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raumdeuter:
Below are the players who started the 2006 CL final under Rijkaard

Valdes
Oleguer
Puyol
Marquez
Van Bronckhorst
Edmilson
Deco
Van Bommel
Guily
Etoo
Ronaldinho

3years later when Pep made his own CL final and won the treble. In the final game

Only Valdes Puyol and Etoo were left 3 out of 11

Yet they are telling us he met a ready made team at Barcelona. Keep on lying

Now he has gone to City and accepted the challenge to win the league, WHy cant Mourinho fans accept the same instead of giving excuses all over

Pep fans have not given excuses here. Mourinho fans are the ones giving excuses like lets see who they buy, Mourino have nothing to prove, bla bla

What does this mean? You rushed to go and bring out the team sheet of the final of UCL of that year. Does it mean that it`s only these eleven players that played all the matches throughout that season? Where`s Xavi and Iniesta? Or were they not part of the team then? Was that the full team list for that season? The way you reason at times ehn.....
My question is why didn`t he qualify for UCL final in his three years with Bayern if he was so good? I`m sure he would`ve done that if he had Messi in that team.

I`ve told you it`s Pep who needs to come and prove himself. It`s Pep`s overated competence that`s at stake here, not his rivalry with Mourinho.

jstbeinhonest:
Stop spewing trash,'smart' manure fan.Barca went trophyless 06/07 &07/08....Pep Joined Barça 08/09.

What`s so special about going trophyless for two seasons. They went trophyless for four seasons before Rijkaard came and started the revolution. Rijkaard even did his with a lesser quality team.

AdeLaNa1:
Stop sounding like a fûcking illiterate. Pep last won UCL in 2011. So tell me how 2016-2011 is 4??

Lol. SAF is lazy? True laziness is running from one club to the other. And from one sugar daddy to the other when things get tough for u. Let Pep stay in one place for 10 yrs at least and guide dat team to consecutive titles if he can.

Mind u, United was an inferior English team until SAF came along and transformed us to serial winners and an European Elite. Saying SAF would get kicked out if he went to another team is just ludicrous.

If Fergie is a failure, then Pep is equally a failure. 5 yrs and no UCL trophy. A local champion who could only bully clubs like Leverkusen and Monchengladbach to successive Bundesliga titles.

Pep Guardiola is the laziest coach i`ve ever known in my life. He always want to benefit from the labour of others. What he benefited from the Barca team was the foundation laid down by Rijkaard. There was a time when Barca went trophyless for four good seasons before Rijkaard was employed. Rijkaard turned around the team and won the league in his second season and third season. He also won UCL in his third season. All these he did with no contribition from Messi. Rijkaard gave Messi his debut in the senior team. Rijkaard was the first Barca coach to beat R. Madrid twice at Barnebeu.

Pep succeeded Rijkaard and stumbled on Messi that was about to mature after Rijkaard had laid the foundation for him in the team and won two UCL with Messi`s major influence. He sensed that he`s going to have problem with the team because his tactical inept of no 'plan b' to his tiki-taka with teams packing the bus was coming to the fore, then he took the easier route by announcing he was going on a sabbatical.

This is where his lazinness as a coach comes in. After being beaten by Chelsea in UCL and he knew that R. Madrid was going to win the La Liga. He made this statement as reason he`s leaving Barca "But gradually, i found it more and more difficult to motivate myself and the team. That is when you know it is time to take a walk" That is LAZINNESS written all over the statement. That`s the laziest statement i`ve ever heard from a young coach for that matter. He couldn`t stay motivate and build a team. This is what SAF did successfully over the years.

Pep went to Bayern and met a team that just won the treble and a team that had appeared in three of the last four finals. He couldn`t take such a good team past the semifinals in his three seasons there. Why couldn`t he replicate what he previously did at Barca at Bayern if he`s such a coaching genius? I guess it`s because there was no Messi in his team.

olabode89:
Hehehehe... badman... he has swallowed a humble pill for the gaffe... forgive him.

No mind the guy jare. I didn`t even know you too pointed that out already.

It`s the way Barca fans overate him like he`s a super coach that i don`t really get. Personally, i don`t have anything against Pep. I like him as a coach.

ollah1:
Your comment is full of flaws. Pep won consecutive leagues with Barca B while playing attractive football. This was what made him get the get the job on a trial level but he wowed everybody. Pre Pep, Barca went two years winning nothing. He won every avaliable trophies in his first year yet he doesn't deserve the credit. It's the team that deserves it. The same team which he built 80% of it.

He took over a Bayern team which just won the UCL but what happened to the core attacking players? They went on injury spree and they are aged at the moment. He left the team in a good state with young promising players . He lost to three Spanish teams, two of which became champions eventually while we await the third tonight.

No team would have defeated Barca last season. Only his team got a win the knock out stage. Every other team and yes the defending champion of "the best league in the world " got schooled home and away.

Another overate or what? Where and when did Pep win consecutive leagues with Barca B team? How many seasons did Pep spend as Barca B team coach? Or does "consecutive" have another meaning?

raumdeuter:
Suddenly there is no rivalry between Pep and Mourinho

Suddenly only Pep has something to prove Mourinho has nothing to prove

I accept Pep has to win rather we see mourinho fans giving excuses that he doesnt have to win because he has nothing to prove

If he has nothing to prove, he can decline the job and go to where he has something to prove

A coach sacked 5months ago and hired doesnt have anything to prove again? Hypocrisy must be spelt as T-E-S-S

Whether you like it or not, we`ll be waiting to assess Pep at the end of next season. Mind you, I am not a Mourinho fan.

Any coach can be sacked at any time, it doesn`t change anything not even when such a coach is a SERIAL WINNER. Mourinho has won the EPL in an average of every two years. Let Pep win it in his first season.

Was your new coach Ancelotti not sacked at both Chelsea and Real Madrid? Does that stop big clubs looking for his signature? Chelsea sacked him but that doesn`t stop Madrid from employing.

You are only bringing the rivalry issue to save face for him when he fails.

raumdeuter:
This is the bullshiitt excuse we are talking about

Its time for both to prove themselves and we are now hearing Mourinho has nothing to prove. I didnt know Mourinho fans are cowards

I am a Pep fan and I accept the challenge. I am asking Mourinho fans to take the challenge and all we hear is that he doesnt have anything to prove again. A man that was sacked 5 months ago doesnt have anything to prove

Then why did he take the job if he has nothing to prove

You are the coward here. No one is talking about the rivalry between the two but you. I guess you are already anticipating your Pep may fail to win the league in his first season and you are now bringing these excuses and diversionary tactic up. We'll surely assess him at the end of the season.

Did anybody say Mourinho failed when he came back to Chelsea and didn't win the league? No. That's because they surely knew that he'll still win it because he's done it before and he could still do it.

No story, Pep must prove himself in the coming season.

raumdeuter:
This is hilarious. Man Utd is hiring Mourinho the most expensive coach the most decorated coach and he has nothing to prove. He isnt expected to win

See the people giving excuses now.

Let both win and be judged on the same level now we are hearing Mourinho doesnt have to win, Its only Pep who has to win something

I am glad Mourinho signed as it has exposed so many hypocrisy around here

Mourinho won first season in Italy and Portugal but he doesnt have to win in ENgland

which other excuse again?

Like i said earlier, he has nothing to prove in the EPL. He has won the thrice in six seasons or lesser. He won it consecutively in his first two seasons. Let Pep come and prove himself in the EPL. It is as simple as that and we are waiting for him.

How has Mourinho not won it in England?

diggz:
Gbam!

Though the number of league titles for mou is three bro.

Yeah, that was a mistake and i've edited it. Thanks

raumdeuter:
Which excuses

Tell us why we cant expect Miurinho to win next season

You are the ones coming with the excuse

I expect Pep to win and I also expect Mourinho to win whoever doesnt win has failed

AGREED?

Mourinho has nothing to prove in EPL again because he has won the league thrice and also won it in his first season in the league. This is not about the rivalry of the two. Pep is coming into the EPL for the first time and he'll be given money to buy his kind of players to upgrade the ones he meets on ground. So he has to win it in his first season to show to us that he's not overrated. Afterall, he's done that in La Liga and Bundesliga.

NO EXCUSES & NO DIVERSION TO MOURINHO RIVALRY.

Dadehmola:
Those excuses are annoying!!

The moment he brought up the issue, i knew that's the direction he was going.

Emaprince:
Pellegrini won the league in his first season, he reached the CL semi last season. Pep should replicate these feats or remain FRAUDIOLA forever!!!

Excuses have started for Pep in case he doesn't win it in his first season. Mourinho have done that in the past. Let's see if Pep can also do it. If he does it good for him.

Rashhhhhhfooord just scored for England

raumdeuter:
Man utd werent going to CL when they attracted Di Maria, Shaw

Monaco werent playing CL when they attracted Falcao, James

Bayern wasnt playing Cl when they attracted Klose Lucatoni and Ribery

i am not sure Liverpool was playing CL when they attracted Suarez

When Mourinho delivered at first attempt he took a team who just finished 2nd in the league and a team who no one in Europe could match their financial power

Why can`t Pep do it first time in EPL since he`s done the same in both La Liga and Bundesliga?

Dadehmola:
Shut up oga!!

In one breathe, you explicitly implied that L.V.G has been living in a hole (for considering Di Maria as world class).

In another breathe, you tried to exonerate your mentor by telling us told us he "thought" the Argentine was World class.


If dem question your sanity now, you go begin dey vex.

As regards your typically iđiotic rants in defence of that clueless mentor of yours, you should really know when to tape it shut!

You forgot to add that "LVG thought Di Maria was playing as a winger when he looked fantastic for Real Madrid" Meaning that LVG didn`t know Di Maria`s best playing position before he bought him.

Dadehmola:


Van Gaal "thought" Di Maria was playing as a winger at Madrid at that time?

You mean your mentor was that clueless and ignorant ??


Now this is getting interesting..

I got attack of hiccups when i read a coach "thought". If LVG as a coach didn`t know, how then did he (@kagawa10) know?

A coach didn`t know but kagawa10 knows.. This is really interesting.

We should`ve employed this guy as our coach instead of going for Mourinho.

Man Utd photographer Craig Norwood just confirmed Mourinho by tweeting "Jose will get his dream of managing Manchester United"

"Mourinho along with his agent Jorge Mendes will meet again with Ed Woodward in the next 48hrs to finalise his management contract at MUFC."

"One thing is for sure, with Mourinho managing MUFC, we`ll be even more hated by every other club & supporter."

elrony:
Are you crazy? ...you don't know that it was Christian Chukwu dat signed him!!!!

Lol!

I don`t understand this rhetoric that Van Gaal didn`t sign Herrera and Shaw. Who then signed them?

Congratulation to the team for winning this FA Cup after how many years. Also, special congratulation to Wayne Rooney for winning his fisrt FA Cup in his career. The only missing trophy in his club career.

Diademk07:
Lol!
Were they worldclass players to begin with?
Were they even international players for their national team in the case of Herrera or Depay who's been awful for his national team?
You are in real delusion!

It`s you who is deluded. How was Schneiderlin playing for Southampton before we bought him? He was one of the reasons they didn`t concede much last season. Where is he now and how`s he playing? LVG is the main problem of this team. Out of eleven players yesterday, only Martial was outstanding.

Diademk07:
Lol!
He started 12 games which includes the games he has recently played whereas Herrera had started 17 league games in total.
The truth is Fellaini hardly started at the start of the season.

And how many games have we won we he started? Fellaini starting doesn`t guarantee us wining when we have lost 5 out of the twelve he started the same number of games lost when Herrera have started

Nobody is saying Herrera is a world class but telling us we are better in games with Fellaini is totally wrong. Like i said, all the players were poor yesterday bar Martial. I`m not going to crucify any player under LVG untill we have a better coach.

Elxandre:
Don't mind them.

Rooney was as poor going forward as a championship player.
This guy can't even make one decent intelligent pass, but only simple passes.

Just look at that guy that made that dumb clearance that led to the first goal.

The whole team was poor. (Rojo seems irredeemable though)
....................................

It's easy to insult players though, but we forget that if these players were so bad, they wouldn't have been in United in the first place.

Just look at Klopp beating strong teams in Europe with the same washed up team everyone all wrote off after a disastrous start to the season.

A useless coach, LVG that couldn't even stand up to motivate his players in a must win clash.

I refuse to criticize players much till this man is gone!

Exactly my point as well. Players that performed well in their teams before being bought are now woefull. He doesn`t even know his first eleven. I am not going to judge any player under LVG. I`ve said it before and will keep on saying it, we need another coach.

Diademk07:
Lol!
Fellini hardly played this season. The midfield mostly consisted Bastian, Morgan and Herrera but then, Herrera was simply shite!

We hardly played Fellaini this season and he has 18 apps and started 12 games and we only won 3 of those games. We would`ve lost with Fellaini.
The whole team were not up for the game bar Martial.

elampiro:
Fellaini is situational player. He would have been useful today.

You are correct on our poor game in first half. It's like we were nervous. It was horrible.

Fellaini would only be able to take on only one player during set piece while other players will still do the damage like they did in this match.

You remember the match against Leicester i think. Fellaini was in the wall when he`s supposed to be the one handling Wes Morgan who was more than Rojo.

Blind and Rojo were useless aerially. Fellaini wouldn`t have been able to save us when most of our defenders were grabbing rather than wathching the ball and contest for it.

There was this situation where some defenders were grabbing Carrol and as low as the ball dropped he was still able to head the ball. They were really not concentrated.

Diademk07:
The team has been quite better with Fellaini this season. We all saw the change in our performance against Leicester as soon as he was subbed off for Herrera in the second half.

Lol. How has our team been better with Fellaini this season when there was a time in this same season we lost most matches he started for us.
Fellaini is the most indisciplined of all our midfielder coupled with his sluggish play. I am so sure he would`ve gotten a yellow card at least in this match if he was available. You just feel like scapegoating Herrera when most of our player were really not into the game.

The first 20 minutes our defenders couldn`t play from the back, including Blind that we believe has been our best passer of the ball in our defence. They were just punting the balls forward and we played into Westham`s hand by making so many wrong passes in the process.

Diademk07:
He's been our second best players in the past few games dating from the Westham replay match. He was far better than that donkey, Herrera who was shite in that same match.

As if past few games translates to the whole season. I`ve said it that even if Fellaini played today, we`ll still lose this match because the whole team bar Martial didn`t play well. People were saying Carrick should be brought in, what happened after he was brought in? Was it Herrera that told the defenders not to defend set piece well?

Diademk07:
Where is that guy who was questioning how Felliani is our second best midfielder after Carrick? I'm quite sure we would have won if Fellaini had played. His movement, aggressiveness, ariel threats and noses for goal would have seen us win the game at all cost.
It's so sad when an average player like Fellaini is still our best midfielder after Carrick.

Tell me how Fellaini is our best is our second best midfielder. As if we`ve not lost games with Fellaini. Fellaini can`t stop us from losing this match today. His fouls would`ve been worst.

Kagawa10:
Lol!
All you told us is that in his last season at Bilbao, he had the highest assists. Was it in his team or in the league? You failed to tell us that. You're really one funny dude!
Abegi, I don't have time for all this.

Kindly differentiate between "at Bilbao" and "in La Liga". Are these two phrases the same thing?

Note that you just told another lie that i said he had the highest "assist". Where did i say that.

You`ve just confirmed again that you are a perpetual liar.

There`s no point continuing with this because you`ll later bring another lie up.

Kagawa10:
Lol!
You kept on shouting lies this, lies that[b] but I don't even know what lies you are talking about it[/b]. At first I asked you, was it for his team or in the league and the obvious answer from any normal person would have been "in his team" but you didn't and were going roundabout about Messi, Fabregas and Isco. Lol!
Just accept that you goofed and I even gave you a chance to redeem yourself by asking you a simple question but you were just throwing tantrums.

You are still dancing azonto round the lie you told in print. Okay, this is the lie i was talking about.

Kagawa10:
You never made mention of whether it was in the legue or his team! That was why I asked you if the stat was in comparism with others in the la liga or in his team but then you were going roundabout!
I mentioned Messi due to the question I asked you by the way.
That said, for a player who creates 1.6 keypasses per game in the no 10 role, that's so awful.

tess1:
You no know ball in @elampiro's voice.

Herrera having sideways passes when stats showed that he had the second highest number of key passes and highest number of through balls in his last season at Bilbao. Does that add up? Or was he playing as a winger from the number 10 position he played then? Does that add up? You don't even know why he was the most rated player in that team. All you know of a number 10 is his assists without thinking of the quality of striker that is playing in front of him. Though, i'm not surprised that you don't even know that through balls are usually forward passes.

Abeg, go find something else doing. You no know ball at all.

I still maintain it that you are a perpetual liar. Continue looking for a way out by continuing lying.

SailorXY:
Just look @ elampiro screenshots of top performers from whoscored.com.
RvP appeared the season SAF left, the next he disappeared.
Fellaini appeared before he was signed, disappeared from then on.
Schneiderlin appeared before he was signed, he's disappeared since then.
I'm sure di Maria & Memphis appeared in their various leagues before they came here, where are they?

& now we still dey talk about Kante & Mahrez. Abeg we should get serious with the management aspect first else we'd just be fooling around for eternity.

It`s obvious and it`s the same most of us here have been saying that we have coaching problem. And that`s why most fans have been clamouring for change of manager. Even if we sign Messi with LVG still the manager, he`ll underperform. This man`s player and team management is totally outdated.

I`m not expecting anything from this team untill LVG is sacked.

Kagawa10:
Lol!
You can't even comprehend what you posted!
You mentioned that "he had the highest throughball in his last season at Bilbao". Tell me then where it was stated that it was in the league or for his team. All you told us is that in his last season at Bilbao, he made the highest throughball. Is it for his team or in the league? We do not know!
The statement should have been "he was the one with the highest through ball made in his team in his last stint at Bilbao".
And lol at 1.6 keypasses per game isn't bad for a no 10.

Hahahaha!!! See this primary six boy trying to teach me how to construct a simple sentence because he`s trying to save face after his lies. This is what you resort to after you`ve been found out.