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LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ

On the 13 December 2022, I canvassed the following argument (which you were mentioned) reproduced below. Just to clarify - I never said I responded to you or answered your question. Why would I spend my time explaining my religion to a person destined by a thief? A future armed robber - Lawrence TenQnih. Nah. I have other things to do. But for the sake of completeness, here you have it



cc: Lawrence TenQnih the future thief

FxMasterz [you can run through the post and that gives you an insight into my explanation. I made further rebuttals and you should check that as well]

LegalWolf:
Lol! Your logic is always antithetical to common sense. ALWAYS!
I have dealt with this logic of Israelites prophets bearing yhwh name extensively somewhere else. Even TenQ could NEVER in a thousand years rebut the logic of my argument. Please run through my post as I am unwilling to repeat myself.
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TenQ:
I guess you should explain how some of your prophets have the name containing Yahweh and the WHOLE Quran is a STRANGER to Yahweh

English Hebrew Arabic....................................... Meaning
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās(Arabic) Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau(Arabic) Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah(Arabic) Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahiya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah(Arabic) Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)


Allah the God of Mohammed and you Muslims is ALIEN to Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Just explain How Allah called his prophets with the names reflecting Yahweh and Yahweh is ABSENT in the 99 Names of Allah?

TenQ:
Since you are slow in learning and you can understand my previous post, I will distil it as a single question for you
Please answer these Questions
Jubril and Ismail are meaningful Hebrew names in the Qur'an. What do they mean!

I await your stupid EVASIVE answer as usual!?

TenQ:
The OP raised an observation:
Allah gave his prophets with the names of other deities (paraphrased)

EXAMPLES:
No muslim have been able to explain :

Let me help you out with the basics


Gabriel (English) Jubril (Arabic) Gavri-El(Hebrew)
'God is my strength" (meaning)

Ishmael(English),
Ismail(Arabic)
Ishmay-El(Hebrew) God Hears or God will hear (meaning)

Samuel(English) Samuil/Shamil(Arabic) Samu-El (Hebrew) "God has set" or "God has placed"(meaning)

Michael(English) Mika'il(Arabic) Mikha-El (Hebrew) "Who is like God?" or" there is none like God" (meaning)


So, We cay say:
1. I presume that Allah gave Jubril and Mika'il their names: so, in your opinion why did Allah name them after the Canaanite god?
2. Ishmael and Samuil are your prophet in Islam. Why are they bearing names that praises EL the Canaanite god?

Donkmore:
Please give me Quranic verses so explain some for you.
The as per what you call prostitution I don't understand. Because islam is against that.

Donkmore:
You see the problem you people do have with Quran is explanation of verses which if you read the commentry you will understand.
Just read the commentry of those verses and you are good.

Donkmore:
But your own book has contradictions that is one lie / one truth.

In Samuel we are made to know " Saul enquired of the Lord but he did not answer him by dream or prophet"
But Chronicles said " he did not inquired so God killed him"
Did he or did he not inquire.( Which Is the lie which is the truth)

Keturah Genesis said is Wife of Abraham, Chronicles said She is not wife but concubine.
What is she? (Which is the lie which is the truth)

Lord moved David to number isreal another said. Satan provoked him. Who did? Satan or the Lord? Who lied? Because Satan and God are not synonymous terms
The list goes on and on actually
Is you want the verses I can provide for you

drlateef:
Let’s discuss that in another forum. But one thing you must take home: bible was the word of humans who wrote letters and stories to form a book. If this is false, just say that. If you agree with that, how can you then claim its the word of God?

TenQ:
I believe you can explain the delusions I posted for your friend
1. If you read the bible, there is NO WHERE where God Wrote ANYTHING in the Bible except the 10 commandments which was broken by Moses and he had to rewrite it with his own hands.
2. The Quran is acclaimed by muslims that it is the VERBATIM word of Allah dictated to Mohammed through Jubril and it is PERFECTLY preserved till today.

LegalWolf:
Lol, TenQ you do no one good by writing 'volume of words' that end up being meaningless. I try to keep my point simple. And not just that, I think you recognize the folly of your argument and that is why you cannot adequately frame your thoughts or deliberately repeat questions I have answered. Let us get to the point
I need to break it down to you like a baby. Conceded it is the man who needs to pay the fine. I think that answers your question, right? But the dilemma here which I stressed in my previous post is not from the angle of the child. It is a two way thing. Both the Judge need to impose the judgment and the child need to pay the price. And the implication of that proposition has been clearly explained!!!!!!!!!

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ
1. From what you have written, it will appear to a logical mind that yhwh NEEDS sacrifice before he can forgive sin. Is my understanding correct?

TenQ:
The Nature of God is to give a Command "BE" and whatEVER God's will is is EXECUTED to the letter. Sin is that which challenges the command of "BE " of God. SIN is that which challenges the AUTHORITY of God to be God! God judges it with an infinite Judgement

God does not NEED sacrifice to forgive SIN, it is Man who need a sacrifice/exchange for his sin to be atoned

LegalWolf:
Even a dumb imbec1le gets the point. The judge is incapacitated because he most follow a law he cannot change. To bring it more bluntly, yhwh is incapacitated to change the law he made. And that raises questions of whether he is truly the one who made it.

LegalWolf:
Let me quote what I said previously. Now on your question, the simple answer it is inconceivable to a Muslim mind that something wouldn't if God says Be. I can't think of it as a Muslim. If God says Be and It isn't, then he ceases to be God. Ce fini!

You are in a hurry to answer questions without reflecting on the points I have canvassed. Let the argument sink in, self-reflect, weigh it and don't be overly defensive.

LegalWolf:
And on the second question.. what does 'holy' mean? In what sense? I do not know of God's commandment that we should be 'holy'. Please explain.

LegalWolf:
I needed to seperate this part because it is relevant to our conversation, The amputated part will be discarded. TenQ you are not talking to a group of retards in your church that deferentially calls you 'father' or 'brother'. This is a public forum where right thinking men obtain information. Apparently, you did not read my post and just jumped to what your pre-conceived myopic opinions led you to. I directly answered your question by saying:

..... I can drink from either of the two cups, to the extent they are very clean. When cleaning our nephew’s poo, at times my hand gets stained. . I even threw a question to you that Should I cease to eat with that hand because it is stained with poo AFTER washing my hands?

So it baffles me when you say I did not answer it!

TenQ:
Answering the Question will help you understand the magnitude of SIN to God!
Look at my full (first) analogy of the excrement. Let me modify it a little to fax sense into you

I asked you a simple Question to Illustrate it. if you had answered it, you would have understood the concept.
Which of this two cups will you drink from
a. First Cup:
Contains one teaspoon of human TenQ's excrement (but already washed with soap and water)
OR
b. Second Cup:
Contains thirty teaspoon of human TenQ's excrement (but already washed with soap and water)


The above is to help you see that CLEANING a vessel DOES NOT remove the fact that it is UNFIT for Use Again. My Washing it with Soap and Water and even Bleach changes NOTHING!

TenQ:
All you ended up saying is nonsense. Unless one is insane, I bet it does not make sense to you as well. ... Blood of Sacrifice is a Representation of the Evidence that LIFE has been taken . WTF does that mean?

The simple point I have established is that BOTH under the Old Testament and the New Testament, Blood (of sheeps or his co-god) is a sine qua non for yhwh to forgive. Simple!

If you agree with the Message of Jesus but disagree with the idea that god took his blood to forgive, you go no where. If you repent from SIn and live according to the rules of the Messiah without accepting the preposterous idea that the blood of yehoshua is sacrificed for your sins, again you go no where . Is that not correct?

. Last I checked, the topic here is the gospel explained for Muslims, is that not correct?

TenQ:
TenQ you are saying balderdash and it is surprising how people one may suppose to be right thinking could conceive you have a functional brain. Stray humans for example like advocatejare . Does that guy think at all?

Now to your question (underlined), how am I to know the answer to your question? I am less than 50 years in age and you are asking me to provide evidence to something of thousands of years ago. Whether God's commandment has been violated? Is this what they teach you in Bible School?

Modified: I have always rated you lowly. Like someone without a functional brain and to be played with. The same way you see white folks play with dogs and that is exactly how I see you (particularly on my free time)

But just a quick question - would you tell us where God’s commandment of Be did not materialise, ehn?

drlateef:
Thank you so much for your short and apt answers. They are so much in delusion. Allah says nobody can release them from the delusion. That’s why we must not waste our time on him.

Donkmore:
Actually, I didn't read this thread. But the Bible according to George Bernard Shaw is the most dangerous book on Earth. He said keep it in the lock and keys.

No honest person will still be a Christian considering the amount of clear contradictions in the Bible.
The book does not have a claim from God that it's his own
Even the word Bible is no where in the Bible

God is not the author of confusion
So there is no way the Bible with so much controversy can be from him.

Clear evidences

MrCodeSolo:
Now, I know you bible people know nothing about pre-islamic arabs.
you are talking about the ilah, hubal. In Arabian mythology, Hubal (Arabic: هُبَل) was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably by the Quraysh at the Kaaba in Mecca. The god's idol was a human figure believed to control acts of divination, which was performed by tossing arrows before the statue.
"Religion in pre-Islamic Arabia was a mix of polytheism,
Christianity, Judaism, and Iranian religions.
pre-islamic arab polytheism, the dominant belief system, was based on the belief in deities
and other supernatural beings such as djinn.
Gods and goddesses were worshipped at local shrines, such as the Kaaba in Mecca."

The idol's devotees fought against followers of the Islamic prophet Muhammad(pbuh) during the Battle of Badr in 624 AD. After Muhammad (pbuh) entered Mecca in 630, he destroyed the statue of Hubal from the Kaaba along with the idols of all the other pagan gods.

go and read more to know much more better

AntiChristian:
In five minutes i will introduce Islam to you as the only religion that guarantees paradise! You only have to believe in Allah as your only Lord worthy of all worship and that Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam is Allah's last messenger sent to the world after Jesus and others!
Allah has neither son nor partners to help him. He is the creator, cherisher and sustainer of all that exists!

I will then encourage you to say the Kalimah and to have faith in it!

It was narrated from Anas that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) visited a man from among the Ansaar when he was sick and he said: “O maternal uncle, say Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah.” He said: “Maternal uncle or paternal uncle?” He said: “Maternal uncle.” He said: “Is it better for me to say it?’ He said: “Yes.” Narrated by Ahmad, 13414. Al-Albaani said in Ahkaam al-Janaa’iz: its isnaad is saheeh according to the conditions of Muslim.

AntiChristian:
Adam is the father of Mankind. If we all inherit Adam's sin and Jesus was born by Mary one of Adam's generation, how was Jesus exempted from inheriting the sin of Adam?
Moreover, the real misconception is that humans inherit sin from Adam. Adam's sin is for him only! And Allah has forgiven Adam in the Qur'an.
Allah is most Gracious Most Merciful! Why would He not forgive one person and allow all his generations inherit sins from him?

AntiChristian:
Of course, Muslims won't understand it as it is illogical for 1+1+1=1. The addition = 3. They are separate from one another! So they are different. They have different thrones in heaven where the son seats at the right side of the father! Sin against the spirit is Not forgivable Whereas sins against the father/son can be forgiven by discretion!
The Trinity is false! The association of Jesus and a Spirit with God is Shirk! Islam is always strict with the worship of Allah alone

“Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent” John 17:3

“A certain ruler asked him: ‘Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’
‘Why do you call me good?’ Jesus answered. ‘No one is good – except God alone.’” Luke 18:18-19

“The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world.
And he said to him, ‘I will give you all their authority and splendour, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.
So if you worship me, it will all be yours.’
Jesus answered, ‘It is written: “Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.”’”
Luke 4:5-8

Believing in and worshipping Allaah alone, besides Whom there is no other god, is the greatest teaching brought by the Messiah, and it is the greatest teaching brought by all the Prophets.

“One of the teachers of the law came and noticed them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, ‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’

‘The most important one,’ answered Jesus, ‘is this: “Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.”

The second is this: “Love your neighbour as yourself.” There is no commandment greater than these.’

‘Well said, teacher,’ the man replied. ‘You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.

To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbour as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.’

When Jesus saw that he has answered wisely, he said to him, ‘You are not far from the kingdom of God.’ And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.”
Mark 12:28-34

You can see Jesus say that the man above is not far from the Kingdom of God! The man never believed Jesus will die! Nor does he even believe in your trinity!

AntiChristian:
Death is the exit from this present world to the life of the grave. It will either end in punishment or bliss till resurrection day!

AntiChristian:
There is forgiveness for one who dies in Islam. We are commanded not to die except as Muslims. Even at death, there are some rewards that can still be recorded for the dead! That is established in Islam. https://www.nairaland.com/4372370/deeds-meet-dead-muslims

AntiChristian:
This is why you are a snake. Legalwolf, lukuluk69, Haekymbahd. In one hand you'll be telling us you are preaching salvation yet on the other hand you'll be telling lies! I have never being to Mecca. So that means my sins have never being forgiven?
And it is common knowledge that Muhammad was human! Allah is far above being human or being conquered by death one of His creation!
Say, "It is only God who deserves all praise. He has not begotten a son and has no partner in His Kingdom. He does not need any guardian to help Him in His need. Proclaim His greatness. Qur'an 17:111

Everything Allah made were by His word "Be" and it becomes. You are the one who is ignorant. Allah created the earth in six days but we know He can do it with a command in a fraction of a seconds! His command "Be" initiates the process which occurs spontaneously as He wills and is completed when He wills.

Jesus raised the dead by Allah's leave! Abraham too did same by Allah's leave. Even an unnamed Prophet was shown how a body that has decayed would be raised up. All this happened in the Qur'an.

Jesus too was praying in the Bible. Why would he pray? Why did he say he can of himself do nothing?

Abeg what is "may" in Arabic? The truth is Allah forgives whoever He wills and He punished whoever He wills.

LegalWolf:
Lol 😂
You’ve never constructed any logical argument since I know you. The more you try to explain, the bigger your folly. I don’t envy you at all.
You fail to appreciate common sense. The issue of “need” I raise is not from the perspective of the son but the incapacitated judge. And a fine rebuttal to your logic has been made in my previous post.
I think I need to make it clear here that I rubbished your “exchange” analogy and even threw a question at you. As expected, you’re mute on that point.

LegalWolf:
Did I not respond to this question in my previous post? Repeating questions can’t save you lol!

LegalWolf:
You’ve thrown up many questions and I’ll strive to answer them. I can drink from either of the two cups, to the extent they are very clean. When cleaning our nephew’s poo, at times my hand gets stained. Should I cease to eat with that hand because it is stained with poo AFTER washing my hands?

For your comprehension, you just argued exactly what I have been struggling to say. If you say it is impossible to pay the fine of our sin without god first executing his justice (which is done by blood of Jesus - whatsoever that means), it invariably means your God cannot forgive sins without blood.

To avoid any doubt, blood is a sine qua non for the forgiveness/atonement of sins. Not your subjective state of mind. Not your willingness to repent. Just blood of animals or his co-god. Lol 😂 I really love yhwh! Hallelu….what?

Now you posed a question to me on what I do for atonement. All I do is to intend to ask for forgiveness and manifest it. Shikena! Sins are individual and not communal and the blood of one god or animal is not needed for me to be forgiven.

Islam is no match to the nonsense of a religion whose god requires blood in order forgive. That’ll lead to me to further questions later on.

LegalWolf:
Again, your argument is puerile. I’ve written so much for the morning and I would not want to spend time doing a line-by-line rebuttal. I’ll just answer your question. I’m not suggesting that God can change the laws of Kun fayakun. I am ASSERTING that he can if he wills. Simple.
I think I need to make this point quite clear. Hypothetically, God is unconstrained. He does not need our intention and work to forgive us. Again, hypothetically, we can seek forgiveness with intent and good work and he can refuse it. We may not seek forgiveness and he can forgive us.
This is just theory. But we are certain as Muslims that he is going to forgive us because he has given us his words that he will if we come in true repentance. Not with blood of goats or ashes of heifers. Neither does he need the blood of one Yehoshua to atone for our sins.

You’ve been moving with low quality stray people like Advocatejare and your rapist defending lawyer friend. That has affected your thinking process. Think TenQ !

LegalWolf:
LOOOOOOOOOOL!
Despite my admonition for brevity, you threw caution to the the dustbin and spilled 'volume of words'. You said a lot but you ended up saying nothing. That is the unfortunate dilemma of the Christian. And like the stray advocatejare, you strayed from the question.

Just a quick one.... I have read your epistle and I will try to expose the deficiency in your logic.

My sincere apologies, this does not answer the very simple question. On the highlight, you claimed Man needs a sacrifice in exchange for his sin to be atoned. Key word here is exchange. Going by your example, it is just by saying a seller of a car does not need the money that the buyer pays. Rather, it is the buyer that needs the car before he can own it. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

TenQ, this is thing you can be saying in beer parlors or in a group of retards but not in the congregation of right thinking men. And this was what led to my second question [PS: I decided to break this down so I can address the question you asked me]

LegalWolf:
Your further explanation does no good and it has not remotely explained why sacrifice MUST be exchanged for atonement. In fact, your triune God finds themselves in a precarious situation here. They are like our typical sellers WHO must exchange their goods with money before they part away with it. In essence, the same the buyer needs the goods for whatsoever reason is exactly the same way your God needs animal sacrifices to forgive sins. That position is something I find extremely ridiculous for a homo sapiens to maintain

Now on your question, the simple answer it is inconceivable to a Muslim mind that something wouldn't if God says Be. I can't think of it as a Muslim. If God says Be and It isn't, then he ceases to be God. Ce fini!

LegalWolf:
You strayed from a very simple question. We are into dialectics here and your opinions must be reasoned and well thought-out. I asked a very simple question which I will repeat below:

was it possible under the Old Testament for sins to be atoned for without sacrifices to yhwh?

Or under New testament, is it possible that our sins can be atoned for without the blood of the Messiah?

Please don't beat around the bush and answer yes or no.

(underlined)

If I understand you well, you said magnitude of the light and heavy sinner is different. This accords with reason and common sense in my view. So why would yhwh take the minutest of sin with gravity, to the extent of requiring the blood of his co-god?

LegalWolf:
I have answered the first part of your question. Again, analogy does not make sense with all due respect. Let me explain using your scenario. Hypothetically, if my son is charged for drunk-driving and he is charged to my court, as you rightly said, I am confined to imposing the penalty under the law.

That is because I am incapable of changing the law. That is because I am bound by the law and I subject my self to something superior.That goes to my previous point that I need to Impose the Penalty as my hands are tied. That is why I may impose the penalty and pay the fine subsequently with my own funds.

But the situation is different with a supposed god. In fact, it does not make sense to conceive the idea that God's hands are tied. That he can ONLY forgive sins with blood sacrifice. That he NEEDS sacrifice in order to atone people's sins.

It is a senseless proposition that amputates logic!

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ

Ideally, I wanted to play by your logic asking the same sets of [idi0tic] questions I think you would have asked if the roles were reversed. But we have better things to do. I will throw my questions up and give you the context so you can appreciate where I am coming from.

1. From what you have written, it will appear to a logical mind that yhwh NEEDS sacrifice before he can forgive sin. Is my understanding correct?

Now let me contextualize it, you made references to the Old Testament were annual ordinance of animal sacrifice was used to atone for sins. According to you, 'sacrifice of the Messiah is INFINITE' and has perfectly substituted the annual sacrifices done in the time of old.

So in any event, there is an element of need of blood from yhwh in order to forgive. For avoidance of doubt, shedding of blood is a precondition for Yhwh to forgive sins. Is my understanding correct?

LegalWolf:
2. If, hypothetically, you disagree with my analysis, was it possible under the Old Testament for sins to be atoned for without sacrifices to yhwh? Or under New testament, is it possible that our sins can be atoned for without the blood of the Messiah?

Let me add further flesh to this - because it will appear to me that the blood is the exclusive option for atonement. It is a sine qua non upon which atonement by your god must be done. All other things are secondary. Is this understanding correct?

LegalWolf:
3. You said that '... By God's law, the minutest sin must be Judged as VIOLATIONS of God's rule is taken extremely seriously by God. . Does that not offend your sense of justice if violation of the minutest sin is taken extremely serious by a supposed yhwh.

So, even amongst imperfect men, not all crimes are judged with the same severity. I remember that during the Okupe trial, you insinuated that it was wrong for Okupe to be sentenced lightly for the grievous sum he stole. We could make converse argument too. If I work on sabbath, for example, why would a supposed yhwh judge me exactly the same way as he would judge someone who committed murder?

LegalWolf:
4. You claimed that only God has the Power to take our contaminated LIFE and wash it by HIMSELF with His OWN Detergent and Bleach and to His OWN Satisfaction. [i] This he does through the blood of Jesus. Does that not in any way mean that your yhwh is incapacitated and may not be omnipotent after all, if he CANNOT take out contaminated life with something else

Let me give you an example - suppose I have a Colt that I ride to different places. I can only wash that colt with water because I am human and I am limited to what I have. I am absolute and neither am I infinite. But should the same attribute be said of yhwh?


I think I have three more questions but I am tired and I have some other important matters to attend to. Please deal with this in the mean time

FxMasterz:
You're welcome brother.
I got really touched by the bolded. Are you really sure about this? Why then do they vehemently oppose any other forms of reasoning when they know deep down, their faith provides no guarantee?

FxMasterz:
This thread bears a complete message for anyone who is sincerely looking to be saved. The language is simple and the explanations are clear. You've almost summarised the entire gospel message in very few sentences. God bless your soul.
Any riped soul would be reaped into salvation with this. I pray God that all who are lost, over whose soul the devil currently rejoices, would come in contact with your message here, and their eyes being opened, would find their liberty from satanic bondages and be set on a path towards a glorious eternity.
You've done a great task, God bless you real my brother. Please allow the Holy Spirit again to use you to write out God's salvation plan as captured in the Bible. We'll be earnestly waiting to be blessed again by it.
Do not mind those who oppose themselves. Their likes have always been, and would continue to be. No matter what we do, those who would be saved would be saved, and those who'll be damned would be damned.
You can see someone like Mrcodesolo, in spite of the clarity of the message you presented here, went and brought Bible verses out of context in order to use lies to obliterate the truth. Knowing fully well in himself, while typing those scriptures that he was deliberately deceiving some ignorant folks who do not know the full context of what he posted.
Allow legalwolf to ask you his questions, who knows what God could do through him. No matter the insult he hauls your way, God doesn't reject anyone, and no devil can stop anyone whose time of salvation has come. Paul was far worse than legalwolf in his attacks against the gospel.
The question you poised to antichristian is a great question. 'What would you say to me if I have just 5mins to live...' I really want to see his answers to that question.
Oh, how the devil works to blind the hearts of man from seeing how deeply God loves them. Rather than accept the love, they even insult the Lover.
I'm sure that you do all you do here out of love for perishing souls. They would never see it as such, rather, they see it as a attacks. It's the devil's tactics. Nevertheless, we would never cease loving, for so we are commanded. It is our sole responsibility to rescue those that are perishing because God loves all sinners, and that's why He gave all men the opportunity to be cleansed through Jesus, so that all men could have eternal access to Him and to His throne in paradise for all eternity.
God bless you real my brother. I was really so blessed by this thread today.

LegalWolf:
Lol, what do mean by “teach” ehn TenQnih the future thief? 😝

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ,

I have gone through this topic previously and I think I have a little bit of time to spare. I have few questions to ask. Or a couple of them if you will like to. PLEASE DO NOT STRAY AWAY from them like the stray advocatejare. Are you willing to answer them ?

LegalWolf:
Lol, it is a simple Yes or No question, Lawrence TenQnih

Again, are you insinuating that Mutah was not existing before Islam, ehn TenQnih the future thief?

LegalWolf:
LOL, if yhwh teaches that prostitution or colt should be stolen, I will agree as to that. But God teaching Mutah? Please tell me more Lawrence TenQnih the future thief

LegalWolf:
Lol! Are you insinuating that Mutah was not existing before Islam, ehn TenQnih the future thief

LegalWolf:
Animals go 'crazy' as well. Even fictionally, there is a literal work called the gods must be crazy. So why can't yhwh be insane? Ehn TenQnih the future thief?



Heheheh TenQnih the future thief

LordviccoDaGuru:
Source https://twitter.com/VictorG63538936/status/1620526186278559744?t=1TUn9dTGZMezKzW6puPsvA&s=08[/quote]If a thousand Nigerians die tragically, this same man will not be aware!

LegalWolf:
LOL, lawrence TenQnih the future thief hahahahah



Can you mention just two differences between your parent's marriage and mutah? Ehn Potential Thief

LegalWolf:
Lol, holy ghost bears me witness that yhwh may be insane

LegalWolf:
LOL, so I would worship a god that sucks blood huh? Or endorse rape, genocide and murder huh? if that is even acceptable, what about yhwh being weak?

really?

MaxInDHouse:
“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

God's presence is not everywhere for now but after Satan, demons, false prophets and faithless generation of people are no more God will turn His attention to mankind in general, that's why John saw the multitude standing in God's presence (before God's throne)

TenQ:
Standing in God's presence In heaven!

I'm sure you avoided reading it as usual


As reminder
Rev4:2 and Rev16:17
Of course, you read a different bible!

You fake doctrine cannot withstand any iota of inquisition or questioning: can you see how simple bible truths turn you into jellyfish?


Doesn't the scripture tell us exactly where this THRONE is

Rev 4:2:
"And immediately I was in the Spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."


Rev 16:17:
"And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."


Since Gods presence is EVERYWHERE and by your JW doctrine the Throne is NOT literal, where did you come up with the idea that only the 144,000 will be (specifically) in heaven?

LegalWolf:
LOOOOOL! A future thief is talking about slander? Really Lawrence TenQnih the future thief? yhwh bears me witness that even Oyenusi is a better and more honourable man than you can ever be!

LegalWolf:
LOL! TenQnih the future thief is 'suspecting'. LOL, is it the way it was suspected that a colt was in another town and it should be robbed? Ehn Lawrence TenQnih the potential armed robber?



Anyways, I love your tears. I have shared a clip with you and all I pray for is that you don't end up hanged. And if it happens, I have no sympathy

MaxInDHouse:
Standing before God's throne in that context means standing in God's presence!

MaxInDHouse:
OK nah!

LegalWolf:
Interesting! So you agree that Christianity is idol worship and you are an idol worshipper?

Although the pace may be slow, we are getting there, future thief Mr. Lawrence TenQnih 🤪🤪🤪🤪