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Politics › Re: Ebelechukwu Obiano Buys Food Items From Market Ahead Of Election (Photos) by Themandator: 10:09pm On Nov 01, 2017
Nebuzaradan:
if you observe well the market people no send am again
She went into the market to advertise her religion ...The scapula is the koko
Politics › Re: Maina: I Am Not A Thief, N300 Million Stolen Everyday, I Have Documents (Video) by Themandator: 7:41am On Oct 30, 2017
kirajustice:
Embattled Ex-pensions boss, Abdulrasheed Maina is seen in the video below saying that he is not a thief and narrating his side of the story.

Maina says he is in possession of documents that will expose the level of corruption in Nigeria. He called on Nigerians not to believe the rumours about him, saying that he never stole N195 billion and alleging that N300 million was being stolen every day.

The time or date of the interview could not be ascertained but it is believed to have been taken during the period he went into hiding.

Watch the video below;

https://politicsngr.com/2017/10/29/not-thief-documents-will-expose-stolen-money-maina-video/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZH-zZ_PcoY
The way this guy spoke in one of his interviews back then made me sceptical about the fraud case against him. This guy was almost crying in that interview and was ready for the senate but they just handled him like there was already an answer irrespective of his submission.

Only God knows the truth this government ought to have made a better arrangement not have him tried since they want him they ought to have given him justice if he deserves one and then use him
Education › Re: "Babcock University Spends 20 Million On Electricity Monthly" - Vice Chancellor by Themandator: 8:55pm On Oct 29, 2017
almarthins:
My friend na lie be rhis , are u saying they spend N645,161 daily. Another padding case. Korokoro stealing.make dem investigate vc. Na thief be this one
The money is a huge amount to people like you but the truth is that a university that runs on private power supply will spend much more than that ... AGO at the depot is more than 200 per litres until just this past week .If they use two trucks only in a month, it wil be almost that amount
Education › Re: "Babcock University Spends 20 Million On Electricity Monthly" - Vice Chancellor by Themandator: 8:52pm On Oct 29, 2017
Aniedi30:
20million lies... how do u expect me to believe these or is it 200.000 naira how possible
One truck of 40,000 litres of AGO cost almost nine million naira without the transportation cost
Crime › Re: Lady Sent To Prison For Stealing One Month To Her Wedding by Themandator: 1:26pm On Oct 29, 2017
Islie:
http://pmexpressng.com/lady-sent-prison-stealing-one-month-wedding/
Firstly,,meat was kept in the fridge in their bedroom
Secondly , she stole dollar and went to change it and got fake dollars ...Do you change dollar for dollars?
Celebrities › Re: Mompha: "Hushpuppi Has A 4-Year-Old Son He Does Not Take Care Of” by Themandator: 1:23pm On Oct 29, 2017
agarawu23:
thank u.

This is what I was about to write.

A broke nigga that's is worth over 50m . that guy mompha didn't defend himself about him borrowing cloths and stuffs from hush.

With this their beef, I can sense that guy mompha is the worthless friend. That's Yoruba ppl's character, they eat with u and later bite u at ur back.
I read about that Momoha guy years back before hush entered the social space ... The guy was a very rich money changer back then in Lagos nbeofre he cleared out for Dubai
Celebrities › Re: Mompha Exposes Hushpuppi: Fraudster, Your Mom A Bread Seller & Dad A Taxi Driver by Themandator: 7:38pm On Oct 28, 2017
sKeetz:
To me I feel this is all a publicity stunt just like hush puppy's alleged feud with davido.

You say his broke and can't pay rent but he had 55 million naira which he bought just a watch with. What is house rent to someone who can spend that amount of money on just a watch. If he has money to buy all the luxurious items he wears, how come you now say he is broke. His broke but he could still afford to fly business class, buy expensive wears and live like a king. Are you saying all of this is fake. Did he photoshop himself in the private jets or the Gucci stores. Did he photoshop the Instagram verification too.

Come on, am not falling for this.
Comprehension is your major challenge .. go back and start all over , but this time , be very slow about it
Crime › Re: Little Girl Missing After She Was Taken From Her Mother In A Lagos Church.Photos by Themandator: 8:05am On Oct 28, 2017
ChangeIsCostant:
A Nigerian man identified as Anene Jasper, has raised an alarm over his missing daughter whom he said was allegedly abducted during a church program in Lagos. According to him, his 2 years and 6 months daughter, was taken from his wife at Anglican church of living faith in Abule-osun, Ojo area of Lagos since last Sunday and she is yet to be seen.

Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2017/10/father-raises-alarm-daughter-abducted-church-service-lagos-photos.html
Why did you pick a new name for the church, Winners is now you guys nightmare
Celebrities › Re: Burna Boy Flaunts His New Bentley (Photos) by Themandator: 9:34am On Oct 27, 2017
EaglesT:
The controversial Nigerian artiste Burna Boy flaunted his new car on his instagram story, it's a Bentley.
He's definitely happy about it and we his fans are also happy about it. We need more of this from you!
Pictures below
You need more of this from him, is that the music he is suppose to be making for you?
Politics › Re: Tony Nwoye Escapes Assassination Attempt In Anambra (Graphic Photos) by Themandator: 5:57pm On Oct 26, 2017
As e move an inch who the bullet come touch na abi people no stand around am or every every moved an inch too?
Celebrities › Re: Daddy Freeze Blasts Timi Dakolo: "You Dingbat, I Never Had Any Respect For You" by Themandator: 10:32am On Oct 26, 2017
somehow:
Abraham didn't give tithe Mr man. What he gave was a one off gift from the SPOILS of war, not from his own properties!

And to learn more about tithing and why its no longer applicable in the present day, read up from these sites
http://www.askelm.com/tithing/thi003.htm

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tithing/
Read your Bible again. This time, ask for help

1. Gen 14:20

2. Heb 7:2


You will see what you want to see from the scripture depending on the spirit at work in you.
Celebrities › Re: Daddy Freeze Blasts Timi Dakolo: "You Dingbat, I Never Had Any Respect For You" by Themandator: 10:26am On Oct 26, 2017
Mujtahida:
God has no agenda on earth. Men created an agenda and put God's name on it and have turned both the agenda and God's name into a veritable swindler's game
I was going to reply you but changed my mind because it is obvious you are not a Christian or if you are, you are just a shallow one with no knowledge or understanding of the scripture.


Never believe anyone could be this ignorant ... God has no agenda on the earth ...He just created man and the earth for no reason
Celebrities › Re: Daddy Freeze Blasts Timi Dakolo: "You Dingbat, I Never Had Any Respect For You" by Themandator: 10:24am On Oct 26, 2017
CecyAdrian:
When did the Levites come into existence Mr 'Paying tithe is right'

You Christian fanatics are always posing unrelated things to confuse gullible followers
The levites came into the tithe picture after father Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek.

Can you explain what is unrelated about my post?
Celebrities › Re: Daddy Freeze Blasts Timi Dakolo: "You Dingbat, I Never Had Any Respect For You" by Themandator: 11:41pm On Oct 25, 2017
I don't know where to find freeze but he sure needs further enlightenment on Tithing.


For sure, any view you hold about the word of God you are sure going to find a back up scripture to misinterpret. Tithe is forever God's way of financing his agenda here on the earth. It is not paid or given according to the law of Levite's ... Our tithe are in the order of Abraham ... He is our father in faith and if his blessings are ours , then his works and walks are the sure path to them ...


Abraham never gave his tithe to the Levite but to Melchizedek, the king of peace and righteousness...Titles reserved for the most high God
It is the reason Heb 7:8 says tithes are collected here by men who die but it is acknowledged by him of whom it is acknowledged liveth forever in heaven.


Let me stop here


I am a winner. Tithing is our way of rescue




FlirtyKaren:
Controversial Cool FM OAP, Daddy Freeze has replied Soul Singer, Timi Dakolo who slammed him over his reply on his marriage and divorce post.

Daddy Freeze who asked Timi Dakolo how long he has been married, and further said the singer is a product of shallow church doctrine, wrote;

"@timidakolo unlike you, I haven't waited all my life to respond to you, why should I? Who are you and where's the sense in what you write or what you stand for?
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You are a product of this same shallow doctrine yourself, the churches you perform at, where do you think they get the money to pay from?
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You speak about marriage, how long you been married for? What do you know? You say I don't have the right to comment on marriage, who gave you the license to comment?
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I was married for 10 whole years, you dingbat! If I can't comment on marriage, WHO CAN?
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You call my teachings 'demonic', why don't you back yours up with the Bible? My demonic teachings have full biblical support, how would you know? Do you read your bible?
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You follow pastors like sheep up and down, is it now paining you that they could be giving more gigs to younger artists, and you are now crying on the internet?
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Do you think I'm so stupid as not to know what that forlorn dirge you pasted on the internet about (ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE BUILDING YOUR DREAM OR THE PASTOR'S OWN..) stood for?
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You say you give tithe and offering to God when you give it to a pastor, is that what God said in Deuteronomy 14:22-26 or in Nehemiah 10:38?
Do you have a copy of the Bible at all? I suggest you get yourself one.
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I shouldn't be educating you, but do read from Matthew 25:32 to know what it takes to "give money to God" and pastor or man of God isn't in the equation.
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You don't know shit about my marriage, so you have no right whatsoever to comment on it, I didn't comment on yours, or how you are handling it, so don't get personal, your life is far from perfect.
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Typing in caps is shouting your words, NOT YOUR MESSAGE, which remains as vacuous as the writer.
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You lost respect for me? I never had any for you! Sorry, but I'm not big on pulpit puppets.
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Maybe if you spent more time writing music than writing for the blogs, more kids won't be wondering "who's timi dakolo?" ~FRZ
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#FreeTheSheeple"

https://www.lailasblog.com/unlike-timi-dakolo-havent-waited-life-respond-daddy-freeze-fires-back-timi-dakolo/
Crime › Re: SARS Accusing Of Stealing Bags Of Garri At Gunpoint From Traders In Rivers by Themandator: 5:42pm On Oct 25, 2017
Every time I read the Bible , some passages always befuddles me. The passages that would list the family genealogy of persons and I kept wondering why it had to be in the bible. Then I asked the teacher what the message was and he said:

Trace your lineage so you know when and how the curse came in. That is the message.

These ones have started a new lineage today without knowing it. A lineage that will be hunted by this act of stealing from the poor. Every labourers deserve their wage...the wage of the labourer has been stolen from them and anything they say as curse will not only affect this people but through the seed of their loin and umbilical cord, passed into the next generation and unto the fourth.


Remedy is restitution and asking this people for forgiveness
Politics › Re: 60th Birthday Of Mike Ozekhome: Patience & Goodluck Jonathan, Ekweremadu Spotted by Themandator: 4:32pm On Oct 25, 2017
id911:
hmmmmm... Wish you happy birthday Sir!


Meanwhile Atikulate 2019 Loading...
I like this picture of Waziri ... A man that can handle latest technology with easy not peering at it like ....... Hate speech just came to my mind
Politics › Re: Maina’s Recall, Promotion: I Acted In Public Interest – Malami by Themandator: 9:55am On Oct 25, 2017
eagleeye2:
He means he acted in Zombies' interest.

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EFCC... should please spare us side distractions they want to cause now by tracing and marking Maina's houses. Please I dey beg them. They knew the Wanted person in the list was back into the country, but chose to turn a blind eye. So they should just continue pretending as if they were Dumb, Deaf and Blind. So that we can focus on those that reinstated the man.
Thank you.
I wonder if they just learnt the locations of those property, this week even though the man is not yet in their custody abi na arrange whistle blower tinz ...somebody don position for reward
Politics › Re: Operation Crocodile Smile: See What Soldiers Did In A Nairalander's Community by Themandator: 6:21pm On Oct 23, 2017
brightec:
As the Nigeria Army kick starts its "Operation Crocodile smile" in the South-South, the 6th Port Harcourt division arrived IGBO ETCHE community in Etche Local Government Area of Rivers.

They the community school, (Community Secondary School Igbo Etche) and distributed some academic materials to the students. In addition, the 6th division is currently on a medical outreach in the school of which an aged woman regain her sight.

The soldiers went ahead for community service by removing the refuse site located and the entrance of the community.

This helped to calm the fear in the community as residents were in chaos last Tuesday when the soldiers arrived, people were running to withdraw their children from school
Applying abecedarian solution to a fundamental challenge ..... they tried kudo but that is scarcely a solution expected from such an institution towards refuse management
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, His Wives And Children In Cute Family Photo by Themandator: 2:31pm On Oct 23, 2017
IForgotMyLoginD:
Awww the crown prince is not in the picture. Probably busy on some royal assignment.
Someone once told me the king can’t be in the same with the crown prince .that they will never meet in person ,for life ..plenty stories I don’t even know facts from myths.
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, His Wives And Children In Cute Family Photo by Themandator: 2:28pm On Oct 23, 2017
I was of the opinion that the Oba doesn’t show his teeth in public .... from the coronation pictures then he was seen covering his mouth with an handkerchief even his wives
Car Talk › Re: Would You Buy This Almost Brand New 1985 BMW 323i For N30m? (photos) by Themandator: 2:24pm On Oct 23, 2017
AutoJoshNG:
We all know BMW fans in Nigeria are core enthusiasts.. they have the BMW Club of Nigeria, they do racing competitions, BMW shows and they every had a BMW Festival on Saturday. But is anyone that hardcore to drop a whooping N30million for this 1985 BMW 323i (E30)?

It's almost brand new with mileage as low as just 260km from birth. It has a 2.3 liter straight six engine with 150 horsepower. It also comes with a five-speed manual transmission. 

As obvious from the pictures, the car looks as clean as new and the owner is asking for only $82,000 for this car to be yours. 

Would you buy this or a 2017 BMW M3 instead? Tell us in the comment section.

Also like, rate and share.

https://autojosh.com/buy-almost-brand-new-1985-bmw-323i-n30m-photos/
Why that amount when it is not that scarce in Nigeria maybe for their side .... this very model is still plying our roads even if not as new as this one .
Romance › Re: Man And His Burka Wearing Lady At A Beach In The North (Photos) by Themandator: 12:21pm On Oct 23, 2017
CastedDude:
Online users can't get enough of this trending photo after it was posted online. According to the social media user who shared this, a man decided to have fun with his partner as he took her to the beach. But what caught the attention of most people - was the couple's dressing most especially the lady who covered herself in a Burka from head to toe.

Netizens are trying to comprehend how and why the lady felt comfortable in wearing such cloth to the beach instead of wearing a relaxing outfit.

The duo were spotted happily at a beach in the northern part of Nigeria.

Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2017/10/man-takes-covered-partner-beach-north-got-people-talking.html
Culture ...hmmm
Politics › Re: Dogara Donated Six Months Salary To Covenant University – Oyedepo by Themandator: 8:40pm On Oct 22, 2017
jayson87:
I assure you there is no blessing in that giving. There are 10 of thousands of hungry people in his constituency. He should have bought relief materials for them with that salary

God is not stupid. You can appeal to man but stink to God
Who are you assuring, he moved from being a salary earner to being your fourth official citizen.

Assurance PLC , compare your blessing to that and tell us how you fare.... I assure you, you are of no consequence.
Politics › Re: Dogara Donated Six Months Salary To Covenant University – Oyedepo by Themandator: 8:33pm On Oct 22, 2017
wirinet:
When i start getting salary? Well, this is an anonymous forum so there is not need boasting of our achievements. For your information, i graduated from OAU and i did not pay tuition fees.
Good. Go back there and give them six months of your salary or are you an anonymous Dangote, then start a welfare scheme in your state and send all the poor to OAU..... stop analyzing another man’s personal decision ... his money , his life
Politics › Re: Dogara Donated Six Months Salary To Covenant University – Oyedepo by Themandator:
omenka:
Nonsense. All these are for nothing but to shore up ones political capital.

Nigerian politicians understand how extraordinarily obsessed Nigerians are with religion, so, whenever they wanna face the ballot, all they need to do is deploy this card, be they Christians or Muslims.

I would rather donate such huge amounts of money to an academic institution than to ANY Church, not even that which I attend. The reason behind some of the worst problems we face as a nation is mass illiteracy and our politicians leverage on that whenever they engage the people.

Imagine what this country would have looked like if we had as much schools as the are churches and mosques!

Smh.
Dogara wasn't a politician 15 years ago.... he was a mere salary earner in one corner of the north. .... he gave it foolishly and yet has become richer and better than you even with your better intelligence and nobility.


This should be of concern to you that those being scammmed gets up the ladder while the clever and smart ones explain their smartness on forums
Politics › Re: Dogara Donated Six Months Salary To Covenant University – Oyedepo by Themandator: 8:05pm On Oct 22, 2017
pauljumbo:
My life changed when I start listening to bishop Oyedepo he is gift to humanity.
The best thing that ever happened to my spiritual and economic life was joining his ministry... Zero regret
Christianity Etc › Re: When And Why Did You Change The Church You Were Born Into? by Themandator: 8:12am On Oct 22, 2017
Ubenedictus:
actually the Corinthian case is very much on point... it clearly shows an apostle declaring a sin forgiven with the authority of Christ and it has nothing to do with illness. it clearly shows that sins aren't only declared forgiven only during healings as you claimed. here an apostle declare a sin forgiven without reference to an ailment.

again you seem ignorant of the fact that confession isn't limited to a box, in fact it can happen anywhere and in ancient times it was done right before the assembly in some Christian churches, those communities only stopped public confession when some people started to use it for blackmail purpose.

lol did Jesus read from a new testament or solemnise Sunday... did he teach in gentile country? the apostles and disciples wrote a new testament, worshipped on Sundays, and taught in gentile lands, they had the holy spirit who guided them in organising the Church. even Paul who didn't see the Lord while on earth received by revelation. besides the Gospels didn't claim to record every time Jesus forgave sin for you to claim Paul made a mistake when he declared forgiveness even without ailment
The adulterous woman was chased to where Jesus Christ was and he said...any one who has not committed sin let him be the first to throw stone.... The woman was not sick ... she committed sin and was caught ...she did not go to confession but was caught ...... This ties with when he see your brother commiting sin ...you need to see it spiritually like Jesus always saw it in the sprit realm and forgave ... He didn't need the help of the sinner


Carry go you Don win
Christianity Etc › Re: When And Why Did You Change The Church You Were Born Into? by Themandator: 11:11pm On Oct 21, 2017
Haha Rev. Fr.
Carry go


Newman wrote that book before becoming a Catholic and actuaugaveit to the church to edit to suit their doctrines and practices but they could not but rather told him that he wrote it as a non Catholic.


That book traced the history of the pagan root of most of your practices.... Not just confession including Christmas and even the changing of the worship days to Sundays but as far you be father carry go ...make I keep my sword ...you win.... Confession na the real thing

Ubenedictus:
here I challenge you to tell us the book in which John Henry Newman made such claim and provide the quote in its context.

I have read not more than 2 books written by card. Newman, he was an Anglican priest who converted to Catholicism and is pretty intelligent, I have a feeling you are misquoting him.

should it be different then it would be that he was only mistaken since the practice of confession has been in the Church from the beginning, note the following documents

The Didache – The Earliest Christian Catechism
(pre-dating some of the canonical writings of the
New Testament)
“Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to
your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the
way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather
together, break bread, and give thanks, after
confessing your transgressions so that your
sacrifice may be pure”
(Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).
The Letter of Barnabas
“You shall judge righteously. You shall not make
a schism, but you shall pacify those that contend
by bringing them together. You shall confess
your sins. You shall not go to prayer with an evil
conscience. This is the way of light”
(Letter of Barnabas 19 [A.D. 74]).
St. Ignatius of Antioch
“For as many as are of God and of Jesus Christ
are also with the bishop. And as many as shall,
in the exercise of penance, return into the unity
of the Church, these, too, shall belong to God,
that they may live according to Jesus Christ”
(Letter to the Philadelphians 3 [A.D. 106]).
“For where there is division and wrath, God does
not dwell. To all them that repent, the Lord
grants forgiveness, if they turn in penitence to
the unity of God, and to communion with the
bishop”
(ibid., cool.
St. Irenaeus of Lyons
“[The Gnostic disciples of Marcus] have deluded
many women. . . . Their consciences have been
branded as with a hot iron. Some of these
women make a public confession [of their
previous heresy/sins], but others are ashamed to
do this, and in silence, as if withdrawing from
themselves the hope of the life of God, they
either apostatize entirely or hesitate between the
two courses”
(Against Heresies 1:22 [A.D. 189]).
Tertullian of Carthage
“[Regarding confession, some] flee from this
work as being an exposure of themselves, or
they put it off from day to day. I presume they
are more mindful of modesty than of salvation,
like those who contract a disease in the more
shameful parts of the body and shun making
themselves known to the physicians; and thus
they perish along with their own bashfulness”
(Repentance 10:1 [A.D. 203]).
St. Hippolytus of Rome
“[The bishop conducting the ordination of the
new bishop shall pray:] God and Father of our
Lord Jesus Christ. . . . Pour forth now that power
which comes from you, from your royal Spirit,
which you gave to your beloved Son, Jesus
Christ, and which he bestowed upon his holy
apostles . . . and grant this your servant, whom
you have chosen for the episcopate, [the power]
to feed your holy flock and to serve without
blame as your high priest, ministering night and
day to propitiate unceasingly before your face
and to offer to you the gifts of your holy Church,
and by the Spirit of the high priesthood to have
the authority to forgive sins, in accord with your
command”
(Apostolic Tradition 3 [A.D. 215]).
Origen of Alexandria
“[A final method of forgiveness], albeit hard and
laborious [is] the remission of sins through
penance, when the sinner . . . does not shrink
from declaring his sin to a priest of the Lord and
from seeking medicine, after the manner of him
who say, ‘I said, “To the Lord I will accuse
myself of my iniquity”’”
(Homilies on Leviticus 2:4 [A.D. 248]).
St. Cyprian of Carthage
“The apostle [Paul] likewise bears witness and
says: ‘ . . . Whoever eats the bread or drinks the
cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty of the
body and blood of the Lord’ [1 Cor. 11:27]. But
[the impenitent] spurn and despise all these
warnings; before their sins are expiated, before
they have made a confession of their crime,
before their conscience has been purged in the
ceremony and at the hand of the priest . . . they
do violence to [the Lord’s] body and blood, and
with their hands and mouth they sin against the
Lord more than when they denied him”
(The Lapsed 15:1–3 (A.D. 251]).
“Of how much greater faith and salutary fear are
they who . . . confess their sins to the priests of
God in a straightforward manner and in sorrow,
making an open declaration of conscience. . . . I
beseech you, brethren, let everyone who has
sinned confess his sin while he is still in this
world, while his confession is still admissible,
while the satisfaction and remission made
through the priests are still pleasing before the
Lord”
(ibid., 28).
“[S]inners may do penance for a set time, and
according to the rules of discipline come to
public confession, and by imposition of the hand
of the bishop and clergy receive the right of
Communion. [But now some] with their time [of
penance] still unfulfilled . . . they are admitted to
Communion, and their name is presented; and
while the penitence is not yet performed,
confession is not yet made, the hands of the
bishop and clergy are not yet laid upon them, the
Eucharist is given to them; although it is written,
‘Whosoever shall eat the bread and drink the cup
of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body
and blood of the Lord’ [1 Cor. 11:27]“
(Letters 9:2 [A.D. 253]).
“And do not think, dearest brother, that either the
courage of the brethren will be lessened, or that
martyrdoms will fail for this cause, that penance
is relaxed to the lapsed, and that the hope of
peace [i.e., absolution] is offered to the penitent.
. . . For to adulterers even a time of repentance
is granted by us, and peace is given”
(ibid., 51[55]:20).
“But I wonder that some are so obstinate as to
think that repentance is not to be granted to the
lapsed, or to suppose that pardon is to be denied
to the penitent, when it is written, ‘Remember
whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the
first works’ [Rev. 2:5], which certainly is said to
him who evidently has fallen, and whom the Lord
exhorts to rise up again by his deeds [of
penance], because it is written, ‘Alms deliver
from death’ [Tob. 12:9]“
(ibid., 51[55]:22).
St. Aphraahat the Persian
“You [priests], then, who are disciples of our
illustrious physician [Christ], you ought not deny
a curative to those in need of healing. And if
anyone uncovers his wound before you, give him
the remedy of repentance. And he that is
ashamed to make known his weakness,
encourage him so that he will not hide it from
you. And when he has revealed it to you, do not
make it public, lest because of it the innocent
might be reckoned as guilty by our enemies and
by those who hate us”
(Treatises 7:3 [A.D. 340]).
St. Basil the Great
“It is necessary to confess our sins to those to
whom the dispensation of God’s mysteries is
entrusted. Those doing penance of old are found
to have done it before the saints. It is written in
the Gospel that they confessed their sins to
John the Baptist [Matt. 3:6], but in Acts [19:18]
they confessed to the apostles”
(Rules Briefly Treated 288 [A.D. 374]).
St. John Chrysostom
“Priests have received a power which God has
given neither to angels nor to archangels. It was
said to them: ‘Whatsoever you shall bind on
earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever
you shall loose, shall be loosed.’ Temporal rulers
have indeed the power of binding; but they can
only bind the body. Priests, in contrast, can bind
with a bond which pertains to the soul itself and
transcends the very heavens. Did [God] not give
them all the powers of heaven? ‘Whose sins you
shall forgive,’ he says, ‘they are forgiven them;
whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.’
What greater power is there than this? The
Father has given all judgment to the Son. And
now I see the Son placing all this power in the
hands of men [Matt. 10:40; John 20:21–23].
They are raised to this dignity as if they were
already gathered up to heaven”
(The Priesthood 3:5 [A.D. 387]).
St. Ambrose of Milan
“For those to whom [the right of binding and
loosing] has been given, it is plain that either
both are allowed, or it is clear that neither is
allowed. Both are allowed to the Church, neither
is allowed to heresy. For this right has been
granted to priests only”
(Penance 1:1 [A.D. 388]).
St. Jerome of Stridonium
“If the serpent, the devil, bites someone secretly,
he infects that person with the venom of sin.
And if the one who has been bitten keeps silence
and does not do penance, and does not want to
confess his wound . . . then his brother and his
master, who have the word [of absolution] that
will cure him, cannot very well assist him”
(Commentary on Ecclesiastes 10:11 [A.D. 388]).
St. Augustine of Hippo
“When you shall have been baptized, keep to a
good life in the commandments of God so that
you may preserve your baptism to the very end. I
do not tell you that you will live here without sin,
but they are venial sins which this life is never
without. Baptism was instituted for all sins. For
light sins, without which we cannot live, prayer
was instituted. . . . But do not commit those sins
on account of which you would have to be
separated from the body of Christ. Perish the
thought! For those whom you see doing penance
have committed crimes, either adultery or some
other enormities. That is why they are doing
penance. If their sins were light, daily prayer
would suffice to blot them out. . . . In the
Church, therefore, there are three ways in which
sins are forgiven: in baptisms, in prayer, and in
the greater humility of penance”
(Sermon to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15,
8:16 [A.D. 395]).



this clearly show Christian practicing confession from the 1st century. so you're incorrect.

I'm still waiting for the quote from Newman.

Christianity Etc › Re: When And Why Did You Change The Church You Were Born Into? by Themandator: 10:58pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ubenedictus:
my earlier response was removed by the antispam boot, so I'm trying to rewrite so you finally agree that through the ministry of the presbyter sins are forgiven?
I don't intend to continue this see-saw discussion with you. .... I never argued whether sins are forgiven by the prayers of the presbyter.... I stated that at the point if Anointing oil, sins have been taken care of and since it has been forgiven at that point without confession of any kind imputed that you can return to re forgive same sin again in your brand of confession



The scripture says use Anointing oil in him and then pray and if he has committed any sin it shall be forgiven ...is it has been forgiven what sin do you hope tomorrow again in confessional box


The scripture went down to to say categorically, confess your sin one to another ...never to the elders but one to another ...... If this sentence was part of your comprehension passage and you are already what it means as used in the past we , would you give it the meaning you are ascribing to it: confession your sin to the presbyter.


This is common grammar ... It doesn't invite all the confusion and misleading interpretation you have tried to associate with it but if you are okay with that your view point , carry gon abeg

Education › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: My Adopted Son Was Also Thrown Out Of Covenant University. by Themandator: 12:54pm On Oct 19, 2017
Elxandre:
Stop saying divisive rubbish like this in public.

I don't know where you guys get this sectional spirit from.
What is divisive about my comment ...you guys come online and make unfounded statement like ...church members tithe and offering ...now I have stated how the members benefit from their tithe and offering you call that a divisive statement ...how?
Education › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: My Adopted Son Was Also Thrown Out Of Covenant University. by Themandator: 12:48pm On Oct 19, 2017
Elxandre:
You mean the school is for the church members alone right?
The scholarship is for members and rightly so..... If you have your church school ,go there and ask for scholarship...charity begins at home ...otherwise pay your fees or go else

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