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@benelli

beneli:
^^^

OK

And i apologize if my reply was offensive to you.

beneli:
I couldn't resist 'commenting' on the above.

I am aware that some people, especially in multiracial societies, adopt a similar position when the person they're dealing with has a different coloured skin; speaks with an alien-sounding accent etc etc. They say; 'I don't trust you, so I won't employ you because I don't like what your name sounds like'! Or 'you can't know what you're talking about, because you don't sound like you do!'. They are prejudiced by such irrelevancies, which clouds out what might have been the substance of the subject. Ofcourse sometimes these prejudices, founded on stereotypes, are spot on, and the 'subject' or the individual is totally useless or incompetent. But that is by the point.

While I am not suggesting that you're prejudiced; I am, however, curious to know what the name of the person conducting such a study should sound like for it to be considered trustworthy?

Don't be silly. My comment is obviously tied to the question of objectivity, of whether the scholar could carry out the study with an unbiased mind. His defensive tone of voice during his press conference does not help. Go and read the initial post and see if the fellow seems impartial. Without providing any concrete information on his study, or at least providing his final materials, there's nothing to support his credibility here.

Attempting to tie my comment with examples of racial discrimination is just plain mischievous.

Meldrick:
You are talking trash.

See what i mean?

erico2k2:
@texazzpete
Just like I hate to argue with you,I would rather be civil as this is just the NET,I don't skulk away in the UK, I actually work , I believe you wont know anything about that and what gives you the impression I ain't connected with where i come from as a matter of fact i do more than you could ever anticipate
Now let me answer your question, Yes our LG Chairman has don loads of road construction same as the state govt,if you know Sapele very well you would notice that all the major streets has be well tiled between 2002 and now,more than 10 new roads where constructed in sapele township But a very BIG BUT,Ward 7 is being isolated cos on paper SPDC where meant to tile about 15 roads there but not on ground cos of corrupt officials on their part(SPDC) and corrupt politicians.Now we all know the ordinary man in Nigeria cant tackle Politicians,where do they take their frustration?Govt ain't ready to deal with these companies cos they are already collecting enough from them,.

So now you're ready to be civil. Good.
You mention that the Local Govt has constructed only a handful of roads in the past eight years. Does that suffice for you? Do you know how much these folk collect, and how much more could have been done?
secondly, where is the documentary evidence that SPDC promised to tar 15 roads for you guys? Is it something you've seen, or something your youth leaders told to his impressionable followers? I'd like to know, please.

In this day and age, how come an educated person like yourself feels it is normal for a foreign, tax paying oil company to construct 1.5 times the number of roads your state and local government combined constructed for you in eight years?

The ordinary man and woman in Nigeria can tackle corrupt politicians by not voting for them, by not supporting their corrupt agenda. But instead we see your youth working vigorously to rig these people in at all cost!

It's Texazzpete

Those kids are seriously cute. I'll be in contact soon, it's a good feeling to help!

Even at 30k, why would you really want to get this? This won't even run Windows Xp.

I hate commenting on these kind of issues. But it's difficult to trust this study when it's done by someone named 'Emma Okocha'.

Why anyone would want to pay money for Norton in this day and age is beyond me.
Microsoft Security Essentials is a FREE antivirus, and it's way better than Norton antivirus. It's scored consistently higher in AV tests than Norton. Plus it's free.

Go to Microsoft.com and download it.

Cell triangulation is not nearly as accurate as you folks imagine. You'll never be able to pinpoint the location with a great degree of accuracy.
The SIM cards these fellows use are disposable, so the concept of reading their SMS messages doesn't apply.

SIM card registration will not solve anything. Anyone can purchase 100 SIM cards from Benin Republic without any documentation and all 100 will roam in Nigeria. You'll easily be able to use them all without any issue.
Also, the kidnappers can easily use SIM cards taken from their victims.

The Governors should shut up and instead tell us why they have not put part of the security money they receive into purchasing helicopters. Choppers will go a long way to combat kidnap and armed robbery cases in Nigeria.

It doesn't matter how much money FIFA gives to the participating nation. it is an official FIFA tournament and the players are representing their country. There's no sane reason for the extremely wide gulf between the remunerations paid for the men and the women.

Football is a risky, transient career. just one injury can finish you for good even at a tender age. Why should these ladies put themselves at risk for our entertainment and be paid a pittance?

This is precisely the reason why Nigeria fails in Athletics internationally. All our top athletes are given a mere pittance to survive, leaving them no choice but to look outside the sport for survival. Instead of training, they're hustling.
Utter rubbish.

erico2k2:
@Jon.Bee
or whatever your name is, I have read your other post and came to realize that you cud not post a comment without insulting others who dare to do so before you so i aint gonna sweat with you re your coments upstairs,but i will like to think you aint from the ND if so from where? what part I dont xpect U to answer though,
Now yourecon it would be wise for these women to tackle the FG directly right? remember what happened in Ogoni land when they attempted that? it aint been to long ago though?.people grow wiser and tend to find new ways of dealing with situations,by the way all Govt officials connect with Oil are al corrupt,so do you realy think these % meant for community dev goes put into its actual use eh?[b]Dunno if you ever heard of a lil place called Sapele and a lil Ward there caled Ward 7(gana) thats where Im from, in that ward alone half the size of peckham we got16 oil wells and one flow station,I grew up there, for tha past 30 yrs shell managed to construct one rd just 8 electric poles long all becouse we blocked that strectch and thier heavy trucks could not negotiate the beding cornners of the other tiled ones,[/b]I wont expect you to realize these injustice, you claim we are being Emotional, why wont we be when we face the harsh reality of these expliotation day in day out.

Oya, how many roads has your local government chairman constructed? Can you name just one tangible job done by your local government chairmen in the past 10 years?
So Shell should start building roads for your Ward 7. The money allocated to your local Government, what is it used for? Christmas parties?

While your state governors and local govt and village representatives lavish your share of the oil money on women, wine and trips to Dubai, you see no 'injustice' in it. You people will once again sell your votes to the biggest con-men in 2011 elections then come around again crying of 'injustice'.

Skulk away in the UK, cowering behind your computer. people like myself that live and work in the Niger Delta know the significant role your people play in ensuring they live in abject poverty.

Meldrick:
My friend shut up there . If you have nothing to say keep quiet or blow a whistle.

None of them have blamed the oil companies but they are been diplomatic.

I had something to say and i said it. It's not my fault you have no effective rejoinder and have decided to take the coward's way out by attacking me.

Meldrick:
That project is dear to the government. With this action the government will have no choice but meet their demands inorder for the projecct to continue.

That project ultimately is aimed at reducing the amount of gas flared, so it should be dear to the Niger Delta indigenes. Naturally, you're too dumb to figure this out.

The person who wrote that article is too dumb to live.
Windows mobile phone have been out for over 7 years now, and Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft anymore

@Topic
I don't just support the death penalty for kidnappers; I support the public execution by firing squad.
Kidnapping can inflict severe emotional and mental trauma not only on the victims, but on the relatives of the victims. This has nothing to do with 'Injustice', it has more to do with greed, plain and simple.

So kill them all and have done with it. Human beings are a non-renewable resource, so for every kidnapper you kill, there will be one less monster in the world.

[quote author=G-Dex link=topic=478262.msg6393900#msg6393900 date=1279258038]Has killng armd robers stopd armd robry? Or has arestin moni lutas stopd moni lutin. If d kidnapas b killd, wt den happens 2 our corrupt politicians who also 're bhind most of d kidnapins.[/quote]And people wonder why they fail O'Level English. This is a discussion forum for grownups. Do you see anyone else using 'txtspeak' here?

mojounited:
^^^

Well in such case, then the company does not have to face any form of problem with or have their orations disrupted by the community.

However, in some other cases, the multinationals neglect the MOU (Memorandum of understanding); an agreeement signed between the company and government/community - which is to construct assess roads, provide electricity and potable water to the community, carry out skill development programmes for community peeps/workers (i.e, scaffolding, welding training, etc.). This is generally done as a compensation for the community who will suffer from environmental degradation by company vehicles/equipment, the gas flare, noise,  etc. from the gas plants/facilities.

Therefore, if the company fails to uphold its part of the agreement (MOU), the community may be aggrieved and decide to protest by besieging the site to stop all works/activities (should in-case their plight/protest is not addressed by the Project Advisory Committee, PAC - which consists of members of the three parties).

Please some of us really need to understand the agreement(s) made and full situations associated these kind of issues before jumping on the bandwagon,

The ONLY bandwagon in the Niger Delta is to blame the oil companies for EVERYTHING. And that's just plain silly. It's also the reason why the region remains backwards and poor.
naturally, the Federal Govt which collects over 80% of the crude oil revenue is extremely happy to collect only 1% of the blame.

I find it really amusing. The federal government is by far the chief beneficiary of the oil exploitation, and the only blame they collect (if any) is that from supposedly educated people who condemn  them for being 'too soft on the oil companies'.

The Multinationals are not angels. They have a role to play and they have so far not done the best job of doing that. But if the Niger Delta indigenes cannot summon up the sense to tackle their Federal, State and Local governments, then they should know that they too have a hand in their sorrows!
before i 'chop' any insults, i will insist that i am not defending the Oil Coys, i'm merely trying to help people see that the rogues gallery of the Niger Delta also includes the Local, State and federal Government. And if the people of that region cannot get up in 2011 to start making changes via the ballot box, then there's no hope for them.

PapaBrowne:
The question I have 2 ask you is who is at a loss for the neglect of the communities. The oil companies loose heavily. The FG losses heavily and the communities loose heavily. The only beneficiaries are individuals which include Government officials, Oil company executives and militants.
The FG has a part to play, the IOCs have a part to play and the communities have a part to play. Everybody is at fault but the key culprits remain those that are closest to the problems and have the ability to solve them.

So why then do you target the oil companies in your statements when the communities fit the criteria you set out: they are close to the problems and have the ability to ensure an efficient solution to their problem is applied?
These community leaders have a track record of appropriating sums of money meant for their development. The community youths have a track record of voting in corrupt people as their representatives in the state and local government. They have a track record of setting unrealistic targets, for refusal to take time and effort to understand where to direct their ire at their lack of development.

Also, it is worth noting that the protesting women are directing their protests at the Federal Government, NOT Chevron.

Funny how you people could turn a demand directed at the Federal Government (who in fact SHOULD be the ones to provide power to their citizens) to upbraiding Chevron for not doing what the Government should have done.

PapaBrowne:
If you've ever been to Escravos, you will understand why these women are justified in their actions. The amount of projects sitting on Escravos is currently worth over $30 billion dollars. It is actually the most invested piece of real estate any where in Africa. You have the Chevron Tank farm, Escravos GTL Project and a whole lot other projects. Escravos

Sad thing is that side by side all these sits Ugborodo community. A ramshakle village with rusted zinc roofs and mud brick walls. This is a community from which tens billions of dollars are harvested yearly. With say 10 million dollars, you could set this commiunity up to be as self sufficient as possible and they would never worry your projects no more. But naaah, they rather leave them in darkness.

obailala:
The truth is that it would cost Chevron absolutely nothing to meet the simple and justifiable demands of these host communities. The real problem stems out of the diabolic nature of the FG and SG who have wrongly influenced these multinationals to be insensitive to the plights of these communities.

The power plants in those facilities produce more than ten times the required power capacity for their systems and they still flare excess gas away so I wonder why they can't just power their host communities whose power demands are insignificant.

And this is part of the reason why the Niger Delta is in so much turmoil today; the people expect the 'oil companies' to meet their every need, even those that are in the province of the state and federal governments.
These oil companies pay massive taxes to the state and federal government. Delta state govt no doubt gets taxes running in the millions of dollars yearly. Why is no one querying the State Government?
Escravos is as much a cash cow for the federal and State government as it is for the oil companies. Yet no one thinks it important to look in that direction?

Since 2008, i've been begging people from the Niger Delta on Nairaland to show me anything their local government chairmen have done for their communities. All i've been getting back is insults.

This is not to say that the oil companies are blameless, but we have to share the blame all round at all the principal actors.

As regards this case, i stand my ground. If the women need to disrupt anything, why a pipeline to convey gas which would otherwise have been flared? And if the women are planning to stall projects like these, what moral reason then would they have to complain about gas flaring?

udezue:
Good

How is that 'Good'?
People are disrupting efforts to improve power to the whole nation and you think it's good, next thing you'll turn around and blame the Federal Govt for failure to provide power.

These people will NEVER face their state and local government. Instead they'll troop out to retard progress while demanding for gratification.

These gas lines do a lot to provide an alternative route for gas that would otherwise be flared. these same people would come out complaining of gas flaring and Acid rain.

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Sport/Football/5595229-146/our_falconets_are_playing_for_peanuts.csp

People, after reading this report i think we need to escalate this matter. Sporting performance has two factors; the players and the support from the people they represent. If we cannot make noise over this issue to ensure decent motivation and compensation for these ladies, then we have no business complaining about future shoddy turnouts!

In fact, i strongly welcome more 'negative' reports on Africa by western media. That seems to be the only way that the Government can be pressured to make a difference. If not for western media, which news network will tell us about the rape and assault of women in the Congo? Who would have highlighted the suffering and starvation in Zimbabwe?
How many times had NTA reported on the killings in Darfur before CNN et al ran with it and made it a big issue?

I saw this article on 234Next today.
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Sport/Football/5595229-146/our_falconets_are_playing_for_peanuts.csp

Nothing will be done to fix this situation. But if it appears on BBC or CNN, you'll see our leaders start to sit up.

Some of y'all here are pretty pathetic. How can a photo of Children going to school in a canoe be an attempt to tarnish our image?

What exactly is wrong with going to school in a canoe? Thousands of Nigerians rely on water for transportation. Hell, our primary and secondary school social studies textbooks have pics and illustrations of people living in riverine areas and moving on canoes.

If now for some reason you feel the situation is bad, why the hell haven't you done anything about it?

Abeg leave the BBC alone and look inwards. Nigeria is ailing inside and some silly muppets are hell-bent on presenting a facade of idyll bliss to the outside world.

Don't glorify these evil brigands.
The best way to foil these kidnap cases is to arrest and prosecute their traditional ruler sponsors and execute all arrested kidnappers publicly.

Mr Fire:
Please tell the world that we need employment. If I collect N15,000 every month, I will not be carrying gun.

Which hard working Igbo man cannot make many times that amount doing basic commerce? Abeg let these thieves let us hear word jo. I blame the Government. If you execute the arrested kidnappers in public via firing squad, it would serve as a serious deterrent for these social leeches.

This dude's a scammer. Do business with him at your own peril.

hassymo5:
,
pity those without connection, with your brain without connection in naija you cant go any where

The lazy man's excuse for failure.

One more thing.
If you people know that N17000 is too low to take home, why do you constantly criticize the Nigerian police for being lawless when the average street policeman takes home around that amount?

So let me get this clear.
The Government doubles the minimum wage and people are complaining that the recipients cannot feed thier families with that amount. Were the same people not surviving with half that amount previously? Why will they suddenly lose their ability to live and feed when that amount is doubled?

Prior to this wage increase, where were the reports of mass starvation?

17,000 naira is still a small amount, and will still see its recipients undergo some level of hardship. but it's an improvement over the previous level and is nowhere near the doomsday scenario some of you are so determined to paint.

Cohomology:
While our so-called leaders earn a minimum of N24,000,000 per month some goats on NL are taking their time to enlighten us of the joys of N17,000 per month.

Yes, but you have millions of workers, and only a few thousand of the 'leaders'. How does that compute?