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LOOK AT THIS PLACE. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED ALREADY AND HOW MANY ARE STILL TO DIE.

[size=15pt]THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WITHOUT ZONING. [/size]

Beaf:
Well spoken.

I would add that the 5th column you hinted at, is the cabal. Frightenly, they have ALL moved into CPC; Turai, Tanimu Yakubu, Abba Ruma, Kurfi etc etc
Buhari has been made a mere spectator in his own party through his desperation for power (when he has nothing to offer).

It is the core-Northern cabal causing problems for the country.

seriously mate, you should just die. i am from the south and i dont buy into all this "it's all the north's fault". we've had our own share of rotten leaders in the past. in fact some may say obj is the worst of the lot and from what everyone has seen gej isn't any different.

you are literally obsessed with the north. it's weird. you need to start looking closer to home for the answers to your problems instead of always trying to blame others.

Dahbutter:
Looking @ dis from a neutral point of view, a bomb blast on INEC could only have been planned to frustrate the election so as to prevent a change of power from the incumbent govt. to any new one. we all know the implications if elections r cancelled or postponed and the beneficiaries of such a scenario to understand who is behind it. I ask, does yr family member have to become a statistic 4 u to accept that PDP is evil? please remove sentiments and b rational here. . .The prophesy is being fulfiled!

your logic is sound.

muami:
My heart goes out to all those who died in the blast. Its actually strange that when the North was ruling, there was no bomb blast in the North. Now that GEJ would soon win, they are busy bombing themselves. Is it a mere coincidence that the blast is only taking place  at states in the North where PDP is likely to win? How come we dont hear of bomd blast in places like kano, Kebbi, Zamfar and other CPC's strongholds? If Buhari likes let him bomb the whol North, he would still lose.

if only you lived in this country you would realise how wrong you are

efisher:
Timbuk two, Do you think the tension would have been less if it were IBB vs Buhari? or Atiku vs Buhari?
I think not.

we've already seen atiku vs buhari before. and it wasn't as bad as this.

efisher:
My brother, you started off well but you went along the same path again. Remember that tomorrow is not the presidential election. Will you also blame GEJ candidacy for the fracas in Akwa Ibom between two governorship candidates? Haba!

i haven't blamed anybody for this particular act - or any others for that matter. there were killings in nigeria long before GEJ and there will be many long after him. what i am saying though is that GEJ candidacy has increased the level of hostility nigerians feel towards each other dramatically. this is FACT. all you need to do is look at this forum to see that. or look at the newspapers. or look at the markets. or the bus stops. when you are surrounded by constant tension and hostility the result is a snowball affect where "people" suddenly feel it legitimate to throw bombs.

Lives have been lost; young, innocent lives for that matter. This is not the time to be pointing fingers.

What I will say, however, is that GEJ candidacy has heated up the polity exponentially. He can't hide from that. Whilst he has the right to run for the Presidency, I can guarantee you that there wouldn't be this level of danger in the country if he had decided to run on a different platform. Everybody knows Zoning exists in the PDP. Even OBJ himself said so recently.

Rossikk:
Timbuktwo said:

Anyone can tell you they have installed capacity of 100 billion megawatts.

What is important is what the people see on the ground, and HALF OF INDIA'S POPULATION ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE NATIONAL GRID.

THOSE WHO ARE, RELY ON GENERATORS AND INVERTERS.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU

THAT'S THE REALITY ON THE GROUND.

FOR THEM, YOUR STATISTICS ARE INSULTING AND MEANINGLESS.

you sound as if you've never left your village let alone the country so how the hell would you know what the situation is "on the ground."

anyways, dude, i'm gonna leave you now. you'd be wise to leave this thread too because even the hardcore GEJ team have steered clear from this as they know they can't defend your lunacy.

joker.

Rossikk:
timbuktwo said:

Yawwwwwn. see the same  fool that once compared Nigeria to Ghana! Oh, so now you know population has an impact on power availability abi! Hypocrite. By the way India has a higher GDP than Nigeria and a national income commensurate with their geographical and human resources, so they CAN be compared with Nigeria!

And if PDP can produce 4,000 megawatts in Nigeria, they can produce the same proportion in India. India is no less corrupt than Nigeria unless you live in cloud cuckooland.

what on earth are you talking about. you seem to be a very confused individual. are you going through woman troubles at the moment because it seems as if you can't even focus on whom you are debating with talk less of what it is we are debating.

as for PDP producing 4,000 megawatts, I laugh. i think you'll find that they met 4,000 megawatts when they came into power some 12 years earlier and low and behold here we still are on 4,000 megawatts only now we're some $12-16 billion out of pocket.

and if you really want to make country comparisons then there is only really one figure you need to use:

nigeria total installed capacity: 4,000 megawatts (est.)
india total installed capacity: 171,926.40 megawatts

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU

yep. good thread.

PDP OUT!

so basically nobody can rig. unless you are PDP, in which case it's fine.

Despite the stance of the Chief of Army Staff, Lt.Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika that the military will not be used to intimidate or harass politicians as well as electorates during the elections, the reverse has been the case in his own community, Ovim in Isuikwuato L.G.A. of Abia state as his younger brother, Okey Ihejirika is alleged to have been on the loose with the batch of soldiers attached to the community for security, attacking, threatening and beating up those who are said to belong to other political parties other than the PDP.

Inside sources in the area confirmed that the younger Ihejirika who runs a Guest House said to be owned by his brother is obsessed with power since the appointment of the COAS , as such he is leading the campaign for the return of the state governor, Theodore Orji and other PDP candidates in the area. The communities around are said to be under siege as the opposition is almost being stifled. The major opposition parties in the area include PPA, LP, APGA,CPC AND ACN.

Reports have it that Okey Ihejirika has been seen campaigning alongside his kith and kin who claim that President Goodluck Jonathan may terminate the appointment of the COAS if another political Party wins in the area. Prior to the failed Saturday elections, Okey was on a campaign train urging the people to cast their vote for the ruling PDP in other to protect his brother’s appointment. He has repeatedly ordered soldiers to beat up anybody who does to the contrary. This was also evidenced on Saturday during the NASS elections where soldiers stationed in his ANCCO Guest House, Ovim were said to have beaten up the agent of the Labour Party who had insisted that the actual number of persons accredited should be recorded. The young man, Nnanna Kanu who also hails from the same community with the Ihejirikas was thoroughly beaten by the soldiers who were told he was working for Noel Okorougo, the Senatorial candidate of the Labour Party for Abia North who also hails from the same Local Government with the COAS. In the next LGA where the PPA seems to be upstaging the PDP, story is the same as soldiers again on the orders of Hon. Nkeiru Onyejeocha and Senator Uche Chukwumerije also beat up agents and supporters of the PPA candidate for the House of Representatives, Chris Odinaka Igwe.

The opposition Parties seem to be posing for war with those who are said to be riding on the back of the COAS. Though it is not yet certain if the relations of the Army Chief are acting on his orders, but there are confirmed reports that his residence has in the past weeks played host for PDP chieftains including the state governor who is alleged to be parting with a reasonable percentage of his security vote in order to secure the military backing. Gov. T.A. Orji is said to be backed by armored military tankers and personnel while on campaign in the state and that is said to have angered the people of the state who have vowed to push him out of office.

Meanwhile, the Ovim community is said to have witnessed an unprecedented number of strange youths referred to as thugs and are said to be kept at the ANCCO Guest House alongside the dreaded Bakassi cult group known as Abia State Vigilante Services who are under the payroll of the state governor. Some of the hired thugs are also said to have been brought in by the Transition Chairman of the Local Government Council, Timothy Onwuka who is said to be working for Gen Ike Nwachukwu, a chieftain of the PDP in the area and a native of Ovim. He also provided logistics and housing for the thugs in a desperate bid to stop the rival PPA former governor Orji Uzor Kalu who is running for the Senate in the area as well as another daughter of Ovim, Oby Ndukwe who is also flying the flag of the rival PPA for the Isuikwuato Constituency in the State House of Assembly. The PPA candidate though is a cousin of the COAS but she is said to be opposed by Gen Ihejirika and the immediate family members who see her alliance with the PPA as an affront to the PDP government of President Jonathan that appointed Ihejirika into office.

efisher:
But you dey try ooo! All these efforts just to P[/b]ull [b]H[/b]im [b]D[/b]own

[b]What did GEJ do to you?

he lied. a lot.

lunatic. how can you compare a country the size of india (1.2 billion people and 3.2 million sqm) with nigeria (150 million and .9 million sqm). if india was run by the PDP their country wouldn't have ANY power at all.

efisher:
O yeah. I have heard that line from Buhari himself before: "It was Rigged"
The funny thing is you rigged it yourself!!!

Let me give you a better excuse: Goodluck Jonathan is the President and he will naturally have more followers including non Nigerians.

Leave this e-battle alone. Let's face more serious issues.

bros these elections are not going to be decided on here. i just like winding you guys up. it brings me so much joy.

efisher:
That smiley is some 'cruel' smiley. That's why I like it. 

BTW, We can still reverse this your mistake o. . .
If you don't mind, you can take down your posts and I'll take down mine. Let's forget this ever happened. Deal? Act fast before someone else comes in here to see what you posted.

not so fast my dear watson. you sound like someone who gets excited too quickly. do you suffer from premature expulsion? calm down, take a deep breath and think a little. if you do i think you'll find your "fake" account was set up in JULY 2010 - again slap bang in the middle of the cowboys popularity. in fact, if you do your research properly you'll see that almost all of these "followers" came in those first few months   so again it's not a true reflection on your man's popularity. his REAL account is definitely a better gauge of his current standing with the online community.

so i think we'll keep this up hey

efisher are you beaf?? you even post the same smileys. how very weird

efisher:
Cat dey sleep, rat go wake am. Na wahala you dey find!

I bet you didn't see this:

http://twitter.com/jgoodlucktweets : [size=16pt]9,274[/size] followers.

Twitter and facebook are not your regular "faceless multiple ID" sites. GEJ is competing with people like Barrack Obama on facebook and you are comparing to  one local champion.

Be content with your consolation prize: EMIR OF NAIRALAND POLLS. it's all yours 

GEJ can't even compete with people in his backyard:

http://twitter.com/tundefashola

http://twitter.com/nuhuribadu

http://twitter.com/elrufai

official pages only please. none of this fake stuff. thanks

not his official site. just some random boozo. in fact, maybe it's YOUR page  

do you also wear a cowboy hat??

We all hear how GEJ is Nigeria's "online" President and yet his popularity seems to be dwindling massively - EVEN ONLINE.

While he claims to have 500,000 friends on facebook, what they won't tell you is that most of those friends joined his page immediately after he was made Acting President, when his popularity was stratospheric throughout the country.

Fast forward 12 months and it's a different story. Most of the his comments on his page are now openly challenged and more often than not he is abused.

What is more, his NEW twitter account only attracts a pitiful 208 followers; whereas Buhari has 1,249 followers.

http://twitter.com/PresGoodluck

http://twitter.com/buhariforchange

Oh poor preso needs your help. Please follow him on twitter. He needs your help peeps.

EzeUche:
You BB people need to wake up before it is too late. I am fearing how you all will react when BB loses big throughout Nigeria except for the core North. But looking at where Buhari is getting his main support, we know it is from the uneducated masses in the North, one has shutter why anyone but these illiterate would support the man.

the polls are coming soon. do you promise not to burn your oil wells when you lose? or are you gonna do a sadam?

EzeUche:
This poll seems very believable.

lucky for us no one cares what YOU think

you keep on screaming IPSOS IPSOS IPSOS IPSOS but you dont even no how they operate, do you? if you did then you'll realise the importance of having a media partner - in this case THISDAY - in order for them to carry out their work. THISDAY are providing the bulk of the staff for conducting the polls. and we all know the THISDAY "story".

damn!! explaining things to you is like explaining things to a child.

recoome:
@timbuk two: u'll be in for a rude shock. U and your 'mumu conference of the north' will all have heart attacks/nervous breakdown.

i'm not even from the north.

but riddle me this batman, where exactly is GEJ getting his votes from?

cjfavour:
BEAF IS A PDP MAN AND WILL ALWAYS PROJECT PDP AS A WINNER.
HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED THAT THISDAY WHICH I HAVE NEVER CONSIDERED AS A NEWSPAPER of note AND WHICH I BELIEVE IS OWNED BY A PDP APOLOGIST MIGHT HAVE BRIBED THE SO CALLED IPSO? AFTER ALL NIGERIA EDITORS  AND JOURNALISTS HAVE BEEN BRIBED WITH GALAXY MODEL CELL PHONE?

dude, you are right to a certain extent but that's not how the IPSOS/THISDAY partnership works. in this particular instance THISDAY has provided the field interviewers/journalists for the "poll". IPSOS literally only provided their name to be plastered over it so that beaf and co can spam you with it on here. You can call them and ask them how many full time IPSOS employees (non-nigerians) they have working in Nigeria at the moment if you like.

in fact, no, you cant. they HAD the office address up on their website not so long ago and now - SURPRISE SURPRISE - it's down. 

http://www.ipsos.com/content/ipsos-nigeria

Beaf:
So John Campbell is now the measure of the effectiveness of professional, PhD equipped statisticians? Dude, your argument is very worrying.
I have every in Ipsos above any hearsay, thank you!

i see. so a former US ambassador and spook is somehow inferior to a newspaper in the pocket of this current administration. you are a very interesting dude. i understand your determination to see a fellow NDan win but in doing so you are coming across as a bit dim.

Beaf:
Buhari is not more popular than he was in 2003.
The crowds he has pulled in the North always have a very high percentage of underage folk and cannot be taken as a measure of popularity. Thats what the Ipsos poll is picking up.
If anything, Buhari is even less popular in the South and Middle Belt than he was in 2003.

you really have no idea what's going on in this country.

efisher:
^ The consolation prize (EMIR OF NAIRALAND POLLS) has been reserved for Buhari as a way to reward their efforts. Let him have that while GEJ attends to presidential matters in aso rock beyond 2011. 

*sigh*

if only the south south had more people then maybe your wish would come true. unfortunately you don't.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=641562.msg8076319#msg8076319 date=1302214320]@timbuk two: This entire PDP campaign feels very Obasanjoish, doesn't it? But as you say, people have grown wise to his tricks.[/quote]they are literally one and the same. gej's meteoric rise is not down to any form of "goodluck" at all; since Alams' days he has been groomed by obj. you only need to look at the faces around aso to see who's really calling the shots.

[quote author=onye_ngbu* link=topic=641562.msg8076261#msg8076261 date=1302213737]Nairaland is mainly populated by uncouth underaged oversea nigerians that doesnt know what is on the ground and will not vote anyway.[/quote]as opposed to figures that were cooked up in the mind of an opportunistic "journalist"

@ beaf, Pharoh, dannyboy10

you choose to believe a poll conducted by a rouge newspaper (THISDAY used their journalists as interviewers for the this so called poll) and yet you wont believe an online poll open to all Nigerians?? talk about being selective.

but you don't have to believe me; hear what john campbell has to say about IPSOS/THISDAY:

According to a recent opinion pollin Nigeria, 38.1 percent of  respondents “strongly agree” and 34.9 percent “somewhat agree,” “that Goodluck Jonathan is doing a good job as president.” The poll even shows Jonathan with a one hundred percent positive approval rate in Akwa Ibom state, and an average positive performance rating of about ninety percent in the southern states. His lowest score was in Kano with 22.5 percent, but he had an overall approval rate in the North of sixty percent.

The poll, conducted by Ipsos, an international polling firm, was published in This Day, a Nigerian newspaper sympathetic to the Jonathan administration.

I am skeptical that this poll accurately measures Jonathan’s support. Indeed, an approval rating of one hundred percent anywhere stretches credulity. While opinion polls are not unknown in Nigeria, they are not common, either.

Shortly before the 2007 elections, a government cabinet minister came to see me with polling results that ostensibly showed overwhelming support for the governing People’s Democratic Party. In hindsight, the Obasanjo government’s sharing of poll results with the diplomatic community looks like it was part of an orchestrated campaign to try and give credibility to the electoral outcomes despite the massive PDP rigging of the elections. Friends of Nigeria must hope that polling data is not now being used in a similar way before the April 2011 elections.

http://blogs.cfr.org/campbell/2011/03/09/nigeria-election-polling/


you have been warned. your polls wont save you this time. the world is watching.

Mariory:
No poll is to be believed. Some Nigerian papers including the one you mentioned have been known to spin for money. Nairaland polls do not account for people with multiple accounts and for people who are not even eligible to vote (underage, not in country, foreigner etc)

Hope this clears things up a bit.

you seem like one of the more thoughtful posters. you should do it more often.

Ipsos/ThisDay interviewed 236 people in Lagos state and from their results concluded that 80% of Lagosians will vote for GEJ in the elections.

Nairaland has polled 312 people with 55.1% people voting for Buhari and only 26% people voting GEJ.

Given the state on nigeria's newspapers - as well as the dubious method of conducting the interviews in the ThisDay poll - which poll do you think is the more accurate reflection of Lagosians voting mood?

i promise you: this is a more accurate poll than the ThisDay nonsense.