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Nihilist:
Exactly.

Not playing as no 9 is no reason why almight Lukaku wont register a couple of saves and or cleansheets for Chelsea.

I'm a bit annoyed now that Cortouis hasn't drifted into the opposition penalty box and scored for us either. Useless Thibault.

You know, this your sarcasm is TOTALLY uncalled for and way way off the debate on ground.

All outfield players are expected to score once in a while, especially attacking players. Same cannot be said for goalkeepers.

A 'keeper can play for a club for 20 seasons with 0 goals and no one will even notice but is that the same with an attacking player?

I don't see how Courtois come into this discussion.

Ibime:
Does Lukaku look like no7 or no9 in your eye?

The Giroud you used as an example, have you ever seen him playing on the wing? What if Costa, or Drogba.

Maybe you even expect Rashidi Yekini to play on the wings abi?

Even still, tell us how many games Lukaku started on the wings.

You yarning nonsense mate, that is no insult. Lukaku is a typical no9.

First of all, I have never made ANY reference to Giroud.

Are you saying that Drogba or Costa don't drift out wide during games? Does that hinder their scoring abilities?

Ibime you can never justify Lukaku's 10 league matches 0 goal record in Chelsea. It's abysmal.

Sturridge is a no9 and he scored for Chelsea coming in from the flank.

I'll stop my nonsense yarns TO YOU here. Thank you.

Nihilist:
You're asking why Lukaku must play number 9 before he scores

Why don't we even put a number 1 shirt on him and play him in goal?

Lol. ..

It was Ibime making excuse for him that he never played the no9 position for Chelsea that's why he didn't score. So I ask, must he play from the centre before he score? Can't he drift in from that flank he is being played and score?

Not playing as no9 is no reason why almighty Lukaku won't register a goal for Chelsea.

diggz:
Was it not same season eto came in, he left? Didn't say he played with eto in Chelsea bro.

How many minutes did he even play in those 10matches Bros? Hv u even bothered checking?

I am very sure he was getting introduced like 5mins before the end of each game in bulk of the matches to play from the flank. ......So we should now cruxify him for not scoring,right? Bros be fair please!

Lukaku left Chelsea in August 2012. Eto'o came August 2013. So they didn't even see themselves in Chelsea for once.

Even if he was playing as a substitute for Chelsea, can't he score? Is there a rule restricting him to score from the bench for Chelsea? Heck! His first match for West Brom after he left Chelsea was from the bench, and he scored!

Why couldn't he do that for Chelsea?

Nihilist:
Are we discussing strikers or defenders?

Lol. ..

I don't really get you bro.

Ibime:
Fight for what place in Chelsea?

You think Lukaku and Sturridge are stewpid to sit behind a useless Torres just because Abramovic said so, all in the name of "fighting for his place".

If it was a true fight and fair fight, Lukaku or Sturridge would have been 1st choice striker since 2012!

I challenge any Chelsea fan to show me a single match that Lukaku started as no9 for Chelsea.

Keep typing nonsense about fighting for place.

In the same match, Costa could not even run behind a 33 year old Jagielka once, while Lukaku was packing Azpi, Mikel and Iva to the floor.

No insults please.

Must Lukaku play no.9 before he score for Chelsea? Can't he score from other positions? How many of Sturridge goals came from no.9 position?

diggz:
Please be fair to him at least he stuck around till it was clear he will need to move on.

I mean how do u expect him to remain on the bench when we had fernandud, legend drogba, and eto being placed to start ahead of him? Staying back would have been very phooolish of him!

But he still got his chances. He should have grabbed those chances with his two hands and feet.

N.B: He never played with Eto'o in Chelsea.

Ibime:
See Chelsea fans wey get mouth to diss Lukaku. Dem done forget how Lukaku almost had Abramovic in tears after this match. . . . meanwhile Costa was fighting WWE, could not even run once behind Everton defence, losing the ball almost everytime he got it and looking like a snail upfront.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wk7wrcdcag

This same Costa you guys are dissing is the same guy who scored 7 goals in his first 4 Chelsea game (a EPL record), his 20 goals help gave us the title, his goal in the League Cup final help gave us a domestic double.

Please let him fight and wrestle all he want but keep on banging goals for us.

Wait, does Lukaku need to be played as no. 9 first before he register a goal for us? How many matches did Sturridge play as number 9 for us? Did he draw a blank like Lukaku?

Lukaku doesn't need competition. He wants to be in a club where he is the main man. If not, he will fight for his place in Chelsea even if he was played as a DM!

nateevs:
If I could make a choice, none of them.

Morata is not a striker.
Lukaku will make my blood boil each time and ...
Costa is just a thug, a ban magnet and sometimes makes Suarez look like Jesus.



That said, I agree with LordFalcao, there is no title winning coach on earth that will play Lukaku ahead of Costa.
The numbers don't lie but we don't see the Bayerns, Barcelonas, Juves, Madrids trying to sign Lukaku. Dem no sabi count?

I tried to make diggz understand this point but he wouldn't agree. Meanwhile Madrid made sure they got Morata back, why? Anyway, I have said enough on that debate.

@diggz as per your question about the 3 players, personally I'd go for them in this order...

1. Costa
2. Morata
3. Lukaku.

Funny enough, I like the fighting/wrestling spirit Costa displays. If he can discipline himself to know where to draw the line, his is a warrior.

diggz:
Incase you have quickly forgotten, kindly see my first post which you responded with, morata>>>>>>lukaku...below;

diggz:
How many of you would want lukaku back....? I saw he could be on his way back for less than 50mil. .!

I will take him ahead of morata and Diego Costa at the moment though.



After which you have desperately tried to defend your morata >>>>>>> lukaku stand. The fact that the transfer market places them on the same amount ain't saying shhhhyyyyyyTe but, you grabbing at straws bruv!


I don't know if it is my duty to remind you that, whichever striker the club chooses to buy at the end of the day, the said player will be bought because the club needs him to score league goals! Not NT goals which adds Nada to the clubs objective/objectives!!!?

Anyways, my main aim of asking my earlier qxn is to seek the opinions of who will be a better fit for CFC and not to argument who is the better striker BTW morata and lukaku. Even if I am still of the opinion that lukaku is the better striker.

This is the sequence of our posts...

diggz:
How many of you would want lukaku back....? I saw he could be on his way back for less than 50mil. .!

I will take him ahead of morata and Diego Costa at the moment though.

timbros:
I don't know what you guys see in this Lukaku sef.

Morata>>>Lukaku anytime any day.

diggz:
I am no fan of lukaku but morata greater than him ain't right bro.

How is morata even greater than lukaku? Just how...?

As a matter of fact the only thing greater about morata before and at the moment, is the guys price tag..... Not a single thing! Not youth goals, not professional club goals and definitely not national team goals....

Lukaku is a god compared to morata....

This is where I start defending my Morata>>>Lukaku stand.

Can you please point out desperation here?

All through this debate, you haven't given me a SINGLE reason why Lukaku is God to Morata yet all my points are invalid. You even went as far as saying my reference to transfermarkt.com is "grabbing at straws".....Is that how you debate?

Well since you started from youth, NT, professional league goals and gradually strike off one area after another, I don't see a reason for continuing this debate.


Enough said.

Nihilist:
Morata played 34 league games for Juve last season and finished with 7 goals 9 assists.

Negro please....

Lukaku played 10 league matches for Chelsea, 0 goals

Nihilist:
And you're still asking who is better...

In one of my earlier posts, I called Lukaku a big fish in a small pond. He is the main striker because he plays for a small club. He will rust in the bench if he ever makes a move to Real or Juve.

diggz:
Before we go ahead to pollute this thread with unnecessary arguments, this discourse started as a result of your claims which is; morata >>>>>> lukaku.

Yes I agree I brought up the youth, NT and professional league goals into the discourse in which 2 outta the three will be the most suitable for judging or deciding who is actually better or greater BTW both of them.

Please, confirm who is actually better based on the number of goals scored by the two players. Thank God their age difference ain't much which makes it useless in this debate.

I do not want theories or excuses. Just check based on the number of goals professionally scored by both players either NT or league and tell us!

Let me comment on the bolded first.

Out of the 3 areas mentioned, it's clear that Morata tops in 2 of them (youth and NT) so even* if Lukaku is better in professional league goals, he still lose the comparison because it's 1-2.

*notice the italics in 'even'.

In league goals, Lukaku played 222 matches and scored 93. Morata played 100 and scored 25... Lukaku may edge Morata here.

In NT, Lukaku played 49 and scored 14 while Morata played 13 and scored 6.....Morata clearly top here.

Interestingly transfermarkt value them both at 40 million euros...So what's all these talk that Lukaku is better than all Morata's descendants and Morata is uber useless bla bla bla?

Nihilist:
93 >>> 25.

I should have said Career totals though.

I've already started

222>>>100 for appearances. How about that?

Lukaku is always the main striker while Morata always fights for shirt.

diggz:
Oga timbros kindly tell us moratas contributions to the trophies, no need speaking plenty English biko!

Who cares if Barcelona or Madrid ain't running after lukaku? So according to you all strikers must feature for Madrid or barceloba to be called great or good right?

I really do not even get what you are on about here.. ! Didn't Emmanuel and baptista play as strikers for Madrid too? Where they ever out of the ordinary?

I beg you!! Please, tell us moratas contributions to the so called trophies in their cabinet......

If one must even go by your upandan logic Mikel must be a God where makalele and ballacks of this world are right? Even fernandud aka shapekeeper must be better than big Rinaldo ain't it?

Oga you can gloat over the youth and NT team all you want , it won't stop the fact that morata is one uber useless player when compared to lukaku.

Please,don't insult us by saying because you graduated from the university of Ife with a 3rd class invariably, you are more knowledgeable than a 1st class student from babcook here! Bcuz that is just BS....!

You don't see me engage in debates often here because I know where it almost certainly ends.

I have listed points that made me say Morata is better than Lukaku. The best you should have done is list your own points to counter my argument.

I don't see any grammar in any of my write ups.

So I am now gloating over youth and NT when it was you that mentioned them in the first place as areas where Lukaku is 'god' over Morata? Was this not your exact comment below?

diggz:
I am no fan of lukaku but morata greater than him ain't right bro.

How is morata even greater than lukaku? Just how...?

As a matter of fact the only thing greater about morata before and at the moment, is the guys price tag..... Not a single thing! Not youth goals, not professional club goals and definitely not national team goals....

Lukaku is a god compared to morata....

Let's talk about individual honours, how is Lukaku 'god' over Morata in this criteria?

Nihilist:
The easiest way to compare strikers is to check their goal stats.

Morata has 25 career league goals. Lukaku has over 100.

Lukaku is younger too.

Haba Nihilist, you don pass this level nah...

Lukaku made his senior appearance in 2009 and has played more than 200 matches. His career league goals is not up to 100. It's 93.

Meanwhile, Morata debuted in 2010, playing just 100 matches so far.

Bar Chelsea, Lukaku is the main striker in all his clubs whereas Morata constantly fights for shirt. How do you expect Morata's goal ratio to superior Lukaku's?

You haven't told us about Lukaku/Costa yet...

Nihilist:
There is no stat in this world and the world to come that would suggest that Morata is better than Lukaku.

Ditto Costa

So tell us, how is Lukaku better than Morata?

Ditto Costa.

Nihilist:
I don't see how you can use youth team footy to compare Morata and Lukaku. The reason Lukaku played so few youth games is because he made his NT debut aged 16.

Lukaku is better than Morata, Mr Morata and Uncle Morata combined. Even Morata's mum would slap you for saying such blasphemous things.

I didn't start the youth thing. This is where youth football came in...

diggz:
I am no fan of lukaku but morata greater than him ain't right bro.

How is morata even greater than lukaku? Just how...?

As a matter of fact the only thing greater about morata before and at the moment, is the guys price tag..... Not a single thing! Not youth goals, not professional club goals and definitely not national team goals....

Lukaku is a god compared to morata....

Nihilist:
Lukaku is better than all male descendants of the Morata dynasty.

Morata is only lucky that he has been a member of some title winning sides.

That la liga title that timbros is referring to is a good example - Morata played only eight minutes of league football that year.
Copa del Rey 2010/2011 - Morata registered 13 minutes only.

At Juventus, it's safe to say that a 10 year old child, wearing a Juventus shirt and roaming the streets of Turin has a better chance of winning the league than AC Milan.

5 Serie Titles in a row for Juventus says more about the moribund state of affairs in Italy than it does about Morata.

Lukaku is Morata's God. No Argument.

p.s Lukaku is better than Diego Costa IMO.

Your opinion.

Stats says otherwise.

How is Lukaku better than Costa?

diggz:
You just listed team successes to justify why morata is a better player to lukaku.....lol..are you now suffering from dayokanus syndrome or what?

Do you mind listing moratas contributions towards the achievement of those things you listed?

Hope you are aware that there is an expensive way of generalising things, and that is exactly what you have just done...? I actually can't wait to see what Nihilist reaction will be like,when he reads what you have typed even though he is also guilty of generalising stuffs this days.

Bros please, can you tell me which club vardy played for last season and seasons before and how many goals he has scored in is professional career sofar?

While you are at it,kindly tell us how many goals morata scored for the so called big teams he has played for! Mind you lukaku is just about 4months moratas senior.

Lastly, hope you are even aware that you just claimed,strikers in smaller teams are better set up to perform better than those in bigger teams?

Generalising things how? Fact remains that Morata has those medals in his cabinet, Lukaku don't.

It is noteworthy how you conveniently overlooked their goal ratio for both youth and NT. Was those not the areas you claimed Lukaku was greater?

If Lukaku was that good, then let Barcelona or Real Madrid come for him and let him play 8 minutes and get a UCL medal.

lordfalcao:
the kind talk I dy see here dy scatter my head... how can someone choose lukaku over Diego costa?. Put Diego Costa in Everton and lukaku will become second choice.

You can imagine!

I didn't even want to talk on that comparison sef.

Lukaku no be dis one wey I dey watch almost week in week out? Everton would have been FA Cup final last season but this same Lukaku cost them the semi final against Manchester Utd...I was so furious that day!

Diego Costa even with all his temper is better than 10 Lukakus

double post

diggz:
I am no fan of lukaku but morata greater than him ain't right bro.

How is morata even greater than lukaku? Just how...?

As a matter of fact the only thing greater about morata before and at the moment, is the guys price tag..... Not a single thing! Not youth goals, not professional club goals and definitely not national team goals....

Lukaku is a god compared to morata....

I'm no fan of Morata either.

You should know better than asking that bolded question.

But to answer your question....Morata has a UCL medal, 1 La Liga, 2 Copa Del Rey, 2 Serie A, 2 Copa Italia, UCL tots. Lukaku has just 1 FA Cup and 1 joint UEL top scorer....Who is greater?

In international level, Lukaku has 14 goals after 49 appearances while Morata is played 13, scored 6..that's almost 0.5 goal per game.......Please who is greater?

Lukaku is just a big fish in a small pond. Take that same 'big' fish to a big pond and it will disappear.

Banging 100 goals in West Brom/Everton is not the issue, let him do so in a bigger club. Morata started in Real Madrid, went on loan to another big club (Juventus) and proved himself. Ever wondered why Zidane desperately wants him back to Madrid?

No be only British media dey over hype EPL players, we for dis forum dey follow hype them too much.

I still repeat Morata>>>Lukaku anytime any day.

*Modified*

Talking about youth football, in the national team...

Lukaku played 10 matches (from U15 to U21) and scored 2 goals.

Morata played 34 matches (U17 to U21) and scored 29 goals.....abeg who is greater?

diggz:
How many of you would want lukaku back....? I saw he could be on his way back for less than 50mil. .!

I will take him ahead of morata and Diego Costa at the moment though.

I don't know what you guys see in this Lukaku sef.

Morata>>>Lukaku anytime any day.

ihebrooke:
A bedroom being "en suite", is a term that is used to describe a bedroom to which a bathroom is directly connected to it.

Kindly Send us your survey plan to akalawu@gmail.com.

Digressing a bit, I like your footnote ("A mad man who knows that he is mad is not fully mad...."

Oh ok. I thought so (en suite). My designs should be en suite then.

I will have to send the survey plan later tonight when I get home.

Thanks.

Nice designs you have here.

Can you email me designs of 4 bedroom bungalows? And the cost of building plan. Also what do you mean by "all rooms ensuite"?

The land in question is measured 50 feet by 100 feet (1 plot).

timbros2001@gmail.com

paschal47:
i think both of them are currently in Ibiza
those guys have got no problem they keep it professional

This is the Messi in Ibiza (beard gang). Not the clean shaven Messi up there.

More so, the Ronaldo up there looks more younger this Ronaldo in Ibiza currently (see below).

Conclusion: That picture is photoshopped.

This image is reportedly spotted briefly in adidas.co.uk before taken down.

Real or fake? Me think it's fake.

But just imagine how sweet our midfield will be with Hazard on the left and Mahrez on the right!

I remember sometime around 2008 abi 2009 when Chelsea mega store started selling Robinho no. 7 shirt even before the deal is confirmed.

Bros check what the problem is in your ends.

I did all my app updates and enough downloads (400+mb files x3, countless 100+mb files/videos) this morning. I would have subscribed again but I needed to wake up early so I went to sleep.

It is working perfectly.

Ogbeche77:
Public transport are back in operation & the police ll hold a press conference in about 2 hours.. But the threat has been subdued

Na wao.

Be safe bro.

Ogbeche77:
I dey alright ooo..Thanks for checking..
These cowards have brought fear to a place I have called home

Good to know you're okay.

What's the situation like now?

raumdeuter:
I no dey Munich oo. So I dey okay. Thanks for checking. You should be checking on ogbeche77

Oh ok.

Cool.