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Exactly! Isn't it ironic that descendants of former slaves and victims of systematic oppression and dehumanisation are those that oppose the freedom of homosexual minority the most? It's not even like they're asking for something super like rights to work, vote or gain access to equal opportunities. They just say 'Mind your business and face front' what they do in their privacy as consenting adults is of no harm or consequence to the next person. Yet, the laws declared it criminal to the point of a long jail term

pafo:
This has been the theme throughout history. The battle between minority and majority groups and the latter always comes out on top. It is happening all over again and as always, we are always too late to realize how wrong we were.

Yes! I am talking of "homosexuality". We are wrong to show prejudice towards them as they are humans(in their minority) just hoping to leave their life and be accepted, much the black slaves.

Someone like Messi is too exposed and loved to be racist. It's usually the 'afonja' and 'Igbo' type lowlife equivalents in those countries that are racist. Education broadens horizon of people who don't have the luxury to travel the world to see beyond their environment and prejudices.

Tribalism and ethnocentrism are indicators of a parochial worldview of uneducated idîots.

Emilokoiyawon:
Is that so? And I am here shouting Messi, Messi...Na wa oh

Africa itself is just a geographical description of politically defined countries between oceans. People, on the other hand, are united by tribes and cultures and to a degree race. Religion used to be cultural until the invasive and conquerous Abrahamic religions were birthed. As a black african, I'd never thought an Arab was like me/us and I didn't have to read any history books.

Sometimes, the political sections called countries divides a people. For example, Fulanis are in Nigeria, Niger, even Ghana but they remain Fulani. It is only natural they relate more and better with their tribesmen who understands and speaks their language and are also of the same culture, than a country or continent man. Likewise, Ibibios are in Nigeria and now in Cameroon in the ceded Bakassi region. What I'm driving at is that an Arab would consider another Arab as their brothers/sisters before anyone else irrespective of geographical location.

The unusual yet amusing thing about thing all these is Islam and the black people and Christianity to a lesser degree. It's funny how because of religion and gods of oppressors who took black as slaves (Yes, Arabs kept black slaves, even Islam doesn't regard blacks in high esteem) an Hausa muslim fanatic would be willing to slaughter another Hausa Christian - that looks just like him and subject to identical discriminatory experiences in 'holy' Arab countries - because of a caricature of their prophet in a distant land Wake me up when an Arab muslim would kill another Arab infidel because of a nigger-muslim.

History and Science needs to be enforced in our schools. A total overhaul of our education system is required honestly.

quinSonia:
all these NORTH AFRICANS COUNTRIES;don't ever think of themselves as AFRICANS self especially those Arabs from from Egyptians,Moroccans,Tunisians etc, they ain't even Africans self,they are being called Africans for Formality same,TRUTH BE TOLD they are Racists towards blacks,they are Arabs(far from being African)

imagine Arabs from Egyp,Algerian calling us Nigger,niggas etc...

Such a simpleton you are, how many people can 'get money' as you put it if a system is designed to annihilate a race of people and whose money are they getting?

It's usually broke unintelligent people that speak as you did. I'm sure you think money is everything, so answer this little question: How many people have money in the world today, and how many are black? So then what do we do with the billions that don't have and would never have?

Think along those lines, then you just might discover the thinking behind genocides, ethnic cleansing, systemic oppression and slavery.

nuggarito:
In gambino's this is america

Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
You go tell somebody
Grandma told me
Get your money, black man (get your money)
Get your money, black man (get your money)
Get your money, black man (get your, black man)
Get your money, black man (get your, black man)
Black man.


In essense success is the best revenge.

Latin American countries have it rough for black people. The order is White/Caucasian, White skinned, Mulatto (black-white hybrid) then any other creature with a lighter skin before Blacks. The darker the skin colour, the lower you human value, even in Brazil.

Just like how almost everyone in Nigeria not politically connected or bothers with politics wants to leave the country or at least save their offsprings from Nigeria woes by giving birth the them abroad, Dark (Mulattoes don't identify as blacks - different from the US where mixed people would like to be identified as black) Black Brazilians also think the best option for their kids is to born by a white person...and trust with that mentality, good luck finding a white person to cross with...so they go with Indians or some other lower economic valued light skinned person.

There is also discrimination among mulattoes and blacks and even within blacks based on shades of black. It's nauseating and even scary to imagine the extremes as a black person.

The countries Nigerians are so eager to run to fought for their freedoms especially black freedoms and it wasn't cheap. Our ancestors sold off the ancestors of the civil rights activists as slaves that paid the high price while we shít in ours and run to US or Canada or UK pretty much the most welcoming places to be a black minority in the world.

It is easier to take part in politics and the process in Nigeria to sanitise it gradually than to climb the economic ladder in those western countries as a BLACK PERSON (shades matter).

give it time. Focus on other things.

Women are the most cruel towards children that aren't theirs. Talking from experience. I would never understand why women are put on pedestals in society for being good mothers Who's gonna take care of your kids before?

When good is being measured by what one does for people they have no ties to, wake me up if you find a decent amount of women.

Have the herdsmen recruited leatherface?

nwabekeyi:
there's no fundamental difference between other mammals primates and human, the difference in intelligence between them and humans is just in few degrees.
Animal brains are also capable of cognitive abilities: memory, curiosity, ability to reason and to imitate others. The only reasons why humans could be more intelligent is the enlarged brain to body index and bigger neocortex portion of our brain which is responsible for higher order brain function

If animals had the same brain/body index as humans, they maybe equally or even more intelligent than we are.

Sorry for striking you out but there's a world of difference between mammals and humans even though humans are mammals. Bats, dolphins, whales, dogs etc are also mammals.

My question: Can evolution be induced by say genetic engineering or does it have to occur naturally? You mentioned introduction of specific genes from plasmids into DNA or something like that. So, can controlled mutation like that lead to a new breed of organism?

What do you think of cloning and designing and growing 'superhumans' from scratch, possible or futuristic? ignore the ethical barriers

SoundLock:
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On the issue of the existence of this super being, I can't tell you the name or nature of the being that could have been involved in our creation or acceleration of our evolution, but I can provide evidence for existence of beings of higher intelligence that have been involved in our ancient past.

Please provide such evidence

Actually, No. Humans never evolved from Neanderthals and this is a widely accepted notion in the scientific community. There are (were) two dominant theories on how the Neanderthals became extinct, however recent DNA studies (fraction of Neanderthal DNA in Asians, Europeans etc but not in Africans) give credence to the interbreeding theory.

That's by the way, evolution is sort of like a description of the history of species with regard to relationships between common ancestors. I think it is therefore erroneous to say humans evolved from Neanderthals, rather, modern man and Neanderthals share(d) a common ancestor.

Much to be learned here, good explanations you've provided, I like when you go down to the molecular when you elaborate.

I am by no means an expert in the subject or a biologist, however, if there is one thing that I strongly disagree with, is you saying 'evolution is creation' probably in a different language. I wouldn't indulge religious looneys looking for gaps in scientific theories simply to give credence to their favorite book of imaginary friends and talking donkeys. How many more passes should these ancient mythological texts in trying to explain anything? From the universe moving round the earth to the world created in six days?

Religion might serve its multiplicities of benign purposes but explaining reality is where it fails and has always failed since inception, and where it hasn't, you certainly find ignorance.

nwabekeyi:
science still believe that we evolved directly from neanthertals and not homo erectus.

Homo erectus were not the immediate pregnitors of humans. I really do not know where you got this information about changing evolutionary line and saying science is confused about evolution is like saying that astronomers who predicted several eclipses that actually happened were also confused.

You don't have to be stupīd to get noticed. Since you know it all and have no questions, keep shut and move to the next thread or are you that petulant narcissist that thinks nairaland and its topics are all about you?

spartan117:
I've done my research about evolution theory, if I need to clarify anything Google is my friend. So what are you guys offering that I don't already know?

The op said that creationists think evolution takes place overnight and he based this entire thread in line with that discussion. But he is wrong common ss2 biology taught us about evolution theory, and Charles darwin made it very clear that evolution takes millions of years.

So you guys should tell the house something we don't already know since you wish to 'educate' us

Really? Then he must have been very young as a Governor

I really like this. If only there were churches that routinely describe biblical stories allegorically like you have, for meaningful life endeavours, one wouldn't be so critical.

Very useful stuff JohnspeakU. I would like to read more of your thoughts.

Before you talk about creation from your book of talking snakes and donkeys, have you understood homosexuality? have you examined the book where you draw your morals from? (Isn't it the same book where god asks a man to sacrifice his son or lot offers his children to rapists or god commands children to be killed because of their father's undoing)

Ignorance is no excuse boy, it's 2018. You have a smartphone and the internet. Opinionated people such as yourself are usually the most ignorant. Traditionally, homosexuality is frowned upon, so was having twins, once upon a time. Albinos are still being maimed in Tanzania and widows are still being forced to drink water used to wash deceased husband's corpses, are these also moral?

Seems you are obsessed about where other adults choose to insert their genitals and if that is so, you really need to take a deep look at yourself to check if you are alright mentally.

Your good book isn't good at all, I'd advise you read it in its entirety, and drawing your good and bad from ancient jewish mythological texts just gives you off as unintelligent and unexposed (didn't you claim you have travelled wide?)

smeag0l:
Oga, morality means principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour and I am not talking about the religious angle here because homosexuality is not allowed in Africa even during the traditional religion long before the white man came with christianity. A man was not created with a manhood to insert it into another man because there's o hole made for such in anoter man's body. Same goes for a woman too.What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. It's as simple as that!

Don't all these schools have alumni? If it's to give to church, Nigerians would give their last penny. They should raise funds from alumni if the government is not responding.

darkchild64:
who says I don't like bobrisky,why are u putting words in my mouth

In the first quote of mine which I quoted I said that gay people must not always turn out to be like bobrisky,and for obvious reasons,bobrisky is doing more harm than good to the way people perceive gay people.

On the one hand, you say if you were gay, you wouldn't give a shït on how you are perceived by others, and on the other say Bobrisky has negative lifestyle and doing more harm to public perception of gays, not in your opinion, but obvious reasons.

Now the problem is that u think I dislike bobrisky because he is a cross dresser,bro u should read all my comments on nairaland and u would see that I do not care how a person chooses to live his or her life,why I brought bobrisky up is not because I am trying to condemn his lifestyle, one thing u can't deny is the fact that when people often talk of gay people they use bobrisky as a standard and because obviously they detest bobrisky they feel that gay people are like him and condemn them in the same way,

Your comments clearly expressed condemnation, however subtle. The thing I was trying to highlight to you from your earlier comment was that you kind of endorsed Bobrisky on one hand (you wouldn't give a shït if you were gay) and then condemned him in the end. We cannot control public perception, as much as we would want to. You don't have to be a philanthropist to be liked for your sexuality or help public perception of people of same sexuality, who would want to carry such a burden?

it would be different if you have a gay person contributing in a different way to the Nigerian society,let's say maybe in sports,Nigeria's best sprinter is gay,or in business,maybe one of the richest men or philanthropists in Nigeria is gay it would proof to people that homosexuality is not a basis to judge a person,homosexuals can also be useful to the society.
Now there are a few things I admire about bobrisky and of course there are a few things I have against him his cross dressing or social defiance is not one of them.

I understand what you mean, just wanted to highlight the contradiction in your comment. I only knew about Bobrisky because my younger sister finds him/her funny. Really, not a big deal.

Still condescending towards Bobrisky. Like I asked, is Bobrisky violating your rights? The dude is quite popular and if you don't like him/her, why didn't you take your advice in the post I quoted, move on. Gay people can do as they choose, not according to your prejudices before they are accepted by you.

Read your post again and what I highlighted. If you don't still get it, fine. Not that serious anyway.

darkchild64:
when in my post did I abuse or say anything against bobrisky,do u understand the meaning of the word "homophobia", I am trying to say that gay people should not always become the type of people that bring negative attention like bobrisky does

p.s bobrisky say he is not gay,we don't know if he is telling the truth or not but at best we know he is a cross dresser

I sort of agree with the point of your original post that no one should marry another if they are not the sexual preference but don't you think it's silly to be basing your 'morality' on religious texts? Have you even read those books to know the immoral and senseless killings by god and his prophets in your holy book?

Why don't you first learn about homosexuality, learn the history and actually what's in your bible then see the unjust and discriminatory law in Nigeria against homosexuals. Hope you won't go beat up the demon out of your sibling if you find that they are homosexual.

The discriminatory law is what, by and large, caused your friends to end up in such marriages and trust, nobody's opening up to you about their sexuality with your religious dogmatic demeanor. Another thing, FYI homosexuality has been observed in animals and it's no longer news. You have a smartphone and an internet, use it. Check Quora to see how it is to be homosexual before you kill them because of a book of talking snakes and donkeys and moon splitting.

smeag0l:
The statement "but if I was actually gay,I wouldn't give the slightest f_uck to what u homophobic hypocrites think about me,if u like curse me all u like,I would live my life the way I choose..." will earn you a 14 year jail term in Nigeria.
Besides, I find one loophole in your argument.Being gay is not a normal feeling and goes against all moral and religious dogma except in places like the US where morality has being long thrown to the dogs. No one is born gay and science has tried so hard to refute this fact without making any headway. All those who claim to be gay inherited that sexuality by nurture and not nature. Also, your statement about being a lez and rejecting marriage proposal is what I'm actually advocating for. It happens abroad but over here, Nigerian lesbian ladies want to eat their cake and still have it. If you claim to be a lesbian, why not stand by it and damn every societal stigma. But no, they won't do that probably because of greed and also to save face. If they want to thread the path of destruction, why drag an innocent man into it?

and you capped it all by being the homophobic hypocrite is Bobrisky violating your rights?

darkchild64:
what we need to do in Nigeria is stop stigmatization, we like to judge others while we ourselves are bad people,wetin concern you with how anoda person satisfies him her self,if you are a lesbian be honourable enough to reject a marriage or even relationship request from a guy no matter the pressure, but if you go ahead to yield to the pressure,make sure you stay put ,I am masculine and heterosexual, but if I was actually gay,I wouldn't give the slightest f_uck to what u homophobic hypocrites think about me, if u like curse me all u like,I would live my life the way I choose as long as I'm not violating another person's right,if you are gay whether male or female feel great about yourself,you are special,but most importantly work hard to become someone so important and useful to the society so u can proof to everyone that sexuality is just a part of who we are,our sexuality does not define us,gay people are not sexually rebellious, they are only responding to their normal feelings the way heterosexual people do,so like I earlier said work hard to become someone that contributes to the society not necessarily in the way bobrisky does

When they tell you stories of how the colonialists saved your ancestors from the wrath of the jewish god and his son Jesus, I'm sure you thank them for it.

Read what you wrote here again, digest then think about the 'favor' Nike is doing that Nigerians can't do for their people and national team Ridiculous

adedayoa2:
which one is depend, as if it was Nigeria that paid Nike to sew for them, Nike is actually doing us a favor and also making their own profit and even paying NFF part of the gains.

if the world cup was held in nigeria and nigeria was playing, how many nigerians in the stadium would have original jerseys on? I'm surprised nigerians don't see that as a problem

it's sad that most nigerians like the team and support them, but can't afford the even the jersey replicas, does that even make any sense? True supporters of the national team are being disenfranchised by these foreign sport giants. Nike has no blame here, they are all for business ... The NFF people like most of the politicians running national institutions do for greed, what and how much of the $2m they would get. Sad sad

Shut up if you don't have anything meaningful to say. There are specifications require for international jerseys. These jerseys are supposed to be produced in Nigeria where the majority of the team supporters are.

The ones produced by Nike are unaffordable by most of the nations supporters and you are here talking bullocks. If the jerseys were 5k made in Nigeria, how many fakes would you find and how many orders would we get as the team progresses in the world cup? how many people would be employed?

Nairaland give you job na why you dey post rubbish think say you understand economics pass Ben Bruce, a successful multi-sector investor in Nigeria

Mynd44:
It is bad that Ben does not understand economics.

He does not understand that the hype around the jersey was sponsored by Nike. The only raise the jersey is getting huge ratings is because of the advertisements and not the jersey it self.

And then Ben Bruce is misinformed as Nike have come out to say that the 3 million preorders is actually not true

Exactly his point. Would the truck not hit him after screaming Jesus?

alBHAGDADI:
People like him are usually the first to scream JESUS when a truck is about to hit them.

Same statement schizophrenics make to prove they are not crazy. How did you come about that? How do you separate religion from God?

Let's face our reality in Nigeria, Religion (all based on this God you know is real) is the major cause of avoidable deaths in the country. Stop being an enabler as it's convenient for you to say 'God is real' because you are not the victim.

masada:
While God my favorite imaginary friend is real

Religion is so overrated

It was a means to an end for those who brought religion to us

While they have moved on with advancement and development

We stil stuck in it

Emancipate yourself from from religion slavery

watch how the religious would blame the victim. How is this different from the foolishness of sowing seed or paying tithes? This Jesus delusion has ruined many lives and continue to do so in Nigeria.

Yeah right, the man had no faith, or he was foolish to listen to the pastor or God knows best. You wonder why scientists make an effort to discover drugs if Jesus can heal them

I'll remember the name lol

EgunMogaji:
I am EgunMogaji Oko Anifata Abefe

Errm excuse me, who did you say you are again?

EgunMogaji:
"“2 weeks after that, I started work in the office of the SA in Abuja all from sending an email of my offering to volunteer. Skills that helped:
1) Basic Graphics Design.
2) Being able to Livestream to Youtube. These days FB live makes this easier.

“Whilst everyone's path will differ, it is important we make moves, and shoot shots. As the labour market is competitive, bringing your extra is expedient.

“Though I have a B. Eng and an MSc from reasonably good schools, these things, though very important, became secondary. "

I've said it on here before. I will hire only people that can provide solutions and benefit to me. Your college degree, while a good achievement, will not get you hired with me. And if I have to fill in a position that may require a college degree due to requirements, it will only be one from a public institution that was in existent before 1980.

Can't wait bro ... Allah has prepared an orgy full of virgins for us. We just need to invite more kafirrs with the detonators

AtYourCervix:
Can't wait to join islam and work my way up to the level of those that'll strap a bomb to themselves and detonate it in a marketplace so I can get those 72 virgins

I want to be Muslim. Such a lovely religion

I tell you. He didnt even know me. Next time, if ever, I see him I'd ask him to teach me how not to give a fück. Sometimes we just need to not care about what people think.

GrammarCheck:
Overly cheerful. I don't know how he keeps up with his fanbase.. he stops to say hi to everyone and snaps pictures with everyone! He's so full of life.

That said... Derenle is not gay.

Derenle handled the situation with class. My respect for him has increased through the years. I remember when I met him in Lagos, very cheerful lad.

Nigerians homosexuality is not your problem, let people be. Live your own, Bleep a sex doll, fundle your genïtals if it pleases you, nobody follow una drag anything. Don't know if Denrele is homosexual or not, neither do I care.