Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 8:01pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
Isaiah 7 New International Version The Sign of Immanuel 7 When Ahaz(A) son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, was king of Judah, King Rezin(B) of Aram(C) and Pekah(D) son of Remaliah(E) king of Israel marched up to fight against Jerusalem, but they could not overpower it. 2 Now the house of David(F) was told, “Aram has allied itself with[a] Ephraim(G)”; so the hearts of Ahaz and his people were shaken,(H) as the trees of the forest are shaken by the wind. 3 Then the Lord said to Isaiah, “Go out, you and your son Shear-Jashub,[b](I) to meet Ahaz at the end of the aqueduct of the Upper Pool, on the road to the Launderer’s Field.(J) 4 Say to him, ‘Be careful, keep calm(K) and don’t be afraid.(L) Do not lose heart(M) because of these two smoldering stubs(N) of firewood—because of the fierce anger(O) of Rezin and Aram and of the son of Remaliah.(P) 5 Aram, Ephraim and Remaliah’s(Q) son have plotted(R) your ruin, saying, 6 “Let us invade Judah; let us tear it apart and divide it among ourselves, and make the son of Tabeel king over it.” 7 Yet this is what the Sovereign Lord says  S) “‘It will not take place, it will not happen,(T) 8 for the head of Aram is Damascus,(U) and the head of Damascus is only Rezin.(V) Within sixty-five years Ephraim will be too shattered(W) to be a people. 9 The head of Ephraim is Samaria,(X) and the head of Samaria is only Remaliah’s son. If you do not stand(Y) firm in your faith,(Z) you will not stand at all.’”(AA) 10 Again the Lord spoke to Ahaz, 11 “Ask the Lord your God for a sign,(AB) whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights.(AC)” 12 But Ahaz said, “I will not ask; I will not put the Lord to the test.(AD)” 13 Then Isaiah said, “Hear now, you house of David!(AE) Is it not enough(AF) to try the patience of humans? Will you try the patience(AG) of my God(AH) also? 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[c] a sign  AI) The virgin[d](AJ) will conceive and give birth to a son,(AK) and[e] will call him Immanuel.[f](AL) 15 He will be eating curds(AM) and honey(AN) when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, 16 for before the boy knows(AO) enough to reject the wrong and choose the right,(AP) the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste.(AQ) 17 The Lord will bring on you and on your people and on the house of your father a time unlike any since Ephraim broke away(AR) from Judah—he will bring the king of Assyria.(AS)” @ Petra @ dantedasz |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 8:46am On Jun 29, 2020 |
Good morning all. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 5:18pm On Jun 28, 2020 |
Daejoyoung: It's not a research, it's my opinion. Nobody knows what happened at that time. Ok. Thanks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 2:40pm On Jun 28, 2020 |
Dantedasz: Mark and John do not mention the virgin birth because it NEVER happened. Take away the 1st chapters of Luke and Mathew that talk about a virgin birth and then you realise the virgin birth is not mentioned anywhere by any of the Christian founding fathers. The virgin birth was similar to other virgin births of other man gods in Ancient Rome. The virgin birth was a clever insertion into the bible by the writers of Luke and Mathew gospels and that is why Paul does not talk about it in his numerous letters because such an event was not known to the early Christians. You guys need to do a little research and stop being afraid to ask questions! Please provide some links to this. Thank you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 2:38pm On Jun 28, 2020 |
Daejoyoung: I am a Christian, but I already know all this. I cannot say with certainty that it was an insertion though, I'll say that it was probably part of the oral stories about jesus making waves at the time which matthew and luke adopted for perhaps different reasons.
Matthew probably believed it fulfilled the prophecy in Isaiah 7, while Luke may have just heard it somewhere and it may have been popular in his circle. The others may have ignored the story or probably tossed it aside as a rumour since Mary was probably no longer alive to give the true account. Please do you have links to such research. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 12:43pm On Jun 28, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: First, Nothing Can Be Gained from your Question Only Foreseeable Ridicule of the Most High!
Secondly, Almost every Answer here has been to the effect that your question is not gainful in anyway, yet you continue to seek an Answer.
The Answer which Remains is Obviously the Answer Tending to Insult the Dignity and Holiness of the Most High!
For After all these Answers, if you had a contrary answer, you would have presented it before now, but you do not have one.
And you are still seeking. What else could you be seeking, if not the Insult of God, while hiding in the darkness that you are seeking "deeper knowledge" even when everyone above has told you that there is no deeper knowledge.
Well seek on, and let us see if your search shall reveal something Good! It appears you are crying more than the bereaved. If you don't know the answer to what I seek why not be silent and observe after all I am not using your data to browse neither did I collect money for data from you. This is a public forum. I am not one of those you brow beat with empty bluster. Thank you. The search for answers to the question in the OP continues.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 11:52am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: I do not believe you Truly care for the answer but you are rather trying to generate heat so that the Antichrists and Haters of God can come and insult the Lord some more while also insulting us for believing in Him and Following Him, Just As is Written! This is the issue with a lot of us. Seeing antichrist in every corner and in their dreams. If you do not know the answer to the questions in the OP, isn't it better to not comment but rather wait for people with deeper knowledge of the scriptures to come and give us the answers. We all learn every day but I doubt if one can attain knowledge when anything you do not understand or know the answer to should be attributed to an antichrist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 8:47am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Themadam, after all these Answers, are you saying that none have satisfactorily answered your query?
Because I think they have What is your own opinion and answer sir? Once again the question is Why is Apostle Paul silent on the virgin birth of our Lord Jesus? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 8:44am On Jun 28, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: The virgin birth is not a foundation of Christianity (maybe it is for Catholicism). The sacrificial death and resurrection of Christ is the foundation of Christianity. You are contradicting yourself sir. First of all you say the virgin birth of our lord Jesus is not the foundation of christianity. Then you in the next breath say maybe it is for Catholics. My question to you is how do we get to the death and resurrection of our lord Jesus without the virgin birth? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 6:50am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Kenneth4u205: Paul was an apostle to the gentiles.he was commissioned by Jesus to preach mainly to the gentiles(non Jews ). It is only the Jews that need to be convinced that he was born by a virgin before they will believe.But gentiles don't need those proof.they only need the saving power of his death and resurrection.tell me something.has your biological father ever told any of his children if your mother was a virgin or not before the slept together ?. The answer is no .because it has nothing to do with the love the both have for you now @bolded, How does this connect to the question I am asking in the original post? Which is why is the Apostle Paul who wrote 14 books in the new testament of the Bible silent on the virgin birth of Jesus Christ ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 5:44am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Cerebrae: Mary was and is not the focus of the Gospel. CHRIST is the main focus, everything in the scriptures should point at Jesus Christ.
However, Paul mentioned something close in his letter to the Galatians, Chapter 4
Thank you Galatians 4 verse 4 does not talk about anything on a virgin birth sir. In Galatians,the Apostle Paul is talking of a normal child birth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 5:32am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Chiedu4Trump: I guess you're a baby christian or just aint to bright
The Gospel is that Jesus died for our sins not that He was born by a virgin
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Moslems agree that Jesus was born of a virgin & not saved
Moslems reject that Jesus died & rose again, that's what's save not the birth I am a baby Christian. I am not bright. You sound very arrogant and believe so much in your self importance that with all your blustering and puffing you failed to answer the simple question and then jumped to Moslems agreement that Jesus was born of a virgin. Mr know-it-all that is certainly not the answer to the question I am asking in the original post. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 12:03am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Douglaufuoma: st Paul is not the only person that fail to write about the blessed mother Mary, even Peter, James and others didn't give account of her. again the Bible is written for u to believe that Jesus was made man and dead for our sins, more also for u to believe the supreme power of God. Mary is just the door Jesus used to become man, so more emphasis is on Jesus not Mary. I am not trying to dispute your points but don't you find it strange that Apostles Paul,Peter and James do not once mention the miracle of the virgin birth of our lord Jesus? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 12:00am On Jun 28, 2020 |
Cerebrae: As much as the Birth of Christ is important, it solely does not form the foundation of Christianity.
The Birth, Death, Resurrection and Ascension of Christ... These are the basis of the Gospel So why does Apostle Paul fail to mention it even once in all the 14 books he wrote in the New testament. Does it not seem strange to you? |
Christianity Etc › Paul And His Loud Silence On The Virgin Birth. by TheMadame(op): 11:46pm On Jun 27, 2020 |
Good day everyone. First of all I wish to state that I am a Christian,however I am a Christian that asks questions. My question concerns the virgon birth of our lord Jesus Christ which is recorded in the Holy Bible in the gospels of Mathew and Luke. The Apostle Paul wrote 14 books in the new testament. He wrote a lot of letters to various churches in different towns and countries admonishing Christian's on how to live a good life but he never once mentions the divine virgin birth of our lord Jesus. Please I need people who are well versed in the Bible study to explain this to me and others who might have this same question. Is it that Apostle Paul was not aware of the virgin birth being a late convert to Christianity or was there a hidden reason why he fails to mention the virgin birth in any of his letters? I am intrigued because the virgin birth of Jesus is the foundation of Christianity. I appreciate any answers to my questions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mankind And God. by TheMadame(op): 5:27am On May 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: First of all Maximus69 is a man!
As i've said the book answered all your questions but let me address just two so if you're satisfied then you go get the book but if not then you continue on your search!
God is only self-existent, he had no beginning nor end of days, he created all things according to the book (Bible).
Of course most inquisitive people will ask "where did he come from?" just to be sure they're not been deluded with yet another common human fabrications. But as an intellectual i consider the pros and cons of all wind of teaching before i conclude on what to do.
Humans are the only intelligent creatures on the only planet with life (earth) and the book (Bible) said humans need God's guidance to coexist peacefully. Jeremiah 10:23 So if humans for thousands of years failed woefully to cultivate LOVE JOY and PEACE in our society, and the book said God will make it possible amongst his worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} i strongly believe the stage is set to unravel all these fairytales!
Let's see if that's going to be possible with the way mankind has been devastated with racism till now!
To my shocking surprise i found a religious group that has LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeating their midst during a time when HATRED, SADNESS and WAR is the order of the day! Have you considered the point that this religious book,you keep on quoting,some people do not believe it to be the true words of God? Secondly how do you know for sure that Earth is the only planet inhabited by human forms? Has science visited all the discovered planets in the galaxy for you to conclude that Earth is the only planet with life forms? Why would a creator of such a vast galaxy of planets put life forms on only one planet so that the objective of this creator is for his creations to worship him/her in order to go to heaven? And you talk of a creator just destroying his/her creations just like a petulant child that throws his/her toys out of a pram? I doubt if what you described can be the intellectual omniscient, omnipotent all wise creator of the universe. This is why I told you I don't want cut and paste free books which you read and regurgitate on this forum. I want your personal brain process of the relationship between God and mankind. NB:I know you are a man but do you know I am a woman? You refered to me as Sir first,so I referred to you as ma. No hard feelings. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mankind And God. by TheMadame(op): 4:56pm On May 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Hmmmmmmmm Since 2013 seven years ago! 
OK you may ask your questions one after the other and get the answer to each.
Please one at a time!  Madam, The questions are still as relevant as there were in 2013. Go back to the OP and read the questions. Thank you ma. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mankind And God. by TheMadame(op): 3:09pm On May 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: The book is FREE and it has all the answers you seek, but if you've gotten the choice of answers you seek it's OK, your friends will attend to you Sir!
Thanks!  Tell me what the book says in your own words. Thank you madam. Your contribution is appreciated ma. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Clerics Organising Sex Slavery Of Young Girls BBC by TheMadame(f): 2:04pm On May 17, 2020 |
AntiChristian: That shows one thing!
A lot of Muslims are scriptural while most Christians acts outside their Bible.
The same Holy Spirit you have that makes you abuse anyone you feel like is the same one Pastor Adeboye has that makes Jesus drink his tea.
This pastors too can lay claim to the Holy Spirit but Satan tempted them just like your Jesus. Oga, What is bad is bad! A BBC investigation showed that young girls are being pimped_ out by imams in Iraq and the most logical answer you could give was to point to the Christian's abusing little boys? In your logic now if you are accused of a wrong doing,you now point at your next door neighbour doing the same evil thing to justify the evil? How do people reason in such a twisted and sick manner? So if you murder a person, and you are caught you now justify the murder by pointing at Mr pig your next door neighbour and say:-"Mr Pig is killing people too!" Do two wrongs make a bad and nasty thing right? What a sick and twisted way of thinking! Yuck!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mankind And God. by TheMadame(op): 1:04pm On May 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Contact Jehovah's Witnesses and ask for this book! Did you read the thread at all before jumping in advertising your book? I don't want copy and paste answers. I am asking you to relay your personal relationship with God and why man is on earth. Is it just to worship God as someone has said? What is the relationship between freewill and determinism? Can man be free with an omniscient God? What is the relationship between morality and the bible? Can mankind be a moral being without the admonition of the bible? So sir,I am not looking to buy a book. I seek for personal human answers. Thank you. |
Autos › Re: OLIVERJAID - Where Is Our Container? by TheMadame(f): 4:34pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
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Autos › Re: My experience with clearing agent on Nairaland by TheMadame(f): 3:25pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
Bump!! More tales from the stable of oliverjaid. |
Autos › Re: My Horrible Experience With A Dishonest Clearing Agent (oliverjiad) by TheMadame(f): 7:29am On Feb 07, 2020 |
asids55: I really hate to do this but mr oliverjihad as taken me as a fool for the past three weeks...i contacted him over a year ago for quotes on clearing my truck (he sounded honest to me so i decided to stick with him..which i ended up regreting),my truck got to lagos on the 30th of july,i meet with him on the 31st which was a friday(he claimed he could clear the truck on that friday and requested i came to tin can,on getting there he later told me that nothing could be done till on monday,but he will be starting the process on that same friday and that i should make the payment to his account which i did...his draging me to tin can was just to tie the deal down cause i was having second thoughts ) ,on monday,i called him to know the status of my truck and he told me he was yet to get to tin can ,that he will place a call to me when he gets there,after an hour,he called me to tell me that he will be charging me an extra 50k for reasons i did not know,i explained to him that we had a deal on a particular amount which i already paid and i did not understand why he would be charging me extra 50k without any warning..he said they have started placing demurage on my truck and that he borowed some money to clear the truck and that i needed to pay him back,he later said he will be calling me to tell me when i should come..at around 4pm i called him and he said i should start coming over,i was without cash that day and i was hoping i could get money from atm,on getting there,my bank had no network,luckily for me,my driver had little cash with him so we went to another bank,on getting there too there was still no network(at this time he started calling me evey 10 minutes reminding me that i needed to make it to tin can that same day)i tried explaining to him the situation on ground that i was stranded and i could not make it there but i could the following day,but he insisted i did and that demurage will be placed on the truck for the following day if they did not clear the truck on that Same monday,luckily for me network came up and i was able to get money off the atm(this was around 6pm) i took bike down to tin can and i was able to make it there around 7pm,on getting der ,he started another story on why i needed to pay him the extra 50k and that the truck was still at the terminal until i paid up,i sha negotiated with him and agreed to pay 35k(i paid cause i just wanted to leave there with my truck)..after we agreed on the 35k he placed a call to someone right in front of me to bring out the truck from the terminal(please take note of this)..after about 20 minutes he called the same person again and told me that they have taken the truck out,we went to an atm,i gave him the 35k ,i got my documents,and went to inspect the truck..now this is where it gets interesting...while inspecting the truck,my driver noticed that the spear tyre with the rim was missing (which is worth over 50k),i confronted him and he denied that he knew nothing about the tyre(mehn this guy can be really convincing,he even swore on his kids that he knew nothing about it,he also claimed that it must have been the guys from the shipping company that must have stolen it which i believed cause i have heard of such stories but not from grimaldi though),on hearing that, i told him not to worry that i belived him,we jumpstarted the truck and we left(i still had to spend an extra 16k trying to get home thanks to some touts who accosted me nd my driver and also some lastma officials that wanted to take my truck away that night..i got home for after 12 ),the next day,i really dont know what got to me but i just decided to check the guys thread to see if he had uploaded pics of my truck (as per advert ),and i was shocked at what i saw..mr oliverjihad uploaded a picture of my truck taken in the afternoon at the same spot where i went to pick it up the previous night with my extra tyre still there..i was so furious that i had to confront him with a nasty message..mehnn..this guy no gree ohh,he still denied the whole thing claiming that he knew nothing about the tyre and that they just forwarded the picture he uploaded to him,i was like where you not the one that called someone right in front of me to bring out the truck from the terminal around 7pm the previous night(he could not give me an answer to this),and he also told me himself that my truck was still at the terminal and that demurage will be placed on it if i did not make it there the same day.. i just told him to get my tyre to me so i dont get to bring this out here,but for the past three weeks the guy as been given me sily excuses,the first week was used to investigate something he stole,the second week was to come up with money which he did not want to pay me,and the third week,which was last week,he told me that he had dispensal error for an online transaction and it will take 8 business days for them to fix the problem(when i had this i was so furious,dispensal error to transfer via atm??where tfck does that happen )and going to beg this guy agin right here on nl to either produce my tyre (which am sure he already sold) or pay me my money cause if this does not work,i will be taking some navy men to his office to lock him up in their guard room. |
Autos › Re: OLIVERJAID - Where Is Our Container? by TheMadame(f): 7:07am On Feb 07, 2020 |
xreal: So him criminality don tey sef.
Mscheeeew Yes. Some old members can say a lot about many characters parading themselves as saints on this forum. If you read the link of the thread on the missing truck tyre and compare it to the Amdmans thread you will see similar character traits. If someone comes to you on Nairaland claiming he is selling something the onus is on the buyer to use goggle to do due diligence on his antecedents. |
Autos › Re: OLIVERJAID - Where Is Our Container? by TheMadame(f): 6:31am On Feb 07, 2020 |
I would advise anyone engaging a business deal of a y kind to always goggle the name of the person properly before commencing any deals. If Amdman had done due diligence before committing money he would have discovered numerous threads on Nairaland about this character oliverjaid. Here is a thread where he was accused of removing a tyre from a truck he cleared. It is a long read but it should open some eyes. https://www.nairaland.com/2552022/horrible-experience-dishonest-clearing-agent#37323710 |
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Health › Re: Help Save My Daughter Sight by TheMadame(f): 11:07pm On Oct 23, 2019 |
Motirayo2018: Good evening ma ,thanks so much for your response Madam, Good evening, I salute your and your daughters courage. Rest assured that God will always find a way to take care of his own. |
Health › Re: Help Save My Daughter Sight by TheMadame(f): 11:04pm On Oct 23, 2019 |
ifyalways: Good evening ma. I will mention send you the account details via Pm however, you should know that we currently have enough money to cover the surgery bills bar any unforseen circumstance. Thank you ma and God bless. Good day ma, I saw the PM alert but sadly I no longer possess the password to that email. Is there any other way to make a widows mite contribution towards this noble effort? |
Health › Re: Help Save My Daughter Sight by TheMadame(f): 5:36pm On Oct 23, 2019 |
ifyalways: No wahala at all. Zaynie will sort out the payment later. Take care of Fauziyat.  Good day ifyalways I just saw your mention this evening because I haven't been regular on Nairaland for some time . Please can an account be provided for my contribution to Fauziyat. Sorry for the late response. |
Health › Re: Graphics designer you will always beed by TheMadame(f): 10:39am On Sep 08, 2019 |
Oladoyin100: I can definitely provide it, if needs be.. That is what am even expecting people to ask, thanks so much for kind thought Good. Please provide the medical records and doctors reports on the ailment/ailments. Then we can take it from there. |
Health › Re: Graphics designer you will always beed by TheMadame(f): 9:13am On Sep 07, 2019 |
Strange that you opened this account today. Can you furnish the forum with doctors reports or medical records of your fathers ailment? People are ready to help but the onus is on you to provide proof that your dad is indeed I'll. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Newcastle United Vs Arsenal (0 - 1) On 11th August 2019 by TheMadame(f): 2:13pm On Aug 11, 2019 |
AAA593: These two guys behind our striker are no good o. Including miki self. Iwobi is far better than them. Selling iwobi is one grave mistake. When you buy a player for over 70 million pound's,you have to sell some of your assets to balance the books. |