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Dtruthspeaker:
So as Linda Ikeji, Nairaland, Punch, CNN, Al-Jazeera etc report the same news, therefore they must have copied from someone, does that make sense?

Ancient Babylonian first kingdom existed around the years 1894 to 1595 BC.

How rational human being could equate this time frame and dissemination of information with 2025 of Nairaland and Linda Ikeji or CNN just beats me hollow.


During these times and era few people were literate and messages were written painstakingly by hand.
Nowadays with a click of a button I am submitting this post and you are comparing it to men writing of tablets of stone and cuneiform.

Goosethetruth:
These are myths plagiarised from earlier myths from ancient Babylonian Civilisations that existed long before the Bible was cobbled together. The two creation stories in Genesis chapters 1&2 are written by two different writers. If you study the two chapters carefully you notice that the writing style and composure are vastly different. One writer talks about the creation being the work of the Eloihim while the second creation story is credited to Yahweh. These are two different deities in fact the Go's El is a superior God to Yahweh but some how over the course of history the Jews replaced El with Yahweh as the main God of Israel.
My point is that these two creation stories which have their source in ancient Babylon are written bu two different unknown authors. The compiler / editor of the book of Genesis decided in his wisdom to join the two stories in one book as if they are a continuous story.
These are two different stories describing a single event from different perspectives of two different writers.
Once you understand this point the mystery disappears. There are no originals of these Bible stories that are stories that have been translated,copied,re-copied,edited,redacted and mistranslated ad nauseam. These are basically the words and thoughts of humans passed off mischievously as the infallible words of a God for mind control.

Interesting take. Thanks a lot.
My conclusion on this issue two years ago before the fanatics took over and tried to derail the thread was that almost every ancient civilisation has this creation stories in one form or the other because mankind always try to explain their etymology.
So it would not be a strange thing if these oral traditions and myths were copied from each other.

Thank you for your take on the issue and the enlightenment. Appreciated.

Goosethetruth:
Watch the YouTube video made by Dr Paul Ezike on the state of insecurity in his village called Lilu in Anambra State.
In this video he explains how the Lilu village has become a desolate area,completely over run by terrorists and terrorism activity.
He claims all houses in Lilu have been abandoned to these criminals. In fact he states that the traditional ruler of Lilu has abandoned his throne and taken to his heels.
The Anambra State government needs to look into this issue if terrorists can be allowed to sack a whole village and turn it into their camp for terrorist activity and kidnapping.
Members of this forum from this Lilu village need to speak out and if this Dr Paul Ezike is lying they should expose him.

Cc gidgiddy,big koko,Igbopromise,franchasofficia your comments would be appreciated on this burning issue.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxqPTPlddSY?si=ZWZEWcImpmVyPm98

What this person has described here sounds like a war zone than a civilised town.
It is sad that Anambra state has prominent citizens who have blatantly refused to speak out against these terrorists and kidnappers. Anambra state is going back to a state of nature: nasty,brutish and cruel. This is a rule by the man with the biggest weapon.
It is nice that it is an Igbo man that is crying out and telling this story. His name will be written in gold unlike others from his tribe who refuse to speak out against these criminals but rather prefer to blame others for this self inflicted immolation.

confusedlady:
The Nigeria customs operate under the auspices of the World customs organisation (WCO) which is the umbrella body for customs in every country of the world.
The duty of the WCO is to ensure that customs duty is fair,consistent and constant in all countries of the world. This is why import invoices or receipts are almost always calculated in dollars.
Once the cost of the goods+ insurance of goods +Freight of goods= also called CIF( cost+insurance +freight) is calculated in dollars the sum total is converted to the local currency(Naira).
Taxes are now calculated in the following sequence of 5%,10%,20%,50% and 100% depending on the item being imported.

Bear in mind that after the import duty tax. Importers will also pay 7% surcharge as well as VAT.

I hope this gives you a bit of clarity.

You are very correct. Many Nigerians are extremely ignorant of how duties and taxes are calculated. Some even ignorantly think that customs arbitrarily manufacture duty.

1. Duty is calculated based on a harmonised tariff book used in the whole of West Africa in order to have uniform tariffs for all goods.
2. Import duty is calculated based on the atrested invoice provided by the importer which is most times calculated in dollars.
3. Customs convert the amount of money on the invoice into Naira and work out a percentage of duty based on the tariff book.
4. Importers have been known to provide forged and manipulated invoices. This is why customs have a valuation unit with a data Base of prices of goods all over the world for each year.
5. If an importer provides a contested invoice value of his goods then the importer,his clearing agent and the goods are refered to the Valuation unit for final arbitration. Valuation unit ruling on value of goods is usually final.

GAZZUZZ:
Chai stray bullet.

Abeg no defend me o! You go collect! Just Waka pass.

Meanwhile I still stand by kakaki.

Vehicle has been purchased and will be delivered when title docs are ready.

45m is a lot of money, sadly this has happened and insha obatala it will be sorted soon.

Meanwhile just in case you are yet to insult gazzuzz , don't wait till car arrives.

You sound very glib.
Would you personally be happy if someone collected 45 million Naira from you and promised to deliver a car to you in December but by February ending you still have not received the car?
I need a very honest answer from you.

kowalsky:
Sometime Mid October I contacted KakakiAutos, I think the active handle is lanreg95 to help get a 2017 RX 350 FSport. Had a hard time finding the particular spec I wanted in Nigeria so I considered bringing it in from the US.

First contact, swift replies, smooth talk, the entire shenanigans of a sleazy salesman.
I'd read a review by 222martins or so where he bought a GX, so I was pretty much comfortable with doing business with this mofo.

In the space of two weeks or so I transferred about 45 Million to his account.
I was very particular about getting my car to Nigeria before December because well, I wanted to flex on people during Christmas and also because I have a busy schedule, that time would be the only time I'd have time to fix whatever fixables since this was a Copart Vehicle.
I got assurance that this would be in Nigeria that time.

Since paying for this vehicle all I've got are explanations with no evidences whatsoever.

First off. I got two extra bills one because this dude failed to do the FX conversion day I sent him the money. Second for some allegedly unforeseen issues with the vehicle. These extra bills summed up to millions but Fair enough.

December came by. No car. January, same. This guy kept barraging me with listicles of illogical excuses. Apparently this car has not even shipped.

Now, I understand that things can happen with a deal like this but you know what freaking grinds my gears with this mofo - he speaks too much English.

In his head, he's this suave and sleek business man with contextual professional replies for every situation and it’s so fvcking annoying. So much that I've lost my patience, not so much because this car is not in Nigeria but mainly because people like this need to be brought down from that egotistical pedestal they've placed themselves on.

You can't hang on to someone else’s 45M and be doing lingual gymnastics and rubbing phonee all around your English.

Going forward I will be involving my lawyers and we will see where that ends for both of us.

I contemplated against creating this thread but reading this guy's replies on WhatsApp just sent me off the edge. Such an annoying dimwit, thinks he's so smart and posh, Gosh

Good day to you.
Sorry about your unhappy experience.
Please I am only going to say this to you directly and only once.
Keep this thread up and do not take it down or withdraw it. I know they must be applying pressure on you to take your thread down. My sincere advise just keep the thread up to keep up the pressure. This is the only way you can get either your car or your money back.
From my experience of dealing with fraudulent people they will assure you that they will return your money if you take down your thread but I assure you if you take down your thread they will renage and by then you will lose momentum and your car you will not see.
Keep your thread intact. Do not change a word on your title. Also be prepared to involve the appropriate and relevant security agencies into this matter. Escalate the issue through any legal means open to you.
If you bulge to pressure, in the end the car they will give you will not meet your specifications. I know what I am talking about because I have been on Nairaland opposing fraudulent activity for a long time.
Once more I admonish you not to take down or ammend your thread. Escalate legal action. Involve appropriate security agencies. I hope you either get your car or your funds.

Dantedasz:
Certainly.
Inspection can be arranged over the phone number 08124917910.
The vehicle is in my residence in Lagos. You are free to bring your mechanic/electrician or a friend along for a second opinion.
Nothing is being hidden but I assure you this car has zero faults.

Okay,I will get back to you.

Dantedasz:
Nigeria used Mazda Cx7 2007 model up for sale.
Keyless entry.
4 wheel drive.
Excellent air conditioning.
Neat seat covers .
First body and factory paint work.
Excellent engine and excellent 5 gear auto transmission.
AM/FM/5 loader CD player.
This car is in excellent condition and is being sold by the owner due to travelling out of the country. Vehicle is in Ogba area of Lagos state.
Call 08124917910

Good morning can an inspection of this vehicle be arranged?

mightyhaze:
If I was less busy I would flood this thread with videos of yorobba thugs threatening whole ethnic groups not to come out to vote,unless they were going to vote APC.. there are hundreds of such videos...including the ones people were butchered on election grounds,.. I mean matcheted and left for dead,not just booing and bantering words like we see in this video..

Watch this video to the end.


https://twitter.com/Twitnexuz/status/1644672028568428545?t=4i_itsF4rXSEl1CiNsnQLw&s=19

MaxInDHouse:
At least you have your own concept and those living accordingly, go on walking with them!

You are a very very dishonest person masquerading as a Christian. I will say no more to you going forward.

Just read what a twisted and tormented soul wrote about women of which he was born of one....

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who has been covertly blaspheming God and everything about you condemns you.

Everyone can see that the bible never asked these stupid questions, so here you are blaspheming again. You devils don't know how horrible the punishments God is packing for you people as you increase your evils, even your phone will pity you when it starts.

I just checked your profile and discovered I am having a conversation with a twisted and tormented soul.


This a thread created by you denigrating women. I did not know I was talking to a misogynist.

Here is the link that exposes his mental deficiency. I wouldn't be responding to you again.


https://www.nairaland.com/7807521/see-another-reason-why-god#125184514

Dtruthspeaker:
Stupid questions which no reasonable person asks!

You are now venturing into the realms of blasphemy . Are you saying the Bible which is God's word and commandments contain STUPID laws?
Condemn yourself with your own mouth. I can only pray that God should have mercy on your soul and forgive you.

Dtruthspeaker:
The evil you do will do you too. You can as well ask if it is ok to steal.

1.Do not braid hair.
2.Stealing.


Please tell me the correlation between this two in relation to my original post?

It is better to be silent and thought to be foolish,than to post on Nairaland and then remove all doubts. Naa proverb I dey give you so my brother. Take your tongue count the teeth wey dey inside your mouth.

MaxInDHouse:
Do faithful women of old do all these?

YES! But moderately.
That's the import of what you're quoting!

The Bible is a compilation of religious books written under the inspiration of God. The Bible contains God's words and commandments.

Maxinthe house own understanding of these words and commandments of God is to cherry pick which commandments to obey as it suits him and his cohorts. His own understanding of God's words and commandments is to twist and turn God's words and commandments from white to black.His concept of Christianity is to decide which commandments to follow in full or in moderation or to even completely jettison. This kind of Christianity is According to your whims and caprices. I have consistently shown you laws written in the Bible and you have consistently tried to twist these words to suit your JW agenda.
If that is your concept of Christianity then I want no part of it.

MaxInDHouse:
God never said women shouldn't not braid their hair it's your pastors that misinformed you!

Look,I can't keep having a conversation with you if you keep on calling white as black.
I have given screen shots of various bibles and all say the same thing. From my interactions with you the default mode in your arguments are always pastors and atheists. It gets boring after some time. Please try and be a bit original. Don't just keep on repeating what you read in Awake and Watch tower. Read your Bible to comprehend and ask questions.



1st Timothy chapter 2 verse 9


9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you people not already do as you please?

Please if you do not know the answer to questions raised in the OP,you need to stop responding. Let people who have the knowledge respond so that me and you can learn.

MaxInDHouse:
Christian Women should be careful as to how they express themselves.
Their real beauty as believers is not in what they put on rather it's their good manners that really matters.

That's the import of what you're quoting not that faithful women shouldn't braid their hair.

The quotation mentioned several things including jewelries faithful women of ancient times put on jewelries but they don't rely on these things as what makes them beautiful rather they rely on their good manners!

So why is the law in the Bible,which is God's word? Should believers now cherry pick which of God's laws we choose to obey?

MaxInDHouse:
So how do you APPLY what you're quoting in a PRACTICAL sense?

There is no harm in admitting you have no answer to the question raised in the OP,rather than wasting everyone's time .

Here are more different Bibles.

MaxInDHouse:
Is hair braiding not part of cultures?

1st Timothy chapter 2:9.


9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

Dtruthspeaker:
You think we do not see your evil minds as proven your threads and your responses? [/b]You really imagine that we do not see you?

[b]You are an evil person if not the answers you got would have led you to tunderstanding and you would have found yourself not asking these questions.

Wow!
Once again I do not see how this answers the OP.
Should women braid their hair or not? Simple yes or no.
People are so sensitive.

MaxInDHouse:
During the international convention of Jehovah's Witnesses you will see cultural values as each of us attends the convention with our traditional dressing and local delicacies. The only thing that unite us as one family is our faith not cultural values!

How does this relate to the OP?

izonborn098:
that is how they behave, if u counter them they call u name...

I am surprised. I quoted the Bible chapter that opposes braided hair. I asked a simple question and she has been digging up my old threads and writing anti Christ on them.
She should let us learn in peace and not try to derail the thread.

confusedlady:
Anti Christ.

You keep on running all over my threads shouting "anti Christ".
You profer no solutions to the questions asked.
I am lost here.
Could you please bring me up to speed. Have I offended your sensibility?

sonmvayina:
It is rude to read other people's letter without their permission....

You sound like a troll.

sonmvayina:
How did Paul's personal correspondence with his friend Timothy become "the word of God"?

Or the ones he wrote to his frat members ?

Why not tell us how a personalised letter became a part of a religious book read,quoted and followed by millions??

TemplarLandry:
Christianity is a personal race.
Talk to God.

If you don't know the answer to the question asked why not wait for who knows the answer so that me and you can learn instead of just going around in circles and pretending to know the answers. You don't gain any brownie points for pretending to know what you lack knowledge of.

TemplarLandry:
You clearly don't understand what you read.
Ask for Holy Spirit's help for interpretation.

Please I beg you to interpret it for me since the Holy spirit has already interpreted it to you. Thanks.

TemplarLandry:
Very funny.

It is not funny actually because it is in the Bible.

Good day.
I have recently read 1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 9-15. People always talk about the fact that this chapter of the Bible admonishes women to be silent in church and learn from their husbands but are silent on the part about women's dressing in particular braided hairstyles. Verse 9 is the verse on which I seek enlightenment.
I only seek knowledge not quarrel or insults please.


1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 9-15.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

DaddyCoool:
You finally asked the question. I thought you were too scared/shy to ask it. It is not a bad question and you are far from the first person to ask it. Early disciples were asking the same question because people were dying left and right. St. Paul gave them the following answer

Thank you for your comments.