₦airaland Forum

IfnobeGod20:
Yes, it was. The only political party still in existence till date, spanning over 30 years now.

You are a baby if you do not know that Abacha swept away both SDP and NRC, then started his own 5 parties, who were all planning to endorse him before his death.

Those Abacha 5 parties,

1. United Nigeria Congress Party (UNCP)
2. Congress for National Concensus (CNC)
3. Grassroot Democracy Movement (GDM)
4. Democratic Party of Nigeria (DPN)
5. National Center Party of Nigeria (NCPN)

Did not include any SDP or NRC.

Nor was there any SDP or NRC when during the Abdulsalami Abubakar regime, we had PDP, APP and AD.

The current SDP only came about some few years ago, just as NRC can be recreated anytime if any group of politicians feel so inclined, but that will not mean it has been existing all this while.

Or you mean if AG or NCNC is created again, it would mean the newly formed party have been existing since before independence?

So those of us who are not ignorant, are right to say Tinubu did not dump any party, but has entered into alliances with his faction of AD to have the current APC. All the time being a foundational member and not a ticket hunter member looking for where food is ready.

MrBrownJay1:
way too late to have a valid replacement...

Still enough time to campaign before elections in November and nominations have not been ratified yet until the Democratic convention is held.

Eriokanmi:
Not even only that. I don't have the time of all the nairaland's Trump's almanjiris who aren't even eligible to travel to America talkless of voting their hero. Whites really misbehaved during Trump's era. We could also see how the white police acted on blacks .

Not only that, there was a white boy who shot a black buy at a rally and claimed he acted on self defence, despite the fact that the guy didn't even near him, talkless of attacking, with the cctv footage evidence and the court acquitted him. What of the young EMS black girl who was shot severally by white police in the abdomen, without committing any offence?

If trump should come back, more of such rascalities are inevitable . Trump is a racist and he's not even hiding it.

Trump has never pretended not to be a racist to secure the support of his hillbilly MAGA lunatics.

What I am trying to say is that Trump has had to pretend to be a racist to keep the bandwagon he has supporting him.

And that need to continue to project his racist act, is what led to the escalation of the Black Lives Matter protests that eventually galvanized the Democrats to defeat him.

I believe that he wonders at times, how lucky he is to have such a large crowd of "deplorables" who need somebody to lead them, and he appeared on the scene at the right time.

Trump took the US to a new low, that even we in Nigeria can draw references from his era in power to defend our own very low democracy.

Imagine the Capitol Hill insurrection.

China and Russia would just be laughing at the so-called leader of the democratic free world.

I have seen recent videos of President Biden and coupled with the information released today (Wednesday 17th July), that he has contacted COVID-19 again, I would wager that he will quit the presidential race before the end of this month, if not by end of this week.

Most top Democrats both in the Senate and House of Representatives, are now piling more pressure on Biden to drop out and take care of his health.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, what? Treason to want to bring to an end the current administration? Are you OK at all? Where in the Supreme Law of the land is this stated?

Just note that if one particular government can be brought to an end outside of the constitutional methods, then all governments can be likewise brought to an end in whatever way any interested group see fit.

We can all exhibit madness at our respective appointed times.

I watched him on CNN some hours ago, but still did not get the details of what interaction between him and the flight attendant resulted to him deserving handcuffs.

Flight attendants think themselves to be God because they fly in the air.

Airline staff, even the ones on the ground, need a new orientation on how they engage their patrons.

Sheuns:
They’ve so long sold the lies that Tinubu has remained in a party all his political life. That’s not true. Like someone above rightly said he crossed from SDP to AD, formed AC which was renamed to ACN and later merged with other parties to form APC. So that’s SDP - AD - AC - ACN - APC

Can Tinubu remain in SDP if the party did not exist as, at 1998 when new parties were created to begin the return to democracy?

So from AD that was later factionlized with multiple Party Chairman claims, his faction of AD formed the AC with other party politicians which changed name to ACN, just like APP changed name to ANPP, then same ACN went into a merger with ANPP, CPC, and a faction of APGA.

The recurring decimal is that Tinubu moved with his party all the time and was a foundational member of those party transitions.

He was not a ticket hunter or political prostitute moving up and down to existing parties.

AcuraZDX:
Wrong how?

Was Tinubu in SDP.

I just need Yes or No answer.

Did SDP exist when Nigeria was to return to democracy with the death of Gen Sani Abacha?

Congratulations to her.

nedu666:
Say no to protest in the east. So that in future no body from the south west will try the nonsense they did in ojota under jona. Secondly, no protest will lay to rest any Yoruba man critiquing any govt in future when they have failed.

The Ojota protest you continue to reference is the reason why Yorubas realised that they should stop protesting when their own brother or political ally is in power.

For the first time since democratic Nigeria, the igbos then and till now made the 2012 anti-subsidy protest a Yoruba and North protest, despite that all of Nigeria enjoyed the reprieve that came from that protest.

We will always remember your treachery and unlike the protests during the Obasanjo and Yar'Adua regimes, we will not lead any protest against our own political benefits like SouthEast and SouthSouth proved to us in 2012.

Thanks for reminding us all the origin of the ethnic classification of a national protest. Till today, you refer to the Ojota protest of 2012 as a tribal nonsense, so every other protest must remain a tribal nonsense.

And that is how and why protests have been hard under the Buhari and Tinubu regimes, because it is all nonsense as defined by the SouthEast and SouthSouth.

DMerciful:
Tinubu will not do 8yrs.

Pls stop discouraging people. If you don't wanna protest, keep it in your mind.

How can you tell people to be happy in servitude and you're even telling them to accept it for 16yrs. What kind of hopelessness is this?

Dem dey try to rehabilitate you from your delusion, but you insist that you must bear agony for 16years.

Na you wan remove Tinubu?

To put who?

mrvitalis:
Please don't involve South in your troubles

Yoruba president is giving it to North

Let's maintain the energy please

Is Akpabio from SouthWest?

Or is the Senate President not from the SouthSouth?

So if both Tinubu and Akpabio are jointly referred to a Southern politicians, is that an error?

Kukutenla:
So I have given you two situations of impeachment of deputy gov by their Oga.

Why do you now support Wike against Fubara? Ain't that hypocrisy?

Have you given proof of me supporting any impeachment of any Governor or Deputy as an abuse of democratic process?

I support that they keep the harmony however way possible, else Fubara should forget about a 2nd term ticket with a PDP that Wike controls.

The irony is those who considered Fubara an illegitimate Governor, but are now fully praising him to slight Wike who is considered a more dangerous political enemy.

And we are back to how the legend of wicked Wike was created to slight Amaechi because he was not in the good books of President Jonathan and the First Lady.

Amaechi wanted to be an independent Governor that ran his state without the influence of Abuja, but Patience Jonathan and husband would not have that, and junior minister Wike kept using federal resources to embarrass and harass a duly elected Governor who was ultimately forced out of the then ruling party (PDP).

Who were those urging Wike on then and celebrating every abuse of federal power?

You and I know they are the same people who have now become tired of the wiked Wike they created.

Brendaniel:
And why didn't you allow the southern president complete his 8 years like you guys did for Buhari?

You mean you also do not know that Jonathan was advised not to regard the SouthWest?

That with the SouthSouth, SouthEast, and MiddleBelt in his side, the Muslim North and SoutWest will not taste power again.

So it is no surprise that he failed woefully in the same SouthWest who led his campaign to be recognised as Acting President, and who supported him in his first president election.

The real surprise is that even the MiddleBelt got tired of his cluelessness, and supported Buhari and APC in 2015.

helinues:
2011 election have been erased in some of you guys calendar

For some of them, Nigeria began in 2015.

Kukutenla:
What about that of Bauchi deputy gov that the state High court overturned?

Lucky him.

What should be the norm has become aberration, so I say lucky him.

LegendHero:
This one look like lamba.

I also saw the video of youths blocking off the road to the refinery while drinking beer. But I think it might all be a setup coz why now.

If truly any youth is doing it alone, deploy the police/military to teach them a bitter lesson for the act of national sabotage.

Youths wey I for don flog commot and house them in DSS cell, while turning their community to a military camp.

Unperturbedpota:


Your comment is as laughable as it is poorly thought out. Blaming idle soldiers and police for the actions of vandals and saboteurs shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how security and governance work. Let's break down your flawed reasoning and point out the real issues.

Firstly, expecting soldiers and police to shoot vandals on sight reveals a dangerous and inhumane mindset. Do you really think summary executions are the solution? What you’re suggesting is anarchy, not law and order. Enforcing laws requires more than just brute force; it requires intelligence, strategy, and respect for human rights.

Secondly, firing Mele Kyari for issues that are systemic and deeply rooted in corruption, inadequate infrastructure, and poor governance is a simplistic and naive solution. Leadership changes are necessary, but they need to be part of a broader strategy that addresses the root causes of these problems.

Your suggestion that soldiers and police should act as executioners is not only illegal but also counterproductive. It would lead to more chaos, human rights violations, and international condemnation. The real solution involves comprehensive reforms in security, better coordination between agencies, and robust community engagement to tackle the root causes of vandalism and sabotage.

Blaming one person or suggesting extrajudicial killings doesn't address the complexity of the situation. It's time to move beyond simplistic and violent solutions and start thinking about sustainable, lawful, and humane ways to protect national assets and ensure security.

If you truly want to see change, advocate for systemic reforms, accountability at all levels of government, and better training and resources for security personnel. Your current approach is not only misguided but dangerous, and it's certainly not the way to build a stable and prosperous nation.

I pity you if you were in executive office and do not know how to even bite those who are wielding knives at you.

E be like say you be JJC?

You must be from the UK where the Prime Minister resigns over any trifle because it is a fancy gentlemanly thing to do.

You think those against you are also gentlemen from the UK?

Kukutenla:
It stood. It was not reversed. He was later pardoned. He pursued the case in a Lagos High Court and it was dismissed.

For someone who goes about showing Throwback of others, you seem not to be faring better

Did he pursue it further and get a final judicial conclusion?

No!

Because he opted for a political solution to an impeachment that was itself political.

My position has not changed on this matter regardless of the state or the politicians involved.

Any legal pursuit need to be taken away from the dictatorial influence of the state Governor, so a state court will not just cut it.

Anyone who wants to protest should be allowed to do so in any part of the country.

My only problem is that since Tinubu and his party became the governing party in 2015, they have refused to teach the new opposition how to go about a protest.

If the protests hold, and vandalism becomes the order of the day, let the tear gasses start flying heavily in that direction, and arrests must be made and prosecution effected.

No one has the right to be a nuisance to another.

bussyJJ:
I am very sure OBI no get time for the attention seeking guy

Did it pain you that he referenced Obi in the waste of funds by buying over 450 cars for Igwes?

Kukutenla:
You have veered off into something else
Can you explain the impeachment of Femi Pedro by Tinubu and why it stood

That was in 2007 I believe, and I believe it was later reversed by the Lagos State assembly. If it was pursued fully in the courts (federal) like he was already doing, I am certain his impeachment would have been nullified.

So we cannot say it stood.

Kukutenla:
How do you know Fubara is the one quarrelling with Wike and not the other way round.
It was Wike who ordered for his impeachment as we all know.

Since the benefactor singlehandedly put him in office, same benefactor cannot just want him out of office immediately, except there is a refusal on the part of the Godson to submit to the dictates of the Godfather. That refusal from the Godson is inherently the quarrel.

Any impeachment of Fubara owing to his political disagreement with Wike, will not stand in any court.

Such abuse of legislative and democratic processes are being heavily discouraged at the federal courts.

State courts as we all know, are mighty useless.

The most Wike should expect as a victory in this ongoing feud, is to prevent Fubara from securing a return ticket of PDP.

Kukutenla:
Explain this

Simple!

Do not quarrel with your benefactor.

Except he does not intend to go for a 2nd term, or unlike Ambode, he knows how to win the primaries of a party that is controlled by his benefactor.

He should heed the advice of Peter Obi who vowed not to try such political suicide of quarelling with Wike.

It is laughable.

You have idle soldiers in the barracks, and you have police suffering from accidental discharge of their weapons, yet you are complaining that vandals and saboteurs are destroying a national asset.

Are the vandals spirits and are they immune to a bullet in the head?

It is long overdue for Mele Kyari to be fired.

LegendHero:
I’ve watched the movie. It was fantastic.

I think it’s been around for years tho. Watched it last year or last 2 years. Can’t remember.

I belive it was released in 2016 or thereabouts.

nedu666:
Joe said he is the leader of ndiigbo in lagos. Who made him lgbo leader. When did lgbos gather to make him leader. All this people keep giving them selves unmerited title. Igbo leader my ass

I hope you say the same about the riff-raff Kanu?

Besides, Joe Igbokwe clearly said leader of Igbos in Lagos APC.

Jay Jay Okocha na Agba Baller.

Agba Baller will always be a senior man anyday, anytime, anywhere.

Jay Jay and Kanu, will always standout as the greatest football exports out of Nigeria.

Kanu went a step further with his humanitarian Kanu Heart Foundation.

Kukutenla:
Wike and Fubara. Tell us about it

Same situation.

No one should be threatened with impeachment due to political fallouts with their benefactors.

If Wike has fallen out with Fubara, the political thing to be done is to deny him your political support for a new term, while Fubara tries to re-attain the same office with his own political goodwill and capital if he can build such.

It is that simple, and that was what played out with Ambode in Lagos. Without the support of Tinubu, Ambode could not re-attain the party ticket he previously got owing to Tinubu's support.

Democracy simply played itself out without the abuse of any power to suspend from party, or to impeach, or to screen-out from participating in the primary like Obaseki suffered at the hands of Oshiomhole.

The irony is that Obaseki who suffered such abuse of power, still went ahead to repeat a similar abuse with the impeachment of his deputy that was simply exercising his democratic franchise.

jaxxy:
Shiabu contested and lost. what are u talking about?

He claims he won the actual primary.

That aside, he was impeached just because the Governor believed he had the power to do so.

Unperturbedpota:
It's clear you're entrenched in your own self-righteous narrative, trying to pass off your biases as objective opinions. Your transparent attempt to paint yourself as some impartial critic while making sweeping generalizations about others only highlights your shallow understanding of the issues.

Your disdain for Kanu and your indifference to the judicial process concerning him reveal your inability to see beyond your prejudices. Legal processes should be respected, and justice should be served impartially, regardless of personal feelings. Your selective outrage is glaringly obvious.

As for your commentary on Peter Obi and other politicians, your thinly veiled disdain for any critique of your preferred politicians while freely condemning others showcases your hypocrisy. Condemnation of failures should be based on facts and fairness, not on biased cherry-picking of who deserves scrutiny and who doesn’t.

Your claim of never condemning federal court judgments while lambasting state-level actions as "dictatorial" is a flimsy shield for your inconsistent stance on justice. It's laughable to see you try to maintain a facade of impartiality when your words reek of double standards.

If you want to be taken seriously in discussions about governance and justice, drop the hypocritical act. Engage in honest, fact-based critiques without the need for personal vendettas or selective outrage. Until then, your arguments will continue to be as transparent and unconvincing as your attempts to appear unbiased.

I see what your problem is that is causing your agony.

You love Kanu the riff-raff terrorists who wanted to usurp the constitutional and legitimate leadership that the people of the SouthEast region already have, and considered himself their government who must dictate to them and also dictate to the federal government who must therefore acknowledge him and call him to the table to discuss matters that affect the SouthEast.

The ego of the riff-raff has been deflated and the madness he suffers will soon be exorcised from his being.

Secondly, you are part of the Obidient bandwagon who insist Obi is saint and must be forced down the throat of everyone. You retain your right to criticise other politicians but become terribly upset to the point of insanity, that a mere mortal dare to criticise saint Obi of the beggy-beggy Yes Daddy religious warfare infamy?

You do not dictate what is right or wrong.

Keep all eyes on the judiciary and be accepting of their judicial outcomes which must not always align with your prejudices and delusions.

jaxxy:
did u or did u not call Vp Prof Osinbajo a judas for declaring for president?

Did u lot not slander the Vp for exercising his constitutional right? The only difference is u were not buhari who can impeach him but every other thing u did against him.


Same thing u lot did to ambode.

Ambode lost the support of his political benefactor and Godfather, but was not prevented from contesting for the party ticket, which he lost woefully in a direct primary. Nothing undemocratic about that scenario.

I am happy you mentioned every other thing besides abusing powers just to settle political differences.

There is nothing absurd about political differences and attacks between opposing camps, what matters is the abuse of power and processes to achieve victory over the political opponent.

Again, I am happy you could not reference such abuse of power or process in the examples you have given.

A case of comparing apples to oranges.