Asgard13: Asiwaju will return the inec certificate he bought ..
Is not his.. no matter the threat his dogs keep dishing
Illegality must never allow to stand
Na time
It's in our hands especially the youths.
This was done in 1979 and over 40years latter it is still being done with impunity... If not stopped today, it will happen in 80 years time when all of us are long dead and forgotten and our children will continue to suffer.
Eniitankorede: That is a lie. Forfeiture is always after conviction. The drug convict goes to jail and then forfeits the property and money, this is called proceeds of crime. Many of you are not enlightened.
No point arguing with you.
Believe whatever you want if it will make you sleep well at night.
Eniitankorede: I have already replied the ignorant OP. Nobody can settle out of court or plea bargain in a drug case. He must go to prison. Tinubu was not convicted nor fined. This is a wild goose chase.
You keep arguing.
Forfeiture is a way America deals with drug cases.
It is an admittance of guilt without the stress of going to court.
Eniitankorede: Yes because no lawyer dares go to court for something already decided in a US system. And after seeing the letter from US embassy that represents the government and agencies of government. Any lawyer going to court is wasting his time and money.
He paid a fine after he was indicted as a bagman(keeper of drug proceed) in the heroine business.
Now go back and read D as posted by the OP.
There is every likelihood that he will be disqualified having paid a fine by virtue of forfeiture in a drug(criminal case)
Eniitankorede: You are just plane ignorant. So many courts have tried him on this case, from Gani Fawehinmi to EFCC etc have taken him to court. He won in all cases. The fact of the matter is hidden from obi followers. Lawyers must eat anyway.
You are mixing things up.
He has never been tried in Nigeria court concerning his drug dealings but it was about the forgery of certificates
idealogical: Stop lying, he was never convicted and the case was not a trial. No charges of any wrong doing, no arrest, no indictment and no conviction. Tinubu was not even in Court . Can you show us any proof that he was indicted, no, you are just lying.
First read and understand what the issue was about instead of lying to yourself.
English is your problem. Tinubu forfeited $460,000
or fine for any offence involving dishonesty or fraud (by whatever name called) or for any other offence, imposed on him by any court or tribunal or substituted by a competent authority for any other sentence imposed on him by such a court or tribuna
DoTheNeedful: I copied the full subsection below, and I can confidently say that BAT has no case to answer. Kindly check the bolded phrase. The sub-section would disqualify a candidate if only he is under a sentence. Let's now assume that BAT was indeed convicted and sentenced in 1993, he is no longer under the sentence. He would have served his punishment. Hence, he can't be disqualified.
(d) he is under a sentence of death imposed by any competent court of law or tribunal in Nigeria or a sentence of imprisonment or fine for any offence involving dishonesty or fraud (by whatever name called) or for any other offence, imposed on him by any court or tribunal or substituted by a competent authority for any other sentence imposed on him by such a court or tribunal; or
You just want to be obstinate...
READ D AGAIN.
It is a stand alone
or fine for any offence involving dishonesty or fraud (by whatever name called) or for any other offence, imposed on him by any court or tribunal or substituted by a competent authority for any other sentence imposed on him by such a court or tribuna
LandMann: This is an excerpt from Nigeria's constitution:
137. (1) A person shall not be qualified for election to the office of President if -
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country; or
(b) he has been elected to such office at any two previous elections; or
(c) under the law in any part of Nigeria, he is adjudged to be a lunatic or otherwise declared to be of unsound mind;
or
(d) he is under a sentence of death imposed by any competent court of law or tribunal in Nigeria or a sentence of imprisonment or fine for any offence involving dishonesty or fraud (by whatever name called) or for any other offence, imposed on him by any court or tribunal or substituted by a competent authority for any other sentence imposed on him by such a court or tribunal; or
(e) within a period of less than ten years before the date of the election to the office of President he has been convicted and sentenced for an offence involving dishonesty or he has been found guilty of the contravention of the Code of Conduct;
Based on bolded above I believe supreme court or tribunal will discard one of Peter Obi's and Labour Party's prayers relating to this issue of Tinubu being indicted or convicted in the past because it happened over 20 years ago whereas the constitution sets a 10 years limit
colonelwealth: God bless you richly my brother. You have analysied this matter truthfully. The beautiful thing here is, you don't even have to be a lawyer before you can understand and interpret that part of our electoral law of the constitution of Nigeria.
The FCT is not a state period!
Most times this mischievous people will cite a section of the constitution that regards it as a state but forgets that the context is different and context of a matter(case perculiarities) at hand is important in law.
Also, they cite a certain judgement delivered by the supreme court of Nigeria, forgetting that, that was based on legal technicalities in another similar electoral matter but the context is not totally same as the one at hand.
APC are simply only banking on the technicalities of law, arm twisting of the judiciary, bribery & manipulations and other mischievous antics to try to subvert the law of Nigeria buy they have failed even before they began.
The FCT is not a state reasons been that: *It does not have a governor but a minister. *It does not have its own state house of assembly rather has only 1 senator to represent in the national assembly...(it only has 6LGAs) *It does not have commissioners but directors. *It is refered as federal capital territory...in reference and same as the Australian capital territory (ACT), which makes it a special territory of the federal government and it's base of power. *It is also referred to in the nomenclature of Nigerian states as "36 states and CAPITAL". *The president of the country exclusively controls it through the minister of FCT who is his appointee unlike other states where the president does not have such powers. *It has a special status as can be seen in the privileges given to it in constitution. *It is ran by the minister through the FCDA (Federal capital development authority) a pesudo department/agency that controls&governs everything concerning the FCT.
Finally the word "AND" in that critical.....(25% of total votes cast in 2/3 majority of the states and the FCT)...is a conditional statement.
E.g...when universities say get atleast 6 credits scores in all subjects including English and maths, what does it mean...? It means you must have 6 credits scores with English and maths inclusive....without which, even if you have 6 credits in other subjects and not in Maths and English or 6 credits scores in other subjects and get only one of Maths or English, then you go nowhere until you get that two(English &Maths). However, if you get more than 6 credits or say 8 credits scores and English &maths are inclusive in them, then you get admitted....simple.
So with these facts stated above, it is therefore a must to have 25% of the total votes cast in FCT as stated by the electoral laws of Nigeria before you can be declared the President.
As it is now, all eyes are on the Judiciary and this is the reason why the judiciary (Supreme court especially) must always try to interpret the constitution well and give clear and just judgements at all times in other to avoid conundrums like this, constitutional disasters&national analchy.
Leave Urchins, let them and their masters keep decieving themselves...they are simply irredeemable.
So therefore......Fire on Peter Obi&LPNg, you shall and must prevail victoriously in court.
Please address my question on page 2 about abuja being considered as a state.
Brendaniel: I have tried as much as possible to avoid debating on this issue, but sometimes one needs to look at some issues from the simplest forms to solve some problems, so firstly we will need to define the meaning of a state.
According to Oxford dictionary a state is a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
Now let's talk about Nigeria, Nigeria has 36 states and the FCT, Note that when they teach you in school or write the states and capitals in Nigeria, FCT is the only one without a capital, they just write FCT, the reason is because it is not a state but a capital, it is the capital of Nigeria.
Let's go back to the definition of a state, Nigeria itself is a state and its capital is Abuja(FCT), it is like Lagos and Ikeja, Lagos is a state and Ikeja is its capital.
Now let's go back to the constitution that requires INEC to declare a candidate winner of the presidential election and it states:
The Constitution in stipulating the requirements for election as Nigerian president states in Section 134(2) that a candidate must (a) have the highest number of votes cast at the election; and (b) have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja.
So here you have it, have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja.
The reason those who wrote the constitution had to still write FCT, Abuja is because they knew it was not a state and so did not count Abuja as a state but a capital, if not they would have stopped the statement at "have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation".
But they had to stress FCT,Abuja in it to make sure that whoever will interpret the law will know that Abuja was not considered a state when they were referring to "states".
So in essence Abuja is not a state and has never been considered a state constitutionally, it is the capital of Nigeria, it is like what Ikeja is to Lagos, that is why there is no document that uses the statement like Abuja state or state or Abuja like you have Osun state or state of Osun, all you see is Federal capital Territory(Abuja).
So INEC did not follow the constitution
But what about the part in the constitution that says Abuja should be considered as if it is one of the states?
Tflex01: Pro Tinubu guys should start planning for these guys as soon as possible... Igbos don't mind if North rule them forever, Yoruba is their biggest headache. They had no choice in 1999 because Yoruba contested against another Yoruba but they still chose the one unpopular among the Yorubas.
This was how Igbos protested against Abiola's mandate in 1993 that justified Babangida's interim government instead of handing over to Abiola... The depth of Igbo's hate for the Yorubas is just unimaginable.
You are just being myopic... Nobody is against Tinubu but only intelligent people will understand.
I am a thoroughbred educated omoluabi Yoruba man and of sound mind.
If INEC was transparent with the Electoral process there won't be need for this.
Parties rig but this is beyond rigging. How can INEC collect over 300Billion naira just to introduce tech to give us credible elections and they even promised several times to deploy technology just for them to make a total uturn and they did with so much impunity both for the presidential and governorship elections.
Only a clueless backward person will be against any form of protest.
gidgiddy: Ekweremadu messed up big time. I can understand a fathers desire to save his sick dying daughter, any of us would want to save our child
But as the Nigerian he is, he thought money can buy anything. What he should have done is throw out a worldwide appeal for a willing donor to come forward to help him save his daughter
But going to get one petty trader to do the same with a promise of £7000 was pushing it
I dont have much sympathy for the petty trader either. He knew what he was taken to the UK to do, nobody takes a petty trader to the UK with a promise of £7000 for no reason
When he was judged not to be a suitable donor, and no £7000 pounds was coming, he ran to the Police
Barrywilly: Absolute rubbish. Most of the points raised are pre-election matters especially the issue of his USA case and the qualifications of Shettima. On the issue of result, the presumption in law is that the result that INEC released is the authentic result. The onus is on Obi to prove otherwise by calling all the polling agents in the affected units to come and prove otherwise. The only point worth deciding is the issue of 25% in Abuja and it means a state. Obi is only trying to keep the Obidients going since most of them cannot reason with their brains. His petition is a failure like his election.
Pre-election matters you say? Please cut yourself some slack
magzey: So if I Win 100% in FCT and I come 10th in election iam good to be Nigerian president? This one na Mumu prayers, so far you win Election with over 28 state you got 25% Abuja clause is as good as useless
If you have nothing intelligent to say why not just read comments.
bonbay: Why are you arguing over simple issue. there is no case concerning 25% of FCT. President Buhari did not win in Abuja in 2019. Abuja is just like every others state. just because they don't want to call it a state is the confusion confusing the losers.
Stop saying what you don't know.
Buhari won 25% in 2019.
Atiku won in Abuja having 259,995 and Buhari had 152,224 votes.
That is more than twothird.
There was never a time a declared winner failed to score 25% until now
The former President of the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA), Olisa Agbakoba, actually saw this political conundrum of 25% requirement coming and wrote to INEC seeking clarification and also seeking their understanding of Section 134 of the Constitution which states that the winner of a presidential election must get 25% of the casted votes in two-thirds of the States and the FCT. He wrote the letter in January, 2023.
The video above even shows Agbakoba asking the INEC spokesman, Festus Okoye, this same question and Festus dodged giving a response. He simply said the INEC Chairman will be the only one who can answer this question and the Chairman will only answer this question after the election is conducted. The video was before the election.
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