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oscarwilde:
Which areas do you suggest for me to retrain in?

1. Orienting yourself towards healthcare.
You can grab some cheap and quick certifications (NVQs) and start in at the lower levels, healthcare assistant, phlebotomist, etc.
Or depending on what you read in school and if you have the money to go back to school, there's nursing, physician associate, etc.

2. Or if you can skill yourself in IT-related pathways, all that coding and stuff.

In your shoes I would tweak my CV heavily and flesh out customer service experience (no matter how tenuous) and make those one of my targeted positions. The only upside of covid is the increase in positions that have now turned WFH.
Then look for a couple of certifications to anchor yourself. As you are in banking, think compliance and governance (all that KYC, AML stuff), tax law (don't do a masters o). These City people have so many dodgy clients, so they have to preach compliance loudly while they happily help them dishwash their money.

Then get some handwork if you can. Anything to get yourself outside on a daily. Even if you will be the designated babysitter/childcare specialist for a while, push them off to school and go and carry load in Tesco or something for a shift. Or babysit by day then go mail sorting or warehousing by night. Our Nigerian women dey try well well, tolerating our weird cultural practices and all that, but when you are the winner of bread you go show am.

MichaelUde:
Lol.
No mind OgaHR, na him way. Na hire and fire them sabi, the same person wey congratulate you on your appointment in one letter go later regret to inform you say the appointment don waka.
But what he said na true o.
You're more likely to be working on your physical fitness with Amazon than otherwise when you first land here.

There is also a Step 5: Retrain for the NHS.
I'm a Tier 2 dependant as well, my madam na nurse, I worked in a bank too.
Pikins dey to feed, I dey work shift for supermarket. Just get something, anything doing so that you no go exhaust the money wey you use come from Naija and your madam go begin notice say gas bill dey high and wonder why that is so.

Lol, comedians full here.
(HRM101 - Always do your best to get one of your subordinates to sign the bad news letters. You never know when Nigerians go begin do mass shootings American-style).

On a serious note, not to discourage you oscarwilde, but to give you a realistic view of the situation.
The retraining idea is a good one; I have a friend who is now a HCA.

oscarwilde:
Mind is as open as a pot. I just wanna where and how to start.

Oh that's simple.
Step1: You come in, draft a resume to suit the oyibo man's taste, then start throwing it around electronically at all the job positions you would like to hold, for about 2 hours each day, followed up with a healthy dose of prayer if you're religious.

Step 2: While following that routine, you do some quick courses on- or offline and sign up with one of those agencies that recruit for care homes.
Step 3: In your spare time, you check Royal Mail and the major retailers for the jobs that will help you improve your physical fitness.

Step 4: Repeat all of the above in any order, increasing the servings and helpings of prayer as required.

Lexusgs430:
Not an envelope you want to see at all..... Before you open, you would secretly be hoping it's a refund.........

That moment of trepidation, when you see calculations/figures from the pit of hell.........

I had a friend wey find their trouble one time with a miscalculated self-assessment. Na so them wan use BX9 brown envelope drive the poor guy to declare madness.

wonlasewonimi:
Are you and Lexusgs430 saying the guy can't work as Bank manager here?

As much as I wish my answer were otherwise, I think the chances of his getting a similar job at that level are low.
Hence the advice to explore all levels of the employment ecosystem, from zero-hours upwards

wonlasewonimi:
Deept talk true have you been shortchaging hmrc?

Next thing na for those brown envelopes with a BX postcode to start dropping

Lexusgs430:
My only advice for you...... ....


Have an open mind........ Like an open book.......


The temptation would overwhelm you to send CV's to Barclays, HSBC, Nationwide, Halifax etc etc..... Resist that temptation........

Lol.
Resist it with every fibre of your being.
Collars have other colours apart from white.

Aphrodite007:
Hahahahahahaha this!!!!

I was just reading all the arguments and shaking my head. I don’t care if my child is more Brit than the queen, if they join Isis, they should be stripped- you cannot disgrace me!

People complaining about being second class citizens in another mans country but silent about what’s going on in Nigeria where the Igbos are treated like shit.

She literally denounced her allegiance to the UK, yet people are arguing that she should be let in. Precedence? Of course it set a precedence to become a deterrent.

When Ireland did all it did to the Brit Empire, didn’t the Brit collect their citizenship from them? Abi the Irish are black?

This thread is pure trips!

Nothing like a lunch break visit to Nairaland.
Not going to resuscitate the argument, but its disingenuous to make reference to an apparent shrugging-off of tribalism in Nigeria when people make reference to racism in the UK.

Of course people call out the rubbish that's currently going on in our beloved and benighted homeland with this heavily tribalistic government, but that fact that people are not demonstrating on the streets against the government's practices doesn't mean they forfeit for all time the opportunity to speak up against what they feel is happening elsewhere.

munachiugwudi:
Hello everyone. Please I need your advice on an issue.
I retrieved my passport last week 16/03/2021, but there was an error on my vignette (validity period of just 1 day). Also, I was not sent the decision mail. This was omitted. I have raised a complaint to UKVI and their response is that I will be contacted in 15 working days.

I want to pay my outstanding tuition and I want to know if that is safe. Do you think the embassy will conduct any further checks on my account in the course of regularizing the details on my vignette?

I don't think they will conduct any further checks on your account having already issued you a visa, but to be on the safe side, as long as there's no pressing hurry in paying your fees (is the university demanding the balance now, for instance?), then leave the money in your account and let the UKVI vignette reissue process play out.

If the university is demanding the fees, in your shoes I would contact them and explain the situation and ask their position on what to do.

jesudaughter:
Thank you

Please is it same as monzo?
Do they offer debit card?
Can I use their debit card to buy crypto?

What's the link or app for account opening.
Happy Sunday�


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Try starling, I just opened a starling account.......

Oga Erico2k2, would not like this........ I am now forcefully, joining the soro soke generation..........

Monzo & Starling now on tap..........

Yes to both questions, they're both digital only banks and you get debit cards.
Doesn't mean they're less safe, your money is protected by the deposit guarantee scheme as well.

justwise:
That is the system i'm referring to, not contact a govt official privately through whatsapp to get something done. The indiviaul will charger whatever he wants and probably pocket some of that money.

We should stop encouraging this sort of thing, Its only helping few corrupt officials

I also think you didn't quite understand all Cyberknight extensively explained.
His point is that the only process for obtaining a PCC in Nigeria is informally official, you can put it that way, as a variable amount of money must pass through a police officer in the records department in cash to secure the document.

I've also done the PCC for myself and on behalf of someone abroad, and that was exactly the process.
If I need another I definitely won't pay 110 pounds for it and would default back to this option.

Osed:
Good evening all, if my dependents are in Canada and I am currently in the UK for my Post-graduate studies and they need to come over here.
Do they need to show maintenance and also do the tuberculosis test? If they need to show maintenance money, can it be in Naira account or Canadian bank?

a. https://www.gov.uk/student-visa/money - (not sure if this is nationality or residence based).
b. No, as long as they've not been in one of the countries listed for TB tests in the last 6 months.

faks10:
Hello house, on dependant visa, what do they mean by writing:

Observ: Dependant No Work No Business
No Public Fund.

If it's a mistake, please what can be done?

Scroll up, there's a link someone posted for contacting the HO about such errors.

munachiugwudi:
Hi Ablecrystal, please can you advise how you were able to call UKVI. I have not been able to reach them to speak with an agent. My passport was returned with error on my vignette (validity period for 1 day only) and no decision mail was attached. I have sent a paid email to UKVI and they have given me 15 working days to respond. However, that's a long time for me. Please assist.

Telephone: +44 (0)300 790 6268
Monday to Friday (excluding bank holidays), 8am to 8pm UK local time
Saturday and Sunday, 9:30am to 4:30pm UK local time
If you cannot contact UK 0300 numbers, use +44 (0)203 875 4669.

marylandcakes:
So you guys are still arguing about the wife of the terrorist?

Her not being allowed back into the country has nothing to do about the colour of her skin. It’s more to do with the nature of her crime.
Like someone mentioned here the two British born Nigerian terrorists are black and are serving their sentence here in the uk. This lady in question is not even remorseful for her crimes. I saw the interview and she had defiance written all over her. She can go to her husband’s country of Netherlands or her parents birth country but no country wants a threat of her grooming other young women which is likely to happen. She has already pledged alliance to the state of Isis and denounced her British national by doing that. They were warned. You can’t eat your cake and have it.

The wind rush is about those commonwealth countries that came at a very tender age and never bothered to regularise their papers. All their documents were destroyed during Theresa May’s tenure as Home Secretary. These windrush kids were treated unfairly . But speak to other Caribbeans and they will say why did these people not regularise their papers? Some of them were actually deported. There’s no excuse for the way they were treated because there are white British borns who have never owned a passport. The home office has apologised and compensated most of them.
Despite this you can’t compare the two cases as they are not related.

Not quite true unfortunately, most of them are still waiting for suitable compensation.
In some cases the compensation offered was unacceptable - people lost jobs, incomes, ran up debts, borrowed money, lost homes, had to pay expensive legal fees and so forth.

justwise:
That is just ignorant on their part, how will you live in a country as an immigrant without a passport? If you don't need it in those days how about now? You wanted the immigration to just believe his explanation without any paper evidence to support it?

Bro everything is not racism or discrimination, we have to acknowledge when mistake is made and learn from it.

We sometimes use racism to cover our shortcomings.

Yes, because the law said so.
Commonwealth citizens who had arrived before 1973 had ILR.
The problem was that for many people who were not well educated or had lived lives on the fringes of society, gathering documentation to prove their residency wasn't always easy. The fault was the government's, it was well aware that many of these persons were unable to prove their residency and had maintained a record of the landing cards it used to record the names of Carribbean arrivals in those days. Then the government destroyed those records and then now moved the burden of proof to their victims.

In other words, you could be a 60 year old west Indian in the UK, and when you interface with the government, you are told you are deemed to be illegal and should prove otherwise by the very same government which is well aware that an elderly west Indian living in the UK is likely to be a Commonwealth arrival with automatic ILR. The government ignores the fact that you've got records of tax and NI payments going back decades, and asks you for documents that you had never needed before to prove you arrived before 1973.

If you have never really understood the Windrush scandal, it's not something to be explained here, you need to read up about it and understand the issues involved - the fact that you asked those questions shows you dont know the issues involved.

nihilistjnr:
The guy you mentioned cannot have gone back to Jamaica after spending 40 years in the UK with the same passport he arrived with in the 60s, so he must have had to fill out forms.

Which forms did he fill out? Which paperwork did he use to leave the UK.?

You thirst for knowledge, but you have still not done your assigned reading.

justwise:
That is just ignorant on their part, how will you live in a country as an immigrant without a passport? If you don't need it in those days how about now? You wanted the immigration to just believe his explanation without any paper evidence to support it?

Bro everything is not racism or discrimination, we have to acknowledge when mistake is made and learn from it.

We sometimes use racism to cover our shortcomings.

There is a difference between the west Indians and us - the west Indians, descendants of enslaved persons, were brought up to think of Britain as "the mother country", and basically home. For most of them, coming here in those days was like someone moving from my village to Lagos.

So you can't look at them with the eyes of 2021 when the world is so firmly divided with borders and judge their actions or inactions, it was a very different world then, so different that many of us now can't imagine it.

On a somewhat related note, I have an uncle who had a west Indian wife and family in London in those days who did a bit of the occasional 3-day weekend tripping to London we used to hear about in the late 70s and 80s when it was doable for generally comfortable people. He stopped going to the UK after 87 when Thatcher brought in visas because he found the application process very annoying. He eventually went again in 2006 when they stopped all that going to the high commission stuff. It sounds funny to us, but I can understand it when those of them who were used to just getting up and packing a bag found it difficult to adapt to filling forms and printing out bank statements (especially in the days when the banks used to use those long horizontal printouts which when you have 6 months transactions could become a huge load).

testmo:
Hello People, Please, my wife and daughter applied last Friday 12th March standard visa, but a mail came in few minutes ago that my daughter's travel document is ready for collection. Please what is the implication of this. Because i think stand is 15 working days.

Go and collect the passport. That's the only way you will know.

nihilistjnr:
In other words, you don't know how the man left the country.

It's Ok, you can take a seat and rest now.

I shall do what you suggested.
I realised that given that you haven't any knowledge of the whole matter, pursuing a discussion about it was ultimately futile.

nihilistjnr:
You're making my point for me sef.

Ok your guy came to the UK with no paperwork at all

He lived here for 40 years and never bothered to register with home office and never bothered to get his British passport.

But you're the same person telling me the man left UK and went to Jamaica

Now I'm asking you...with what paperwork sir? What papers did he use to leave the country? Is he a disciple of Apostle Suleiman?

A quick googling will give you the information you seek but do not have about the immigration issues.

nihilistjnr:
Lets be logical

You came to UK on a Visa but never left

You lived here for 40 years but never bothered to update Home Office

40 years later you traveled out of the country to Jamaica - but you dont have a UK passport - How did you even get out of the country in the firts place?

Now you wan to come back to the UK - using what paperwork sir?

Addressing your lack of knowledge about historic immigration issues, prior to 1 January 1973, anyone from the Commonwealth who moved to the UK automatically had full residence rights. In those days, even Nigerians just needed to buy a ticket and come. No visas were needed, and in may cases, some didn't even need passports, like the west Indians, some of whom came as children with their names written in on a parent's passport.

So many people came and lived here for years and didn't bother with paperwork because they thought they didn't need to, just like millions of native born citizens.

nihilistjnr:
Can you explain how your guy has legal right to stay but was kicked out then?



UK Citizenship is a privilege not a right if you were not born a white Brit

Jolly good, you;ve just admitted you accept and support racism.
No need to argue further.

nihilistjnr:
Don't conflate issues.

Windrush has nothing to do with Shemima Begum.

Many of the Windrush guys did not register for Passport, and were largely victims of administrative errors. The guy you mention lived in UK for 40 years without regularising his stay - whose fault is that?

Michael Adebolajo and his friend who commited their acts of Terrorism on UK soil are still sitting in UK prisons.
Shemima Begum wasn't even kicked out the country - she left willingly. It was only after she had left the UK to go and pledge allegiance to IS and breed soldiers for them that UK government decided to lock the gate behind her.

You don't even understand the issue.
The guy in that case ALREADY had the legal right to live in the UK, just like all the Windrush people.
But it was denied to him. That is the point of the comparison.

That is the issue.
Begum is not a naturalised citizen, her parents are.
She is a citizen by birth (remember at one point they were debating how to allow her baby son, who later died, to be brought back to the UK to live with the parents, because his citizenship was not in question of course, he had derived it from his mother before she was stripped of hers).

And saying the Windrush people were victims of administrative errors - my goodness.
Those were no errors, they were deliberate acts.
How many people have passports - why do you need a passport when you have legal residence and citizenship and you don't need to travel?

justwise:
This got nothing to do with being 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen, some are just playing race card here which is embarrassing . How about Jack Letts? He was born in this country to a Canadian father and a British mother all as white as snow, he was also stripped of his British citizenship and his parents jailed for supporting him while he was fighting with ISIS. So is that also racist?

Measures and laws which appear non-discriminatory on their face may have intended or unintended consequences which unfairly place a segment of the population at a disadvantage as compared to others.

In this case, those at a disadvantage are those defined by the recency of their family's residence in the UK.

justwise:
Listen you are talking about something that may or may not happen in future, that is entirely difference argument.

My brother, you just made my point.

The future is unknowable, and that is why those making noise now are making the noise.

As an aside, the whole nauseating Windrush matter should give a pointer to what can happen to you when your skin is not white and they decide to question your citizenship. Despite all the injustices heaped upon those west Indians many of whom arrived when they were legally British subjects or before their legal right to come to the UK was legislated away, the government is still beating about the bush in terms of recognising their rights.

There is one seriously unjust case where a man who came here as a child in the 60s (when he was allowed to), lived here all his life, then went back to Jamaica to attend his mother's funeral, and was unlawfully denied entry to the UK for 9 years thereafter. When he was finally allowed back in 2018, he applied for citizenship, but was given ILR instead and told that despite living here for 40 years, you have to be in the UK for the 5 years preceding an application to get citizenship, When his lawyer naturally pointed out that his client would have been in the UK 5 years ago if not for the fact that he had been unlawfully refused entry to his own country, the Home Secretary said sorry, that's the law. You have to wait another 5 years.

But after Mandela won the election in South Africa in 1994, thousands of white South Africans simply packed up and moved to the UK en masse.
Who said skin colour doesn't matter?

justwise:
She has, more than once and lost

The Supreme Court actually did not put an end to her case, they said she can't come to the UK to participate in her case at last instance.

justwise:
This got nothing to do with being 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen, some are just playing race card here which is embarrassing . How about Jack Letts? He was born in this country to a Canadian father and a British mother all as white as snow, he was also stripped of his British citizenship and his parents jailed for supporting him while he was fighting with ISIS. So is that also racist?

I understand the issues involved well and have actually been involved in a discussion about this ad nauseam at the time Javid took the original decision.

The point, which is what JCWI and the rest are belabouring, is that while Begum's actions are extremely condemnable, the larger principle is that a second-generation Brit can be stripped of citizenship and sent back to a land they may never have known. NOT a naturalised immigrant, mark you, but their descendants. Ultimately, that renders UK citizenship of two categories, one for those whose ancestors were here when the Romans came, or who came generations ago (virtually all 'white') and one for those whose parents or ascendants arrived recently (generally of darker skin colours).

That, devoid of emotion, is the point at issue.

icon8:
If a white-looking person says this, we will all be up in arms screaming racism. Alas, “we” seem to be our own worst enemies.

Your post has no basis in law, just so you know. A child born on British soil to a settled parent is an automatic British citizen. As British as it gets. No matter where the parent came from, once they attain settled status, any children born of them afterwards is a British citizen at birth. That’s the law!

I’m not one to play the race card, but this case reeks of racism and islamophobia, and sets a very dangerous precedent like others have rightly suggested. It’s that Jihad-loving girl today but it could be anyone’s child tomorrow, for a far less crime. If the colour of her skin were to be white, she would have been treated differently. I denounce her and her association with the so-called Islamic State, but she’s British and should have been brought back home and tried in a British court, under British law, and sent to a British jail if found guilty. Not passed on to her parent’s birth country that she never had any connection to.

By your logic, because the PM’s father is Turkish (although born in the UK), the Johnson family should be sent to Turkey if they commit a crime, because according to you, the father’s father was not born here, they applied to live here blah blah blah, and are therefore second class British citizens. But you wouldn’t say that, would you? Why because they look white to you and the grandfather was clever to have changed his name from Osman Kemal to Wilfred Johnson. If the girl's name were to be Sharon Bellingham instead of Shemima Begum, you all will be singing a different tune.

Some of you are just full of inferiority complex and believe the white skin is superior to yours. As for me, my children are not second class to nobody in this land (and they know that). I may be second class, I understand that, and that’s fine because I’m a bloody immigrant. But my children and their children? No way! I’ve paid that price for them. Everyone’s parents came from somewhere, and it doesn’t matter how long ago. Even the Queen’s family came from Germany and changed their name to Windsor to sound British somewhere along the line. So was her husband Philip, who was Greek but also changed his name to appear English. But all that does not matter because they all look white to you?

You may gloat all you want about this case, but they are only starting with their discrimination, and the girl’s case was just the litmus test. Like someone said, the day someone wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and decides to revoke your children’s legitimate citizenship because their parents or parents’ parents were immigrants, you will understand what precedent means and why you should be careful what you wish for.

Enough of the rant. Back to work!

Best comment I've read on this matter.

imback:
Hi folks,

With the new student scheme, if you bring in your dependants along and switch to a skilled work visa after three years (1 year student + 2 years post study), will you need to pay for dependants to switch as well or is that free?

If it isn’t, is it then better to bring in dependants after you’ve switched to a skilled visa, to save ££?

Thanks in advance for your time.

Remember that the Home Office is a profit-making venture.

Divine88:
Agreed!! But how do you answer the part about “UK addresses lived in the last 3 years” for a newbie to the UK? No wonder they were been ask “digital confirmation” et al.

If I remember correctly, you just give your current UK address only. There's a section where you indicate if your previous address was outside the UK.