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eleojo23:
Really? No evidence?
And they have been quoting huge figures (amount of money) up and down? Buhari and his people are using their own hands to make a joke of their so-called anti-corruption campaign.
It is corruption to accuse someone of an offence without evidence.

This is a national embarrassment to Nigeria. You tell the whole world that someone stole huge amounts of money only to say later that there is no evidence. And you expect the world to take you seriously?

A probe of NNPC might bend backward into his days as the boss of the corporation and remember there's over 2 billion said to have disappeared from the account of the corporation under his watch.

PentiumPro:
Miracle centers, !
Nothing new.

The same miracle that saw a school or schools Rep Nigeria in an international school debate competition

2kaybiel:
That woman look like urohobo

Urhobo

BushidoBlue:
Omojuwa you are wailing joor....
I heard that wailer's form has finished.
Let me connect you to Yahaya Yusuf, Kunle Olanrewaju and Emeka Uduala
For any spare forms...
Sorry Japhet the form don finish...
PDPIANS, Tanoids and some repentant Zombies don buy the form finish..

Enjoy the 3.3 years of this Administration has left

I am a pdpian

I earlier stated that when in doubt, it is always advised to go to the beginning.

Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus...... The grace is obtainable by knowing who he is and that is only possible through the word.. The BIBLE .....And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses....the things..... The teachings.... The proceedings.... The miracles..... , the same commit thou ......teach same.... Instruct same..... to faithful men.....faithful men..... Believers..... Any believer not just the aboriginal ones...., who shall be able....capacity or anointing for impartation...... to teach others also.
2 Timothy 2:1-2 KJV

1 Tim 3 has already dealt with qualities of a Bishop and Deacons... So I assume you are defending your earlier statement that the church and not the bible is the only guide for Christianity. .....Everything written in the Bible is written for us as an example and guide ....Romans 15v4


The Acts of the Apostles are properly and sufficiently documented in the Bible... As a guide to all believers and your post made it clear that if it is not found in the original instructions if the apostles it is not part of it and the original instructions are in the Bible.

Any thing outside ...practices like avoiding meat on a supposedly Good Friday,rubbing ash on our foreheads and bowing and praying before images or statues are not recorded as acts of the apostles and therefore religion

Papist:
St Paul says to St Timothy:

"[W]hat you have heard from me before
many witnesses entrust to faithful men
who will be able to teach others also" (2
Tim. 2:2). And the early fathers of the church all agree with St Paul.



Pope Clement I
"Through countryside and city [the
apostles] preached, and they appointed
their earliest converts, testing them by the
Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of
future believers. Nor was this a novelty,
for bishops and deacons had been written
about a long time earlier. . . . Our
apostles knew through our Lord Jesus
Christ that there would be strife for the
office of bishop. For this reason, therefore,
having received perfect foreknowledge,
they appointed those who have already
been mentioned and afterwards added the
further provision that, if they should die,
other approved men should succeed to
their ministry" ( Letter to the Corinthians
42:4–5, 44:1–3 [A.D. 80]).
Hegesippus
"When I had come to Rome, I [visited]
Anicetus, whose deacon was Eleutherus.
And after Anicetus [died], Soter
succeeded, and after him Eleutherus. In
each succession and in each city there is
a continuance of that which is proclaimed
by the law, the prophets, and the
Lord" ( Memoirs , cited in Eusebius,
Ecclesiastical History 4:22 [A.D. 180]).
Irenaeus
"It is possible, then, for everyone in every
church, who may wish to know the truth,
to contemplate the tradition of the
apostles which has been made known to
us throughout the whole world. And we
are in a position to enumerate those who
were instituted bishops by the apostles
and their successors down to our own
times, men who neither knew nor taught
anything like what these heretics rave
about" ( Against Heresies 3:3:1 [A.D. 189])
.
"But since it would be too long to
enumerate in such a volume as this the
successions of all the churches, we shall
confound all those who, in whatever
manner, whether through self-satisfaction
or vainglory, or through blindness and
wicked opinion, assemble other than
where it is proper, by pointing out here
the successions of the bishops of the
greatest and most ancient church known
to all, founded and organized at Rome by
the two most glorious apostles, Peter and
Paul—that church which has the tradition
and the faith with which comes down to
us after having been announced to men
by the apostles. For with this Church,
because of its superior origin, all
churches must agree, that is, all the
faithful in the whole world. And it is in her
that the faithful everywhere have
maintained the apostolic tradition" (ibid.,
3:3:2).
"Polycarp also was not only instructed by
apostles, and conversed with many who
had seen Christ, but was also, by apostles
in Asia, appointed bishop of the church in
Smyrna, whom I also saw in my early
youth, for he tarried [on earth] a very long
time, and, when a very old man, gloriously
and most nobly suffering martyrdom,
departed this life, having always taught
the things which he had learned from the
apostles, and which the Church has
handed down, and which alone are true.
To these things all the Asiatic churches
testify, as do also those men who have
succeeded Polycarp down to the present
time" (ibid., 3:3:4).
"Since therefore we have such proofs, it is
not necessary to seek the truth among
others which it is easy to obtain from the
Church; since the apostles, like a rich
man [depositing his money] in a bank,
lodged in her hands most copiously all
things pertaining to the truth, so that
every man, whosoever will, can draw from
her the water of life. . . . For how stands
the case? Suppose there arise a dispute
relative to some important question
among us, should we not have recourse
to the most ancient churches with which
the apostles held constant conversation,
and learn from them what is certain and
clear in regard to the present
question?" (ibid., 3:4:1).
"[I]t is incumbent to obey the presbyters
who are in the Church—those who, as I
have shown, possess the succession from
the apostles; those who, together with the
succession of the episcopate, have
received the infallible charism of truth,
according to the good pleasure of the
Father. But [it is also incumbent] to hold
in suspicion others who depart from the
primitive succession, and assemble
themselves together in any place
whatsoever, either as heretics of perverse
minds, or as schismatics puffed up and
self-pleasing, or again as hypocrites,
acting thus for the sake of lucre and
vainglory. For all these have fallen from
the truth" (ibid., 4:26:2).
"The true knowledge is the doctrine of the
apostles, and the ancient organization of
the Church throughout the whole world,
and the manifestation of the body of
Christ according to the succession of
bishops, by which succession the bishops
have handed down the Church which is
found everywhere" (ibid., 4:33:.
Tertullian
"[The apostles] founded churches in every
city, from which all the other churches,
one after another, derived the tradition of
the faith, and the seeds of doctrine, and
are every day deriving them, that they may
become churches. Indeed, it is on this
account only that they will be able to
deem themselves apostolic, as being the
offspring of apostolic churches. Every
sort of thing must necessarily revert to its
original for its classification. Therefore the
churches, although they are so many and
so great, comprise but the one primitive
Church, [founded] by the apostles, from
which they all [spring]. In this way, all are
primitive, and all are apostolic, while they
are all proved to be one in
unity" ( Demurrer Against the Heretics 20
[A.D. 200]).
"[W]hat it was which Christ revealed to
them [the apostles] can, as I must here
likewise prescribe, properly be proved in
no other way than by those very churches
which the apostles founded in person, by
declaring the gospel to them directly
themselves . . . If then these things are
so, it is in the same degree manifest that
all doctrine which agrees with the
apostolic churches—those molds and
original sources of the faith must be
reckoned for truth, as undoubtedly
containing that which the churches
received from the apostles, the apostles
from Christ, [and] Christ from God.
Whereas all doctrine must be prejudged
as false which savors of contrariety to the
truth of the churches and apostles of
Christ and God. It remains, then, that we
demonstrate whether this doctrine of ours,
of which we have now given the rule, has
its origin in the tradition of the apostles,
and whether all other doctrines do not
ipso facto proceed from falsehood" (ibid.,
21).
"But if there be any [heresies] which are
bold enough to plant [their origin] in the
midst of the apostolic age, that they may
thereby seem to have been handed down
by the apostles, because they existed in
the time of the apostles, we can say: Let
them produce the original records of their
churches; let them unfold the roll of their
bishops, running down in due succession
from the beginning in such a manner that
[their first] bishop shall be able to show
for his ordainer and predecessor some
one of the apostles or of apostolic men—
a man, moreover, who continued steadfast
with the apostles. For this is the manner
in which the apostolic churches transmit
their registers: as the church of Smyrna,
which records that Polycarp was placed
therein by John; as also the church of
Rome, which makes Clement to have been
ordained in like manner by Peter" (ibid.,
32).
"But should they even effect the
contrivance [of composing a succession
list for themselves], they will not advance
a step. For their very doctrine, after
comparison with that of the apostles [as
contained in other churches], will declare,
by its own diversity and contrariety, that it
had for its author neither an apostle nor
an apostolic man; because, as the
apostles would never have taught things
which were self-contradictory" (ibid.).
"Then let all the heresies, when
challenged to these two tests by our
apostolic Church, offer their proof of how
they deem themselves to be apostolic.
But in truth they neither are so, nor are
they able to prove themselves to be what
they are not. Nor are they admitted to
peaceful relations and communion by
such churches as are in any way
connected with apostles, inasmuch as
they are in no sense themselves apostolic
because of their diversity as to the
mysteries of the faith" (ibid.).
Cyprian of Carthage
"[T]he Church is one, and as she is one,
cannot be both within and without. For if
she is with [the heretic] Novatian, she was
not with [Pope] Cornelius. But if she was
with Cornelius, who succeeded the bishop
[of Rome], Fabian, by lawful ordination,
and whom, beside the honor of the
priesthood the Lord glorified also with
martyrdom, Novatian is not in the Church;
nor can he be reckoned as a bishop, who,
succeeding to no one, and despising the
evangelical and apostolic tradition, sprang
from himself. For he who has not been
ordained in the Church can neither have
nor hold to the Church in any
way" ( Letters 69[75]:3 [A.D. 253]).

kingthreat:
BH is officially pockets of resistance. You better wish FG luck in everything and criticize constructively. Their failures will directly and indirectly affect you. As for the dullard, I see you complaining for the next 3 and a half years.

Before the year runs out you are likely to join the complaining band... This government has no definite strategy for any of the inherited challenges beyond trading blames

kingthreat:
BH is officially pockets of resistance. You better wish FG luck in everything and criticize constructively. Their failures will directly and indirectly affect you. As for the dullard, I see you complaining for the next 3 and a half years.

Before the year runs out you are likely to join the club complaining band... This government has no definite strategy for any of the inherited from challenges beyond trading blames

magicfingers009:
TOTAL RUBBISH!

Joshua 1:8 "This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to." The potency of God's Word is when it is in your mouth. Not on some paper or phone or any medium. For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword; Please note that it is NOT the bible but the Word of God.

Some of you have been deceived growing up that when the devil attacks, you would use your bible to hit him on the head, it won't work. Study to show thy self approved onto God. The word of God should be on your lips and in your heart (guard thy heart; for out of it flows the issues of life). Only when the Word is in the inside of you, that is when you can wage proper spiritual warfare.

Whether phone bible or hard cover bible, the potency of the Word of God is when its in your heart and flows through your lips

Where do you worship, please?

Juve4:
in as much as I use the phone I don't dare use it in church for bible. I have respect for any time I find myself in church.

Do you know how many versions that is at your calls by using phone Bible?

charlsecy:
Then you dislike it for NOTHING! It is really worrisome that a person who calls himself Christian could utter this kind of a thing! You have a long way to go when it comes to demon casting. Have you been led to believe, as a result of watching Nollywood, that by showing the Devil a copy of the Bible; he will flee?

Leave the ignoramus.... How many copies did Jesus have before demons bowed to him?

wisest10:
its obvious dat many pple dnt know d kind of God they serve, how can u use d phone u use in chating watching ungodly film, hearing ungodly music, in d house of God, christains hmmm, many of u respect d food u eat instead of God, let me ask 'can u use d bowl u use in toilet to cook in d kitchen, remeber it is a bowl oo'....d ans is No, d fact dat it is a bowl does not change d fact dat it is not an instrument used in d kitchen, it has a purpose some where else and equipment use in d kitchen are special only a foolish man can use a bowl for toilet in d kitchen and it is only a foilish christain can use a phone bible in d church.. When u are under attack can u use ur phone as a weapon bcoz it has a bible, devil go destroy u more, but ur bible has been dedicated sacredly to God to be use in d church, if u take dat bible to a shrine d babalawo, will feel d power of d bible(dedicated bible), but if u take ur phone there its rubish it has no effect because it does not have a special dedication, i just wish i can continue but just take dis.....peace b wit u....remeber even d devil quote a bible verse when he wanted to tempt jesus, dat is wat most christains agrguing dis topic ar doing, behaving like ur father d devil, remeber jesus christ also said something like dis............be warned.......

When the Bible was in clay form how was it used then against satanic attack besides, did Jesus ask you to have a copy of the Bible Bible in your hands during 'warfare '

boboLIL:
Anytin dah its nt Holy Bible is not Bible.....

Are you saying electronic Bible is not as good as the paper version?

cruzita:
these Americans are senseless ooo ,so because he wore sandals he is now gay?badoo himself,u guys are high on fake drugs

Same mindset with some persons back here : yellow trousers or pants and d that person is labe"ed a gay

Papist:
The guide for Christianity according to the Bible is not the Bible but the Church. 1 Timothy 3:15:

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know
how thou oughtest to behave thyself in
the house of God, which is the church of
the living God, the pillar and ground of the
truth.”

Start from the beginning. When in doubt, start from the beginning....

These things write I unto thee(what are the things?go to the beginning.... Qualifications for the position of a bishop, deacon) hoping to come unto thee shortly: but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave (chose leadership) yself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
1 Timothy 3:14-15 KJVA.... If it is not in the Bible, it is either satanic or man made... Nature is against a vacuum

BTW, this passage, from the beginning, is at variance with your submission on qualifications for the position of a bishop.... You quoted one extraneous source or rather authority.

patrick89:
Let them be fast with that road from orumba to Awka south! It will provide alternative. Obiano should intervene at ifite the rate at which people build is alarming! y should be moderated Abeg.

Pincture or you know the rest..

Papist:
If I may ask…who is your bishop? Has he been ordained in the succession of the Holy Apostles? If not then he is not a bishop, no offence. I will quote Tertullian here for you:

"But if there be any [heresies] which are
bold enough to plant [their origin] in the
midst of the apostolic age, that they may
thereby seem to have been handed down
by the apostles, because they existed in
the time of the apostles, we can say: Let
them produce the original records of their
churches; let them unfold the roll of their
bishops, running down in due succession
from the beginning in such a manner that
[their first] bishop shall be able to show
for his ordainer and predecessor some
one of the apostles or of apostolic men—
a man, moreover, who continued steadfast
with the apostles. For this is the manner
in which the apostolic churches transmit
their registers: as the church of Smyrna,
which records that Polycarp was placed
therein by John; as also the church of
Rome, which makes Clement to have been
ordained in like manner by Peter" (ibid.,
32).
"But should they even effect the
contrivance [of composing a succession
list for themselves], they will not advance
a step. For their very doctrine, after
comparison with that of the apostles [as
contained in other churches], will declare,
by its own diversity and contrariety, that it
had for its author neither an apostle nor
an apostolic man; because, as the
apostles would never have taught things
which were self-contradictory" (ibid.).

Another precept of men.... Until you have biblical support you're practicing the laws of men.... God tore the temple curtain therby giving access to all who seek.


The scripture is the only guide for Christianity. The doctrine of the apostles are to be found in the acts of the Holy Spirit through them in Acts book of the Bible.... Any other is the doctrine of men... If it is not in the Bible it is not God and God is not committed to upholding such hence the gradual collapse of religion

willywasco:
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600b or 6b because that state can't leave such amount with her assembly to fiddle with

Holywizard:
Thank God oo that everything is now a past...

Last month when I travelled to my village for christmas celebration. My 76 year old aunt who likes farming wanted me to accompany her to her farm to bring home some firewood for cooking & for frying garri.

I refused because i didnt want to stain my cloth because i was putting on white jean but due to the reason of pleasing her because we now see her as our grandmum since we lost our grandmum in the year 2003 I decided to go with her.

After arranging it, she decided to carry some home & i protested but she refused saying that she can carry it so we departed for home. I was in the front with my ear-phone listening to loud musics from my phone & i was walking fast because the load was too heavy she was walking slowly. I gave her some far distance.

While she was coming come she mistakenly matched on a tangled rope & down she fell. She started calling me but due to the ear phone placed on my ears i couldnt hear her calling & I left her for home. On arriving home & i waited for like 5 minutes & i didnt see her so i decided to go back to at least help her carry her own load.

On my way I met her struggling with the load of firewood on top of her & her breathe was fading away. I had to rush, removed the load on her & i placed her carefully on the ground for air. I later removed my polo & used it to fan her. After like 20 minutes I helped her reach her house & later came back to carry the load of firewood.

I'm so grateful to God because I dont think that had it been she died, that i would be able to forgive myself...


Moderators be help me & share the good news...

Devil!!! Walking wihwith a mobile wisdom bank and had your ears blocked. Do you know what you would have learnt that day.

tommysparks:
what is religion and what is christianity, which is a subset of which? Don't confuse yourself in trying to justify a way of worshipping God.

Until you have scriptural backings for..... Where God said 'do this now and forever' you are practicing religion.... Man made rituals that hopes to gain God's attention... If you exempt yourself from eating meat on a particular day and there is no bible support for your action you're only hoping that the action wins you divine favour.

God is only committed to his word. He Instituted the blood of sprinkling.... ,Exo 12v 14 ‘So this day shall be to you a memorial; and you shall keep it as a feast to the Lord throughout your generations. You shall keep it as a feast by an everlasting ordinance, feet washing, communion and preaching the gospel of salvation as a means of liberating the captives.

Christianity is living and acting like Jesus Christ;religion is living and acting according to the precepts of men.... There's no set and subset as they are mutually exclusive

Thelma110:
When u'r offered the holy communion, what does the priest say to you? Quit trying to discredit the Catholic Church just because u decided to leave. Worship wherever you "See the light".

Jesus gave both and instructed that we do same, abi or he merged them?

The life of the flesh is in the blood.

Thelma110:
When u'r offered the holy communion, what does the priest say to you? Quit trying to discredit the Catholic Church just because u decided to leave. Worship wherever you "See the light".

Jesus gave both and instructed that we do same, abi?

Papist:
It is difficult to find spiritual fulfillment in the Catholic Church? This is surprising considering the spiritual richness found in the Catholic Church. From the Liturgy of the Hours, the litanies, the devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Benediction, Adoration, the prayers of the Saints, the liturgical seasons, the feast days etc. You can't find this anywhere else except in the Orthodox Churches.

Until you have scriptural backings for all the above you are playing religion which my Bishop described as man's personal efforts to get it right with God.

In winners there's no religion but pure Christianity... Blood sprinkling or passover blood to feet washing

Rapmoney:
I saw this today along Effurun-Sapele Road, close to Water Resources Junction. See what students now do just to get to school! I think it is funny but also risky!!! The tricycle rider was being helpful but his 'kindness' could turn to troubles if caught by the police

Urhobo college, my Alma....

sirusX:
I guessed u dint get me or I dint explain well
I meant all those activities helped me get a better understanding of the church and the mass (sumthing I neglected)...helping me listen, meditate and find that spiritual fulfilment.

What you don't know....u have no understanding, so u say the things u say based on what you bliv. But who am I to judge. Based on what I know I could say some things about protestant churches of even the muslims, but I know that my views are sum1 from the outside looking in & it would be different from one who has been in that faith and taken the time to learn soo much

OK. But before I let you go, know this : God gives Rev Frs from a purpose : to impart you with knowledge and understanding of the mystery of the kingdom for it is given unto you to know the mystery and operate them. If any father is not fulfilling this and you rely on church groupings to know, then his priest hood is needless.

After the way has been pointed then you engage in seeking and finding but someone with grace must, like lecturers, point you to your way....

I was amongst the best during catechism class for first holy communion and confirmation. A block rosary activist and spiritual father for persons during baptism.

All the above did not impart my destiny. A married man like me knows what he is saying :my wife is a cadet by virtue of the Father being a knight... But today, she knows better.... Christ death is so we can reign as priest and Kings and it requires the operation of the mystery to walk into the power realms.

My entire family are Catholics except myself.. And then my younger brother that I told to go to winners for sometime and see if he can find the words for his healing... He is a crazy winners, Today.


my mum called me, recently and after giving me what she thought were sound out I ask her told listen and I gave her scriptures and charge that she confess that my understanding is extraordinary.... She confessed that my words gave her insight that wasn't there and her faith welled up. She was supposed to minister to me but got it from me the way no father has eve told her.

She now wants me to talk to her all the time

Thelma110:
Catholic church is One Church that reminds u of the need to be holy and at Peace with God. If you are a good Catholic who understands what the Eucharist is all about, u would know that u can't receive the holy Communion if u have committed a sin (especially a mortal sin) without going for confessions. This alone should make you uncomfortable in ur sin, especially when others go to receive the holy communion and u'r seated all through as a communicant. Not that anyone would care why u'r seating, but in your heart u wld know it's because u are not "in a state of Grace". In fact, pple leave the Catholic Church because they preach holiness most of the time and most people, especially the youths, do not want to hear all that because they consider it boring . So they go to churches where they preach what they want to hear, and at the same time do not emphasize on holiness, confessions, and penance.

Sin is sin... No classification. Every sin distances us from God. Receiving Christ has nothing to do with what others think about sitting down... You receive him with your heart and soul...

Proof of holiness is demonstration..... The kingdom of God is not in words but power.... If Holiness is taught and is received with the heart and practiced, signs and wonders will be the proof.... If you are holy, you hear directly from God because your spirit would be able to connect with him( God) .

kaeforum:
All the churches of today are like resorts, they make u very comfortable with fine seats, aircondition and even gifts for new members.

There's hardly any church that preaches salvation or rebukes sinners again.

Its all about properity, money and power.

You have to limit yourself to the ones you have been to because I know that of the 12 Months in a year, winners devotes an entire month to the subject of sanctification... The church stands on 12 pillars and each month a particular one is emphasized.. This month's theme is 'prayer and fasting facilitates the fulfilment of prophecy' 1 Tim1v18

Thelma110:
U didn't give reasons why you think i'm not correct and your last question should make me ask you if u'r a Catholic cos i don't know what u mean by "Blood during communion".

The communion is made up of the body and the blood....when you receive communion during mass do you partake of both

sirusX:
How active where you as a catholic? Was it just a Sunday thing or did u delve deeper to understand more?

We all are born into homes where we find ourselves being in the same church as our parents...fact
But in growing up as a child, was your home the type where your parents sit you down and teach you more about the church, or did they welcome questions from you so they could explain more about the teaching for the day or an understanding of your faith.
I never had the luxury of all that as a child, so in my search for an understanding, I took to reading books on faith and spirituality...besydes the Bible
*don't mind me...i love books*

The church has an amazing library of books from different authors, and would rouse your curiosity to read more. I know the mass might seem too straightforward or routine, but it has a purpose; "our salvation", which I guess u might not have understood. I wish you took the time to understand every part of the mass in its detail.

The kind of life i used to live before was not helpful if i was to call myself a christian, not until I decided to challenge myself to do different. I became a part of the opus dei center "helmbridge", and also joined the lay readers, where I hold an active position, and also being a part of the youth fellowship in church where I am a part of the word group; learning from people and also delivering talks when called upon.

The thing is I don't know much as a christian, and I'm still eager to know more, and I'm forever thankful to the people I met so far in this life's journey...people i call my teachers and motivators...and as my principle in life, I look to the prayer of St. Francis of Asisi

One question that still puzzles me is where do we draw the line between faith and morality?...cz i do bliv an atheist with a good heart would seem better than a christian who disregards Christ in all he does

You are still saying the same thing : without the after mass programs and society, it is difficult to find spiritual fulfilment, within the Catholic Church.

My summary : As a Catholic, majority are stock at the level of children of God.. And are perpetually under the elements of this world because the homilies rarely points you to sonship.

izutex007:
Dear....CCRN is a society within the church and not just an 'activity'.



You said Many catholics.... The last time i checked 'Many' is not equal to 'all'.
I will never coax any body to bcome/remain a catholic..I am a catholic by conviction. If you feel your conviction isnt satisfied, then who am I to convince you?

All I know is this: I know the Lord I serve in truth and in spirit. Thanks to the catholic church.

The same Jesus who died for the penticostals died for the catholics...same wit the miracles/prayer answered. No Church hold that as a 'monopoly'.


#Peace

Why should the ministration that meets the needs of the people be at the society level and not the church? Christ did not rely on extras to impart... He changed destinies during his ministration

Dahveydson:
I have had the privilege of being friends with children of pastors and their nonchalant attitude to the gospel and not taking after their parents always leave me puzzled.

Is it that they are simply tired of it or their parents are living a fake life or they feel neglected by their parents full attention to the work of God? - it's really confusing.

Dear Nairalanders, what do you think is the reason for this?

That is not so for all pastors... Eg my Bishop, Oyedepo.... The son is even more than him if not grace difference

Larryfly:
Yea... I v listened to some nice priests like Fr. Dibie. Buh then the parish priests are just vague abt the Word. You leave every sunday feeling empty. CBIU is a strong group. I ll study abt them a lil. Same with charismatics. But why cant I get this spirituality from the church, why church groups?

I stopped attending church for almost a year that my parents had a chat with me and I told them the church wasn't imparting me.

ekenetheorg:
The obligation to go to confession scares many from Catholic church, hence they go where they are comfortable with committing sin and praying in their minds.

It's not bad to confess to God in prayers, but the problem is that you will still commit the sin again and since the solution is simple - confess to God in prayers, you will have no issues.

But the fear and shame of talking to a Reverend Father who has a vow never to disclose your sin to anyone will make you stop committing more sins.

So to all Catholic haters, It's not about what you think is right, you are where you are because you seek comfort.

It is more than you are willing to accept. It isabout knowing that it is dangerous to remain at the level of #ChildofGod. Until I left the Catholic Church I never knew there was a huge difference between child and sons of God.
I am now conscious of it