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Diademk07:
Whatever! He's a rubbish player.

I knew you'd avoid the question. This shows that you just hate the player for no reason(s) the way you hate some other players.

That's exactly why I asked that question.

Diademk07:
Depay would always be the first choice or did you expect Depay to be benched without giving any look first.

Abeg, I don't have time for all these back and forth with you. hardly anyone would disagree with Van gaal tendency of blooding in youth.

How about Blcakett? What of Martial?
Abegi.

That's exactly my point that if Depay didn't disappoint he wouldn't have used him. It wasn't as if it was in his plan to start using him.

Blackkett was as a result of injuries to lot of players. Shaw wasn't match fit when he was bought.

He bought Martial who was already a part of Monaco squad and he was an expensive buy.

You have not answered my question about a number 10's key passes.

Diademk07:
And what was the team on display then?

We had Blind, Mcnair, CBJ and Varela in defence. Infact, Bournemouth scored through a setpiece.

And if you actually followed the discourse, you would note Bailley as the man of the match and Ibra brilliance.

Was Phil Jones not on the bench? Why didn't he start him if he was fit to be on the bench?

That still doesn't say we should lose that match cos SAF has fielded worse defence the past and we still won.

Diademk07:
Lingard had a lengthy injury and when he returned, he would still need to recuperate as he didn't get to integrate in the team. It would be a different case if he was already playing lot of matches before he got injured. I think he even got injured on his first game.

BTW, you should know Martial is a Youth yet was signed by Van gaal. And don't forget the likes of Blackett that was a starter until he looked out of his depth. Van gaal always blood in youth. That's one thing that can't be disputed.

A player that has played preseason for two years with the senior team and has gone on loan spell severally doesn't need to go on loan again because of injury if LVG was really ready to play him.

He didn't also start playing him until November last year which also shows that if he didn't have issue with Depay, he wouldn't have started using him.

Diademk07:
I don't think you got me so well.

I stated that the tactic prevented us from conceding a lot with all those rubbish players. There's no way we could look good with those rubbish players BTW.

And that was why I used the Bournemouth game as an example. We had roughly the same players that played under Van gaal in that game for example but then, we looked shite in every department whether going forward or in the middle. Fortunately, Bournemouth had a shite defence that made a lot of mistake to gift us goals.

Don't forget Bailley was our man of the match. We were quite open through the middle and still looked shite going forward as well.

Van Gaal tactic at least made us compact through the middle because he knows the players weren't good enough. That's why I would say it wasn't the tactic but the shite players because regardless of the tactic, they all looked shite going forward, especially through the middle as seen in the Bournemouth game.

We looked rubbish in every department but we beat them as against last season when they beat us with all the possession we had.

The same Bournemouth defence that you called shit defence was the same defence that we couldn't break down last season.

Diademk07:
Which potential?

Didn't Babel and Dirk Kuyt look good in the Dutch league?

Schneiderlin on the other hand is a defensive box-box CM. The last time he operated as a DM, Southampton almost got relegated in the league. Nobody told them to bring in Wanyama the next season.

As for Herrera, don't let me even start on him. 1.5keypasses as a no 10 tells all the story. Can't believe I accepted one eediotic basque man (Txrt) claim on the other forum that Herrera was better than Koke. He was even calling me names for suggesting we go for Koke who had 16mil release clause at that time which was lot cheaper than Herrera.

He had 1.6 passes which was still okay. If you say that's not good enough, what number of key passes will make a number 10 decent?

Diademk07:
Lingard got injured though. However, the likes of Blackett, Reece were giving playing time but they weren't good enough.

Why then didn't he use him after he came back from injury if he was really serious about giving him play time instead of letting him go out on loan again?

Then eph12 was right that he had no choice but to use him the last season which any coach would've done.

Diademk07:
What?

Lingard that was in our squad in Van Gaal 1st season not until his injury while he was on pitch.

And don't make laugh at Mourinho would have brought in Rashford. You mean the same man that brought in Adebayor on loan to Madrid when he was short of strikers?

BTW, Van gaal has always been a coach who was looking to blood in youth. The likes of Micheal keane, Blackett, Reece were thrust into the first team squad until they all looked inept.

Which Lingard was in our first team in LVG's first season? How many games did he play during that season?

Leroy Sane played regularly in the Schalke team towards the end of last season.

Mourinho: "I have so many good players. I arrive in the dressing room after the match and I was happy but then I become sad. I arrive there & all the other guys are there in their nice Paul Smith suit but not a tracksuit, not playing, not even on bench. So when I look to @Memphis, @carras16 and @PhilJones4, all these guys I don't select. I am desperate for September."

Yesterday's match was good but there's room for improvement.

We are now more compact in the midfield and the defence. Unlike before when an opposition player will just run through our midfield to the defence like when you put a hot knife through butter.

Intensity and ball transition are improving. Not the type of drowsy play we witnessed under LVG who cherishes possession over winning.

Players are now playing with a lot of freedom and enjoyment. One can see the happiness brimming through the team.

Play will definitely improve as games increase. When I looked at our bench yesterday, it was so strong. Substitution can be made without a drop in the standard of our play. Not to talk of those that were not in the team.

Mourinho has really improved this team. It shows that he really watched our matches last season and knew exactly the first choice players he needed to improve our game. This is a total turn around.

Double post

Diademk07:
The koko be Fellaini was the DM yet he still made more vertical passes than the Spanish cleverly.

Vertical passes in defensive areas! Not different from the type our defenders made.

Diademk07:
t you bring out his match highlight as well? You
I never said open up the opposition defence. I sid open up the opposition.
A vertical pass or flick through the middle opens up the opposition faster than the sideways passes of Herrera.

I hardly criticise Fellaini in the same way I hardly praise his performance. I wouldn't even have mentioned Herrera if people hadn't come up with He was good in the match nor would I've even sing Fellaini praise if the argument of Herrera performance didn't start.

Where did he open the opposition? In the middle of the pitch, in our own half or where?

In one breath you said he makes vertical passes, in another you said he always tries to make vertical passes which is the reason he's often criticised for the poor passes he sometimes made which simply means those vertical passes were poor.

This simply means most of his passes are not incisive but simple passes.

Herrera still make more of those incisive passes than Fellaini. He has always been good at that and that's what reflected in his key passes and through balls stats during his last season at Bilbao.

Elxandre:
Elampiro, this guy say Rooney header na Tap in!

Stop checking live scores under canopy, you no go gree.

I like how you downplay Ibra's goal.
But when was the last time any United striker score from 30 yards?

Exactly. If it were to be under LVG, Zlatan will still pass that ball back to Martial who was trying to draw away some players with his movement.

Diademk07:
And we didn't rely on Bournemouth mistake to break through? Clap for yourself.

One goal was a mistake from the opposition defender.
Another was a mishit cross/shot that got tapped in by Rooney.
The third was a 30 yards goal.

Not to mention we were often dominated in the middle while our defender was the man of the match.

Lol! If there are no mistakes in the game of football, how then will there be goals? Are players meant to just be moving the ball around without looking for who will make mistakes? Goals scored are mostly as results of mistakes.

Diademk07:
Fellaini was often better than Herrera under Van gaal, especially during our late top 4 run before his ban and he was also fantastic in our run in the FA cup win.

His movement is quite good and he always tries to make vertical passes which is the reason he's often criticised for the poor passes he sometimes made but at least he tried to open up the opposition unlike the spanish Cleverley.

And on his day, his defensive work and ariel duel are notable in the match.

Hear yourself speak " he always tries to make vertical passes which is the reason he's often criticised for the poor passes he sometimes made"

On the same person you said was making incisive passes to open opposition defence.

How many games did we win with Fellaini under LVG apart from the late cup runs?

Even at EURO16, the only match he started he was useless that the coach had to bench him in the remaining matches.

Which pass(es) did he use to open up Bournemouth?

All his passes have been safe passes that are not different from Cleverley's passes. Tell me how many long/ambitious passes he made in matches that will be incisive enough to open opposition defence.

Also, why didn't you criticize Fellaini when he was useless against Leicester? Why didn't you bring out his match highlight as well? You're just a vindictive person.

As for me in that game, the two of them complemented each other and they both played well.

Vanquay16:
Are you slow or what? Fellaini was the one playing deeper, Herrera was supposed to be the one making incisive passes along with No 10 Rooney.


He had a decent game and enforced his physicality on the midfield. Herrera was often pressed and couldn't even make the expected passes asked of him.

Why don't you dial the thread back you will find my comments if you need it.

So, when they were attacking Fellaini always hold back or what? He didn't even move beyond up to the centre circle to be able to make a key pass.

Who was Herrera lofted a ball into the 18 yard box, who was he looking for if Fellaini was playing deeper? I can mention so many of that. They were both going forward and swapping positions.

You said Herrera was often pressed but he was able to lay a through ball to Valencia to open up Bournemouth's left back.

He was also able to make a pass to Martial which couldn't control well.

How many key passes did Fellaini make in the match?

Vanquay16:
Fellaini and Herrera are both shit_ but at least he has strength and contributed more defensively and I bounced on Fellini in the Leicester match so your argument doesn't hold up.

Stories. You can't even answer a simple question.

How many key passes did Fellaini that played on the same level with Herrera played if you are rubbishing the only one Herrera made? You've still not answered the question.

Show me where you 'bounced' on Fellaini in the Leicester game.

Diademk07:
My major point is neither is good.

And when a limited player like Fellaini consistently outshone you in the midfield, high time you realised you aint the sh!t!

However it's Fellaini that always gets plenty of the stick while Herrera gets away with the ridiculous claim of being van gaaled. I once stated on here that if I were to manage a small low budget team and I was offered one of Fellaini or Herrera at a little price, I'll chose Fellaini all day.

And how many times have you given Fellaini the sticks?

Why didn't people here gave him that stick after the community shield game when he was woeful?

How many times has Fellaini outshone Herrera in the midfield?

Apart from what Fellaini with his height, what else does he offer?

There are even times when his height has been useless. Those are the matches when he starts using elbows to commit fouls.

There are few games where he played well in the past three years he has been our player. Though, that may change under the current coach.

There were tines you kept on mentioning Herrera only being able to make 1.6 key passes as poor stats. Even when he makes assist or scores you're still not satisfied.

Thank God you are not our coach.

Diademk07:
Lol!

Nobody is saying Fellaini should be the standard. The problem is with people who believes this performance from Herrera is the standard for us.

The funny thing is apart from the defensive work he offered, Felliani actually made more incisive vertical passes than Herrera in the match. I don't really care about the few times he tried to switch play to the wings (he failed 5 out of the 7 times he tried though), what I want is plenty of vertical incisive passes through the middle to break the defensive shape of the opponent.

And how many of the vertical incisive passes were ambitious enough?

When Fellaini was woeful in his passes in the community shield, why didn't you bring out his video clip to show us how woeful he was?

So many people here have said Herrera was good against Bournemouth but could better but you kept on saying he was bad.

Same thing you've always said about Mata and some other players.

I don't dislike Fellaini, likewise any of our player. But I'll always criticize any of the that isn't playing up to expectation. That's why I said all of them will have a fresh start.

Vanquay16:
The idiot_ made just one key pass...WTF was that?

Not even a single dribble and he calls himself a Central Midfielder.

I would pick Fellaini over that useless specimen, he was even passing back to the Defense when he wasn't even under pressure

Some people will just have cardiac arrest because of Herrera.

And how many key passes did Fellaini make from same position?

How was Fellaini's performance in the community shield match?

I'm sure if it was Herrera who gave that back pass that Vardy used to score in the community shield your accomplice would've floored this thread with so much talk about how useless he was.

Man Utd: Why £89m Paul Pogba deal is a bargain

Manchester United paid a world record £89m to sign Paul Pogba from Juventus - a player they let go for only £1.5m four years ago.
The deal has been cited as the final example of a sport gone money-mad, and described as former manager Sir Alex Ferguson's biggest mistake.
But with the Old Trafford club expected to announce annual revenues of £500m next month, paying such a huge sum for a world-class midfielder they used to own could make perfect business sense.
Because as a percentage of turnover, Pogba was a snip compared to the £155,000 purchase of Denis Law in 1962.
Why Pogba deal could make sense
United's commercial success has underpinned a vast growth in income since the Glazer family took over the club in 2005. And with global stars Pogba and Zlatan Ibrahmovic added to a squad managed by Jose Mourinho, that will only increase.
"This is a new era on the field but commercially as well," said football business expert Kevin Roberts.
Wayne Rooney's arrival from Everton for £27m in 2004 represented 17.2% of the club's overall turnover of £157.2m a year before the Glazer family takeover. Twelve years on, the cost of buying Pogba from Juventus is a similar 17.6%.
Relative to the purchase of Law from Torino 54 years ago, and the £1.5m spent on buying Bryan Robson from West Brom in 1981, these percentages are small.
Scotsman Law cost 61.4% of United's annual turnover of £187,178. In Robson's case the figures are 56.6% and £2.65m.
A more compelling sponsorship pitch
From £49m in 2005, the club's commercial revenue rose to £196.9 in 2015, a rise of 301%. In the same period, United's matchday revenue has increased by 31% and their broadcast income by 123%.
United now operate a three tier system of sponsorship. The biggest deals are for shirt sponsorship and kit manufacturing. The second level are the global agreements with organisations such as EA Sports, who on Wednesday became United's official football video games partner, the third are regional deals which cover all manner of product areas, from financial services, to tyres and noodles.
"If you are flogging sponsorship to Japanese noodle companies you really need to mean something to fans in a country that is 14 hours away on a plane," said Roberts, co-founder of Sport Business.
"Manchester United's digital strategy allows them to collect massive amounts of data which can be used to sell to fans things directly to do with the club. Simplistically, it might be to ask whether people had thought about buying a new shirt for their birthday.
"If you have data about people watching you worldwide, you can put together a more compelling pitch to sponsors and ratchet up the value of deals."
United's carefully choreographed and branded announcement of the Pogba deal was as glossy as a multi-million pound advertising campaign, marking a new level in the evolution of the modern-day football transfer.
"The thing we focus on is engagement," added United's managing director Richard Arnold. "The content and communication we have with the fans has to resonate, so it causes them to respond. That they like. They share. They comment.
"That is as true of the fans in Stretford as it is in China."


http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/37045474

How soon people forget games that they are now suggesting Blind as a direct replacement for Carrick in DM.

Everton, Crystal Palace and I think Swansea in his first season should come to mind. Most especially the Everton away game where we were beaten 3-0. He was so sluggish in that game which Everton played on a high tempo. Immediately he's beaten, it's usually an expressway to our defence. He'll then be running like someone whose legs have been tied to something heavy. He'll be exposed in any high-tempo match like he has been before.

We discussed extensively on this on those match days then. I can see so many of us here have forgotten that. Blind as our last midfielder cannot work unless his speed and his reading of the game have improved which I doubt.

Pogba's transfer details

#mufc pay €105m + €5m bonuses for Pogba. Money shall be paid over 3 years

Juventus will receive €5m if Pogba renews his contract at #mufc or if he's sold for over €50m [di marzio] [di marzio]


Mourinho on Mata

Mourinho; 'It wan't nice what I did to Mata but he's fine now. I needed Fellaini on the pitch for the Rory Delap throws.' #mufc

Pogba's role

Mourinho: "We don't have what I call the second midfielder who has power, strength arrival like Gerrard or Lampard."

Mourinho: "We need a player who can score as a number 10 and defend as a number 6."

On Mata's sub

Mourinho: "He (Mata) played very well. The rules allow six changes and I needed to take the smallest player off - long balls were coming."

I vote Fynestboi
cc NLJega

Why José Mourinho is totally correct in his decision to leave Bastian Schweinsteiger out of his plans

"Over the last week, numerous reports have suggested Bastian Schweinsteiger has failed to impress new boss José Mourinho, leading to the German falling short of José’s preferred 26 man squad. The reports of the German’s unfavourable position at Old Trafford only grew when his brother, Tobi Schweinsteiger, tweeted ‘no respect’ on the day the story broke, suggesting the speculation of the mistreatment of his brother is indeed true.

Of course, the English media snap up any chance they can to write derogatory headlines about José Mourinho, given his love-hate relationship with them, it’s hard to imagine otherwise. But, in this situation, I believe Mourinho is one hundred percent correct with his hardline approach.
Louis van Gaal signed the veteran midfielder for a fee of £6.5million, a small fee for a man with such an illustrious career behind him, but the World Cup winner failed to deliver what was anticipated of him at Old Trafford. Injury-ridden, the 32-year-old only made 18 appearances, with most coming from the bench. On £200,000 a week, he was stealing a living as he spent half of his time at Manchester United out of England. His Spouse, Ana Ivanovic, has a peripatetic way of life due to Tennis commitments and Bastian often attended her matches whilst injured, including a trip to Miami back in March. Earning £200k a week to travel the world, watching a completely different sport to your profession, the German was making a mockery out of the club. Now that, Tobi Schweinsteiger, is showing a lack of respect. The journey of Luke Shaw springs to mind. Back in September, the 21-year-old broke his leg against PSV in the Champions League and ever since, the return to fitness has been his main priority and one in which he has now achieved. So much so, Shaw even dismissed the usual post-season holiday adopted by most players and focused on his recovery. Instead of this, Schweinsteiger continuously spent his days out of action back in Germany and only returned on match days, which was only because it was forced upon him by Louis van Gaal.

In order to return amongst Europe’s elite, Manchester United need to stop being made a mockery of. Sir Alex Ferguson believed nobody was bigger than the club, and that’s how it should be. In recent years, some players have used the club almost as a stepping stone to their own ambitions. One Ángel Di María was the prime example of this and if that wasn’t enough, Sergio Ramos thrived off supposed United interest and later gained his main aim, a new contract at Real Madrid. If the addition of José Mourinho wasn’t a big enough statement that this needs to stop, his actions certainly are. Stamping his authority down with Bastian Schweinsteiger is only the beginning.

Sometimes, especially in this situation, I wonder about the curious case of Manchester United fans. Agonised by the club under-performing, the thought of José Mourinho, standing in the Manchester United dugout before 75,000 fans was a godsend, something that dreams were made of. After two seasons of dismal football and quite pathetic results,
anything was an upgrade on Louis van Gaal and his backwards passing. Now that the club has acted upon fans demands, some fans still aren’t happy. The fact of the matter is, that if Bastian Schweinsteiger had acted like he did last season under Sir Alex Ferguson, his treatment would have been far worse than he is receiving right now, and rightfully so. Bastian’s lack of respect & commitment for the club only warrants a lack of respect from José to him, whether he is a fan favourite or not, no player should undermine the club and neither should one be paid £200,000 a week to wish his team-mates happy birthday.

In addition to Bastian Schweinsteiger’s lack of commitment to Manchester United, the addition of Paul Pogba would leave very little space for the German in terms of a position in the first XI, along with Fellaini, Mata, Herrera, Wayne Rooney, Schneiderlin and Daley Blind, who could be used as central midfielders, Schweinsteiger would find himself extremely far down in the pecking order, meaning his weekly wages would be a giant waste of the clubs funds.
All in all, I, personally, would like Bastian to stay at the club, his CV speaks speaks for itself, likewise with his leadership qualities. But for someone with such low levels of commitment to a project that needs 100% effort and focus, if Mourinho doesn’t believe he provides what is needed to rise above the rest, back to the top, then he has to go, fan favourite or not."

http://utdreport.co.uk/opinions/why-jose-mourinho-is-totally-correct-in-his-decision-to-leave-bastian-schweinsteiger-out-of-his-plans/

Rooney's agent.

Paul Stretford: “Should @ManUtd want @WayneRooney to stay beyond 2019, I think we’ll be sitting down quickly & ensuring that will happen."

SailorXY:
So he built attack & we are missing UCL on goal difference playing unadventurous football every week?

Since the team is still the same why not look ahead & lets see how Jose fare cuz I don't understand this your tears for some weeks now.

Rooney: "Pass, pass, pass, and then eventually pass back to your goalkeeper? For a forward player, that gets frustrating." #MUFC

Rooney: "Possession's fine, but it needs to have direction to it, and most times that has to be towards goal." #MUFC

He knew that midfield was our problem and he bought Di Maria a record signing whom someone here said he didn't know his best playing position at Madrid only for him to sell him the following season.

He had a better right winger in Nani, he sold him for nothing and also playing players oit of position. Does that show he knows what he's doing? He's just using trial and error to see what he can do to turn around the team.

Ed Woodward is just trying to use this Pogba signing to make a statement. It's not about Pogba being worth that amount.

Ed in 2014 “I want us to win. I want us to stop seeing the best players going to other clubs in Spain” https:///1dGmGwp3QH

Debroslink:
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Some guys here understand what I mean.

The problem I have with this is the big dish. How big is it? Installing such in a rented apartment will always be an issue.