son..... Plus a white dove descends on Jesus from heaven?

Yet after all that show, he still sent people to ask Jesus " are you the one or should we expect another?

Was it the Prison food or was he slapped around so much so he forgot all that transpired at Jesus Baptism?

The above is not what I want to point out rather : what was Jesus answer to these queries a) are you the one b) should we look for another?

Please post Jesus response.

I will wait...
The Messiah was expected to ALSO ursher in the glorious kingdom of Israel and the world. John expected to be saved by Jesus from prison and yet he remained in it.
This confused John enough to send his disciples to Jesus.
Jesus response was that John's disciples should tell him of the preachings and miracles they've experienced.

If you considered that as Jesus NOT knowing the answer, too bad!

Is this your best example of Jesus's inability to answer questions from the Jews!?

Now, back to my question.

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 9:19am On Feb 05, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol, did you not see my question:

Pray, I beseech thee, that it was Jubril that “breathed” the spirit of Allah into Mariam?

Lol! The stray advocatejare could help out with Victorian English if you don’t know… Lol 😂
Here the Islam is vague because
Jubril is termed as the Holy Spirit. Therefore, as per your question, I'll stick with what the Qur'an says.

According to the Qur'an
It was Jubril who probably by the permission of Allah to come to Mary in form of a MAN and Blow into Mary's Vagina! Qur'an21:91
(Without saying what was blown)

However,
Qur'an 66:12 is a little more explicit of what was blown by Jubril as the Spirit from Allah.

Your question answered again
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:53am On Feb 05, 2023
AntiChristian:
Allah does whatever He wills! You have called me a Liar instead of accepting your ignorance!

Allah breathed into Adam too without Angel and parents.

Jesus's was with an Angel and human mother.

Just the way Allah intends it.
I am glad you said Allah does whatever he wills and this brings my third question.


We can see that Jubril could appear in another form by the permission of Allah and still remain Jubril.

Can Allah appear in another form and still remain Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:21am On Feb 05, 2023
AntiChristian:
You're simply a layman without any knowledge of what you're saying! I know you'll never end the argument.

What does checkmate mean? More like this is a game to you?

Everyone is a liar except you!
I remember I said:
Farjah means Sleave of Garment!?
AntiChristian, when will you stop telling lies to cover other lies?
I didn't intend to directly accuse you of lying. I apologize (you were basically quoting the lies of Muslim translators and it doesn't make you in particular a liar). I hope I am forgiven?

That been said;
Your argument was that Farjah could mean either the Vagina OR the Sleeve of a garment. I'm aware that some Islamic scholars differ on the exact translation and many English Translators in particular prefer the "softer and more less vulgar" translation even though it contradicts Quran 21:91.

Checkmate just mean that you have no other interpretation or without contradicting the Qur'an and as such, a checkmate!

Even if we don't like it as modern English speakers, the word Farjah in Qur'an 66:12 is Vagina.

The Question I asked may be fitting ONLY for the highest Clerics of Islam and not you. You'll agree with me that a weak faith Muslim should not even contemplate it's imagination.

The Question Again:
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


Thanks for your understanding as you've been much more civil than others.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 11:53pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see:
The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

-- Matthew 11:2-6


Please tell us Jesus answer to this very clear and concise questions from The Baptist crew.

Are you the one or should we expect another? They asked....

Please provide Jesus answer....

I will wait...

And of course The Baptists crew rejected your Jesus because he did not answer their query and the Bible never record the Baptist reaction to what Jesus told the Baptist crew
Unfortunately, you exhibited a gross ignorance of the bible
1. You said Jews asked Jesus question that he couldn't answer: till now you are still looking for an example.
2. You said John disciples asked Jesus a question from John. Did Jesus not respond!?

Jesus said:
Luk 7:22:
"Then Jesus answering said to them, Go your way, and tell John what things you have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached."

In other words, tell John that there is no point looking for another person


Of course, the blind will remain sightless until they fall into the ditch.

Here are the Disciples of John becoming Christians:
Acts 19:3-5:
"And he said to them, To what then were you baptized? And they said, To John's baptism. Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."





Now answer my questions:


ANSWER MY QUESTION

The Question had been consistent for several pages now.
Can you tell me one Question the JEWS asked Jesus that he couldn't answer?

Just one example is enough sir.


LOL!

I don't want us to loose the crux of the matter, the question remain
Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 11:00pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
For starters, Read Mathew Chapter 11. When you are done, please tell us what was Jesus answer to the guys John the Baptist sent to him.(Jesus).
The disciples of John the Baptist were the Jews that rejected Jesus!?
I hope you are not on Carmel urine plus hashish?


ANSWER MY QUESTION

The Question had been consistent for several pages now.
Can you tell me one Question the JEWS asked Jesus that he couldn't answer?

Just one example is enough sir.


LOL!

I don't want us to loose the crux of the matter, the question remain
Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?


.
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Shoots Down Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Over Atlantic Ocean by TenQ: 10:37pm On Feb 04, 2023
useni1:
After all data have been collected and sent to Beijing. Americans are clowns. The overhyped US. Tranny military won't last 30mins in a war with China.
Says people fighting Ukraine because they received help from annihilation by Putin!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 10:35pm On Feb 04, 2023
advocatejare:
Please deprive him of the attention he desires, he’s not worth it!
Okay!
Ill break off from this as my point is already made.

I am not engaging LegalWolf because of him: he's actually helping my case by his display of IGNORANCE!

Stay Blessed Bro!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 10:31pm On Feb 04, 2023
advocatejare:
Then you should have known that his IQ is too low for such level of conversation, stop engaging him as he has proven himself to be an ignorant IL-LegalWolf.

He should be conversing with his fellow dunces !
I understand you bro!
I'm not engaging him because of him!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 10:30pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
If I show you, would deactivate?
Is that a request or an instruction?
Did someone tell you I joined nairaland because of you?

ANSWER MY QUESTION

The Question had been consistent for several pages now.
Can you tell me one Question the JEWS asked Jesus that he couldn't answer?

Just one example is enough sir.


LOL!

I don't want us to loose the crux of the matter, the question remain
Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 10:22pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol, potential thief. Again, tell us the form of answer your will prefer because I have answered you. If you are stuck, talk let us know than this meaningless tirade
Thats why you are tongue tied

So, simply put Mr legalWolf:
Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran 19:71-72)
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 10:21pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol, did you not see my question:

Pray, I beseech thee, that it was Jubril that “breathed” the spirit of Allah into Mariam?

Lol! The stray advocatejare could help out with Victorian English if you don’t know… Lol 😂
You can see that it is very true that Islam breaks down under slight scrutiny>

The Question cannot be answered truthfully because it destroys the very foundation of your faith in the garbage of Mohammed.


Did Jubril stop being an Angel (momentarily)?

Now, my next Question:
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?

Forgive me for the explicit word: I am just copying what the Qur'an says
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 10:19pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Conversation between a potential thief and a stray advocatejare …. Lol!
Nothing else to say!?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 9:34pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
If the Pope know the Bible, he won't be bowing for the effigies at his Cathedrals and he will order that ALL the images of Angels and humans in their Cathedrals be taken down.

That said, if I bring you where Jesus left his Listeners hanging by not answering their question, would you agree to deactivate your Account?
The Question had been consistent for several pages now.

Can you tell me one Question the JEWS asked Jesus that he couldn't answer?

Just one example is enough sir.


LOL!

I don't want us to loose the crux of the matter, the question remain

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Politics › Re: Sonia, Ekweremadu's Daughter Loses Bid To Be Excused From Trial by TenQ: 9:33pm On Feb 04, 2023
NwekeUG:
https://igberetvnews.com/1438272/ekweremadus-daughter-loses-bid-excused-trial/
I pray they all come out of this unbroken, healed and repaired!

I also hope a lesson had been learnt in treatment of "low class" human beings: they may be low, but they deserve respect and necessary help. This story would not be this complex if the route had been taken.

After this, I pray for a successful surgery for their daughter and salvation for the family from this legal trouble.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 9:23pm On Feb 04, 2023
advocatejare:
The IL- LegalWolf is deceptive and cunning like Al-Makireena the best of the deceivers, Allah aka Satan the same has blinded IL- LegalfWolf heart to send him to hell where he will be given fictitious 72 houris
I am used to him: when caught, he will twist and turn avoiding the question but using every tactic to change the narrative to other things.

I asked him:
When Jubril came to Mary as a Man, did he stop being an Angel?

Except he will answer tomorrow!
I asked him again:
If Jubril didn't see an Angel but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's under?

Except he will answer this tomorrow!
I asked him again:
If God tells the SUN not to Bring forth Light : Is that in the Preview of his kun faya kun or NOT?


Even simple Question like the one below, weve been on it for several posts now
Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)


Unfortunately, he doesn't know that the READERS can easily decipher the person dodging to respond to questions.

When he want to terminate a discussion, he resorts to slander and name calling so that it will become a shouting match between two-fighting LOL!

I am perfectly comfortable with him: many Muslims are like that especially if they are fairly knowledgeable and can see when their response will box them into an irrevocable corner.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 9:11pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Lol

That means you are ignorant of your Lord history and I am not here to teach you your faith. Get busy and do some reading. My hope is that you find a little understanding in what you read.

When your Lord and personal saviour spoke in Parables he did not explain, what do you call that? When he told them he will send them another comforter to teach them "all" things and bring in remembrance the things he taught?

I can give you many instance where he left even his disciples hanging but you won't understand but rather believe in your preconceived notions about things which are majorly tripe from many years of thorough brainwashing excercise.
You know what, It seems you know the bible more than the Pope


Can you tell me one Question the JEWS asked Jesus that he couldn't answer?

Just one example is enough sir.


LOL!

I don't want us to loose the crux of the matter, the question remain

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?[/quote]
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 8:56pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
He did not give answers to all their questions! I can give you references but it will only lead to more confusion for an already confused mind.

Do you remember Jesus Parables? Did he give full exposition or their meanings? He spoke in Parables so that seeing they will see not and hearing they will hear not.

Posers and questions, when sincere are answered but the ones to test, to ridicule when you know fully well that what is before you is the truth are not answered.

So, as you see Jesus never gave answers to everything for if he did, there won't be any need for a second coming and he doesn't have to send another comforter to teach and tell them "All" things.
Can you tell me one Question the Jews asked Jesus that he couldnt answer?
Just one example is enough sir.

LOL!

I don't want us to loose the crux of the matter, the question remain

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 8:46pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Fa fa fa… foul 😝😝😝

I think the case is closed as your circuitous logic is daft. You made reference to a source, we ASSERT that your logic is fallacious and even challenged you to bring anything to the contrary.

What has been your response? Hullabaloo baba blue up and down! Lol. You said I ask you to assume creative power of God! Lol, potential thief that can’t think.

When you bring evidence that KFK was used outside creation/creating (i.e., converting), then we can have an argument.

Suffice to say like your religion, your logic is bereft of reasoning. Just baba blue up and down. And I hope people like FxMasterz see that you’ve got nothing upstairs.

And to the strays like Advocatejare … I have no word for them
LOL,
I have simplified the Question for you , why dance around it?
ANSWER THE SIMPLE QUESTION



FINALLY A QUESTION TO CLARIFY EVERYTHING
If God tells the SUN not to Bring forth Light : Is that in the Preview of his kun faya kun or NOT?
YES or NO!



See, I've simplified the Question for you!
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul The Apostle Lied! He Contradicts Jesus True & Divine Message. by TenQ: 8:42pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
“Volume of words” won’t save you. I’m not less than 3 sentences, please show us the logical connection between all you’ve written and this topic?

Just three sentences (and don’t bore us with your useless words m)



Cc: FxMasterz
Please, don't change the subject as I wont allow you


The Bible is WRITTEN by MEN
BUT
THE QURAN is DIRECTLY from ALLAH


Is there any reason for comparison?
Book BY Allah vs Book BY Men



So therefore, we can TEST the validity of THE PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH
(Didn't Allah challenge Man and Jinn if it is possible to produce a chapter like the Quran?)

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"


For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serious impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 8:40pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
I gave you a clear answer, but it appears that is NOT what you want. And I asked you to tell me what your ideal answer would be like, you’re still yarning dust. Is that how empty your skulls are?


Lol, potential thief Lawrence Aninih, oh sorry TenQnih
Cc: FxMasterz
Because you started TWISTING and TURNING immediately I asked you to CONFIRM that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims

We would have saved ourselves of these ENDLESS Hide and Seek!
TenQ:
TWIST AND TURNS as USUAL

You are the Muslim: Why are you AFRAID to ANSWER a DIRECT QUESTION?
You are a lawyer : Are the Cautious specifically MUSLIMS?

Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
OR
Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are NOT the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72) These are Probably Christians! LOL!

Why are you AFRAID Mr LegalWolf?
Why naw!?
So, simply put Mr legalWolf:
Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)

Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:33pm On Feb 04, 2023
AntiChristian:
I don't even know what he hopes to achieve here when it's established Allah appoints Angel to each womb!
Did Allah appoint Angels to appear as men AND blowing into the garment of women?
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 8:31pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol, me flee from your question? 😂😂😝🤪 You have an over-bloated sense of self worth. More annoying is that you are a future thief?

Pray, I beseech thee, that it was Jubril that “breathed” the spirit of Allah into Mariam?
You can see that it is very true that Islam breaks down under slight scrutiny>

The Question cannot be answered truthfully because it destroys the very foundation of your faith in the garbage of Mohammed.


Did Jubril stop being an Angel (momentarily)?

Now, my next Question:
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?

Forgive me for the explicit word: I am just copying what the Qur'an says
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op):
What does فَرْجَهَا mean?
AND
What does فِيهَا mean?
Whose INTERPRETATION of the Quran is Superior: the One from Allah or the One from Men?
LOL![/i]
Lets ride!
AntiChristian:
Once again Allah never said that in the Qu'ran!

Here are some interpretations:
Sahih International: And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient.

Pickthall: And Mary, daughter of 'Imran, whose body was chaste, therefore We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. And she put faith in the words of her Lord and His scriptures, and was of the obedient.

Yusuf Ali: And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).

Shakir: And Mariam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.

Muhammad Sarwar: He has also told, as a parable, the story of Mary, daughter of Imran who preserved her virginity and (into whose womb) We breathed Our spirit. She made the words of her Lord and the predictions in His Books come true. She was an obedient woman.

Mohsin Khan: And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Ruh [i.e. Jibrael (Gabriel)], and she testified to the truth of the Words of her Lord [i.e. believed in the Words of Allah: "Be!" and he was; that is 'Iesa (Jesus) ­ son of Maryam (Mary); as a Messenger of Allah], and (also believed in) His Scriptures, and she was of the Qanitin (i.e. obedient to Allah).

Arberry: And Mary, Imran's daughter, who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our Spirit, and she confirmed the Words of her Lord and His Books, and became one of the obedient

As per the lie you claimed i lied, the tafsirs vindicates me!
First of all, scholars of Tafseer had several opinions regarding the meaning of Farjaha (her Farj) in the saying of Allaah The Almighty: {Who guarded Farjaha}[Quran 66: 12] Some of them said: "It means the known private part." Some others said: "It means the neck opening of her garment in which Jibreel (Gabriel) blew and that breath went into her womb; this is how ‘Eesa (Jesus) may Allaah exalt his mention was conceived."

Ibn Jareer At-Tabari may Allaah have mercy upon him said: "There are different opinions regarding the Farj that Allaah The Almighty said that she guarded. Some said: "It refers to her private part that she guarded against fornication. Some others said: "It means the neck opening of her garment from which she prevented Jibreel before she came to know that he was the messenger of her Lord. This is proved by His saying {So We blew into her} and this followed His saying: {Who guarded Farjaha}. They said: "In this way, the meaning is: who guarded the neck opening of her garment and We blew into it [her garment] through Our angel."

Al-Qurtubi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in his Tafseer: "{Who guarded Farjaha} meaning, who guarded her chastity and refrained from fornication. It was also said: "The word Farj means the neck opening of the garment, meaning no suspicion afflicted her garment (i.e. honor)." In other words, her garment (honor) is pure. A garment has four openings: Two sleeves and the upper and lower openings... " [End quote]

Az-Zarkashi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in Al-Burhaan: "Whoever thinks that it means the private part is really mistaken. Rather, it is one of the finest and best metonymy. It refers to the neck opening of the garment, i.e. no suspicion afflicted her garment (honor). She has pure garments (i.e. she is chaste); and the garment has four openings; two sleeves…etc." [End quote]

If we assume that what is meant is the private part, as is the view of Ibn Jareer At-Tabari may Allaah have mercy upon him then Allaah The Almighty has mentioned it about Maryam (Mary) to explain her chastity and prove her innocence of what the Jews, may Allaah curse them repeatedly, accused her of.

Hence, explicit mention of such matters that the questioner called 'sexual' is not considered dispraised in all conditions.
I was patiently waiting for you sir.
Of course there is this EMBARRASSMENT by English translators of the Quran , so they would rather tell lies than report exactly what the Quran says.

Your Argument is that:
Jubril Blew into THE SLEEVE of Mary isnt it?
And the Sleeve of Mary is Her Garment!

But Let me deflate your bubbles BY the Quran
Quran 21:91
وَٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا وَٱبْنَهَآ ءَايَةًۭ لِّلْعَـٰلَمِينَ ٩١
[i]Quran 21:91
And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her through Our angel, ˹Gabriel, making her and her son a sign for all peoples.


Are you saying that
Jubril Blew into the SLEEVES of Mary's Garment
or
Jubril Blew into Mary


If Quran will not contradict itself, Farjah can only mean Vagina (Despite ALL the cover-ups)!

So, my dear AntiChristian
1. Is the Quran 21:91 contradicting Quran 66:12 as per the Sleeve is that of a Garment BUT Mary is a Person ?
(one is "IT" while the other is "HER"wink
2. If the Quran is not contradicting each other, then would you agree that Farjah is the same in both verses above?

Islamic conspiracies ALWAYS break down when subjected to Questioning!

Checkmate!

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