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drnoel:
Means u never understood what u experienced as a Catholic. Its people like u that give catholics a bad name. All in all, it doesn't matter. It is only relevant to u. Just know something, the church is not what makes u attain external life but urself and ur actions in live. Regards

Mention one quote from your current or even past pope that has transformed your life, for good. Don't go looking for one online


See the one that turned me to the Bible ....until the book is opened Destiny remains closed

Bhelamblog:
Bleaching Cream Expert Bobrisky has been arrested by the Police in Lekki, Lagos this Evening. . Multiple reports says his arrest is linked to his fight between him and serial entrepreneur Toyin Lawani., and him coming out as a gay..

Bobrisky had recently slandered Toyin via his Snapchat, after she called him a riff-raff during an interview, And yesterday too he came out plain that his a gay.

The real reason for this arrest is yet to be ascertained, but insiders reveal that Bobrisky will likely be transferred to Abuja, tomorrow morning.


Photo credit: Instablog9ja

News From Ebiwali-- http://www.ebiwalismoment.com/2017/11/oh-no-bobrisky-arrested-by-police-in.html

OP you for put before and now pictures so we go fit remember how him look like before

drnoel:
Means u never understood what u experienced as a Catholic. Its people like u that give catholics a bad name. All in all, it doesn't matter. It is only relevant to u. Just know something, the church is not what makes u attain external life but urself and ur actions in live. Regards

How can you tell a married man whose father in law is a knight and daughter a cadet that he doesn't know what he experienced as a Catholic ...those ones running from prayers houses to prophetic houses , are they also not aware of what they are experiencing


What I experienced as a Catholic was a lack of spiritual depth

drnoel:
Means u never understood what u experienced as a Catholic. Its people like u that give catholics a bad name. All in all, it doesn't matter. It is only relevant to u. Just know something, the church is not what makes u attain external life but urself and ur actions in live. Regards

You are a liar... how can they believe if no one tell them. The church must tell you before you get hungry for eternal life ... bulletin is not good for you ....return to the scripture ...salvation is and starts in Zion that is why I rejoice when they say let us to to the house of the lord

drnoel:
There is a difference and u know that. Ur mega pastors own those jets and enjoy luxury living. Such a thing can never happen in the church.

And the pope owns the plane glass bullet proof pope mobile and enjoy the luxury of it all alone .... for your information, if Bishop Oyedepo knew the scripture as he did and lived any where below what is his reality today I wouldn't have been convinced of his knowledge


He is a showroom of what he teaches and I believe him. As a Catholic i never had any hunger for the Bible, just the extract called bulletin , I was amongst the top three in my catechism class for holy communion and confirmation but yet still, like many Catholics, went to other places for prayers and prophecy... many so called Catholics are members only on Sunday's and memebers of various prayer and prophetic ministries where the leaders live on their means which they pay out for deliverance and sundry activities, from Monday's through Saturday

Go to any of those prayer contractors and seers and just tell them to announce that hencefort they would want to deal with their members according to their denominations and see what happens, you so called Catholics will be found to make up 95% of the memberships and the reason being that you are largely spiritually empty and running from pillar to post looking for help.


Just for making me hunger after the word and not man, Bishop Oyedepo deserve to live even much more than he is doing now. I am forever a surprise to myself ...me open Christian books and read ...taaaa.....not those ones on defense of religion but reality Christian books


How can a man who says to you, ...church is a not social club ... it is a spiritual club, don't waste your time in church on social event. If it is not spiritual it is not beneficial .... How can I not love a man who declares launching illegal, that every church was launched the day JSU's inaugurated the church ...a man who stopped the home cells from collecting offering even Thkugh they remit such to the church saying it is a meeting place for brethren , who doesn't sell bulletin but actuall gives glossy ones for free


No gimmicks to get money from people like everyone coming to the front for offering , no awards or special recognition for doing anything, no raffle draws ... how can I sincerely need such a one when he ends up with a jets when he has never put me under pressure to give



For just making me love God p, he deserve a much more ... i was before now a Christian by name but not anymore ...I am a Christian by conviction today and that is because Oyedepo ministry made me taste the power of God , first hand


If you want to know why Winners are deceived by Oyedepo I will tell you here and now: not up to 2 percent of winnners joined as rich guys ...98% were disillusioned, poor and miserable when theory joined , they had questions their former place (Catholics church) could not answer

They came and within three months could see tangible improvements in their living standard because the covenant ark (word) had entered ... giving to them is so that other can be reached and if it takes a Plan to reach them so must it be



Your pope can't have a private plane and the reason is because your members are living for other Pentecost church...read up what's up with the pope Peter pence ...churches are being sold off in America to offset liabilities...some are being merged because it makes no sense keeping them all open when they have no tangible population to justify their existence

Spiritually, the pope is very inconsequential to even a ally's of Catholics in Nigeria ... how many can say that the pope said this or that that changed my destiny for Good ... many here don't even know his name before he changed it to what it is now ... they have never being blessed by his ministration because it is to them like water on the back of a duck

madridguy:
Boss Mustapha should be careful with the traitor

He has no choice but to make sure he is not a traitor. Those ones who made themselves an enemy of the great Saraki are virtually all out of power or in the cold ..,check them all.


Saraki is a strategist .. mess with him at your own peril .. Magu one of the people who jumped on the bandwagon of Saraki must go at the early stage of the battle knows better today than to dare him again


The grass man is out...Let me not mention the others

drnoel:
U are funny. The catholic pope does not run or own Layola university. Loyola university is a catholic university cos it was established by catholic organizations, the catholic church itself has no form of influence of the university. U that claim u know everything while u know nothing, am surprised u don't know that?

You should re read this your coment....The school is established by catholic organisation but the church doesn't have or exert any influence on them? So the church teaching on cheap school and opinions are of no consequence to them? They can charge as much as 2 million for a secondary school.


Are they not supposed to be champions of cheap and affordable school since they are Priest with no marital responsibility.

drnoel:
No name calling here? How did u arrive at that. Calling u a lost cause was no form of name calling with all due respect. I repeat sir, the catholic pope doesn't use or own a private jet. Maybe ur pastors do own some jets, but not the pope. If that truth is bothering u then deal with it. The Pope is ofcos several categories higher than ur pastors, after all he doesnt preach prosperity, wealth, he doesn't own a private jet, he doesn't own universities where its congregation can't afford school fees and he is completely humble and willing to accept all back in the folds of God and Christianity. These differences are gleaming and clear wether u accept it or not.

I am so sorry for you. Ur attempts to justify what is not justifiable. It is so sad that it bothers on hypocrisy. OMG these pastors have really robbed nigerian christians of their will to differentiate between right and wrong

How much is Loyola college fee?

PrecisionFx:
Keep wallowing in ur self inflicted ignorance.

Ok. You have exhausted your quotes and their origin ... No idea again

Use dictionary.com ... It has a section for quotes and their origin , that is if that is not where you got the camel and needle from


In your warp reasoning a man who gave out two boats loaded with fish to Peter was living in IDP camp to demonstrate humility .abi ... If that was the case , then know he was faking it


A man with a personal treasurer in Judas who stayed on the earth for thirty three years and the half was roaming everywhere without a shelter , the man who transferred his spirit for wealth to me and died poor so I can be rich ...Have you ever given out what you don't have?


Continue in your delusion that poverty is godliness. ...Psalm 35:27 says bless be the Lord who takes pleasure in the prosperity of his people not their poverty.


The spirit of poverty fall on anyone who wants another man to exhibit poverty with his life ... Whatever you sow you reap.



NB: this is my original comment where you left the subject matter to pursue an irrelevant issue just because it is a new idea to you ... A lady with brain would have focus on the deduction from the satayement but not you since you have a new idea that must be passed on in a forum .. the quotes is a used by Jesus , not mine addition so if you were looking for who to teach the meaning it ought to have been Jesus who used it for I gave substance to what he said

Sorry but you are the one that need sense and not the other way round . Jesus owned a house ... Read Matt 9:28 and his disciples weren't a collection of poor folks for when Jesus said it was easier for the camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to make heaven his disciples didn't leap for joy but were worried asking themselves who then would make heaven ... Everyone of them was worried until jesus pacified them

Finally, if your so called sense doesn't make your bank manager a personal friend that calls you by name because of worth to his or where branch financially, it is useless to you ... Join the gullible team

drnoel:
I doubt he even needs one. Not that the catholic church can't buy him one, mind u

The pope doesn't have a private jet and doesn't deserve one ..,and even if wanted one , his Peter pence cant maintain one. .., the entire catholic world raised 75 million dollars for the pope in a year and it went into subheads that was suppose to be the primary responsibility of the church


Unless some group of persons come up and say they want him to have one , it would be difficult for the church that is selling assets in Europe and America to keep a jet on standby for somebody who rarely travels.


The catholic church members are , in the main, not givers ... In your branch is it not 5 and 10 naira that dominates your offering box? Talk true ... Members are leaving for other churches and doing what they didn't do as catholics. Give big

ollah1:
If it works, what subscription are you talking about then ?

The people who runs the alternate dstv collects monthly subscription just like dstv ... I think 500 or 1k

smartcet:
You lied bro... Jesus never own or used a horse.
The donkey he even used when he went to Jerusalem was borrowed.

Please stop making blind argument.

The Pope uses a commercial jet. Do you want to tell me Winners chapel and redeem has more branches than the Roman Catholic?

Where is now the humility Jesus was preaching about in the Bible?

This guys don’t just fly private, the cars they drive can even change someone generations life.

What about the body guard they walk around with?

Let’s call a spade a spade and not shovel.

The pope doesn't deserve a private jet because he doesn't travel as often as the leadership of winners or redeem . Another thing is that his account can't fund it even if he needs it ... Membership is being rolled back by the Pentecostals... America , the highest financiers of the pope , they have sold entire church and other assets because they became idle and cost centres ... Many branches if the church has closed for lack of devotees


3 billion dollars was used to settle gay priest issues in America alone

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.... Matt 5:17 ..... Jesus on the law


Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone...... Matt 23:23 .... Jesus on tithe

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.... Heb 7:8 .... Paul on tithe



Explain three scriptures above against your argument; by the way, is there a God for the Jews and another for the christians and if so is there a Jesus in heaven according to Heb 7:8 for the Jews and another Jesus for us chrisrians?

DanXplore:
It was recorded that Abraham tithed once, and never again was there a record of Abraham tithing. In principle, he tithed as a form of honour to Melchezedek. Never was there any other mention of Abraham tithing; the passage you quoted even reveals that according to the transcendent property of tithing, Abraham tithed on behalf of the Levites. If we are Abraham's children, then by the same logic, we tithed to Melchizedek through Abraham. You also mentioned that we are after Abraham's blessings. Is there a portion of Abraham's blessings that could only be accessed through tithing? When God was instructing Israel through prophet Isaiah to follow the steps Abraham and Sarah, was he referring to religious tithing or genuine righteousness? Do you understand what the scripture meant by Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, by being made a curse for us? We access Abraham's blessings through Jesus Christ and not by doing the carnal things Abraham did.
If tithes are used for the purpose of God's work, then what are offerings to be used for? Do not get me wrong, If the church presents a genuine goal, and the body of Christ agrees that 10% of one's income should be donated to meet the goal, then it is fine. But saying that tithing is still in force because we are Abraham's blessings is just wrong. Circumcision was done by Abraham even before the law. Why then did Paul say it was not necessary? Saying we should do the tithing of Abraham and not the levites is not any less ridiculous as saying we should do the circumcision of Abraham and not the circumcision of the law.

Again, God was talking to the Jews who were under the law and not Christians who are not under the law. When scripture says workers are to be paid their wages, did it say christians must contribute tithes to pay workers? please post a direct reference where Christ mentioned that christians should continue with the old tithing system so that workers could be paid. Nevertheless, i agree that a certain amount should be reserved by the church members for workers. You could name it tithe or what ever u want. A christian with conscience should know that a true Man of God deserves more than 10%. But when one begins to teach that it is a command that christians should pay tithe as done before the new covenant, then that is error

Launching, bazaar sales , raffle draws and all forms of Levy's are not God's way for his church and it is the reason it takes those who engage such gimmickry to raise funds years to complete any project they embarks on even going to borrow sometimes. People come to launching and make pledges they never redeem and in today Nigeria, it is foolishness to be a chief launcher of anymkind, they pick up everything avaiduring bazaar and never pay afterwards

PrecisionFx:
"" Nigerians are not stupid or gullible"" - Nigerians are extremely gullible people, especially the Christians .

Jesus never walked on earth as a Savior or as Christ, That's why the Hebrews never accepted him as a God till today, they know he's just a bloddy carpenters son n nothing more, he went about saying that he's the king of kings and that he's God, They warned him to stop saying such and he refused,then the Israelites killed him ...... Hebrews are still followers of Judaism and they are waiting for their Savior to come n die for their sins , Or do u think the people alive wen Jesus was born didn't know Mary was living in a mans house n got pregnant.. .


Matthew 9:28.

28 When he had gone indoors, the blind men came to him, and he asked them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?”

“Yes, Lord,” they replied.

Only an idiot will read the above n conclude that Jesus owned a house .


U have absolutely no understanding of that phrase "eye of a needle".....In the olden times they live in cities surrounded with a very high wall and 1 or more big gates and at night the guards will close those gates. Merchants who come back late in the night wen the gate has been closed pass thru a small opening on the wall called ''eye of a needle" and due to how small that passage is, it's usually very difficult for a Camel(mode of transport in those times because the middle east is mainly a desert n there's very little water around and camels which need less water is preferred for transportation as against using horses).

So brow chill down n stop thinking that the eye of a needle being talked about was a camel and needle used for sowing clothes

If you had gone up that very scripture, Matt 9', you would have noticed that it started by telling you that he was in his city. I don't know how a man that could generate money from a fish would be without a house in his own city ,a man who could feed five thousand men with a little boys pack.

I am very sure you consider yourself a scholar for knowing that eye of the needle is a gateway in ancient Jerusalem but for your information it is public knowledge for every one who knows what Bible commentary is. You were so in a hurry to 'teach' me your new knowledge that you failed to see that i stated that Jesus Christ pacified the disciples, afterward.

Now to the subject matter: rich or no rich .... I was explaining in my comment that Jesus wasn't poor neither was the disciples poor folks otherwise kwhen Jesus was addressing the rich and heaven they would have been happy that he was talking about the rich not getting into heaven but no, they were worried and was asking one another who then would make heaven


You need to go back to the comment you quoted and stop being Ina hurry to display elementary knowledge like a new found secret ... If you need books, ask me for them

seuncyrus:
For tracking, use this details
Satellite: ABS 3A
Position: 3 degree west
Frequency: 11052
Symbol rate: 30000
Polarization: V
Dish size: 90 cm

Can it work with dstv or Startimes dish

ollah1:
You mean hacked DStv still works in Warri?

Yes and they still collect subscription.

DanXplore:
To be honest, i am quite busy. If u noticed, i did not give full scriptural references and even the few i mentioned where paraphrased. If i had the time, i would bring out all the scriptural references to tithe and prove to you that we are to even eat part of the tithe if we go by the actual standards of tithing. I might do that in future if i still remember this dialogue, but for now, I am squeezing out time to respond because this subject is very sensitive and the unveilment of truth is long overdue. You can choose to disagree at the inferences made if it does not agree with your understanding of the principles of the gospel as u like, that is not my business. What is most important is that you are truly saved.

The tithe you pay today is not the tithe of the levites but Abraham's tithe .. he is our father in the faith and it is his blessings that we are after not that of Levite's. Tithe is God agenda and the purpose is to fund his work here on the earth , the very reason the records are acknowledged in heaven ...Heb 7:8

Mal 3:10 says being all the tithes so that there may be meat in mine house and Jesu said in Malachi ::3:10 says to bring in the tithe so that there might be meat in his house and Jesus Christ explained what that meant in Matt 10:9-10......Your tithe provides the things(meat is used) Jesus asked his disciples not to take along with them.


Launching, bazaar sales , raffle draws and all forms of Levy's are not God's way for his church and it is the reason it takes those who engage such gimmickry to raise funds years to complete any project they embarks on even going to borrow sometimes. People come to launching and make pledges they never redeem and in today Nigeria, it is foolishness to be a chief launcher of anymkind, they pick up everything avaiduring bazaar and never pay afterwards

drnoel:
Jesus, u are a lost case. That his visit to the US that was so much broadcasted and televised that I wonder if u are just playing ignorance. I repeat, get ur story and record straight. As if u didn't know that the said plane in the picture was not hired or owned by the pope or the catholic church. Yes he moves with his crew sometimes, thats true but that doesn't mean he hires or owns the planes.
Stop using the pope to compare ur pastors who own private jets. They may all be men but they are not of the same category and u know it.


cc Statsocial

The pope doesn't deserve a jet. How many time in a week does the people travel to other parts of the world for evangelism.

Then peters pence has been so bastardised and used to cater for other needs that it can't maintain a private jet.
Some church in us has been sold others merged because of dwindling membership and payment of child abuse compensation and retirement benefits

PrecisionFx:
The only reason Oyedekpo owns private jets ai because Nigerians are generally stupid, gullible n fully uneducated. No need to tell anyone to sell their cars and use BRT before they talk about pastors that use tithes n offerings to buy private jets. First things first, shey oyedekpo dem dem are living a Christ like life, Christ never owned a donkey, He never owned a house, he shared everything he has or whatever was contributed to everyone around...... Ur Nigerian pastors do the exact opposite of that.

U are a very ignorant person, receive sense wen ever it pleases u.

Bishop Oyedepo owns a jet because his schedule demands it and he has paid the price for it. ... Nigerians are not stupid or gullible but following their hearts .... You are not more intelligent or richer than those who made the jet possible. A stupid man is the one who tries to advice a rich man on wealth when he is yet to have personal proofs


As for your attempt at scripture, it is obvious you are one of these bulletin folks lacking any real biblical knowledge beyond the perfunctory homily of your leaders . For you information, Jesus always did as occasion demanded. He travelled in a convoy of ships when he needed , got a new brand horse when he needed it. Paid his tax when it was demanded , had a treasurer which you of today dint have even with your self evaluation of your sense of worth and better intelligence than winners members. Ordinary pillow that Hausa men sells was so important in Jesus times that it got a mention that he was sleeping with a pillow in the sleep.


When Jesus walked the earth he was limited by technology that he never visited Nigeria to preach the gospel. But when he was about to leave he said we will do greater works than he did. That work is not in quality for he was the only one with grace without measure . That greater works is in numbers .. winners, as a commission has covered more part of the world than Jesus did when he was alive on earth and it is possible because the founder has a means of movement that allows carry the gospel and anointing in comfort and timely ... He is not holding parties aboard those jets ... Pastors are sent on missions abroad every other day and they need to go and return on time

Sorry but you are the one that need sense and not the other way round . Jesus owned a house ... Read Matt 9:28 and his disciples weren't a collection of poor folks for when Jesus said it was easier for the camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to make heaven his disciples didn't leap for joy but were worried asking themselves who then would make heaven ... Everyone of them was worried until jesus pacified them

Finally, if your so called sense doesn't make your bank manager a personal friend that calls you by name because of worth to his or where branch financially, it is useless to you ... Join the gullible team

passyhansome:
SPENT OVER 1.8BILLION NAIRA AND IT'S NOT ON CABLE, GOD WILL JUDGE YOU SIR

Get a Startimes combo decoder and then you dint put yourself on cable ...The cable , tstv, owners do that

ollah1:
TSTV could have a non disclosure agreement with beIN sport and the representative that answered his queries wouldn't know anything. This isn't the first time that stuffs like this happens in firms. Sometimes, it's the users that update network customer care agents about newly released products and services offered by their companies.

Secondly, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria. I honestly don't know what the guy(Mayowa) stand to gain with this conversation. Does it make him sleep well or he is an agent of DSTV?

That is what they told us they have with bein TV...Non disclosure agreement

oyb:
its actually another issue withe nigerians. an inability to understand that you can only run a scam when it has a low threshold. rather, they will be looking how to monetize scams and take them to the next level. a few years past, some dude figured out how to hack dstv decoders. if it had been a one off, or something for a few friends, he would probably still be hacking dstv till today. instead they made it into a hustle, complete with sales of hacked decoders. of course dstv became aware of the legion of unpaid always on subscribers and shut it down.

Still works in Warri ... EFFURUN

Main one is not a service retailer ... They offer their service to corporate companies like tstv, ministries and parastatals who in turn breaks it downans use same for transmission. They have no opportunity to compete with the GSM guys for because they don't have the licence to retail but to give bulk data services


If they are able to get the numbers they envisage for themselves, it won't be an issue ... They have projected a million client each quarter of the year.

3000 * 1,000,000 per month then *12 month in a year then multiply the outcome by 4.

Meanwhile unlike dstv, they are getting their signals from third parties for way cheaper amount unlike the 296 million pounds dstv paid for 3 years right.


Alert from the sport channels , most of the other stations are either free like the news channles or relatively cheap like those nature channels , music and entertainment, since they are not exclusive channels

Adisaowalla:
Main one has been around for a while now. How come the price of data in Nigeria hasn't crashed considerably if they can actually "give that out for little a earning" without considerable drawbacks & repercussions?



These are already potential hidden shortcomings that would cripple their operations when they start.

Oga - 3k for unlimited access to all matches in the top leagues in Europe + 20gb free data is an obvious scam that is not sustainable.

Gosh - isn't it too obvious??

onward4life:
Sars means blood spiller in SWAHILI!

Those guys seems to operate outside the ambit of the laws except those in Calabar... Very civil.

mytym:
Abeg which app can give different versions of same verse as you have posted it here? Kindly reply

The one he used here is Bible hub

mytym:
Abeg which app can give different versions of same verse as you have posted it here? Kindly reply

MySword
Bible hub
My Bible



Dem plenty

TechMike:
It is not juju, your supervisor only found out your Boss' mumu button.

Na jazz. It happens a lot where ever there is money


I don't want to mention some Secret because you never know who is who here .... A man very popular ... Once he was found culpable ..... Travelled ... Return .... No word till date on that



Now he has risen to oga even though not qualified.

Adisaowalla:
And 20GB free data oh

Some Nigerians are just too gullible

Main one that is giving out the data is not out shouting fraud but you. For your information, main one boss says they have idle capacity since berthing their optic fibre in Nigeria seven years ago. They will gladly give that out for a little earning.

My only worry is if they can transmit the data beyond Lagos zone because main one has infraco licence for the Lagos zone ... I ask tstv and they said they would but some regions wil be on 4g and others on 3

Pierocash:
Dstv jst trying hard to make business unfavourable for tstv so they can continue their exploitation.
What of CTL that is showing beIN sports, they are in Kuwait right?

I believe they do have an agreement. I listened to the owner of tstv say that hhis organisation entered into a non disclosure agreement in the presence of Nigerian regulatory authority member with bein right in Qatar.


Dstv has same right with Italia that enables them show live Italian leagues with

Nasa28:
Is that what church is all about? Buying of private jet?

Pls read about the old churches.

Even Jesus didn't even bother about those mundane things because they're of less important.

It is like you didn't read the article ...Josh nations of the earth did Jesus Christ visit? The work of evangelism pi's left to our erased our pastors need aircraft to fly across oceans

vengertime:
DSTV at work

No doubt. If they are broadcasting the channel illegally, this won't be the best way available to bein to make a statement ... This is purely the work of saboteurs

77carter:


touch and be touched

Abi na touch and be torch ..... This kind confidence sha