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Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 6:17pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Lol

You guys never learn do you? When the Jews questioned Jesus, are you the Messiah and when he gave answer, did they follow him? Was he accepted as the one they are waiting for?

You see, when you ask question to ridicule and make jest, you are unwittingly going astray without knowing.

For your information .ore Jews actually followed and believe in the Prophet Mission and those who ask baseless and meaningless question were doomed.
Jesus gave the Jews ANSWERS for All their Question.

BUT
Did Mohammed know what a Spirit was?
It was a dreadfully simple Question!


My Question Again:

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 5:37pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
They knew and are still asking? And what have the Reprobates done with that knowledge? They know and they are still asking? How does that sound to you? They only come with their posers because they have a preconceived loses minded notions as such Allah rightly told His Prophet, the Knowledge is with Him and a little of what has been revealed to Mankind.

So, as you can see, God doesn't pander to Man's vain desires as yours.
A TEST TO CONFIRM IF MOHAMMED WAS TRULY A PROPHET:
Every prophet in the Torah speaks about the Spirit of God. , spirit of man and other kinds of spirits [/b]
The Jews knew the answer but they suspect that Mohammed the self acclaimed prophet doesn't know the answer.

Did Mohammed know the Answer?
NO!


Therefore the jews DID NOT Accept Mohammed as Prophet!
Since then, Mohammed had HATED the Jews!

BUT
BACK to the issue AT stake

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 5:23pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf,
You fled with respect to the Question:
Did Jubril stop being an Angel (momentarily)?

But AntiCHristian came to bail you out. BUT since you always love AntiChristians responses,

He said in response to the question:
AntiChristian:
He never stopped being an Angel.
In addition, Angels don't disobey the commands of Allah! They do exactly what they are commanded.
Now, my next Question:
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?

Forgive me for the explicit word: I am just copying what the Qur'an says
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 5:17pm On Feb 04, 2023
AntiChristian:
Allah never says that in the Qur'an i read! That's your Biblical analysis from Luke 1:35 you are using on the Qur'an.
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

1. What does "Come on you" mean?
2. episkiasei means to Overshadow or envelope aka tower above and cast a shadow over or appear more prominent or important than.
This is like having sex.
3. The end result now become son of God!

Then Allaah explains that the Rooh reached her womb, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of ‘Imraan who guarded her chastity. And We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Rooh [i.e. Jibreel (Gabriel)]”. [al-Tahreem 66:12]

The Arabic word "Farjah" can mean "Private part and also the sleeve of the Garment".
Farjah means Sleave of Garment!?
AntiChristian, when will you stop telling lies to cover other lies?

Quran 66:12
وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢

Lies are EASY to burst you know! LOL!!

What is the meaning of THIS : فَرْجَهَا
And What is THIS: فِيهِ

Is فَرْجَهَا the same as SLEEVE?
Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts, (i.e., safeguarded) so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.
— Dr. Ghali
Dr Ghali was sponsored by Christians, abi?
LOL!!

What you are telling me is that Mary guarded her SLEEVES and therefore, Jubril BLEW into THE SLEEVES!?
Alhaji AntChristian, tell Another lie!


SECONDLY, The Question was about Jubril who became a MAN

SO, Again, after bursting your lies

If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?

Forgive me for the explicit word: I am just copying what the Qur'an says




I am also jealously guarding my sleeves o!
LOL
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 5:01pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol, you are from being smart. I never asked you to assume anything about the creative power of Allah. You TENQ INITIALLY made reference to our sources, thereby presuming your familiarity with it!

You can answer the question I posed WITHOUT assuming anything about the creative power of God, can’t you?

Again, na you refer to KFK not me. So please answer the question by proving evidence as that would disentangle your argument and logic.

Lol! Potential Thief
LOL!
ANSWER THE SIMPLE QUESTION

Are you tongue TIED?


LET ME SIMPLIFY THE QUESTION FOR YOU AS I SEE THAT FEAR IS CRIPPLING YOUR COHERENCE.
And I wished you answered my direct question before perambulating round the bush.

You made an assertion of the creative power of Allah by kun fayakun which I REJECTED and OBJECTED to. Until the huddle is crossed there is going nowhere.
Are you asking me to assume Allah created everything by Kun fayakun? NO SIR!


FINALLY A QUESTION TO CLARIFY EVERYTHING
I'm sure you'll dodge this as usual
If God tells the SUN not to Bring forth Light : Is that in the Preview of his kun faya kun or NOT?
YES or NO!



See, I've simplified the Question for you!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 4:53pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Always conflating issues

The Jews that asked about the Spirit, of what use would the answer be to them when like you have already have a preconceived notion of what they are asking?

Oga, if you like recite the Nicene Creed, non of my business. I deliver the message and move on.
Of course the Jews KNEW exactly what the Spirit was and like me, they asked Mohammed who of course didn't know the answer!


Do you think it makes sense for Allah to use a WORD like spirit in the Quran and yet people shouldn't ask what a spirit is?

BACK to the issue AT stake

Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul The Apostle Lied! He Contradicts Jesus True & Divine Message. by TenQ: 3:56pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL But FxMasterz, you and I all know that the Bible is (grossly, inherently and imperfecly) imperfect. Isn't it? That should make us all smile and be happy.

Looooool. Lawrence Anninih, oh TenQnih the future thief grin
The Bible is WRITTEN by MEN
BUT
THE QURAN is DIRECTLY from ALLAH


Is there any reason for comparison?
Book BY Allah vs Book BY Men



So therefore, we can TEST the validity of THE PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH
(Didn't Allah challenge Man and Jinn if it is possible to produce a chapter like the Quran?)

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"


For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 3:49pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Volume of words is irrelevant TenQnih,

Completely irrelevant. Provide us with a source where Kun fayakun was used in non-creation context. How simple can that be? If you do not, concede that that truly, kun fayakun is not used in context other than creation. Shikena!

All these cock and bull story is irrelevant. It doesn't make sense!
LET ME SIMPLIFY THE QUESTION FOR YOU AS I SEE THAT FEAR IS CRIPPLING YOUR COHERENCE.
And I wished you answered my direct question before perambulating round the bush.

You made an assertion of the creative power of Allah by kun fayakun which I REJECTED and OBJECTED to. Until the huddle is crossed there is going nowhere.
Are you asking me to assume Allah created everything by Kun fayakun? NO SIR!


FINALLY A QUESTION TO CLARIFY EVERYTHING
I'm sure you'll dodge this as usual
If God tells the SUN not to Bring forth Light : Is that in the Preview of his kun faya kun or NOT?
YES or NO!



See, I've simplified the Question for you!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 3:44pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Okay tell me what your ideal answer should be. Let us start from there.
LOL!
TWIST AND TURNS as USUAL

You are the Muslim: Why are you AFRAID to ANSWER a DIRECT QUESTION?
You are a lawyer : Are the Cautious specifically MUSLIMS?

Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
OR
Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are NOT the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72) These are Probably Christians! LOL!

Why are you AFRAID Mr LegalWolf?
Why naw!?
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul The Apostle Lied! He Contradicts Jesus True & Divine Message. by TenQ: 3:40pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL? Is it FxMasterz post I am responding to? Hahahahaha ?

And is it a potential thief that you expect me to spending my time explaining ethical concepts to? Oh mind you, remind me of the title of this post please? And tell me how it bears logical implication to your questions?

TenQnih the future thief. Hahahahahahaha grin
LOL!
cc: Potential Thief TenQ
Your strategy is that you want me to CHANGE the subject and spank you and Mohammed in return, but I wont.

Face the question:

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

BACK TO BUSINESS'

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"


For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 3:37pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
I am not run into away neither do I run away but you must show some willingness on your part to hold you hands up and say " I am mistaken' when you see better reason against your prejudices.

In this case and every other time, you have have failed to do so rather what you do, is ask another question and another question then another question.

At the end of the day, you open another thread and it is rinse and repeat all over again.

What a man of Faith do is to answer you as humanly possible and move on. So, if I decide to move on, it is not running away. Even Christ told his disciples to move on if they are not accepted. Dust your sand from your feet a d move on he says.
You know I've said it several times on this platform: there was a time I nearly recited the shahada and become a Muslim.
I stopped because i asked a few more questions about what I've read in the Quran and hadiths.
Peradventure, I I had met someone who would truthfully answer my questions, maybe I would have become a Muslim.

After this, I studied more and I have NOW more bigger and even much more questions than the first times: it isn't my fault. It is DESTINY!

I wish Moslems answer questions rather than TWIST and TURN

Like I asked before:
The Qur'an says:
Qur'an 19:18
Then We sent to her Our angel, ˹Gabriel,˺ appearing before her as a man, perfectly formed.

The Question again!

When Jubril came to Mary as a Man, did he STOP being an Angel?

DID YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?
NO!





So, back to my Questions"


Lets say I am confused according to you, isnt that the opportunity to answer my "confused questions" ?
If I dont ask questions, would I ever leave my state of being confused?

DON'T RUN AWAY PLEASE:
Does these questions unnerve you because they dont ask such in the Mosques?

Why are you Afraid of simple QUESTIONS?
If only you have been man enough to answer the questions, I would have respected your narrative but you choose to dodge as usual!.

Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" COMMAND of Allah or NOT?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" the WILL of Allah or NOT?
The Question Again:
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?
Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?

Why avoid this direct Question?







But
Crime › Re: Bees "Arrest" Ugandan Thief With Help Of A Voodoo Priest (Graphic Pictures) by TenQ: 3:26pm On Feb 04, 2023
officialwdhtv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M2Krus_rB4

Bees "arrest" professional thief in Uganda with help of a Voodoo priest😯😯😯

Who says voodoo isnt real?
Nothing special for the trained.

You will notice that the bees are NOT stinging him
AND
He is not making any attempt to get rid of them


There is NOTHING Juju about this!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMIu4fqi8jI
Here is Bee beard gone wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 3:13pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL! If the stray advocatejare twists words, that is fine. Or your rapist defending lawyer friends. that is also fine. I interpert words logically. I gave you what the text and hadith says - people who are cautious of Allah! Ce fini!
See your LIES and DECEPTIONS ABOUT TO MANIFEST


You are a lawyer prone to twisting words: Are the Cautious specifically MUSLIMS?


Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
OR
Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are NOT the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72) These are Probably Christians! LOL!


Why are you AFRAID Mr LegalWolf?
Why naw!?
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul The Apostle Lied! He Contradicts Jesus True & Divine Message. by TenQ: 3:10pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
LOL But FxMasterz, you and I all know that the Bible is (grossly, inherently and imperfecly) imperfect. Isn't it? That should make us all smile and be happy.

Looooool. Lawrence Anninih, oh TenQnih the future thief grin
CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

BACK TO BUSINESS'

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"


For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 3:03pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hehehehe LOL!
It seems you have lost track of your own argument. The evidence is clear that you cannot reason and your own argument is confusing you. First off, I was the one who asked a very simple question:

Please tell us where Kun fayakun was used in our sources outside the context of creating/creation .

Rather than reply to that question, you went on a frolic of your own to what we did not ask you by asking further questions I consider baseless and irrelevant. Remember, you were the first to raise KFK and I told you that verse is ONLY used in the context of creation.

You used the example because you think it is familiar to Muslims . Now we told you your usage is wrong in principle and logic and we have asked you to bring evidence to the contrary. Just one piece of evidence would shut us up!

All these 'Allah never created anything with KFK' is baseless to my question. So please do answer!
I think I enjoy you when I box you to the corner. Step by step. Please answer the first question and we will move to this
And I wished you answered my direct question before perambulating round the bush.

You made an assertion of the creative power of Allah by kun fayakun which I REJECTED and OBJECYTED to. Until the huddle is crossed there is going nowhere.
Are you asking me to assume Allah created everything by Kun fayakun? NO SIR!



The Question I asked is direct and simple:
1. Except you will prove me wrong, Allah NEVER created ANYTHING by "kun fayakun" or "BE."

Did Allah NEVER created ANYTHING by "kun fayakun" or "BE."?
Evidence please!

I said:
Are you implying that there are some commands of Allah that are powerless?
Is "BE" a command or NOT?
Is "BOW TO ADAM" a command or NOT?


Probably one set of command for creation and the other set of command for window dressing! LOL!!

AND I ASKED
Is kufayakun NOT the Command (not commandments) of God?
When Allah says to the Angels "bow down to Adam" was that his COMMAND/WILL or NOT?







FINALLY A QUESTION TO CLARIFY EVERYTHING
Im sure youll dodge this as usual
If God tells the SUN not to Bring forth Light : Is that in the Preview of his kun faya kun or NOT?
YES or NO!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:55pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Unnerve who?
You are confused. You don't even know what you want to ask? How can a confused fellow unnerve me? How?
Go thru your own thread, you will find answers provided by Muslims to your confusion.
Lets say I am confused according to you, isnt that the opportunity to answer my "confused questions" ?
If I dont ask questions, would I ever leave my state of being confused?

DON'T RUN AWAY PLEASE:
Does these questions unnerve you because they dont ask such in the Mosques?

Why are you Afraid of simple QUESTIONS?
If only you have been man enough to answer the questions, I would have respected your narrative but you choose to dodge as usual!.

Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" COMMAND of Allah or NOT?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" the WILL of Allah or NOT?
The Question Again:
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?
Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?

Why avoid this direct Question?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:51pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
100% it is belivers who are righteous that will be saved. Any problem?
You are a lawyer prone to twisting words: Are the Cautious specifically MUSLIMS?


Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:49pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Keep playing with words.
Not surprised, it is a Legacy bequeathed on you by the Greeks who want to rationalize everything. I can see that you have learnt well.
Continue.
Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?

The same dilemma Mohammed found himself when the Jews asked him a simple Question: "What is a spirit? "

Till tomorrow, we are still waiting for the answer from Mohammed!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:46pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
I am not afraid of any question even moreso coming from someone who honestly believe that Kun fa ya Kun can be disobeyed and counted as Sin ?
Lol
Oga, go and rest.
So why are you tongue tied to give a Honest answer to the Questions?

And I asked simple Questions (which unnerve Islamic narratives)

Why are you Afraid of simple QUESTIONS?
If only you have been man enough to answer the questions, I would have respected your narrative but you choose to dodge as usual!.

Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" COMMAND of Allah or NOT?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" the WILL of Allah or NOT?
The Question Again:
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?
Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?

Why avoid direct Question?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:41pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Lol

Is it "Conscious" or Cautious?
Im so sorry,
I can only use the translations provided by Muslims themselves as they translated their quran.

Quran 19:72
Then, We will save those who were cautious of Us, but the harmdoers shall be left there hobbling on their knees



Lets say I go with your translation and say
Quran 19:72
Then, We will save those who were cautious "Conscious" of Us, but the harmdoers shall be left there hobbling on their knees

And I revamp the Question to say "Conscious" instead of "Cautious" would you respond to the Question?


MY RESPONSE AGAIN:
I agree TOTALLY with the fact that, Those who are not cautious conscious of Allah are of cause non-Muslims
BUT

Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious Conscious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:34pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
There is nothing to avoid. You are confused. There is no crime in. Ring confused but when you have seen the explanation and still hold on to your confusion or kept repeating your confusion, then there is an issue.
And I asked simple Questions (which unnerve Islamic narratives)

Why are you Afraid of simple QUESTIONS?
If only you hae been man enough to answer the questions, I would have respected your narrative but you choose to dodge as usual!.

Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" COMMAND of Allah or NOT?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" the WILL of Allah or NOT?

The Question Again:
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?
Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?


Why avoid direct Question?
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul The Apostle Lied! He Contradicts Jesus True & Divine Message. by TenQ: 2:29pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Is it from a book that you acknowledge to be 'imperfect' that you expect me to place reliance on??

Abeg abeg!!!

cc: Potential Thief TenQ grin
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"


For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:16pm On Feb 04, 2023
Why are you Afraid of simple QUESTIONS?
Lukuluku69:
Lol
Clutching at straws. Bros, you are confused.
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" COMMAND of Allah or NOT?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" the WILL of Allah or NOT?

The Question Again:
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?
Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?


Why avoid direct Question?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:13pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
The question is simple but your answer is dodgy. So if I understand you correctly, you agree that “those who are not cautious of Allah” may (or are) not be Muslims?
I agree TOTALLY with the fact that, Those who are not cautious of Allah are of cause non-Muslims
BUT

Do you ALSO agree (concur) that those who are Cautious of Allah are the Muslims?
(As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 2:08pm On Feb 04, 2023
Your dodging game has began again!
LOL!!
SMH!!
LegalWolf:
LOL!
You are not talking to retar.ds in your church! My questions are very simple, even for imbe.ciles! And I want to assume your IQ is higher than theirs, or am I wrong in this assumption?
This is completely irrelevant to my question:
“Please tell us where Kun fayakun was used in our sources outside the context of creating/creation”


I did not ask you whether Allah created anything with KFK. The other two questions you asked are baseless. You raised the issue of KFK on the pretext that it is something familiar to us. Now we are asking you a very simple question. Please don’t conflate issues!
The Question I aske is direct and simple:
1. Except you will prove me wrong, Allah NEVER created ANYTHING by "kun fayakun" or "BE."

Did Allah NEVER created ANYTHING by "kun fayakun" or "BE."?
Evidence please!

LegalWolf:
to your question, I do not understand the context of ‘powerless’ that you mean. What I do know is:
a. KFK is used in the context of creation
b. Our God has created us and given us rules and code of conducts
c. If we violate that code of conduct, of course it is a and we will be punished
d. Our punishment is not hinged on blood being used to please God. Of course, God is not a blood sucking!
I said:
Are you implying that there are some commands of Allah that are powerless?
Is "BE" a command or NOT?
Is "BOW TO ADAM" a command or NOT?



Probably one set of command for creation and the other set of command for window dressing! LOL!!
LegalWolf:
Lol, you need a textbook on logic and a starting point I’ll recommend for you, if you’ll read, is Aristotle’s “Organon”.
I’m not implying that Allah’s command outside KFK is weak. Laws imposed on humanity are a different kind of laws with different consequences. Ce fini!
If you did government in school, you must have heard of constitutions, legislations, subsidiary legislations and bye-laws right? This assumes you went to a standard school!
Is kufayakun NOT the Command (not commandments) of God?


When Allah says to the Angels "bow down to Adam" was that his COMMAND/WILL or NOT?

Im sure youll dodge this as usual
If God tells the SUN not to Bring forth Light : Is that in the Preview of his kun faya kun or NOT?
YES or NO!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 1:54pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
It is no longer Kun fa ya Kun? Lol

If you read that in the Quran, then it is what I believe.

So?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" COMMAND of Allah or NOT?
Is the phrase "Kun fa ya Kun" or "BE" the WILL of Allah or NOT?

The Question Again:
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?
Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?


Why avoid direct Question?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 1:51pm On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
Lol!

So it is correct that Q19:71 is referring to all humans (clear reference to preceding :68). I think that answers the question and you should get the memo. Or your so daft that you’ll want me to expatiate?

I will If you request.

1. Then means then in simple English
2. It is those who are cautious of HIM. We don’t need to say evidence of receipt that a life is taken or any balderdash. The words explains itself.
3. Those who are cautious of Allah.

Any problem?
Accepted!
Is it TRUE that those who are Cautious of Allah are Muslims? (As referenced in Quran19:71-72)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 1:49pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Still at a loss?

Command and Will.

Well, some can be and some can not.

The Command for Creation, can't be violated because there are beings that carry out God's Command without any hesitations. The Command "Be" can't be violated as the creation around you is a testament for that.

As for God's Will, He Alone knows it safe what He has communicated of it to us humans thru His Prophets.

The Commandments which in it's true interpretations ought to have read " Laws/Ordinances" are what we as Free willed Creations can go against.

As you can see, you TENQ can lie, kill, give false witness, steal and all sorts despite Jehovah expressly COMMANDS against.

And as Jesus prayed " thy WILL be done on Earth" God's WILL here signifies the whole of Mankind worshipping Him ALONE as it is DONE in Heavens

ABI make I talk am for Latin for you to understand?
Are you saying that the command of Allah is NOT the Will of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 12:00pm On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Lol

Always all over the place. Conflating, confusing stuff like Iya Elewa Adalu.

Kun fa ya Kun can't be violated nah. Are you this confused?

If yôu sin God can forgive you once it is sincere. He doesn't need to kill anyone one for that.

Like I said, there are hundreds of verses that confirm the abode of true and sincere worshippers of Allah. I know you must have come across them but like a diseased heart, you choose to ignore those verses.

If you think you can live a life of debauchery, lies, hatred and bigotry and Five minutes to giving up, you can call on the blood of any one to save you, bros, you are Deluded and living in Delusion.

The command on worship, lying, stealing etc are what you can go against but not the command God gave for creation. LoL

This dude is so confused.
Is it true that Allah COMMANDED his Angels to Bow Down to Adam and Iblis (satan) REFUSED?

Was this command the WILL of Allah or NOT?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 11:57am On Feb 04, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Wa Alaikum Salam Akhi,

Walahi we have been blessed with patience!

To engage someone who thinks that the Command " Kun fa ya Kun" can be violated by humans! Lol
.
My 13 year old burst out laughing when I told him about it.

But we have to keep engaging perchance they reflect.

Salam Alaikum...
Can the command and Will of Allah be violated?

Yes or No!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel Explained For Muslims by TenQ(op): 11:56am On Feb 04, 2023
LegalWolf:
The question is simple but your answer is dodgy. So if I understand you correctly, you agree that “those who are not cautious of Allah” may (or are) not be Muslims?
My answer was extremely clear. You said: Yes or No!

My Response: CAPITAL YES!
Didn't you ask for a Yes or No answer? LOL


YES, All Muslims with those who are not cautious of Allah will be in hell fire


I followed up with

Now answer mine!

Quran 19:72
Then, We will save those who were cautious of Us, but the harmdoers shall be left there hobbling on their knees

1. What does the "then" in Vs 73 mean
2. Who is Allah refering to as "who were cautious of Us"?
3. If the harm doers are left in the fire, who are the ones REMOVED from the fire?
Christianity Etc › Re: When Jubril Came To Mary, Was He A Man Or An Angel? by TenQ(op): 11:03am On Feb 04, 2023
AntiChristian:
1. If Jubril Didn't see an Angel...

What does this your rant above mean?
Thanks for the correction please

If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?

Forgive me for the explicit word: I am just copying what the Qur'an says

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